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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 5:10pm On Oct 15, 2023
Amoto94:
The Child Yasir Abu Marsa has survived with his mother from an Israeli air strike in Gaza and they are receiving medical treatment in the Shefa hospital. https://x.com/EyeonPalestine/status/1713555800927416830?s=20
.ay be you should help translate the Arabic in the documents.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 5:11pm On Oct 15, 2023
Emaprince:
This is false. Hammas planted the bomb there.

You see your life?
Source: Trust Me Bro
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 5:31pm On Oct 15, 2023
All our prayers for the inhabitants of Gaza who are once again victims of these unjust bombings which spare no women or children. Karim Benzema
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 5:34pm On Oct 15, 2023
This could be your child

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by LordAdam16: 5:51pm On Oct 15, 2023
raumdeuter:


This is what I want those saying Israel is killing Palestinian to tell us. What should Israel do when Hamas hide under civilians to launch rockets at Israel?

If they say na lie. Let them show the Hamas military base where they are launching from

Israel is looking for Hamas, if you can physically separate civilians from Hamas that will be appreciated and civilian casualty will stop

Are you saying it is okay to kill 2 million civilians to get to 40,000 fighters?

Furthermore, Israel has a well-documented history of using relocations as pretext to steal lands. That's how the country was created. They forced out most of the inhabitants and stole the land. They've done the same in the West Bank where they've slowly edged out Palestinians and settled "innocent civilians" in Palestinian land.

This is all Israel's mess.

You don't sow cashew and expect to reap strawberry.

Let these people have their country. The majority of the global population have agreed to give them their own country.
But you're refusing, because you want to steal all of their lands.

There are 2 million evicted Palestinians in Jordan. You want to evict another 2 million to Egypt.
On what grounds? Who the f*ck do you think you are? And who gives a sh*t about your genocidal god?

A State of Palestine will have to operate under International law. During the Arab-Israeli Wars, the Arab Coalition did not kill Jewish civilians indiscriminately even if they could because of the firm rules of war between states. If you go ahead to carpet bomb Jewish civilians, you'd receive instant retribution in a hundred folds.

Moreover, a State of Palestine will almost certainly need US security guarantees like other small Middle Eastern states. Which means multiple opportunities to deconflict.

Not to mention internal divisions. These are Arabs. They're always at each other's throats. Palestine will have a civil war soon enough after independence and each party will seek Israeli help to outmatch their foe. That's Israel's in.

There's already precedence of this. In 2016, 40% of terrorist suspect arrests in the West Bank was conducted by Palestinian security forces. And both sides readily exchanged top secret information. The Head of the Shin Bet admitted this himself.

Many Palestinians are itching for the opportunity to Bleep up Hamas after their violent takeover, but have had to press pause because Israel is still running an open air prison and weakening Hamas plays into Israel's grand plans.

The likes of Jordan need the Israelis to maintain internal stability. The Saudis used Israeli spy tech to snoop on enemies.

There is no conceivable reason why a State of Palestine is a threat to the State of Israel. None. You have hundreds of nuclear warheads. You defeated a coalition of more than 5 countries backed by the USSR. You want me to actually believe that you're threatened by fireworks?

The Israelis and their apologists like yourself keep talking about how the Palestinians have to be as meek as the Finns and Swiss. Well, here's the thing, Finland and Switzerland are independent countries.

I have exhausted all my f*cks for Israel. At this point, I don't want to hear sh*t about atrocities while you're committing atrocities yourself. I have no idea what I'll do if some pendejo wiped out my entire family in an airstrike. Not even god will stop me from exacting revenge anyway I see fit. Even if he appears to me, I'll tell him he had his chance to stop it and didn't, so he can either support me on my quest or go back to observing and doing nothing. After 70 years of this bullsh*t, Israel has lost the moral ground to hyperventilate about ANYTHING.

The Jews resorted to terrorism and killed both British forces and civilians after the Brits adopted the White Paper of 1939. But now that others have employed same methods against them for the exact same reason, they are crying blue murder. These same hypocrites want us to justify yet another war crime because Hamas had the nerve to give them a taste of their own medicine.

Well, they should go ahead and commit the war crime. But if they think that there is ANYTHING that any Palestinian could do that will end the calls to establish a State of Palestine, then they must be high on something kosher.

