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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterNiiig: 11:56am On Oct 24, 2023
โšกNetanyahu:

If Hamas wins, we will all lose, and the Europeans and civilization will be in danger.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterNiiig: 11:57am On Oct 24, 2023
โšกU.S. Air ForceC-17 Globemaster III out of likely Baghdad, Iraq with a medical evacuation callsign.

The transport aircraft is likely heading to Ramstein AB, Germany, where the Landstuhl military hospital is located.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 11:57am On Oct 24, 2023
Alamkir:


NO NO NO NO. NEVER. THANK YOU

Funny dude lol.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterNiiig: 11:57am On Oct 24, 2023
โšกA journalist stumped ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ John Kirby with his question:

Don't you think President Biden should play a role in achieving peace instead of saying he can handle two wars every time? Does it make a good impression when, instead of working on peaceful things, you have to fight two wars at the same time?'

"Since the beginning of this administration, we have been committed to creating a more integrated, collaborative, peaceful, stable and prosperous Middle East."
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 12:03pm On Oct 24, 2023
WriterNiiig:
โšกIran's Defense Minister warning:

"Our enemies are well aware that any mistake on their part will be met with a strong and decisive response from the Islamic Republic of Iran."

Iran should forget this idea of destroying Israel and just focus on getting Palestinians it own state.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 12:04pm On Oct 24, 2023
Allthelight:

There is nothing you can't buy with a trillion dollars.
Overpriced ? How is it overpriced ?

I will explain what i mean if u want to learn tho.

I'm surprised that someone is even asking me how US weapons are overpriced in 2023. It is mostly the result of how US economy is structured in terms of wages and general price levels. What costs a million dollars to build in America can be built in many other countries at a far lesser price. Sure, US weapons tend to have more quality but the difference is not good enough to justify the price difference.

Consider the cost of Russian Submarines, tanks, missiles, missile defense systems, and others against those of USA. US weapons are far more expensive but the qualities remain similar. In fact, some Russian weapons are even more effective. Most countries would rather buy the S-400 than USA's THAAD not because the THAAD is more expensive but because the S-400 has better quality.

The same thing applies in other things such as services and infrastructure. Why do you think many American companies prefer to outsource their production to Asia? Everything is overpriced in USA. Even food.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by okeysoninv: 12:08pm On Oct 24, 2023
seunny4lif:

The USSR's multiple rocket launchers that changed the war in the USSR's favor were not accurate during WW2, but it sent thousands of German soldiers to hospitals due to panic attacks, it destroyed all their hideouts.

USA dropped bombs anyhow in WW2, Vietnam, and NK, Precise weapons are kept to hit a particular thing but in all-out war, drop as much as you can to make your enemy fear you and run away.
ww2 is not the same as current phase war. Inaccurate weapon is like a blind man firing a gun. Accuracy entrains precision and good decision through use of satellite, drone image, and radar. Your not a military so I don't expect you to understand.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by okeysoninv: 12:12pm On Oct 24, 2023
FoolishBoy419:


I'm surprised that someone is even asking me how US weapons are overpriced in 2023. It is mostly the result of how US economy is structured in terms of wages and general price levels. What costs a million dollars to build in America can be built in many other countries at a far lesser price. Sure, US weapons tend to have more quality but the difference is not good enough to justify the price difference.

Consider the cost of Russian Submarines, tanks, missiles, missile defense systems, and others against those of USA. US weapons are far more expensive but the qualities remain similar. In fact, some Russian weapons are even more effective. Most countries would rather buy the S-400 than USA's THAAD not because the THAAD is more expensive but because the S-400 has better quality.

The same thing applies in other things such as services and infrastructure. Why do you think many American companies prefer to outsource their production to Asia? Everything is overpriced in USA. Even food.
Russia weapons are always good in papers, same thrash s-400 that Ukraine is frying in Crimea and belgorod. Or the useless expensive that Patriot is rising around. Russia weapons are always good in papers.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Allthelight(m): 12:13pm On Oct 24, 2023
FoolishBoy419:


I'm surprised that someone is even asking me how US weapons are overpriced in 2023. It is mostly the result of how US economy is structured in terms of wages and general price levels. What costs a million dollars to build in America can be built in many other countries at a far lesser price. Sure, US weapons tend to have more quality but the difference is not good enough to justify the price difference.

Consider the cost of Russian Submarines, tanks, missiles, missile defense systems, and others against those of USA. US weapons are far more expensive but the qualities remain similar. In fact, some Russian weapons are even more effective. Most countries would rather buy the S-400 than USA's THAAD not because the THAAD is more expensive but because the S-400 has better quality.

