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WriiterNig:
⚡Zionist Regime: “We bombed 70 targets in the Al-Tuffah neighborhood in the Gaza Strip”

Wow sad.

tonididdy:
I have the gut feeling turkey is consider the black sheep of the NATO family.

I forsee turkey being expelled from NATO or it will voluntarily expell herself.

Turkey needs NATO too

dvkot:
Turkey needs NATO too

You think so?

Other than USA, it's the strongest military and biggest contributor of resources to that alliance. It is not gaining more than it's giving. Remember USA under Trump considered pulling out of NATO because they contribute a lot and gained little or nothing.

Turkey could pull out and probably align with Russia and still hold it's own against any nation/group of nations.

lanre316:


In other words, USA has enriched their enemy and give them more resources to undertake projects/operations against the interests of USA.

Weldone, USA, for always taking actions without considerations for the long-term effects.

They don't give a damn abovt the long term effects of their policies so long as it achieve the objective they want immediately, they just regard the repercussions as a "blowback" or "unintended consequence". There's this interview i read where Zbigniew Brzenzinski, the NSA to Jimmy Carter at that time admitted that they began aiding the Mujahideen months prior to the Soviets "invasion" of Afghan in '79 in order to "bait & provoke" the Soviets to invade Afg, and in his words- "give them their own Vietnam war". Then he was asked if he regretted the idea of arming jihadist who eventually metamorphosed into Al qaeda and Taliban we know today, he said NO! Some stirred up muslims or the end of the Soviet empire, and the cold war?

WritterNig:
⚡The 🇬🇧 UK plans to send the R08 Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier to the Eastern Mediterranean. It is expected that the exercises off the coast of 🇳🇴 Norway with his participation will be completed in the near future.

If this continues, it could be said that a NATO task force is being assembled against Palestine and Lebanon, similar to the intervention in Libya in 2011, which could expand to include 🇸🇾 Syria.

This is ridiculous. All this show of force against group of people that has no standing army.

olugabbie:



This is ridiculous. All this show of force against group of people that has no standing army.

They will not strike unless Iran and other powers around Israel interfered in the current conflict. It's just a detterance.

Hamas needs to come out and condemn the guys in their side who killed civilians and bring them to justice (people say this happened, I don't know). Also any civilian hostage must be released. If Hamas doesn't do these, its leadership can be considered terrorist and should be listed as an enemy of Palestine alongside Israel.

WritterNig:
⚡Israel faces a war on five fronts: with Hamas, Lebanon, Syria, Iran and Palestinian militants in the West Bank, - Bild, citing experts from the Middle East center Le Bec.

"Iran and its allies have made the Palestinian issue a pillar of their ideology and therefore cannot simply stand aside." Attacks from Syria or even Iraq and Yemen should not be written off. Israel (believe it or not) refrains from blaming Iran. knowing that this will further back him into a corner and lead to a multilateral war," experts say.

It is argued that Iran has already demonstrated the ability to start a war on multiple fronts.

This West should not sugar coat this. This is a war between Palestine and Israel. Hezbollah has not join yet. There has been exchange of fire though. But Hezbollahh has not joined.

Palestine, Hezbollah and other militant groups are not peer competitorss to Israel.

Stoplying:
Hamas needs to come out and condemn the guys in their side who killed civilians and bring them to justice (people say this happened, I don't know). Also any civilian hostage must be released. If Hamas doesn't do these, its leadership can be considered terrorist and should be listed as an enemy of Palestine alongside Israel.

That can never happen, even in dreams.

lanre316:


You think so?

Other than USA, it's the strongest military and biggest contributor of resources to that alliance. It is not gaining more than it's giving. Remember USA under Trump considered pulling out of NATO because they contribute a lot and gained little or nothing.

Turkey could pull out and probably align with Russia and still hold it's own against any nation/group of nations.

Turkey and Russia has a toxic relationship.. They are not really in Good terms and they align more to the west for their economy.
Had it been erdogan lost the election you would have understand turkey position

Stoplying:
Hamas needs to come out and condemn the guys in their side who killed civilians and bring them to justice (people say this happened, I don't know). Also any civilian hostage must be released. If Hamas doesn't do these, its leadership can be considered terrorist and should be listed as an enemy of Palestine alongside Israel.