Oh, and I'm not Muslim. Or Christian. Or Jewish. Or Religious for that matter. Every human on this planet has immutable fundamental rights. Palestinians are the largest stateless and refugee community on this planet. They've stated they want their own country, they've occupied those lands for more than a millennia, and by all things sacred, they shall have their country. Every other yammer is irrelevant nonsense.

-Lord

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 5:58pm On Oct 15, 2023
Why you mad bro?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:59pm On Oct 15, 2023
18 long paragraphs wey no go stop Netanyahu from returning fire to all the locations Hamas rocket from come inside Gaza .

🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 5:59pm On Oct 15, 2023
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Incognito9: 6:00pm On Oct 15, 2023
BlueRayDick:
18 long paragraphs wey no go stop Netanyahu from returning fire to all the locations Hamas rocket from come inside Gaza .

🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️

😂😂 nah only here he go cry

Gaza will become desert wether they like it or not.

An eye for an eye cool
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 6:01pm On Oct 15, 2023
BlueRayDick:
18 long paragraphs wey no go stop Netanyahu from returning fire to all the locations Hamas rocket from come inside Gaza .

🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️
Bro summarize please
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:03pm On Oct 15, 2023
Incognito9:


😂😂 nah only here he go cry


Aswear 😂

Anybody we get mind make e follow Mediterranean enter Gaza go show Hamas solidarity
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:05pm On Oct 15, 2023
iamoyindamola:

Bro summarize please

Na very long cap about Israel stealing the land , Hamas paying back Israel for something that happened 1939 when Jews killed Brits , blah blah blah…. And blah

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 6:07pm On Oct 15, 2023
BlueRayDick:


Na very long cap about Israel stealing the land , Hamas paying back Israel for something that happened 1939 when Jews killed Brits , blah blah blah…. And blah
There’s also the part about kill and 2 million civilians…. then capped it with Lord so we will think the post makes sense.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 6:09pm On Oct 15, 2023
This thread ehn cheesy

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:09pm On Oct 15, 2023
obainojazz:
There’s also the part about kill and 2 million civilians…. then capped it with Lord so we will think the post makes sense.

Maybe he wants to displace Teejay as the king of long paragraphs grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 6:17pm On Oct 15, 2023
BlueRayDick:


Maybe he wants to displace Teejay as the king of long paragraphs grin
He already has his own weird niche…. He types Lord after every post.


Make he leave paragraphs for another person
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 6:26pm On Oct 15, 2023
BlueRayDick:


That's the mistake most people make. They don't even know how ethnically diverse this country is.

A friend of mine during NYSC told me that in his LGA alone in Plateau state they have as much as 13 different languages spoken by different tribes/ethnic group. He said the funny thing is they don't even understand each other's language so they have no choice but to learn Hausa to be able to communicate to their neighbors
You are going too far sef, we went for a party in Ondo state, we stayed in a house filled with local residents, yet we couldn't understand a single word of their conversations, this led me to inquire if we were still in yoruba land to which one of the hosts confirmed that we were indeed in yoruba territory. It appears that Nigeria, being a country with diverse cultures and languages with linguistic variations it will be impossible for us to adopt a unified language. In this case WASOBIA acronym does not truly represent the language of the country.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:39pm On Oct 15, 2023
MorataFC:
You are going too far sef, we went for a party in Ondo state, we stayed in a house filled with local residents, yet we couldn't understand a single word of their conversations, this led me to inquire if we were still in yoruba land to which one of the hosts confirmed that we were indeed in yoruba territory. It appears that Nigeria, being a country with diverse cultures and languages with linguistic variations it will be impossible for us to adopt a unified language. In this case WASOBIA acronym does not truly represent the language of the country.

I really don’t know how Ondo state came to have so many ethnic groups with different languages being spoken by each group .

Na who never travel around Nigeria go think say WAZOBIA represents our diversity

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:39pm On Oct 15, 2023
obainojazz:
He already has his own weird niche…. He types Lord after every post.


Make he leave paragraphs for another person

grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by LordAdam16: 6:44pm On Oct 15, 2023
By the way, let me paste the key points of the White Paper of 1939 which the Palestinians agreed to with the British Government.

