HeatSeeker:


Are these images meant to leave me in awe?!

Sorry no textbook definition for you.

It's meant to show you are a follow follow saying words you lack knowledge on.
Anything above your limited thinking is "divine".

Maynman:
If You are not empty like your God, send me a link of these groups believing in "hell" by their followers.


You have zero knowledge on the stuffs you believe, you HAVE NEVER DONE ANY RESEARCH ON YOUR RELIGION AND GODS, stop disgracing yourself blatantly.
You are EMPTY.

It seems not all Christians are suffering from Mental psychosis like you.

So far, four things have been established on this thread.

1. You are a coward. Your criticisms are directed after a group you know will turn the other cheek and respond with love instead of hate and violence.

2. You are a hypocrite. You ignore similar teachings from other religious groups during your write ups and focus only on the Christian perspective. If you truly do not believe in God, you will be critical of all religions and not focus unnecessarily on Christianity alone.

3. You have poor understanding of the information you have access to and depend on semantics and definitions to bolster your lack of knowledge.

4. You need healing, there is anger and darkness in you and your numerous threads criticising Christianity is just a cry for help! Admit you need help, ask for it and you will be saved.

Overall, you are a poor excuse for an atheist.

If You are not empty and a shameless lying coward like your God, send me a link of these groups believing in "hell" by their followers.

HeatSeeker:


So far, four things have been established on this thread.

1. You are a coward. Your criticisms are directed after a group you know will turn the other cheek and respond with love instead of hate and violence.

2. You are a hypocrite. You ignore similar teachings from other religious groups during your write ups and focus only on the Christian perspective. If you truly do not believe in God, you will be critical of all religions and not focus unnecessarily on Christianity alone.

3. You have poor understanding of the information you have access to and depend on semantics and definitions to bolster your lack of knowledge.

4. You need healing, there is anger and darkness in you and your numerous threads criticising Christianity is just a cry for help! Admit you need help, ask for it and you will be saved.

Overall, you are a poor excuse for an atheist.

See this conquered theist oo
You have zero knowledge on the stuffs you believe, you HAVE NEVER DONE ANY RESEARCH ON YOUR RELIGION AND GODS, stop disgracing yourself blatantly.
You are EMPTY.

It seems not all Christians are suffering from Mental psychosis like you.
http://ww1.antiochian.org/node/18270

Maynman:
If You are not empty like your God, send me a link of these groups believing in "hell" by their followers.


See this conquered theist oo
You have zero knowledge on the stuffs you believe, you HAVE NEVER DONE ANY RESEARCH ON YOUR RELIGION AND GODS, stop disgracing yourself blatantly.
You are EMPTY.

It seems not all Christians are suffering from Mental psychosis like you.
http://ww1.antiochian.org/node/18270

Oshe! Mr researcher. Can you show the research you have done into other religious groups apart from Christianity? Have you analysed their ancient texts to determine the meaning of the words in them and the real context in which they were used? Have you been able to disprove their beliefs just like you have done to Christianity?

Blatantly displaying cowardice, hypocrisy and ignorance makes you less of a man. Such a shame.

If You are not empty like your God, send me a link of these groups believing in "hell" by their followers.

HeatSeeker:


Oshe! Mr researcher. Can you show the research you have done into other religious groups apart from Christianity? Have you analysed their ancient texts to determine the meaning of the words in them and the real context in which they were used? Have you been able to disprove their beliefs just like you have done to Christianity?

Blatantly displaying cowardice, hypocrisy and ignorance makes you less of a man. Such a shame.

Empty theist, is Christianity not from Judaism?
The Jesus in the NT was a Judaist.
If you had your thinking cap on, you would have seen me explain how the concept was taken from the Jews to what you have now in Christianity.


Even the so called Christianity is Chrestianity.
Barren theist with ZERO KNOWLEDGE of his gods and religions, just doing follow follow around with "divine"

Maynman:
If You are not empty like your God, send me a link of these groups believing in "hell" by their followers.


