oteneaaron:


YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.

A whole Elder like you, see how cowardly you speak.

You said that the holy spirit showed you that Emusan and Achorladey are the same persons.

When it is time to spread falsehood, you mouth starts running like a parrot.

Simply accept Emusan's challenge and prove to everyone on Nairaland how beyond all reasonable doubt, the holy spirit showed you that Emusan and Achorladey are one and the same person.

But you can't accept the challenge, because you are just a coward.

Stop running around in circles and prove that you are not a coward.

Janosky:


1 Corinthians 13:9 "our knowledge is not complete."

You are WAILING upandan about JWs,

Even the disciples dey do flip flops, John 16:16-18.

Janosky:

John 20:24-27
@ first,Did Thomas believe Jesus resurrected?

Did Corinthian brethren believe Jesus resurrected?

Matthew 26:31-35,69-75, Did the disciples make FALSE predictions?

Did the disciples correct,amend their ways?

Oga, if you want to WAIL about this, please continue.

Proverbs 24:16 & 1 Corinthians 15:12 & 1 Corinthians 13:9,Oga REMOVE am from your Bible, Mr Perfect.

achorladey:


The deeds of those that are not even classified is the one you use justify the reason for your mistakes.

For all the things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction, so that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we can repeat mistakes as much as possible and have hope

Below is your reference


Irenaeus, a writer of the second century C.E., said that according to some in his day, Paul was speaking at Romans 13:1 “in regard to angelical powers [or] of invisible rulers.” Irenaeus himself, though, viewed the superior authorities as “actual human authorities.” The context of Paul’s words shows that Irenaeus was correct.

Even irenaeous did not manipulate the scripture in order to use it as support to ban members going to war

You can just tell us you are after peddling your Mumu and no get sense on nairaland

Cc: Sand2022

Janosky:


You know that Mr Russell applied Divinity of Christ to Philippians 2:9.

Oga, did Philippians 2:9 teach that God made Jesus equal to God?

No nau!

It was a trend common to Trinitarian translators of the Bible to capitalise pronouns ("He,Him" etc) that refers to Jesus.
Most translations do not do so anymore.

Mr Russell is NOT a Trinitarian, he said in page 71 you cherry picked. ( screenshot evidence)

"We affirm the pre-existence of
Jesus as the mighty Word (Logos)—Spokesman—‘the beginning
of the creation of God,’ ‘the First-Born of every creature,’ the
active Agent of the Heavenly Father, Jehovah, in all the work of
creation. ‘Without Him was not anything made that was made.
(Rev. 3:14; Col. 1:15; John 1:3.) "

achorladey:



The reality before us is that, that concept called "Jehovah’s organization" na fraud set up for the worship of humans as GODS

They already know that when we talk about Jehovah's organisation today it refers to the 9 GODS of men housed in USA

MightySparrow:


They are not sincere. I have been reading their publications more than four decades. If you follow this thread, you will see that the Jehovah's Witnesses's of today are denying C.T. Russell. They said he was influenced by the church of his time. With the ' New Lights', the old lights and the bringers are discarded.

In the future, 1914 that seems to be the pillar of JWs will still be discarded by the then lazer light.
They don't have any Holy Spirit ; they are just playing kalokalo with scriptures.
They are living in delusion.

Sand2022:


That's how they always comdemn their previous beliefs, I mean the so called beliefs that holy spirit revealed.

Sand2022:


Powerful point

I might also add, Irenaeous whom they doubt is a true disciple got the correct understanding, but they came along and kept flip flopping over just that simple truth. What is sad is that they still view themselves as the only true religion with all these flipflops.

Oga, REMOVE the disciples flip flops from 1 Corinthians 15:12 & have peace.

MightySparrow:


They are right.
One of their GB , Anthony Morris, whenever he has boozed the 'spirit' his head will be misfiring wrong scriptural combinations.

Janosky:


The same Sparrow whose gods of men mishear from your deities is WAILING on this forum.
Thank God, you have 1 Corinthians 15:12 in your Bible.

MightySparrow:



I Corinthians 15:12 But if Christ is preached as raised from the dead, how can some among you say there is no resurrection of the dead?
You are son of your father, Tony Morris, you too don shack?
How is this related to the topic?

Sand2022:


How does that John 16:16-18 sound like a flipflop to you?

Is this what you guys can produce? Shmh

Janosky:


The bolded portion of 1 Corinthians 15:12 that Sparrow can't understand.

Did every believer understand and believe in Jesus resurrection?
Sparrow WAILING
.

Janosky:


Luke 9:45
But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying.

Luke 18:34
And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.

Luke 24:25,45
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken."


