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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:58am On Oct 11, 2023
BlueRayDick:


I was very young during the apartheid in South Africa and May not really know about a lot of issues that happended then between ANC and the whites ….. But did ANC at any point fire rockets , kill and kidnap children including foreigners while they were at their freedom fighting ?

https://omalley.nelsonmandela.org/index.php/site/q/03lv02424/04lv02730/05lv02918/06lv02938.htm

The ugly fact is that this is what is called asymmetrical warfare.

There is no way Hamas, anc, the Ira, hezebollah or any other such organizations can fight their enemy who are a larger, actually trained and armed, well funded conventional army and win.


So it is usually soft targets that can affect the morale of their enemy.


The only reason Ukraine is dunking on Russia is because of billions in US support. The chechens did not have this support during their own war of independence which is how we got the beslan massacre.

If Ukraine was not backed by the west you think they would not also be attacking soft civilian targets?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:58am On Oct 11, 2023
OasisX:


.....Doc. My posts are still there. Ain't a type that deletes posts and no where in my posts I celebrated killings of Isreal Civilians.

Yes... I posted flags to show my support for Palestine coz they've been going through a lot under Israel.

You are talking from both sides naa.

What did Palestine do that made celebrate them?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 8:59am On Oct 11, 2023
BlueRayDick:


I was very young during the apartheid in South Africa and May not really know about a lot of issues that happended then between ANC and the whites ….. But did ANC at any point fire rockets , kill and kidnap children including foreigners while they were at their freedom fighting ?


They did, reason US onced called ANC a terrorist organisation.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 9:00am On Oct 11, 2023
izzou:


You are talking from both sides naa.

What did Palestine do that made celebrate them?

grin

.....guess Celebration and Solidarity have same meaning?!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 9:00am On Oct 11, 2023
izzou:


You are talking from both sides naa.

What did Palestine do that made celebrate them?
They are the landlord Israel na tenant
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:06am On Oct 11, 2023
OasisX:


grin

.....guess Celebration and Solidarity have same meaning?!

Oga

Hamas attacked Israel on Saturday, killing 22 and injuring over 500

Your first post was the Palestinian flag.

Very insensitive, if you ask me. But then, who am i to judge?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 9:07am On Oct 11, 2023
OasisX:


.....Doc. My posts are still there. Ain't a type that deletes posts and no where in my posts I celebrated killings of Isreal Civilians.

Yes... I posted flags to show my support for Palestine coz they've been going through a lot under Israel.

Yes your posts are there and not once did you condemn the killing of innocent Israelis in the initial attacks. Most of the Israelis that were killed were innocent civilians going about their daily business far away from military formations. There was no condemnation from you only celebration and commenting that Hezbollah will join if Hamas can’t handle the Israelis. Now you are lamenting about dead Palestinian civilians. E no enter.

Secondly those maps you keep posting serve as an ode to Palestinian stupidity. The reason those maps changed over the years is that the Palestinians and their allies attacked the Israelis.

In 1947-48 when the Palestinians rejected the partition plan and fought about it they lost most of their land.

In 1967 when Egypt, Syria, Jordan fought Israel they lost Gaza Strip, Golan Heights, West Bank to Israel.

The main reason that map has changed in Israel’s favour from the initial partition map of 1947 is Palestinian/Arab aggression. The only time the Palestinians have gained significant territory is when it was handed over to them through peaceful negotiations. So if you want to blame anybody for the map changing you need to blame the Palestinians and their allies.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:13am On Oct 11, 2023
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Mau-Mau

In the end it is history that will decide if you are a terrorist or not.

The winners control the narrative and the history books. Isreal has won so they will control the narrative.

