Kukutente23:

Don't mind this bigoted ignoramuses.
The first tribe to display disloyalty to their leader in Nigeria post-independence is the Yorubas.

Tafawa Balewa even while prime minister was wiping Ahmadu Bello's behind diligently.
Mike Okpara of the Eastern Region was subservient to the t even while Azikiwe was in faraway Lagos. If Azikiwe told him to stop breathing. He will nod in agreement.
The only troublesome one was the West where Ladoke Akintola broke ranks with Awolowo his leader and that ultimately led to Operation Weti e.
Same people who claimed Yoruba don't disrespect their leaders looked on while Ojukwu dragged them into a war and while Azikiwe turned them to serfs of the Northern oligarchs

God bless you my brother.....they are fond of twisting things up and down.

Very simple
Lagos State after 2003 was the only state in the SW not under PDP

Tinubu had successfully fought Obasanjo and was in total control of his party the AD a relatively small party unlike PDP

Tinubu effectively owned the party
That meant that every single legislator in Lagos state and Local government chairman was put their by him.
He grew the party to eventually take back the SW from PDP

So that model of AD growing from one state is difficult to replicate. PDP is a bigger party

There was no party elder from any other state to intervene

Also In rivers there is the Ijaw vs Ikwerre Issue just like there was Urhobo versus others in Delta
Lagos state is majorly Yoruba dominated and by 2007 Tinubu was very rich and in full control of the House of Assembly because every single person there was chosen by him

Even at AD primaries they did open ballot and Tinubu would stand there to supervise the voting

9jatriot:
Maybe the control freak that many people attribute to Tinubu is fake after all.

Think of it, no other state in Nigeria where successive governors have good relationships with their predecessors other than Lagos. From Edo to Kano, to Anambra to Cross River.

There has to really be something about the man-management skills of Tinubu.

it's because Yorubas worship money and are coward by nature.

I feel like another reason why Tinubu was able to have a good handle on things was because he was a little more strategic than Wike.

If you guys recall, towards the end of Tinubu’s governorship tenure in 2007, he picked up a senatorial nomination from his party but after a second thought, he forfeited the nomination and chose to stay back in Lagos to personally monitor and build his political base. Wike on the other hand carry head go Abuja go collect Minister work and is still expecting 100% loyalty from the folks he left in his base in Rivers State. Only a matter of time for cracks to start becoming obvious. This is where Tinubu showed political sagacity. Wike still dey learn

Kukutente23:

Don't mind this bigoted ignoramuses.
The first tribe to display disloyalty to their leader in Nigeria post-independence is the Yorubas.

Tafawa Balewa even while prime minister was wiping Ahmadu Bello's behind diligently.
Mike Okpara of the Eastern Region was subservient to the t even while Azikiwe was in faraway Lagos. If Azikiwe told him to stop breathing. He will nod in agreement.
The only troublesome one was the West where Ladoke Akintola broke ranks with Awolowo his leader and that ultimately led to Operation Weti e.
Same people who claimed Yoruba don't disrespect their leaders looked on while Ojukwu dragged them into a war and while Azikiwe turned them to serfs of the Northern oligarchs

I knew of this,just didn't have the strength to type.
Mko abiola used his newspaper to mess up awolowo.ladoke akin tola broke ranks and teamed up with the North.
Even of late,prof yemi wanted the presidential office .
So much for respect for elders.

Cruise777:


How did Fashola meet Tinubu?!


Fashola and Wale Tinubu, Tinubu's nephew attended Uniben together and graduated together

After graduation and service they came back to Lagos

Whenever Fashola and Wale wanted to go to Night Club, Wale takes Fashola to Tinubu's office late in the night around V.I and Tinubu always gives them enough money to flex

Soon Fashola started going to Tinubu's house for Ileya party, and soon he became his personal assistant

Subsequently Tinubu needed a trusted Chief of Staff and Fashola was like his Son then

Fashola's patience was tested many times same as his loyalty to Tinubu, but Fashola never compromised

When Abacha took everything Tinubu owned from him after NADECO struggle, Fashola went no where


I know the foolish kukunase idiot below knows nothing about loyalty because he wasn't raised with value but listen to Fashola himself


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG_ELLw97UU?si=MHY2KTsKym2hvTc9

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Good watch

yarimo:
TINUBU is a master in Nigeria politics. CHRIS UBA couldn't control NGIGE, PETER OBI couldn't control OBIANO , KWANKWASO couldn't control GANDUJE

simply because Yorubas are servile.
Dobaale people and ranka Dede people are the problem of Nigeria

engrchykae:
simply because Yorubas are servile.
Dobaale people and ranka Dede people are the problem of Nigeria