Empty theist, is Christianity not from Judaism?
The Jesus in the NT was a Judaist.
If you had your thinking cap on, you would have seen me explain how the concept was taken from the Jews to what you have now in Christianity.


Even the so called Christianity is Chrestianity.
Barren theist with ZERO KNOWLEDGE of his gods and religions, just doing follow follow around with "divine"

Such a horrible combination! Coward, hypocrite and blatantly ignorant.

The simple and easy choice is for you to abandon this unproductive and uninspiring strain of Atheism. It cannot lead to an inquiry about faith that encourages progress.

If You are not empty and a shameless lying coward like your God, send me a link of these groups believing in "hell" by their followers.
Desperate theist lying to defend his deity, taqquiya

HeatSeeker:


Such a horrible combination! Coward, hypocrite and blatantly ignorant.

The simple and easy choice is for you to abandon this unproductive and uninspiring strain of Atheism. It cannot lead to an inquiry about faith that encourages progress.

My advice for you is to De-convert. Unlearn and learn again the delusion of hell you have been indoctrinated from birth as a theist.
It only exist in your fantasy.

Having faith means trusting the results of something, why don't you look up the concept of hell, try it ONCE in your life. Free yourself from this guilt.

Maynman:
Pope JOHN PAUL II
Wednesday 28 July 1999

The images of hell that Sacred Scripture presents to us must be correctly interpreted. They show the complete frustration and emptiness of life without God. Rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy..... This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called ‘hell’”.
https://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/audiences/1999/documents/hf_jp-ii_aud_28071999.html



Four distinct Hebrew and Greek words—Sheol, Gehinnom, Hades, and Tartarus—have been consolidated into the single English term "Hell," despite their vastly different meanings.
Clearly, at times, the English language may fall short in its ability to precisely communicate specific ideas
In English, Sheol (Hebrew) and Hades (Greek) both translate to "the grave or under the ground" and "the place or location of the dead," respectively.

Examining Sheol in particular, passages like Psalm 6:5-- For in death there is no remembrance of you; in Sheol who can give you praise?
Also, Ecclesiastes 3:20, and Ecclesiastes 9:5 Ecclesiastes 9:10 emphasizes it.

Considering the New Testament and Jesus' teachings, which were delivered in Hebrew and Aramaic, it's noteworthy that he didn't use the term "Hell." Hel/Hell comes from Germanic and Norse languages and beliefs.
Instead, he used "Gehinnom,"
https://www.nairaland.com/7671861/gehenna
A reference to a physical valley known as the Valley of Hinom in Jerusalem. Gehenna, as explained in the provided link, was associated with fiery torture and sacrifices.
In Jeremiah 7:31
And they go on building the high place of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire..."

Subsequently, the valley transformed into Jerusalem's de facto garbage disposal site, where fires perpetually consumed anything undesirable within the city, including all sorts of waste, even human remains.
Isaiah 66 speaks of this saying “And they will go out and look on the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; the worms that eat them will not die, the fire that burns them will not be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind.”

Tartarus, on the other hand, is mentioned only once in the New Testament in 2 Peter 2:4. It is primarily recognized from Hesiod's Theogony as a place of entombment for mythical beings, Titans, and, in later myths, mortals who committed grave sins.

The idea of a fiery and eternal Hell, as often conceived today, wasn't present in the teachings of Jesus. Instead, he used Gehinnom as a Metaphor to illustrate the destructive nature of hatah/Sin.


So, where did the modern belief in hell and the afterlife originate?

The leaders of the early Christian church dedicated a significant portion of their time to preaching and writing in support of the doctrine of the immortal soul. Among them, Athenagoras (AD 133–190) stands out as the first church father to extensively advocate for the doctrine of the immortal soul. His teachings were deeply influenced by Plato's philosophy, as he introduced Plato's concept of an immortal soul into Christianity.
Encyclopedia Britannica, “Athenagoras,”
Believing that pagan Greek teachings and Christianity were compatible, he skillfully wove the two together. “Athenagoras frequently combined the beliefs of the Greek poets and philosophers, particularly Plato, with the doctrines of Christianity”
https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/athenagoras

Furthermore, Tertullian, who lived during the same period as Athenagoras, openly cited Plato to advocate for the doctrine of the immortal soul.