The same thing applies in other things such as services and infrastructure. Why do you think many American companies prefer to outsource their production to Asia? Everything is overpriced in USA. Even food.
s-400 don't have a better quality it is just cheap... nothing more.

It is cheap not because of the engineers but because most of the components are western origin and not produced within russia.

Have u asked yourself why the u.s buys rockets from russia instead of building rocket ?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Elvictor: 12:19pm On Oct 24, 2023
WriterNiiig:
โšกNetanyahu:

If Hamas wins, we will all lose, and the Europeans and civilization will be in danger.


grin grin grin grin

All these US dogs always threatening Europe

From Zalensky now Netanyahu, Europeans don really suffer cheesy cheesy

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 12:19pm On Oct 24, 2023
WriterNiiig:
โšกNetanyahu:

If Hamas wins, we will all lose, and the Europeans and civilization will be in danger.

How can Hamas that's living in the Middle East endanger Europe? Hamas has not declared Jihad on any European country. I have never heard of Asians or Africans sailing across the ocean to Europe in order to protect themselves from danger but since 1945, Europeans have been doing this. They've attacked Korea, Panama, Philippines, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, Syria, and many other countries in the name of "protecting" their faraway lands from terrorism or communism.

If Palestinians endanger Europe tomorrow, it will be the result of the open support that Europeans are giving to the country that wants to exterminate them. You cannot leave your peaceful, prospering land and turn another man's region into a warzone and expect zero future repercussions from his children.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 12:28pm On Oct 24, 2023
okeysoninv:
Russia weapons are always good in papers, same thrash s-400 that Ukraine is frying in Crimea and belgorod. Or the useless expensive that Patriot is rising around. Russia weapons are always good in papers.

The S-400 is not invincible, but we know this because it's been battle-tested against a well-funded and US-backed army. The patriot missile that you are talking about is the most useless of the bunch. They have faced several battles with very poor results. I think Saudi Arabia is the biggest victim of that expensive scam

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 12:29pm On Oct 24, 2023
lanre316:


This fat boy of NK too dey talk. Nawao

Did he lie against the US and their sleepy joe?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by lanre316: 12:32pm On Oct 24, 2023
Procashtips:


Did he lie against the US and their sleepy joe?

I didn't say he lie. Jeez!!

He's a fat boy and he's talking. That's it. I'm just having fun with words.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by okeysoninv: 12:36pm On Oct 24, 2023
FoolishBoy419:


The S-400 is not invincible, but we know this because it's been battle-tested against a well-funded and US-backed army. The patriot missile that you are talking about is the most useless of the bunch. They have faced several battles with very poor results. I think Saudi Arabia is the biggest victim of that expensive scam
yea and why did Russia stopped using kinzhal to attack Patriot . You guys will be swallowing every propaganda with hook, line and sinker. Patriot is inferior but it has lendered the so hypersonic missiles useless that they even stopped attacking Kiev with it .
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 12:39pm On Oct 24, 2023
Allthelight:
s-400 don't have a better quality it is just cheap... nothing more.

It is cheap not because of the engineers but because most of the components are western origin and not produced within russia.

Have u asked yourself why the u.s buys rockets from russia instead of building rocket ?

Most of its components being from the West (I'm not sure this is even true) wouldn't necessarily make it cheaper. Don't forget that it's not just the S-400. Almost every Russian or Chinese weapon is cheaper than an American weapon of the same class. Like I said, this doesn't apply to weapons alone. It's just how their economy is structured. It's for this same reason that American retirees move to the Caribbean to enjoy their wealth.

Even Americans admit that Russians make better rocket engines. It's not even debatable

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by lanre316: 12:43pm On Oct 24, 2023
WriterNiiig:
โšกFrench President Macron:

France proposes creating a regional and international coalition to fight Hamas.

International coalition to fight a group of thugs on a tiny strip of land, who are not even a state army? What for?

Do these presidents receive any training at all before assuming office?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 12:47pm On Oct 24, 2023
okeysoninv:
yea and why did Russia stopped using kinzhal to attack Patriot . You guys will be swallowing every propaganda with hook, line and sinker. Patriot is inferior but it has lendered the so hypersonic missiles useless that they even stopped attacking Kiev with it .