Good you acknowledge Lagos is Yoruba
Now since we don't see this in any other Yoruba state
We must acknowledge,from your logic,that Lagos is even MORE YORUBA than any other state in showcasing Yoruba nature

Gajagojo:
Very simple
Lagos State after 2003 was the only state in the SW not under PDP

Tinubu had successfully fought Obasanjo and was in total control of his party the AD a relatively small party unlike PDP

Tinubu effectively owned the party
That meant that every single legislator in Lagos state and Local government chairman was put their by him.
He grew the party to eventually take back the SW from PDP

So that model of AD growing from one state is difficult to replicate. PDP is a bigger party

There was no party elder from any other state to intervene

Also In rivers there is the Ijaw vs Ikwerre Issue just like there was Urhobo versus others in Delta
Lagos state is majorly Yoruba dominated and by 2007 Tinubu was very rich and in full control of the House of Assembly because every single person there was chosen by him

Even at AD primaries they did open ballot and Tinubu would stand there to supervise the voting

How many poling units can Tinubu stand to supervise at same time during primaries? Cos primaries are held same time

Odibembem:


How many poling units can Tinubu stand to supervise at same time during primaries? Cos primaries are held same time

What are you talking about ?primaries for what?polling units for what?

paxx:
please explain. is this related to Tinubus technique, is it personality, tribe or mentality or technique, coincidence or what?? or is it culture (state)?

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It's not about controlling. It's more of a cultural thing. The west obeys their elders either good or bad.
But other zones don't worship humans, especially in the eastern zone. Everything you have na for your pocket.
If you remove federal might from eastern states governors and politicians, they are absolutely nothing.

9japride:
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It's not about controlling. It's more of a cultural thing. The west obeys their elders either good or bad.
But other zones don't worship humans, especially in the eastern zone. Everything you have na for your pocket.
If you remove federal might from eastern states governors and politicians, they are absolutely nothing.

The West?
So we should have observed this in Ogun,Oyo,Osun,Ondo and Ekiti?
Tinubu should have won Lagos in the presidential election?

The truth is you believe what you want to believe and only see evidence that supports your belief but ignore all the contrary evidence

You are illogical,irrational and biased.
Is Lagos state the only state in the West?
Did Rivers people obey their leader when they voted Tinubu?

Gajagojo:
The West?
So we should have observed this in Ogun,Oyo,Osun,Ondo and Ekiti?
Tinubu should have won Lagos in the presidential election?

The truth is you believe what you want to believe and only see evidence that supports your belief but ignore all the contrary evidence

You are illogical,irrational and biased.
Is Lagos state the only state in the West?
Did Rivers people obey their leader when they voted Tinubu?

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Lagos state is not the only state in the west, but due to the strategic position of Lagos and the amount of power and influence Tinubu got during that period of Nigeria just starting afresh with democracy. He took advantage of time period and in the whole western region, Lagos state is the power house and as such a leader from there is highly respected.
That period also, Ibori of Delta state took advantage of that new political era to be a Godfather too. But, due to the culture of the west, they respected Tinubu a lot.
But such can't happen in the eastern region especially. In the east a lot of people hustle for their money and don't depend on government money. So, one individual can't control anyone over there.
After all, the government money is for everyone and not for any particular individual.
Wike was using Rivers state influence to act funny then, he doesn't know that he can't hold such power for long.
Some zones don't give a fu€k about your influence and power.

9japride:
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Lagos state is not the only state in the west, but due to the strategic position of Lagos and the amount of power and influence Tinubu got during that period of Nigeria just starting afresh with democracy. He took advantage of time period and in the whole western region, Lagos state is the power house and as such a leader from there is highly respected.
That period also, Ibori of Delta state took advantage of that new political era to be a Godfather too. But, due to the culture of the west, they respected Tinubu a lot.
But such can't happen in the eastern region especially. In the east a lot of people hustle for their money and don't depend on government money. So, one individual can't control anyone over there.
After all, the government money is for everyone and not for any particular individual.
Wike was using Rivers state influence to act funny then, he doesn't know that he can't hold such power for long.
Some zones don't give a fu€k about your influence and power.

You are talking nonsense

Were Rivers people obeying leader when they voted Tinubu?
If it is due to the culture then there must be other examples in the West
If there is not one single example out of 6 states and this same Tinubu lost presidential election in Lagos you need to stop and use your brain
You don't talk like someone that went to school capable of analysis
You just believe a thing and then look for logic to justify your belief ignoring all the evidence in front of you
You say it is culture
Culture that is found only in Lagos
But in Oyo before Makinde no governor did two terms?

