please explain. is this related to Tinubus technique, is it personality, tribe or mentality or technique, coincidence or what?? or is it culture (state)?

I don't get

paxx:
explain

How did Fashola meet Tinubu?!


Fashola and Wale Tinubu, Tinubu's nephew attended Uniben together and graduated together

After graduation and service they came back to Lagos

Whenever Fashola and Wale wanted to go to Night Club, Wale takes Fashola to Tinubu's office late in the night around V.I and Tinubu always gives them enough money to flex

Soon Fashola started going to Tinubu's house for Ileya party, and soon he became his personal assistant

Subsequently Tinubu needed a trusted Chief of Staff and Fashola was like his Son then

Fashola's patience was tested many times same as his loyalty to Tinubu, but Fashola never compromised

When Abacha took everything Tinubu owned from him after NADECO struggle, Fashola went no where


I know the foolish kukunase idiot below knows nothing about loyalty because he wasn't raised with value but listen to Fashola himself


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG_ELLw97UU?si=MHY2KTsKym2hvTc9

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Cruise777:


How did Fashola meet Tinubu?!


Fashola and Wale Tinubu, Tinubu's nephew attended Uniben together and graduated together

After graduation and service they came back to Lagos

Whenever Fashola and Wale wanted to go to Night Club, Wale takes Fashola to Tinubu's office late in the night around V.I and Tinubu always gives them enough money to flex

Soon Fashola started going to Tinubu's house for Ileya party, and soon he became his personal assistant

Subsequently Tinubu needed a trusted Chief of Staff and Fashola was like his Son then

Fashola's patience was tested many times same as his loyalty to Tinubu, but Fashola never compromised



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hmm interesting

paxx:
please explain. is this related to tribe or mentality or technique or what

Fashola - Yoruba by tribe, believed to be cowardly
Fubara - Ijaw by tribe, largely warriors.

So the reason is in their ethnic backgrounds.

Amumaigwe:


Fashola - Yoruba by tribe, believed to be cowardly
Fubara - Ijaw by tribe, largely warriors.

So the reason is in their ethnic backgrounds.

Will you ever make heaven

Maybe the control freak that many people attribute to Tinubu is fake after all.

Think of it, no other state in Nigeria where successive governors have good relationships with their predecessors other than Lagos. From Edo to Kano, to Anambra to Cross River.

There has to really be something about the man-management skills of Tinubu.

paxx:
please explain. is this related to Tinubus technique, tribe or mentality or technique, coincidence or what

That is the fear some of us had from the beginning.
There wouldn't be any moral right to caution those who act as Godfathers in the states.
May God help Nigeria

Tinubu no control FASHOLA

But

Controls

Ambode and San owolu

Reading through fake reasons and rhetorics.

paxx:
please explain. is this related to Tinubus technique, tribe or mentality or technique, coincidence or what

Howbeit BAT/BAAT never controlled Fashola..#Fact.

In Nigeria all politicians only act with conflicts of interest...no foe no friends.
#OnlyInterests.
Only gullible followers fail to realize it.


Wittyness

I think it's more about personality not tribe as one fool is putting up there or relationship as the other storyteller (fable-teller actually) is rambling.

Fashola is not an ambitious man. Most of what he executed especially in his first term as gov where things already planned and strategized while Tinubu was gov but which he refused to implement due to political considerations and expediency. It is a credit to Tinubu that he was able to spot the lack of political ambition in fashola which gave him the leeway to control the political scene while fashola was performing magic on Lagos in his first term. It can be seen that while fashola became the poster boy of a working Lagos in his first term, he was not too keen on kicking Tinubu out of the spotlight, which he could have easily achieved based on his popularity then. Even after his tenure in govt, he never really sort to assert himself politically and was the only south west big shot in Buhari's era who never showed any interest whatsoever in running for President after Buhari.
I think Wike made the mistake of thinking what is required in a successor is docility. He is also not a good manager of men. He thinks threats and intimidation and money keeps men. That aspect of diplomacy which Tinubu mastered is severely lacking in Wike.
Lastly, one can't also discount the plurality of rivers and Lagos as a singular tribal state.

The different is greed and lack of political wisdom

paxx:
please explain. is this related to Tinubus technique, tribe or mentality or technique, coincidence or what

easier to do it in Lagos cos any party apart from APC is seen as an Igbo party and most Yorubas don't want an Igbo party in quote to take power in Lagos. So it's divide and rule

It all boils down to the culture of the people.
If you study the culture of the Yorubas, you will understand that they have great respect for their elders even when that elder is clearly wrong or evil. This is a fact.

In fact, saying something or doing something contrary to what such an elder says or does is considered disrespectful. That's how Tinubu can cage an entire region and nobody can challenge him, given his age, influence and money.