Hypersonic missiles are still being developed. You should be more concerned about its failures to stop a single missile from ragtag groups in Yemen. The Patriot scam has been failing since 1991 and is still doing so in Ukraine.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by lanre316: 12:47pm On Oct 24, 2023
WriterNiiig:
โšกLeaders age:

๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ Mahmoud Abbas: 87
๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท Ayatollah Khamenei: 84
๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Joe Biden: 80
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท Lula da Silva: 78
๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ Anwar Ibrahim: 76
๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง King Charles: 74
๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ Benjamin Netanyahu: 74
๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ Narendra Modi: 73
๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฐ Shehbaz Sharif: 72
๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฌ Bola Tinubu: 71
๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Vladimir Putin: 71
๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Cyril Ramaphosa: 70
๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ Xi Jinping: 70
๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ Andrรฉs Manuel Obrador: 69
๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ท Tayyip Erdogan: 69
๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต Fumio Kishida: 66
๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Olaf Scholz: 65
๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ท Alberto Fernandez: 64
๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฉ Joko Widodo: 62
๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ Anthony Albanese: 60
๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Justin Trudeau: 51
๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ Pedro Sanchez: 51
๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น Giorgia Meloni: 46
๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ช Kaja Kallas: 46
๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท Emmanuel Macron: 45
๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Volodymyr Zelensky: 45
๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Rishi Sunak: 43
๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Mohammed bin Salman: 37
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ซ Ibrahim Traorรฉ: 35

Tinubu is not 71 o. His daughter Iyaloja is 60+

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Allthelight(m): 12:49pm On Oct 24, 2023
FoolishBoy419:


Most of its components being from the West (I'm not sure this is even true) wouldn't necessarily make it cheaper. Don't forget that it's not just the S-400. Almost every Russian or Chinese weapon is cheaper than an American weapon of the same class. Like I said, this doesn't apply to weapons alone. It's just how their economy is structured. It's for this same reason that American retirees move to the Caribbean to enjoy their wealth.

Even Americans admit that Russians make better rocket engines. It's not even debatable
like i have said you can't get true on twitter and facebook or on most news channels..


Most of the components are western while most of the materials are chinese or indian. No one can upset this balance except you are a real genius.

Even materials for the F35 are mainly chinese and india origin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by seunny4lif(m): 12:49pm On Oct 24, 2023
Allthelight:
s-400 don't have a better quality it is just cheap... nothing more.

It is cheap not because of the engineers but because most of the components are western origin and not produced within russia.

Have u asked yourself why the u.s buys rockets from russia instead of building rocket ?
The USA buy rockets from Russia because Russia rockets are the best, USA rockets are not good enough and same reason Russia government failed to produce commercial airline engines even if they are good with military engine.
It is now that Russia is trying to build commercial airline engines after seeing how USA and EU crashed her aviation services

USA most expensive drones have been shotdown or hacked by Iran, as Iran of all country, the country under massive sanctions.

The most expensive jet which is F35, have lost over 10 without being at war, Japan, USA and Israeli military have grounded F35 many times, and Canada refused to buy the F35 for the same reason for years until this year after many secrets talked between USA and Canada, that Canada said the will buy F35.
USA military equipments are overpriced and even USA government always said it, because USA military equiments are built by private contractors too many middlemen on the military deals unlike China and Russia military equiments are mostly built in their defense ministry.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 12:52pm On Oct 24, 2023
Allthelight:
like i have said you can't get true on twitter and facebook or on most news channels..


Most of the components are western while most of the materials are chinese. No one can upset this balance except you are a real genius

I googled and there was nothing to prove your claim and like I said, the S-400 is just one example.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Allthelight(m): 12:54pm On Oct 24, 2023
seunny4lif:

The USA buy rockets from Russia because Russia rockets are the best, USA rockets are not good enough and same reason Russia government failed to produce commercial airline engines even if they are good with military engine.
It is now that Russia is trying to build commercial airline engines after seeing how USA and EU crashed her aviation services

USA military equipments are overpriced and even USA government always said it, because USA military equiments are built by private contractors too many middlemen on the military deals unlike China and Russia military equiments are mostly built in their defense ministry.
about that rocket stuff like i said you can't get legit news on twitter.

I read a news about elon musk twitting about u.s broom sticks.

The U.S can build rockets but it will be very expensive so it is better to buy. So you are only partially correct
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Allthelight(m): 12:56pm On Oct 24, 2023
FoolishBoy419:


I googled and there was nothing to prove your claim and like I said, the S-400 is just one example.
in most technology around the world today it is almost impossible to remove western and chinese technology
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 12:59pm On Oct 24, 2023
Allthelight:
in most technology around the world today it is almost impossible to remove western and chinese technology

Yes, I know that. But don't forget you implied that most of them are from the West. And you still have not explained why Western weapons and other products are much more expensive. You have not explained why Western companies prefer to produce goods in Asia and then ship them back to their homelands.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Allthelight(m): 1:01pm On Oct 24, 2023
FoolishBoy419:


Yes, I know that. But don't forget you implied that most of them are from the West. And you still have not explained why Western weapons and other products are much more expensive. You have not explained why Western companies prefer to produce goods in Asia and then ship them back to their homelands.