The Book of Revelation also played a role in shaping these beliefs.
https://www.nairaland.com/7382665/how-revelation-got-into-bible

Understanding the historical development of religious concepts is essential for a comprehensive interpretation of religious texts.

Pictures of Gehinnom 👇

Wow
Who hacked this guy account?

Sometimes, he writes things that are really impressive especially in arguments with some on issues like Trinity, etc and I'm wowed cos I can't explain verses that way but he says he's an atheist and does not believe in God or the Bible and that's very conflicting as you'll see him arguing about the credibility of the Bible and God's existence... It's just to allow him do his thing... If Pope John Paul 2 was wrong about hell, your OP should not give an impression as if the Bible was wrong

Aemmyjah:


Wow
Who hacked this guy account?

Sometimes, he writes things that are really impressive especially in arguments with some on issues like Trinity, etc and I'm wowed cos I can't explain verses that way but he says he's an atheist and does not believe in God or the Bible and that's very conflicting as you'll see him arguing about the credibility of the Bible and God's existence... It's just to allow him do his thing... If Pope John Paul 2 was wrong about hell, your OP should not give an impression as if the Bible was wrong

Thank you, I am just against all beliefs, the books that makes up the Christian Bible are meant to be known not believed.

Maynman:

Thank you, I am just against beliefs, the books that makes up the Christian Bible are meant to be known not believed.

I'd only agree with you if the Bible is just a piece of human literature... It is more than that
You too believe what science tells you even when you can't prove all of it

Aemmyjah:


I'd only agree with you if the Bible is just a piece of human literature... It is more than that
You too believe what science tells you even when you can't prove all of it

The Bible is an Epic.

There is no beliefs in science, only doubt. When you believe something you stop thinking.

Maynman:

The Bible is an Epic.

There is no beliefs in science, only doubt. When you believe something you stop thinking.

You believe the earth and the universe are product of a cosmic explanation or you know?

Aemmyjah:


You believe the earth and the universe are product of a cosmic explanation or you know?

Nah, this very concept is a theistic one by catholic priest Georges Lemaître, he admitted he was influenced by the genesis Creation story, he called it "Primeval Atom".

Maynman:

Nah, this very concept is a theistic one by catholic priest Georges Lemaître, he admitted he was influenced by the genesis Creation story, he called it "Primeval Atom".

Oga
Answer my question

Do you believe the earth and the universe is a result of blind chance or you know?

Aemmyjah:


Oga
Answer my question

Do you believe the earth and the universe is a result of blind chance or you know?

Universe means Existence, you can't have existence without Non-existence.

Nature arises on its own.

Maynman:

Universe means Existence, you can't have existence without Non-existence.

Nature arises on its own.

The universe has nit always been in existence. You are becoming philosophical already

Aemmyjah:


The universe has nit always been in existence. You are becoming philosophical already

Existence has always been in Existence.
Universe simply means all that Exist.

Maynman:

Existence has always been in Existence.
Universe simply means all that Exist.

Existence brought herself into existence?
You've left science and discussing your own philosophy

Aemmyjah:


Existence brought herself into existence?
You've left science and discussing your own philosophy

Existence is it already, it can't be brought, you can't have existence without non existence.

Maynman:

Existence is it already, it can't be brought, you can't have existence without non existence.

So an irrational universe brought or produced rational beings? Belief or knowledge?

Aemmyjah:


So an irrational universe brought or produced rational beings? Belief or knowledge?

Universe means all that exists.
You think with your mind, the mind cannot do more than thinking (rational/irrational).

Maynman:

Universe means all that exists.
You think with your mind, the mind cannot do more than thinking (rational/irrational).