Section I. The Constitution: It stated that with over 450,000 Jews having now settled in the mandate, the Balfour Declaration about "a national home for the Jewish people" had been met, and it also called for an independent Palestine to be established within 10 years and to be governed jointly by Arabs and Jews:

His Majesty's Government believe that the framers of the Mandate in which the Balfour Declaration was embodied could not have intended that Palestine should be converted into a Jewish State against the will of the Arab population of the country. [ ... ] His Majesty's Government therefore now declare unequivocally that it is not part of their policy that Palestine should become a Jewish State. They would indeed regard it as contrary to their obligations to the Arabs under the Mandate, as well as to the assurances which have been given to the Arab people in the past, that the Arab population of Palestine should be made the subjects of a Jewish State against their will.

The objective of His Majesty's Government is the establishment within 10 years of an independent Palestine State in such treaty relations with the United Kingdom as will provide satisfactorily for the commercial and strategic requirements of both countries in the future. [..] The independent State should be one in which Arabs and Jews share government in such a way as to ensure that the essential interests of each community are safeguarded.

Section II. Immigration: Jewish immigration to Palestine under the British Mandate was to be limited to 75,000 over the next five years and then would depend on Arab consent:

His Majesty's Government do not [..] find anything in the Mandate or in subsequent Statements of Policy to support the view that the establishment of a Jewish National Home in Palestine cannot be effected unless immigration is allowed to continue indefinitely. If immigration has an adverse effect on the economic position in the country, it should clearly be restricted; and equally, if it has a seriously damaging effect on the political position in the country, that is a factor that should not be ignored. Although it is not difficult to contend that the large number of Jewish immigrants who have been admitted so far have been absorbed economically, the fear of the Arabs that this influx will continue indefinitely until the Jewish population is in a position to dominate them has produced consequences which are extremely grave for Jews and Arabs alike and for the peace and prosperity of Palestine. The lamentable disturbances of the past three years are only the latest and most sustained manifestation of this intense Arab apprehension [ ... ] it cannot be denied that fear of indefinite Jewish immigration is widespread amongst the Arab population and that this fear has made possible disturbances which have given a serious setback to economic progress, depleted the Palestine exchequer, rendered life and property insecure, and produced a bitterness between the Arab and Jewish populations which is deplorable between citizens of the same country. If in these circumstances immigration is continued up to the economic absorptive capacity of the country, regardless of all other considerations, a fatal enmity between the two peoples will be perpetuated, and the situation in Palestine may become a permanent source of friction amongst all peoples in the Near and Middle East.

Jewish immigration during the next five years will be at a rate which, if economic absorptive capacity permits, will bring the Jewish population up to approximately one third of the total population of the country. Taking into account the expected natural increase of the Arab and Jewish populations, and the number of illegal Jewish immigrants now in the country, this would allow of the admission, as from the beginning of April this year, of some 75,000 immigrants over the next four years. These immigrants would, subject to the criterion of economic absorptive capacity, be admitted as follows: For each of the next five years a quota of 10,000 Jewish immigrants will be allowed on the understanding that a shortage one year may be added to the quotas for subsequent years, within the five-year period, if economic absorptive capacity permits. In addition, as a contribution towards the solution of the Jewish refugee problem, 25,000 refugees will be admitted as soon as the High Commissioner is satisfied that adequate provision for their maintenance is ensured, special consideration being given to refugee children and dependents. The existing machinery for ascertaining economic absorptive capacity will be retained, and the High Commissioner will have the ultimate responsibility for deciding the limits of economic capacity. Before each periodic decision is taken, Jewish and Arab representatives will be consulted. After the period of five years, no further Jewish immigration will be permitted unless the Arabs of Palestine are prepared to acquiesce in it.

Section III. Land: No restriction had been imposed on the transfer of land from Arabs to Jews, but the White Paper now stated:

The Reports of several expert Commissions have indicated that, owing to the natural growth of the Arab population and the steady sale in recent years of Arab land to Jews, there is now in certain areas no room for further transfers of Arab land, whilst in some other areas such transfers of land must be restricted if Arab cultivators are to maintain their existing standard of life and a considerable landless Arab population is not soon to be created. In these circumstances, the High Commissioner will be given general powers to prohibit and regulate transfers of land.