The violence of colonialism can only be met with corresponding violence - Frantz Fanon

Anything Hamas does is justified it's like you people don't know what the Palestinian people have faced under Israeli occupation and oppression. Israeli forces kill innocent Palestine civilians everyday of this life and the world always move on without saying a word but when it comes to Hamas we are always quick to call them terrorists. What an unjust world.

dermmy:


The violence of colonialism can only be met with corresponding violence - Frantz Fanon

Anything Hamas does is justified it's like you people don't know what the Palestinian people have faced under Israeli occupation and oppression.

No, nothing justifies terrorism. Hamas shouldn't endorse terrorism and should denounce its members who did terrorist attacks.
Violence against the violent, not against innocent families.
I support Palestine in principle (as a person whose ancestors were victims of western colonialism), but I don't really like the racism in the Arab world and in Israel.
I support fighting against colonialism, not attacking civilians.

dermmy:


The violence of colonialism can only be met with corresponding violence - Frantz Fanon

Anything Hamas does is justified it's like you people don't know what the Palestinian people have faced under Israeli occupation and oppression. Israeli forces kills innocent civilians everyday of this life and the world always move on without saying a word but when it comes to Hamas we are always quick to call them terrorists. What an unjust world.

They are terrorist.. Killing people is what they do.

If israel had destroyed them few years ago all these won't happen.

Now gaza might be occupied for another 50yrs

Stoplying:

No, nothing justifies terrorism. Hamas shouldn't endorse terrorism and should denounce its members who did terrorist attacks.
Violence against the violent, not against innocent families.

Israeli forces kill innocent Palestine civilians everyday of this life and the world always move on without saying a word but when it comes to Hamas we are always quick to call them terrorists. What an unjust world.

Israel occupation forces are the terrorists here. Can't you people see? Did Hamas just start all this for fun. Don't you read news everyday how Israeli police and soldiers kill these people like chicken even when there is no war.

dermmy:


Israeli forces kill innocent Palestine civilians everyday of this life and the world always move on without saying a word but when it comes to Hamas we are always quick to call them terrorists. What an unjust world.

Israel occupation forces are the terrorists here. Can't you people see? Did Hamas just start all this for fun. Don't you read news everyday how Israeli police and soldiers kill these people like chicken even when there is no war.

how many people has muslim terrorist killed in Northern Nigeria alone ?

All these talk by pro hamas fans make me laugh sometimes.

Killing more than 700 civilians in a day is just next to the devil. Even israel can't kill up to that number of civillians in a day.

But i know our terrorists friends in northern Nigeria will do worst

It's like we are dealing with two fanatical groups here:
1. Supporters of colonialism
2. Supporters of Israeli genocide on Palestinians
3. Supporters of terrorist attacks by some Israeli soldiers on Palestinians
4. Supporters of terrorist attacks by some hsmas soldiers on civilians
5. I really don't like fanatics

dermmy:


Israeli forces kill innocent Palestine civilians everyday of this life and the world always move on without saying a word but when it comes to Hamas we are always quick to call them terrorists. What an unjust world.

Israel occupation forces are the terrorists here. Can't you people see? Did Hamas just start all this for fun. Don't you read news everyday how Israeli police and soldiers kill these people like chicken even when there is no war.

Allthelight:
how many people has muslim terrorist killed in Northern Nigeria alone ?

All these talk by pro hamas fans make me laugh sometimes

Then condemn terrorism done by Israeli soldiers as well !
You and the other side are like Ying and Yang, you exist for each other, and you are both terrorist sympathiser.
You are doing the same thing, but on opposite sides.

lanre316:


The bolded is most likely. NATO are comprised of mostly West and pro West nations. Turkey is basically anti-West in it's policies and actions. NATO won't kick it out because of it's strong military capability and Black Sea advantage, but sooner or later Turkey will see itself out. Their values are not aligned with NATO's values

My view point exactly. They are very odd amoungs the peers

Stoplying:

Then condemn terrorism done by Israeli soldiers as well !
You and the other side are like Ying and Yang, you exist for each other, and you are both terrorist sympathiser.
You are doing the same thing, but in opposite sides.

if hamas can kill more than 700 civillians in a single day because an israelis soldier didnot do his or her job that day it means israel is not a terrorist state.