Today the world remembers that Hitler killed six million jews during ww2 but glosses over japans atrocities which were numerically and subjectively much worse. (rape of nanking etal)

As for any memri tv links
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Media_Research_Institute

is a nonprofit press monitoring and analysis organization co-founded by former Israeli military intelligence officer [/b]Yigal Carmon and [b]Israeli-American political scientist Meyrav Wurmser. Headquartered in Washington, D.C., MEMRI publishes and distributes free English-language translations of Arabic, Persian, Urdu, Pashto, and Turkish media reports.[5]

Memritv is packaged with a clear goal.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by akwesenana: 9:14am On Oct 11, 2023
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:15am On Oct 11, 2023
afrodoc2:



Secondly those maps you keep posting serve as an ode to Palestinian stupidity. The reason those maps changed over the years is that the Palestinians and their allies attacked the Israelis.

In 1947-48 when the Palestinians rejected the partition plan and fought about it they lost most of their land.

In 1967 when Egypt, Syria, Jordan attacked Israel they lost Gaza Strip, Golan Heights, West Bank to Israel.

The main reason that map has changed in Israel’s favour from the initial partition map of 1947 is Palestinian/Arab aggression. The only time the Palestinians have gained significant territory is when it was handed over to them through peaceful negotiations. So if you want to blame anybody for the map changing you need to blame the Palestinians and their allies.


How did the Arabs so thoroughly fk up what should have been a straightforward military operation? Especially as in the beginning, the western world had no skin in the game

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 9:15am On Oct 11, 2023
afrodoc2:


Yes your posts are there and not once did you condemn the killing of innocent Israelis in the initial attacks. Most of the Israelis that were killed were innocent civilians going about their daily business far away from military formations. There was no condemnation from you only celebration and commenting that Hezbollah will join if Hamas can’t handle the Israelis. Now you are lamenting about dead Palestinian civilians. E no enter.

Secondly those maps you keep posting serve as an ode to Palestinian stupidity. The reason those maps changed over the years is that the Palestinians and their allies attacked the Israelis.

In 1947-48 when the Palestinians rejected the partition plan and fought about it they lost most of their land.

In 1967 when Egypt, Syria, Jordan attacked Israel they lost Gaza Strip, Golan Heights, West Bank to Israel.

The main reason that map has changed in Israel’s favour from the initial partition map of 1947 is Palestinian/Arab aggression. The only time the Palestinians have gained significant territory is when it was handed over to them through peaceful negotiations. So if you want to blame anybody for the map changing you need to blame the Palestinians and their allies.

.......initial news were videos of Hamas taken Isreal forces as POWs as well as siezing their tanks. Also part of the initial news was Iron Dome successfully neutralised 90% of rockets fired by Hamas to Israel.

For the highlight parts, especially the underlined, I clearly mentioned Israeli forces not just Israeli - Doc.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 9:17am On Oct 11, 2023
OasisX:


grin

.....guess Celebration and Solidarity have same meaning?!
This is even worse lmao. If them give you gun as a fellow brother standing in solidarity, you'll join Hamas for the massacre baa... undecided

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:18am On Oct 11, 2023
GloriousGbola:


https://omalley.nelsonmandela.org/index.php/site/q/03lv02424/04lv02730/05lv02918/06lv02938.htm

The ugly fact is that this is what is called asymmetrical warfare.

There is no way Hamas, anc, the Ira, hezebollah or any other such organizations can fight their enemy who are a larger, actually trained and armed, well funded conventional army and win.


So it is usually soft targets that can affect the morale of their enemy.


The only reason Ukraine is dunking on Russia is because of billions in US support. The chechens did not have this support during their own war of independence which is how we got the beslan massacre.

If Ukraine was not backed by the west you think they would not also be attacking soft civilian targets?

monerozi5590:



They did, reason US onced called ANC a terrorist organisation.

Hmmmm. Then maybe they are indeed freedom fighters in their own way ; unfortunately their freedom fighting Will only lead to serious loss of lives of those they claimed they are fighting for .

As it stands , it appears Israel will not allow any living thing to escape Gaza will all the bombing and shelling going on.