The Palestinians welcomed them and accepted continued limited Jewish immigration. They even agreed to jointly form a government. They agreed to this with Britain within the framework of the League of Nation's Mandate.

The Palestinians secured this concession after paying with their lives during the 1936-1939 Arab Revolt. British official records put the number of Arab fatalities at 2,000. The Arabs say it was as high as almost 20,000.

The Jews have killed more than 2,000 Palestinians in just 1 week.

Surely, if you're empathetic, you'll understand why the Palestinians rejected the UN Partition Plan.

But you know what, this is 2023, we're settling for a Two-State Solution at 1967 borders and the Jews have the chutzpah to oppose it.

This is inhumane!

All Arab fears have been realized. And if you're here trying to rationalize all of this, make a mountain out of a molehill that does not hold a candle to the Nakba, and justify more war crimes, persecution, and eviction of the Palestinian people; you should take a long, hard look at the mirror because you've lost your humanity.

Everything that can be done for the Jewish people has been done for them. There's literally about to be TWO carrier strike groups sitting off their shores complemented by unlimited support from the world's leading powers. Continued deprivation of Palestine statehood and indiscriminate execution of Palestinian civilians is sickening, indefensible sadism.

-Lord

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by LordAdam16: 6:50pm On Oct 15, 2023
Incognito9:


😂😂 nah only here he go cry

Gaza will become desert wether they like it or not.

An eye for an eye cool


Not even in your wildest dreams!

-Lord

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 6:55pm On Oct 15, 2023
Two state solutions was rejected by the Palestinians. Who come dey talk about Palestine getting their own state?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 6:56pm On Oct 15, 2023
BlueRayDick:


I really don’t know how Ondo state came to have so many ethnic groups with different languages being spoken by each group .

Na who never travel around Nigeria go think say WAZOBIA represents our diversity

There are parts of Ondo State where every town has its own language. I believe it is because of the mountainous topography. It meant many of the communities lived in relative isolation from one another in ancient times, and isolation is one of the primary drivers of differentiation in language as each community will experience language drift in its own way. Therefore, even if they spoke the same language initially, their languages will differ over time.

This also explains the situation in Plateau state.

That is my theory at least.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 6:56pm On Oct 15, 2023
LordAdam16:


Not even in your wildest dreams!

-Lord
How can Palestine get their own country when they refused the two state solution?

They want isreal wiped out...which is the mindset of all the Arabs.

Is that possible to you?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:02pm On Oct 15, 2023
afrodoc2:


There are parts of Ondo Tate where every town has its own language. I believe it is because of the mountainous topography. It meant many of the communities lived in relative isolation from one another in ancient times, and isolation is one of the primary drivers of differentiation in language as each community with experience language drift in its own way. Therefore, even if they spoke the same language initially, their languages will differ over time.

This also explains the situation in Plateau state.

That is my theory at least.

Hmmm.,, u made a very good point there .

Some parts of Ondo sef (especially the riverine areas ) are closer to Niger delta people (Ijaws) more than other Yorubas . I think it impacted on their language and even cultures .
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 7:10pm On Oct 15, 2023
BlueRayDick:


Hmmm.,, u made a very good point there .

Some parts of Ondo sef (especially the riverine areas ) are closer to Niger delta people (Ijaws) more than other Yorubas . I think it impacted on their language and even cultures .

Yeah, factors like intermingling of cultures also come into play. You can have a foundation language like Yoruba but if ancient migrations bring people speaking other languages like Bini or Ijaw enough new vocabulary and language rules might be added to the foundation language to alter it significantly.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by LordAdam16: 7:10pm On Oct 15, 2023
Emaprince:
How can Palestine get their own country when they refused the two state solution?

They want isreal wiped out...which is the mindset of all the Arabs.

Is that possible to you?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/9/21/abbas-tells-un-peace-only-possible-when-palestinians-get-full-rights
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-09-20/ty-article/.premium/palestinians-pleased-with-saudi-led-forum-on-two-state-solution/0000018a-b23b-d6d1-addb-f63bd4fb0000

The Palestinians have accepted the Two State Solution in spirit. And 138 countries currently recognize the State of Palestine.
The only holdouts are Israel and its Western Allies that have sworn to only recognize Palestine after Israel does.