In the South South and South East, people won't tolerate that. While those two regions respect their elders, they expect them to be role models and always do the right thing. If you do something on the contrary, you will be challenged. In the East, you will even be disgraced or beaten. That's why god-fatherism doesn't last in those two regions.

9jatriot:
Maybe the control freak that many people attribute to Tinubu is fake after all.

Think of it, no other state in Nigeria where successive governors have good relationships with their predecessors other than Lagos. From Edo to Kano, to Anambra to Cross River.

There has to really be something about the man-management skills of Tinubu.

Tinubu is a control freak. A big one at that. He does not take dissent lightly among his inner caucus neither does he like to share the spotlight.
He was in charge of the political side while fashola was gov. For example, fashola in his bid to modernise Lagos wanted to do away completely with molue and yellow buses as well as touts, agberos and alcohol sellers round Lagos parks. It was Tinubu who stopped him from taking that action pointing out the need for those guys to maintain control over the political scene. Another one is when fashola summarily sacked all the Lagos doctors in 2011. It took Tinubu to intervene before fashola backed down. So it's not as if Tinubu gives whoever is gov free hand especially politics wise.

paxx:


hmm interesting

And this is Fashola answering


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG_ELLw97UU?si=MHY2KTsKym2hvTc9

There are 5 other states in the SW, how come that so called respect does not work in those states.
I still believe Tinubu has his way with people.

SoNature:
It all boils down to the culture of the people.
If you study the culture of the Yorubas, you will understand that they have great respect for their elders even when that elder is clearly wrong or evil. This is a fact.

In fact, saying something or doing something contrary to such an elder says or does is considered disrespectful. That's how Tinubu can cage an entire region and nobody can challenge him, given his age, influence and money.

In the South South and South East, people won't tolerate that. While those two regions respect their elders, they expect them to be role models and always do the right thing. If you do something on the contrary, you will be challenged. In the East, you will even be disgraced or beaten. That's god-fatherism doesn't last in those two regions.

Wike made a big Mistake by choosing Fubara as his successor. Fubara knows everything Wike did with Rivers state funds and that alone is enough reason for Fubara to call Wike's bluff..... As it stands now Wike can't do anything to Fubara because Wike will lose out even if Fubara is removed today.

9jatriot:
There are 5 other states in the SW, how come that so called respect does not work in those states.
I still believe Tinubu has his way with people.

Don't mind this bigoted ignoramuses.
The first tribe to display disloyalty to their leader in Nigeria post-independence is the Yorubas.

Tafawa Balewa even while prime minister was wiping Ahmadu Bello's behind diligently.
Mike Okpara of the Eastern Region was subservient to the t even while Azikiwe was in faraway Lagos. If Azikiwe told him to stop breathing. He will nod in agreement.
The only troublesome one was the West where Ladoke Akintola broke ranks with Awolowo his leader and that ultimately led to Operation Weti e.
Same people who claimed Yoruba don't disrespect their leaders looked on while Ojukwu dragged them into a war and while Azikiwe turned them to serfs of the Northern oligarchs

SoNature:
It all boils down to the culture of the people.
If you study the culture of the Yorubas, you will understand that they have great respect for their elders even when that elder is clearly wrong or evil. This is a fact.

In fact, saying something or doing something contrary to such an elder says or does is considered disrespectful. That's how Tinubu can cage an entire region and nobody can challenge him, given his age, influence and money.

In the South South and South East, people won't tolerate that. While those two regions respect their elders, they expect them to be role models and always do the right thing. If you do something on the contrary, you will be challenged. In the East, you will even be disgraced or beaten. That's why god-fatherism doesn't last in those two regions.

Its all about consensus building, horsetrading, compromiseand diplomacy. An ex gov ought to know his boundaries and respect them, even if he is godfather. This is what makes tinubu different. The GAC decides a lot of things in lagos. It was that GAC that ambode offended and not necessarily tinubu. Can you compare Tinubus patience and tenacity, even when buhari shoved him aside with a personality like wike?

Abia state was under a godfather from 2007 to the best part of 2023. What about ibori, in delta state. Some godfathers are even good to have around, as they act as both protector and bridgebuilders in their state.

Wike might be street smart but not polished. He talks a lot. He ought to have learnt to keep his best thoughts close to his chest. His larger than life veneer has been unravelled by the events of yesterday. His god complex has been shattered overnight.

paxx:
please explain. is this related to Tinubus technique, is it personality, tribe or mentality or technique, coincidence or what?? or is it culture (state)?

TINUBU is a master in Nigeria politics. CHRIS UBA couldn't control NGIGE, PETER OBI couldn't control OBIANO , KWANKWASO couldn't control GANDUJE

paxx:
please explain. is this related to Tinubus technique, is it personality, tribe or mentality or technique, coincidence or what?? or is it culture (state)?

We don't service eyes or leak a*ss inhere

paxx:
please explain. is this related to Tinubus technique, is it personality, tribe or mentality or technique, coincidence or what?? or is it culture (state)?