Left to me , I don’t see Israel and Palestine ever making any lasting peace . One party will need to wipe out the other . Na since I dey small I don see “Gaza Strip “ come up on foreign news . There was even a time Yesser Arafat snap pishure with Pope John Paul gbat year giving the impression that all is about to be well and the world will rest on top this Israel-Palestine matter . All to no avail .

Personally I think Israel and Palestine are two states that naturally don’t like peace/calm .

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 9:18am On Oct 11, 2023
Ellexy:
This is even worse lmao. If them give you gun as a fellow brother standing in solidarity, you'll join Hamas for the massacre baa... undecided

LOL!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 9:21am On Oct 11, 2023
afrodoc2:


Secondly those maps you keep posting serve as an ode to Palestinian stupidity. The reason those maps changed over the years is that the Palestinians and their allies attacked the Israelis.

In 1947-48 when the Palestinians rejected the partition plan and fought about it they lost most of their land.

In 1967 when Egypt, Syria, Jordan fought Israel they lost Gaza Strip, Golan Heights, West Bank to Israel.

The main reason that map has changed in Israel’s favour from the initial partition map of 1947 is Palestinian/Arab aggression. The only time the Palestinians have gained significant territory is when it was handed over to them through peaceful negotiations. So if you want to blame anybody for the map changing you need to blame the Palestinians and their allies.
They know all this, they're just being untruthful is all.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 9:24am On Oct 11, 2023
https://www.nairaland.com/7872799/cooking-gas-price-hits-n1200
seems like tinubu likes the figures over #1000
petrol-over #1000
gas-over #1000
dollar to naira rate-over #1000
😒

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 9:25am On Oct 11, 2023
GloriousGbola:



How did the Arabs so thoroughly fk up what should have been a straightforward military operation? Especially as in the beginning, the western world had no skin in the game

In the initial war in 1947-1948 even though the Palestinians and Arabs had a larger population the Israelis had far more soldiers. I think this was where the eternal fuk up happened. Also the Israelis appeared to have tactical superiority over most of them apart from the Jordanians who had a badass commander, which is why Israel couldn’t conquer the West Bank at that time.

In the subsequent wars though Israel had developed into a military state with tactical and weapons superiority and with the backing of the western world.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:27am On Oct 11, 2023
We still dey wait for Tinubu to hit the ground running o.

PS: The exchange rate was N758/1$ at the black market when Tinubu took over on May 29th 2023 (5 months ago )

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 9:32am On Oct 11, 2023
EyeCumInPiece:
The level of hardship wasn't even up to a 10th of the situation now, before Soyinka and Co hit the streets in massive protests.
Now they are all silent because their tribesman is in power.

The major problem of this corn3 is the senseless tribalism of Yorubas.
lipsrsealed

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:35am On Oct 11, 2023
BlueRayDick:
We still dey wait for Tinubu to hit the ground running o.

PS: The exchange rate was N758/1$ at the black market when Tinubu took over on May 29th 2023 (5 months ago )

Use the I & E Window

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:40am On Oct 11, 2023
izzou:


Use the I & E Window

Window wey the air coming from it no reach 10% of the importers and exporters .

Okan awon I & E window analysts onibale ! angry
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 9:43am On Oct 11, 2023
Una go dey here rema go conquer all these white creamies sad

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:44am On Oct 11, 2023
BlueRayDick:


Window wey the air coming from it no reach 10% of the importers and exporters .

Okan awon I & E window analysts onibale ! angry

The country is very messed up at this point.

Apart from the big guys, have you noticed that fuel is dancing to 600 - 610?

Abi na my eyes dey pain me

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:52am On Oct 11, 2023
izzou:


The country is very messed up at this point.

Apart from the big guys, have you noticed that fuel is dancing to 600 - 610?

Abi na my eyes dey pain me

It’s only a matter of time before fuel price is increased again. In spite of the quasi-subsidy still going on , they may have no choice but to further increase the price claiming they can’t keep up with the increasing landing cost .