Stoplying:

Then condemn terrorism done by Israeli soldiers as well !
You and the other side are like Ying and Yang, you exist for each other, and you are both terrorist sympathiser.
You are doing the same thing, but on opposite sides.

Perfect

Stoplying:
It's like we are dealing with two fanatical groups here:
1. Supporters of colonialism
2. Supporters of Israeli genocide on Palestinians
3. Supporters of terrorist attacks by some Israeli soldiers on Palestinians
4. Supporters of terrorist attacks by some hsmas soldiers on civilians
5. I really don't like fanatics

Ok please how should the Palestinian people deal with the situation since those who rule the world (The West) are against them. Israel knows that the Palestinians would one day get a statehood so the goal is to grab as much land as possible before Palestine get a statehood and Hamas knows this.

Check the map of Palestine in the end they might become refugees in other countries after Israel has grabbed everything. And you want them to sit down and watch just like that.

Well. You are not a Palestinian. Put yourself in their shoes I bet you would have joined Hamas by now. If you were a Black man in the US in the 60's you would join the Black Panther. Freedom doesn't come on a platter of gold you have to fight for it, you have to be brutal. Even Black slaves in America rebelled and killed their white American oppressors and their children go and read the history of slave uprising in America.

dvkot:
Turkey and Russia has a toxic relationship.. They are not really in Good terms and they align more to the west for their economy.
Had it been erdogan lost the election you would have understand turkey position

Russian's relationship with Turkey looks a bit like two girls who are best friends but hate each others guts is cause of Erdogen relationship with Putin. That aside, Turkey would have been fully aligned with the West against Russia. However, Russia does not care.

I'm perplexed to how people are really supporting Israels killing of innocent civilians. True Hama's did the same , two wrongs don't make a right but with Israel it's like people don't mind using a wrong to right a wrong, humanity is gone. As in Israel is bombing civilian buildings, hospitals and even United Nations refugee houses.

I'd Russia should do what Israel is doing currently, I'm pretty sure the internet will be on fire by now as to how terrible and bad Russia is.
This shows to prove to everyone that Russia is not at war with Ukraine. Russia could have done all this, indiscriminately bombing every houses in Ukraine but they didn't. Russia didn't even touch Ukraine's infrastructures not until NATO started supplying Ukraine with weapons and air defence systems.


What Israel is doing is bad, it's called coward fighting. USA use same coward tactics in Iraq, Yemen Libya and Afghanistan where they just bomb everything to smithereens before sending their soldiers on ground. USA did same during the ww2 bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki with nukes without any regard for civilian lives.
They are all committing war crimes. Israel has taken it too far and people are cheering them on.

Adjovi:
I'm perplexed to how people are really supporting Israels killing of innocent civilians. True Hama's did the same , two wrongs don't make a right but with Israel it's like people don't mind using a wrong to right a wrong, humanity is gone. As in Israel is bombing civilian buildings, hospitals and even United Nations refugee houses.

I'd Russia should do what Israel is doing currently, I'm pretty sure the internet will be on fire by now as to how terrible and bad Russia is.
This shows to prove to everyone that Russia is not at war with Ukraine. Russia could have done all this, indiscriminately bombing every houses in Ukraine but they didn't. Russia didn't even touch Ukraine's infrastructures not until NATO started supplying Ukraine with weapons and air defence systems.


What Israel is doing is bad, it's called coward fighting. USA use same coward tactics in Iraq, Yemen Libya and Afghanistan where they just bomb everything to smithereens before sending their soldiers on ground. USA did same during the ww2 bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki with nukes without any regard for civilian lives.
They are all committing war crimes. Israel has taken it too far and people are cheering them on.

few days ago you guys were saying hamas will divide israel into two...

Now its israel is committing war crimes i see.