Even if he controlled, it must have been a good one as Fasola went on to become an excellent governor. Many backward states would pray to have such control if it brings good governance.

Amumaigwe:


Fashola - Yoruba by tribe, believed to be cowardly
Fubara - Ijaw by tribe, largely warriors.

So the reason is in their ethnic backgrounds.

Tinubu and Fashola are always giving ibos nightmares.

SoNature:
It all boils down to the culture of the people.
If you study the culture of the Yorubas, you will understand that they have great respect for their elders even when that elder is clearly wrong or evil. This is a fact.

In fact, saying something or doing something contrary to such an elder says or does is considered disrespectful. That's how Tinubu can cage an entire region and nobody can challenge him, given his age, influence and money.

In the South South and South East, people won't tolerate that. While those two regions respect their elders, they expect them to be role models and always do the right thing. If you do something on the contrary, you will be challenged. In the East, you will even be disgraced or beaten. That's why god-fatherism doesn't last in those two regions.

@bolded. Like Pa Adebanjo that is much older than Tinubu, but yorubas still dragged him and Bode George. Yorubas will still accord respect based on age, but they won't be shy to call you out when you misbehave.

Tinubu was able to cage the entire southwest but a much older Obj wasn't able to, even as president. Dey play.

Just say you don't understand Tinubu's managerial and team building skills.

SoNature:
It all boils down to the culture of the people.
If you study the culture of the Yorubas, you will understand that they have great respect for their elders even when that elder is clearly wrong or evil. This is a fact.

In fact, saying something or doing something contrary to such an elder says or does is considered disrespectful. That's how Tinubu can cage an entire region and nobody can challenge him, given his age, influence and money.

In the South South and South East, people won't tolerate that. While those two regions respect their elders, they expect them to be role models and always do the right thing. If you do something on the contrary, you will be challenged. In the East, you will even be disgraced or beaten. That's why god-fatherism doesn't last in those two regions.

Lol which culture? It’s like you don’t know what you’re taking about.

Walahi no region change it for their politician like the Yoruba ever since the days of Wetie or even before that.

In Oyo, Ladoja fell out with Baba Adedibu and was returned governor.
In Ogun, Gbenga Daniel fell out with his predecessor
In Osun, Oyetola and Aregbesola feud is apparent
In Ekiti, Fayose change am for Obasanjo
In Ondo, Akeredolu self dey fight with his deputy

Nearly ALL states in Nigeria have one kind of issue with predecessor and successor and it is only someone delusional that will think SW politicians don’t go against their predecessor or godfather.

Lagos is just different. Tinubu don’t behave like a typical predecessor with superiority complex, that man knows how to manage men and how to always be out of the scene of governance.

Whether in Ogun or Kano, if a politician have the strategy of Tinubu, he will always have his way. Abi you no see how he roll with Northern governor towards the primaries election of APC? They even went openly against Buhari for Tinubu. Are they Yoruba too?

I never read or come across any write-up where Tinubu despite his grip on Lagos, restricted a sitting governor to a 500m project, demand 70% of monthly IGR for his personal use. Wike doesn't know how to play godfatherism.

Kcfresh2103:
I never read or come across any write-up where Tinubu despite his grip on Lagos, restricted a sitting governor to a 500m project, demand 70% of monthly IGR for his personal use. Wike doesn't know how to play godfatherism.

This is exactly what I was saying. Tinubu is not a “godfather” in that sense because he doesn’t usually use authority to stamp his relevance.

Tinubu is the only leader I know that will share the profit 80/20 in favor of his disciples. Tinubu roll with his disciples like brothers, they all win and lose together so those people inturn owe him maximum loyalty.

Tinubu run his own Godfatherism like a system. Everyone know their rank and level irrespective of your status. He need not come in to remand you as people above your rank themselves will call you to order. It is not a one man godfather thing.

Cruise777:

Fashola and Wale Tinubu, Tinubu's nephew attended Uniben together and graduated together

Spewing falsehood as FACTS....How can Tinube who is said to be the nephew of Wale Tinubu's father, also be Wale Tinubu's uncle or are they not supposed to be cousins?

The nephew to your father is your cousin, not your Uncle!

Kcfresh2103:
I never read or come across any write-up where Tinubu despite his grip on Lagos, restricted a sitting governor to a 500m project, demand 70% of monthly IGR for his personal use. Wike doesn't know how to play godfatherism.

Wike.is trying to play godfatherism like Peter Obi. This always almost end up in failure.

Fashiola ikoyi Sherlock Holmes 😭😂

Amumaigwe:


Fashola - Yoruba by tribe, believed to be cowardly
Fubara - Ijaw by tribe, largely warriors.

So the reason is in their ethnic backgrounds.

So Fashola is a coward and fubara is a brave lion.

So conversely is wike weak for not exerting influence and tinubu strong and brave for his bravado and overbearing influence?