Western products are more expensive because countries like China and India are very favourable, most (if not all) of earths rare metals are mined from china, this means materials for production will be very cheap.

See why most manufacturing companies are moving there ?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by seunny4lif(m): 1:01pm On Oct 24, 2023
Allthelight:
about that rocket stuff like i said you can't get legit news on twitter.

I read a news about elon musk twitting about u.s broom sticks.

The U.S can build rockets but it will be very expensive so it is better to buy. So you are only partially correct


Infact to cut the story short now, everyone buy from China.
Those people should move the factories to Ondo State joor cool cool

F35 have Chinese made part too grin grin grin
Even Isreali ordered some top military gears from China.
Russia arrested 2 top Generals after the MOD release billions for them to built home-made walkie-talkie, but those Gens went ahead to order from Chinese and cover the body with Russian cases .

China can just disable many countries system, if war broke out, just like USA did Russia dirty in 2008, when Russia military depends on GPS then, that was what forced Russia to take her GLONASS seriously and Syria gave them the best place to test it
grin grin

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Allthelight(m): 1:06pm On Oct 24, 2023
seunny4lif:



Infact to cut the story short now, everyone buy from China.
Those people should move the factories to Ondo State joor cool cool

F35 have Chinese made part too grin grin grin
Even Isreali ordered some top military gears from China.
Russia arrested 2 top Generals after the MOD release billions for them to built home-made walkie-talkie, but those Gens went ahead to order from Chinese and cover the body with Russian cases
grin grin
most technology consist of chinese materials and western secrets.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 1:09pm On Oct 24, 2023
seunny4lif:

The USA buy rockets from Russia because Russia rockets are the best, USA rockets are not good enough and same reason Russia government failed to produce commercial airline engines even if they are good with military engine.
It is now that Russia is trying to build commercial airline engines after seeing how USA and EU crashed her aviation services

USA most expensive drones have been shotdown or hacked by Iran, as Iran of all country, the country under massive sanctions.

The most expensive jet which is F35, have lost over 10 without being at war, Japan, USA and Israeli military have grounded F35 many times, and Canada refused to buy the F35 for the same reason for years until this year after many secrets talked between USA and Canada, that Canada said the will buy F35.
USA military equipments are overpriced and even USA government always said it, because USA military equiments are built by private contractors too many middlemen on the military deals unlike China and Russia military equiments are mostly built in their defense ministry.

Thanks bro!!

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 1:16pm On Oct 24, 2023
Allthelight:


Western products are more expensive because countries like China and India are very favourable, most (if not all) of earths rare metals are mined from china, this means materials for production will be very cheap.

See why most manufacturing companies are moving there ?


You are deliberately avoiding the issue of wages and general price levels but let's go like that. The most important thing is that you admitted that Western products are not more expensive solely because of quality. Now add in the fact that USA spends a lot of money on too many bases, too many aircraft carriers, too many unnecessary conflicts, too many parasitic allies, and you'll see why even a trillion dollars wouldn't do for USA as much as one would expect.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Allthelight(m): 1:19pm On Oct 24, 2023
FoolishBoy419:


You are deliberately avoiding the issue of wages and general price levels but let's go like that. The most important thing is that you admitted that Western products are not more expensive solely because of quality. Now add in the fact that USA spends a lot of money on too many bases, too many aircraft carriers, too many unnecessary conflicts, too many parasitic allies, and you'll see why even a trillion dollars wouldn't do for USA as much as one would expect.

Overprice ? If you are a manufacturer you won't use such term. I hope you know what a trillion dollars means because with around 50bn dollars i will do all those maintainance
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 1:19pm On Oct 24, 2023
WriterNiiig:
โšกThefts per 100,000 people:

๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ฐ Denmark: 3,949
๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช Sweden: 3,817
๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡พ Uruguay: 3,205
๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ Australia: 2,460
๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ฉ Grenada: 2,307
๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง UK: 2,283
๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฒ Bermuda: 2,190
๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท France: 2,135
๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ Finland: 2,081
๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ด Norway: 1,991
๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ Netherlands: 1,791
๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ USA: 1,750
๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Germany: 1,576
๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Canada: 1,409
๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฑ Chile: 969
๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡น Portugal: 749
๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฟ Czechia: 677
๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ท Argentina: 616
๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Russia: 512
๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ท South Korea: 400
๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ Spain: 351
๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฑ Poland: 331
๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต Japan: 239
๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ Mexico: 243
๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ท Turkey: 214
๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ช UAE: 52
๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ Philippines: 48
๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ญ Thailand: 48
๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ India: 29
๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฐ Pakistan: 21
๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฉ Indonesia: 10

The more developed, the more the theft?

Why then do people blame stealing, robbery and corruption on poverty?

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