The same disciples Jesus opened their minds to understand the holy scriptures, still did not believe in Jesus resurrection @ 1 Corinthians 15:12.

Did the disciples understand and believe everything in the holy scriptures?
But you are here WAILING upandan about JWs.
Are you okay?

Emusan:


So do you agree that Watchtower teaches wrong doctrines?

Janosky:
Do you agree that the apostles taught wrong doctrine @ 1 Corinthians 15:12?

Emusan do you AGREE that the apostle practice wrong doctrine at Galatians 2:11-14?

Emusan:


That's how you'll know you people can manipulate anything. Well I know it's just to defend those gods in Warwick

The content of 1 Corin 15:12 is "they don't believe in THE RESURRECTION OF The Dead" not that of "resurrection of Jesus Christ." According to your @color above

Empty skull JaNosense .

Emusan LYING coconut head,@ 1 Corinthians 15:12 was Jesus Christ raised from the dead?

Emusan too EMPTY

Emusan:


They didn't!

This is Gal 2:11-14 and point out the WRONG TEACHING they RECEIVED FROM CHRIST AND THEY WERE TEACHING PEOPLE.

"11 But when Peter came to Antioch, I had to oppose him to his face, for what he did was very wrong. 12 When he first arrived, he ate with the Gentile believers, who were not circumcised. But afterward, when some friends of James came, Peter wouldn’t eat with the Gentiles anymore. He was afraid of criticism from these people who insisted on the necessity of circumcision.[b] 13 As a result, other Jewish believers followed Peter’s hypocrisy, and even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy.

14 When I saw that they were not following the truth of the gospel message, I said to Peter in front of all the others, “Since you, a Jew by birth, have discarded the Jewish laws and are living like a Gentile, why are you now trying to make these Gentiles follow the Jewish traditions?[/b]

Now answer my question!

@ Galatians 2:13-14
The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray.
14 When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel."

Emusan LIAR

Janosky:
Emusan LYING coconut head,@ 1 Corinthians 15:12 was Jesus Christ raised from the dead?

Emusan too EMPTY

Janosky:
@ Galatians 2:13-14
The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray.
14 When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel."

Emusan LIAR

Emusan:


That's why I do say you people lies so easily and reason why you always avoid quoting the scripture rather than citing it.

Here is 1 Corin 15:12 "But tell me this— since we preach that Christ rose from the dead, why are some of you saying there will be no resurrection of the dead?

It's evident that teaching of Christ resurrection isn't the main issue here but resurrection of the DEAD.

Compare to your initial point "The same disciples Jesus opened their minds to understand the holy scriptures, still did not believe in Jesus resurrection @ 1 Corinthians 15:12."

Lying liar hallgoer miscreant

Janosky:
Emusan LYING miscreant, SHAME ON YOU !!!

1 Corinthians 15:12
Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?


Acts 26:8
Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you, that God should raise the dead

Janosky:


The bolded portion of 1 Corinthians 15:12 that Sparrow can't understand.

Did every believer understand and believe in Jesus resurrection?
Sparrow WAILING
.

Sand2022:


Who said he is an elder? An elder and doesn't know their doctrine?

Sand2022:

Who said he is an elder? An elder and doesn't know their doctrine?

MaxInDHouse:

Performing up to standard among true believers!

achorladey:


He is an elder. Elder based on fulfilling the field service report quota. Elders based on the fact that knowledgeable ones don't want to take a position used by their religious leaders to progress lies and manipulations of other members. Elders based on da omi tutu siwaju alaboojuto ayika ko le tele tutu lati gba ipo alagba

Emusan:


The key point is:

They didn't TEACHES WRONG THING but just what Peter did that others just decided to copy. This is written in a plain English.

Compare to your own organisation who is taught people years of lies before another New Lie(light) come up again.

Emusan:


That's why I do say you people lies so easily and reason why you always avoid quoting the scripture rather than citing it.

Here is 1 Corin 15:12 "But tell me this— since we preach that Christ rose from the dead, why are some of you saying there will be no resurrection of the dead?

It's evident that teaching of Christ resurrection isn't the main issue here but resurrection of the DEAD.

Compare to your initial point "The same disciples Jesus opened their minds to understand the holy scriptures, still did not believe in Jesus resurrection @ 1 Corinthians 15:12."

Lying liar hallgoer miscreant

Sand2022:


For the first time, you have made a fine rebuttal. Kudos!

While Russell's belief about the son is in some way different from that of JW today, he didn't see the son to be equal to the Father intoto. He believed that all the son had was from the Father. However, there was a difference in how he viewed the son as opposed to what the witnesses believe today. Secondly, another difference is about the spirit.