How do trust your own thoughts if the came from an irrational and unguided process of chance.
How does science trust its own science?
How does Maynman trust his own mind?

Aemmyjah:


How do trust your own thoughts if the came from an irrational and unguided process of chance.
How does science trust its own science?
How does Maynman trust his own mind?

You can never make mistakes, you are not your thoughts.

The mind does the thinking, just like the leg does the walking, I trust them to do their jobs.

Maynman:

You can never make mistakes, you are not your thoughts.

The mind does the thinking, just like the leg does the walking, I trust them to do their jobs.

Why do you trust them?
Is the process of thoughts and walking a product of blind chance?

To illustrate, for life to exist on earth, many things are involved. Distance from the sun, tilt, size, shape, rotation and the position of the solar system in the milky way galaxy... What kind of knowledge will make one suppress that they have a Maker... Imagine living in a house where they is no entry or exit whether to humans, or water, air or anything. That house will be very uncomfortable... Our planet is closed too, clean air, water, are not shipped in or water matter noy rocketed out due to cycles on earth such water cycles, oxygen cycles, nitrogen, phosphorus... Is this a matter of knowledge or belief?

Aemmyjah:


Why do you trust them?
Is the process of thoughts and walking a product of blind chance?

To illustrate, for life to exist on earth, many things are involved. Distance from the sun, tilt, size, shape, rotation and the position of the solar system in the milky way galaxy... What kind of knowledge will make one suppress that they have a Maker... Imagine living in a house where they is no entry or exit whether to humans, or water, air or anything. That house will be very uncomfortable... Our planet is closed too, clean air, water, are not shipped in or water matter noy rocketed out due to cycles on earth such water cycles, oxygen cycles, nitrogen, phosphorus... Is this a matter of knowledge or belief?

That's their duty. I have a body, I am not a body.

You are looking through your eyes.

Maynman:

That's their duty. I have a body, I am not a body.

You are looking through your eyes.

How did the eyes came about?

Aemmyjah:


How did the eyes came about?

Nature, of itself.

Maynman:

Nature, of itself.

Blind, process without direction or purpose brought itself into existence and blindly brought about life, earth, your eyes and body parts...

All you atheists do is suppress the truth
.. Not my type will fall for that nonsense

Aemmyjah:


Blind, process without direction or purpose brought itself into existence and blindly brought about life, earth, your eyes and body parts...

All you atheists do is suppress the truth
.. Not my type will fall for that nonsense

Existence and non Existence goes together.
The mind cannot do more than thinking.

Maynman:

Existence and nom Existence goes together.
The mind cannot do more than thinking.

I'm talking about systems
The earth
The atmosphere
Magnetic shield
Rain
Vegetation
Cycles
Brain
Cells, organs, systems, whole organisms

All these can never be a result of blind, unguided event

What is the chance that even the DNA came by chance or our humans speech and language...
It is easier to believe that a wild parrot that has never seen or heard any man flew from the jungle and sang 'Mary has a little lamb'... It's people of your mindset that will believe that one... The evidence of a Hand behind the works of nature is very clear. I can't suppress the truth. So stick to your own belief

Aemmyjah:


I'm talking about systems
The earth
The atmosphere
Magnetic shield
Rain
Vegetation
Cycles
Brain
Cells, organs, systems, whole organisms

All these can never be a result of blind, unguided event

What is the chance that even the DNA came by chance or our humans speech and language...
It is easier to believe that a wild parrot that has never seen or heard any man flew from the jungle and sang 'Mary has a little lamb'... It's people of your mindset that will believe that one... The evidence of a Hand behind the works of nature is very clear. I can't suppress the truth. So stick to your own belief

These are just names you are using to refer to Existence. "Tree" does not exist, but when I mentioned tree, didn't your mind automatically picture it?

Maynman:

These are just names you are using to refer to Existence. "Tree" does not exist, but when I mentioned tree, didn't your mind automatically picture it?

Oga
Follow which philosophy fits you abeg