Gajagojo:


You are talking nonsense

Were Rivers people obeying leader when they voted Tinubu?
If it is due to the culture then there must be other examples in the West
If there is not one single example out of 6 states and this same Tinubu lost presidential election in Lagos you need to stop and use your brain
You don't talk like someone that went to school capable of analysis
You just believe a thing and then look for logic to justify your belief ignoring all the evidence in front of you
You say it is culture
Culture that is found only in Lagos
But in Oyo before Makinde no governor did two terms?

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You are not getting my point. That new era of democracy made some people powerful. And Lagos state due to its position made Tinubu powerful. I respect Tinubu for he's intelligence and smartness in politics. I doubt if we have anyone as smart as he is.
If Tinubu were to come from the east or having Lagos too, it will be highly difficult to hold such grip for long due to the nature of the Igbos.
We won't tolerate such, the fact is that the west respect their elders too much.
What people should understand is that funny characters also grow to become elders tomorrow.
As for Rivers voting Tinubu, you witnessed how the election went. For your information, the Igbo culture has a high influence in Rivers.
Tinubu lost Lagos because, a lot of Nigerians are based in Lagos compared to other western states.

seanfer:
Wike made a big Mistake by choosing Fubara as his successor. Fubara knows everything Wike did with Rivers state funds and that alone is enough reason for Fubara to call Wike's bluff..... As it stands now Wike can't do anything to Fubara because Wike will lose out even if Fubara is removed today.

Fubara knows all Wike's dealing yes. What can he do about it? Absolutely nothing. EFCC won't arrest him, neither will police. Not in Tinubu government. Exposing him to the public won't change anything. Wike no get shame

paxx:
please explain. is this related to Tinubus technique, is it personality, tribe or mentality or technique, coincidence or what?? or is it culture (state)?

Ambode would have toppled Tinubu with a finger if no be fear fear. Tinubu runs Lagos like a mafia boss, willing to go dirty if need be. They are all scared of him.

BafanaBafana:

Fubara knows all Wike's dealing yes. What can he do about it? Absolutely nothing. EFCC won't arrest him, neither will police. Not in Tinubu government. Exposing him to the public won't change anything. Wike no get shame

If Fubara starts revoking CofO’s of those buildings Wike acquired through the back door alone, you will see Wike running around.
Don’t forget that for Wike to insist on making Fubara the Governor, he was trying to secure his loot.

BafanaBafana:

Ambode would have toppled Tinubu with a finger if no be fear fear. Tinubu runs Lagos like a mafia boss, willing to go dirty if need be. They are all scared of him.

If Ambode had tried what you suggested, he will be impeached in less than a month, remember not even the opposition members in the house of assembly was on Ambode’s side.
Obaseki and Fubara can face their enemies because they have some House of Assembly members in their camp.
Even if Ambode move to another party and get the party’s ticket, once he is impeached he can’t hold elected office again until the court rule in his Favour.
Politics is about calculation.

9japride:
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You are not getting my point. That new era of democracy made some people powerful. And Lagos state due to its position made Tinubu powerful. I respect Tinubu for he's intelligence and smartness in politics. I doubt if we have anyone as smart as he is.
If Tinubu were to come from the east or having Lagos too, it will be highly difficult to hold such grip for long due to the nature of the Igbos.
We won't tolerate such, the fact is that the west respect their elders too much.
What people should understand is that funny characters also grow to become elders tomorrow.
As for Rivers voting Tinubu, you witnessed how the election went. For your information, the Igbo culture has a high influence in Rivers.
Tinubu lost Lagos because, a lot of Nigerians are based in Lagos compared to other western states.

You are determined to push a biased and silly argument
Yes we witnessed the election in Rivers state Tinubu won

Your claim is that it is CULTURE
If it is CULTURE then why only Lagos
If your brain is working properly then it should find another explanation from Culture
Where is the evidence for the culture argument?
Now you are determined to bring in the SE why?
Is that the only place in Nigeria
Your problem is inferiority complex
That particular comparison is unnecessary because we are discussing SS

The same SS where Ibori put his cousin there and would still be firmly in charge if not for prison

Owologbo:


it's because Yorubas worship money and are coward by nature.

Yoruba are not coward by nature

The only tribe in Nigeria that built an empire from Nigeria to Benin republic and Togo even part of Ghana.

You think cowards could have an empire that big ?

PureFace1:


Yoruba are not coward by nature

The only tribe in Nigeria that built an empire from Nigeria to Benin republic and Togo even part of Ghana.

You think cowards could have an empire that big ?

They are baiting you trying to get a reaction
They wish they are like you
They want what you have

Ask yourself who is it in in Nigeria or the world that Yoruba would wake up and say "we want to be like them"?
No one

Aji sebi Oyo laari. Oyo o sebi baba enikan

Cruise777:


How did Fashola meet Tinubu?!