Only God knows how low income earners like cleaners , drivers , security guards , private school teachers and even bank tellers survive this period .

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 9:53am On Oct 11, 2023
Ellexy:
Simple, that's if they have the cojones they've been claiming to have.
They are cowards.

They would rather build their sites and infrastructures in the midst of civilians to use as a cheap blackmail when isrealis bombardment of their hide outs hurts civilians nearby.

But in Palestinian case, the civilians are completely complicit. They support the hammas. They allow themselves to be used as a shield to deter isreal. I don't want to believe that they don't accept hammas, and are rather forced to behave that way by those blood suckers.

The hammers will go out targeting civilians. Arabs will celebrate. But when isreal target hammas and the stubborn civilians caught in the attack are killed, they will start their cheap blackmail.

Imagine my father's house being used by criminals in SE to shoot rockets at Nigerian army. I will advice my pops to vacate the house immediately cos it will only end in one way - NG army bombing the place and killing everything breathing.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeadPresidents: 10:00am On Oct 11, 2023
seankafor:
Una go dey here rema go conquer all these white creamies sad

Nothing special about white women or mulatto industry plants like Ice Spice.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:01am On Oct 11, 2023
BlueRayDick:


It’s only a matter of time before fuel price is increased again. In spite of the quasi-subsidy still going on , they may have no choice but to further increase the price claiming they can’t keep up with the increasing landing cost .

Only God knows how low income earners like cleaners , drivers , security guards , private school teachers and even bank tellers survive this period .

Many of them now have to cut corners to survive.

Drivers will sell company fuel, and even use their vehicles for unauthorised movements. I saw one company Hilux picking passengers at the bus stops the other day

What is even more annoying is that there seem not to be any light for now.

This suffer don turn to "Anywhere belle face"

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:12am On Oct 11, 2023
I thought i was the only one noticing it.

I went to ICM one night, and it was an eyesore.


https://www.nairaland.com/7872052/high-invasion-lagos-malls-commercial
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 10:18am On Oct 11, 2023
seankafor:
Una go dey here rema go conquer all these white creamies sad
ice spice ain't white
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 10:22am On Oct 11, 2023
afrodoc2:


Firstly, you should have seen that most of it happened before the Holocaust and even before Hitler came to power.

Britain in its desperation to defeat the Ottoman Empire during the First World War (not the Second) started making VAGUE and fantastic promises to everybody, and the extremist factions of both groups ran with extremist interpretations of those promises.
You are absolutely correct 💯

Thanks.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by patrickmuf(m): 10:28am On Oct 11, 2023
But what Israel is doing is no different from what Nigeria's army does in the SE. UGM attacks and goes into hiding amongst the locals and the army in retaliation ransacks a whole community.

The people condemning the NA are supporting Israel. UGM should go after the army and when the army comes, they should face them headlong and not hide under innocent civilians. Guerrilla warfare is very difficult, the only way to inflict damage on the other side is to go in hard on them even if they use civilians as shields without which you will hardly score a point against them because they come in when your guards are down, inflict maximum damage and go back hiding in civilian populated areas...

Innocent civilians will suffer and sadly so...

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 10:38am On Oct 11, 2023
patrickmuf:
But what Israel is doing is no different from what Nigeria's army does in the SE. UGM attacks and goes into hiding amongst the locals and the army in retaliation ransacks a whole community.

The people condemning the NA are supporting Israel. UGM should go after the army and when the army comes, they should face them headlong and not hide under innocent civilians. Guerrilla warfare is very difficult, the only way to inflict damage on the other side is to go in hard on them even if they use civilians as shields without which you will hardly score a point against them because they come in when your guards are down, inflict maximum damage and go back hiding in civilian populated areas...

Innocent civilians will suffer and sadly so...

This table you are shaking is a wooden table o. cheesy

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