The Arabs have made peace with the fact that Israel is here to stay.
There are still clowns talking about eradicating Israel, but every informed person in the region know those misguided elements are just bloviating.
They've fought the Arab-Israeli wars and lost. The Two State Solution is recognized as the only viable path forward.

-Lord

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by emmaodet: 7:16pm On Oct 15, 2023
LordAdam16:


Are you saying it is okay to kill 2 million civilians to get to 40,000 fighters?

Furthermore, Israel has a well-documented history of using relocations as pretext to steal lands. That's how the country was created. They forced out most of the inhabitants and stole the land. They've done the same in the West Bank where they've slowly edged out Palestinians and settled "innocent civilians" in Palestinian land.

This is all Israel's mess.

You don't sow cashew and expect to reap strawberry.

-Lord

Don't mind many religious bigots here.
Why will you tell me your God gave you a land to acquire 2000 years ago and you are back to have it.
What kind of nonsense is that? In this 21st century?
So if your God gave you such instructions, then it is safe to say Allah and Usman dan fodio also had told his Fulani kith and kins that they own Nigeria and won't stop until they deep the Quran in the Atlantic aka conquering southern Nigeria.
Afterall, it is an instruction from their own God too.
What is good for christian is good for Muslim and what is good for isreal is good for Arabs and fulanis too.
So what is am not a christain in isreal? How will you convince me that your God is the one that owns where I am and I have to leave.
I mean, so fulanis now can come to ibadan and tell me and my people that they own it and we have to vacate to where ever we can because they own it. Allah has given it to them and if I don't go they will use force.
What kind of devilish race is that?
Are the Jews different from west African fulanis? Taking over people's land by force? They are just international fulanis with more finance, fire power and media. Simple

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:18pm On Oct 15, 2023
Israel should give to Hamas
The same treatment US gave the Taliban
The same treatment Russia gave the Chechnya rebels
The same treatment given to ISIS

These people only recognize force. They view diplomacy as weakness. You cannot be negotiating with terrorists

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:19pm On Oct 15, 2023
Emaprince:
How can Palestine get their own country when they refused the two state solution?

They want isreal wiped out...which is the mindset of all the Arabs.

Is that possible to you?

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-palestinian-dispute-hinges-statehood-land-jerusalem-refugees-2023-10-10

Leave them to be turning history over it’s head . The Jewish state of Israel was attacked by 5 Arab nations just a day after the state was created.

Like Afrodoc2 rightly pointed out the other day, every piece of land Palestine has lost is as a result of them and the rest of the Arab world waging wars against Israel and getting their ass whooped.

It is a well known fact that Hamas has sworn to Israel’s destruction .Now is Israel supposed to fold her hands and allow them fulfill their promise of destroying her ?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by popizaino(m): 7:20pm On Oct 15, 2023
Amoto94:
This could be your child

Ogbeni your sympathy is a misplaced one.

You have never sympathised for the thousands of Benue indigenes that are killed almost everytime by fulani herdsmen at your backyard in kogi but na Palestinian who don't even know your country exist or has never bat an eyelid over the myriad of problems facing kogi or Nigeria 🇳🇬 as a whole na him you wan dey show sympathy for .......continue. Dey play.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 7:27pm On Oct 15, 2023
LordAdam16:


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/9/21/abbas-tells-un-peace-only-possible-when-palestinians-get-full-rights
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-09-20/ty-article/.premium/palestinians-pleased-with-saudi-led-forum-on-two-state-solution/0000018a-b23b-d6d1-addb-f63bd4fb0000

The Palestinians have accepted the Two State Solution in spirit. And 138 countries currently recognize the State of Palestine.
The only holdouts are Israel and its Western Allies that have sworn to only recognize Palestine after Israel does.

The Arabs have made peace with the fact that Israel is here to stay.
There are still clowns talking about eradicating Israel, but every informed person in the region know those misguided elements are just bloviating.
They've fought the Arab-Israeli wars and lost. The Two State Solution is recognized as the only viable path forward.

-Lord


I just d laugh you. grin grin grin. You really don't know their mindsets. You don't. Qater and other countries are funding Hamas.

Islamic countries like Iran, all they do best in their parliament is chanting "Down Israel"

Read this raumdeuter post very well. That's what they want.

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