Fashola and Wale Tinubu, Tinubu's nephew attended Uniben together and graduated together

After graduation and service they came back to Lagos

Whenever Fashola and Wale wanted to go to Night Club, Wale takes Fashola to Tinubu's office late in the night around V.I and Tinubu always gives them enough money to flex

Soon Fashola started going to Tinubu's house for Ileya party, and soon he became his personal assistant

Subsequently Tinubu needed a trusted Chief of Staff and Fashola was like his Son then

Fashola's patience was tested many times same as his loyalty to Tinubu, but Fashola never compromised

When Abacha took everything Tinubu owned from him after NADECO struggle, Fashola went no where


I know the foolish kukunase idiot below knows nothing about loyalty because he wasn't raised with value but listen to Fashola himself


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG_ELLw97UU?si=MHY2KTsKym2hvTc9

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very very interesting story what of Ambode and Sanwo Olu can you emphasize on that too

The fundamental issue is that when Tinubu governed Lagos de did so through a small local party that he effectively owned
If it had been PDP it would have been impossible for him.
AD was effectively only present in Lagos State and grew organically from there
Also behind that is the PERCEPTION that Tinubu performed whilst he was governor

That is all there is to it
It would be impossible for anyone to do that in PDP but let us see if Wike succeeds

seanfer:


If Ambode had tried what you suggested, he will be impeached in less than a month, remember not even the opposition members in the house of assembly was on Ambode’s side.
Obaseki and Fubara can face their enemies because they have some House of Assembly members in their camp.
Even if Ambode move to another party and get the party’s ticket, once he is impeached he can’t hold elected office again until the court rule in his Favour.
Politics is about calculation.

Well.. Ambode for still try

BafanaBafana:

Well.. Ambode for still try

In Politics you don't start a war you can't win.... Ambode can still come back to complete his second term as Lagos state Governor, He can still get federal Appointment.. but Imagine him fighting and losing from the beginning that will be the end of his political career.

Gajagojo:

You are determined to push a biased and silly argument
Yes we witnessed the election in Rivers state Tinubu won

Your claim is that it is CULTURE
If it is CULTURE then why only Lagos
If your brain is working properly then it should find another explanation from Culture
Where is the evidence for the culture argument?
Now you are determined to bring in the SE why?
Is that the only place in Nigeria
Your problem is inferiority complex
That particular comparison is unnecessary because we are discussing SS

The same SS where Ibori put his cousin there and would still be firmly in charge if not for prison

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Pls leave this matter. Every region has their way of life and it might be good to them but not to others.

9japride:
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Pls leave this matter. Every region has their way of life and it might be good to them but not to others.

I think you should stop talking ignorantly

Such region s it that has the way of life you are talking about
Tell us

If you have nothing sensible to say he quiet and stop making baseless and stupid generalisation

Amumaigwe:


Fashola - Yoruba by tribe, believed to be cowardly
Fubara - Ijaw by tribe, largely warriors.

So the reason is in their ethnic backgrounds.

Cowards that used over three million of your grandparents for pepper soup and suya

Gajagojo:

I think you should stop talking ignorantly

Such region s it that has the way of life you are talking about
Tell us

If you have nothing sensible to say he quiet and stop making baseless and stupid generalisation

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It's ok

9japride:
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It's ok

. It is not ok
Guy if you want to insult people do so direct
Don't be a coward

No dey follow corner

How do you come to the stupid conclusion that Because something is happening in Lagos it is a way of life in the SW and the n you add empty chest beating to say it can never happen in the SE which is the main stupid point you want to make
Well for your information when Azikiwe was alive it did
He put Sam Mbakwe and Nwobodo in office
So we will not allow the subtle pushing of that stupid narrative of Yoruba are docile and Igbo are independent minded under any guise
Keep that stupid idea in your head

Gajagojo:
. It is not ok
Guy if you want to insult people do so direct
Don't be a coward

No dey follow corner

How do you come to the stupid conclusion that Because something is happening in Lagos it is a way of life in the SW and the n you add empty chest beating to say it can never happen in the SE which is the main stupid point you want to make
Well for your information when Azikiwe was alive it did
He put Sam Mbakwe and Nwobodo in office
So we will not allow the subtle pushing of that stupid narrative of Yoruba are docile and Igbo are independent minded under any guise
Keep that stupid idea in your head

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The statement of it's ok, is just to end discussion.
It's just the way of life of the Yoruba to have so much respect for elders, it's not an argument.
Just like northern Muslims who have so much respect for their islamic leaders.
I am not insulting anyone.