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Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by Ratello: 6:13pm On Oct 31, 2023 |
Kukutente23: God bless you my brother.....they are fond of twisting things up and down. |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by Gajagojo: 6:26pm On Oct 31, 2023 |
Very simple Lagos State after 2003 was the only state in the SW not under PDP Tinubu had successfully fought Obasanjo and was in total control of his party the AD a relatively small party unlike PDP Tinubu effectively owned the party That meant that every single legislator in Lagos state and Local government chairman was put their by him. He grew the party to eventually take back the SW from PDP So that model of AD growing from one state is difficult to replicate. PDP is a bigger party There was no party elder from any other state to intervene Also In rivers there is the Ijaw vs Ikwerre Issue just like there was Urhobo versus others in Delta Lagos state is majorly Yoruba dominated and by 2007 Tinubu was very rich and in full control of the House of Assembly because every single person there was chosen by him Even at AD primaries they did open ballot and Tinubu would stand there to supervise the voting |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by Owologbo(m): 7:00pm On Oct 31, 2023 |
9jatriot: it's because Yorubas worship money and are coward by nature. |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by geezville86: 7:12pm On Oct 31, 2023 |
I feel like another reason why Tinubu was able to have a good handle on things was because he was a little more strategic than Wike. If you guys recall, towards the end of Tinubu’s governorship tenure in 2007, he picked up a senatorial nomination from his party but after a second thought, he forfeited the nomination and chose to stay back in Lagos to personally monitor and build his political base. Wike on the other hand carry head go Abuja go collect Minister work and is still expecting 100% loyalty from the folks he left in his base in Rivers State. Only a matter of time for cracks to start becoming obvious. This is where Tinubu showed political sagacity. Wike still dey learn |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by engrchykae(m): 10:13pm On Oct 31, 2023 |
Kukutente23:I knew of this,just didn't have the strength to type. Mko abiola used his newspaper to mess up awolowo.ladoke akin tola broke ranks and teamed up with the North. Even of late,prof yemi wanted the presidential office . So much for respect for elders. 1 Like |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by donproject2(m): 10:15pm On Oct 31, 2023 |
Cruise777: Good watch |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by engrchykae(m): 10:16pm On Oct 31, 2023 |
yarimo:simply because Yorubas are servile. Dobaale people and ranka Dede people are the problem of Nigeria |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by Gajagojo: 4:15am On Nov 01, 2023 |
engrchykae: Good you acknowledge Lagos is Yoruba Now since we don't see this in any other Yoruba state We must acknowledge,from your logic,that Lagos is even MORE YORUBA than any other state in showcasing Yoruba nature |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by Odibembem: 5:29am On Nov 01, 2023 |
Gajagojo: How many poling units can Tinubu stand to supervise at same time during primaries? Cos primaries are held same time |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by Gajagojo: 5:37am On Nov 01, 2023 |
Odibembem:What are you talking about ?primaries for what?polling units for what? |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by 9japride(m): 5:42am On Nov 01, 2023 |
paxx:[color=#006600][/color] It's not about controlling. It's more of a cultural thing. The west obeys their elders either good or bad. But other zones don't worship humans, especially in the eastern zone. Everything you have na for your pocket. If you remove federal might from eastern states governors and politicians, they are absolutely nothing. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by Gajagojo: 5:47am On Nov 01, 2023 |
9japride:The West? So we should have observed this in Ogun,Oyo,Osun,Ondo and Ekiti? Tinubu should have won Lagos in the presidential election? The truth is you believe what you want to believe and only see evidence that supports your belief but ignore all the contrary evidence You are illogical,irrational and biased. Is Lagos state the only state in the West? Did Rivers people obey their leader when they voted Tinubu? 2 Likes |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by 9japride(m): 5:57am On Nov 01, 2023 |
Gajagojo:[color=#006600][/color] Lagos state is not the only state in the west, but due to the strategic position of Lagos and the amount of power and influence Tinubu got during that period of Nigeria just starting afresh with democracy. He took advantage of time period and in the whole western region, Lagos state is the power house and as such a leader from there is highly respected. That period also, Ibori of Delta state took advantage of that new political era to be a Godfather too. But, due to the culture of the west, they respected Tinubu a lot. But such can't happen in the eastern region especially. In the east a lot of people hustle for their money and don't depend on government money. So, one individual can't control anyone over there. After all, the government money is for everyone and not for any particular individual. Wike was using Rivers state influence to act funny then, he doesn't know that he can't hold such power for long. Some zones don't give a fu€k about your influence and power. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by Gajagojo: 6:09am On Nov 01, 2023 |
9japride: You are talking nonsense Were Rivers people obeying leader when they voted Tinubu? If it is due to the culture then there must be other examples in the West If there is not one single example out of 6 states and this same Tinubu lost presidential election in Lagos you need to stop and use your brain You don't talk like someone that went to school capable of analysis You just believe a thing and then look for logic to justify your belief ignoring all the evidence in front of you You say it is culture Culture that is found only in Lagos But in Oyo before Makinde no governor did two terms? 1 Like |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by 9japride(m): 6:37am On Nov 01, 2023 |
Gajagojo:[color=#006600][/color] You are not getting my point. That new era of democracy made some people powerful. And Lagos state due to its position made Tinubu powerful. I respect Tinubu for he's intelligence and smartness in politics. I doubt if we have anyone as smart as he is. If Tinubu were to come from the east or having Lagos too, it will be highly difficult to hold such grip for long due to the nature of the Igbos. We won't tolerate such, the fact is that the west respect their elders too much. What people should understand is that funny characters also grow to become elders tomorrow. As for Rivers voting Tinubu, you witnessed how the election went. For your information, the Igbo culture has a high influence in Rivers. Tinubu lost Lagos because, a lot of Nigerians are based in Lagos compared to other western states. |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by BafanaBafana: 6:52am On Nov 01, 2023 |
seanfer:Fubara knows all Wike's dealing yes. What can he do about it? Absolutely nothing. EFCC won't arrest him, neither will police. Not in Tinubu government. Exposing him to the public won't change anything. Wike no get shame |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by BafanaBafana: 6:54am On Nov 01, 2023 |
paxx:Ambode would have toppled Tinubu with a finger if no be fear fear. Tinubu runs Lagos like a mafia boss, willing to go dirty if need be. They are all scared of him. |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by seanfer(m): 7:18am On Nov 01, 2023 |
BafanaBafana: If Fubara starts revoking CofO’s of those buildings Wike acquired through the back door alone, you will see Wike running around. Don’t forget that for Wike to insist on making Fubara the Governor, he was trying to secure his loot. |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by seanfer(m): 7:22am On Nov 01, 2023 |
BafanaBafana: If Ambode had tried what you suggested, he will be impeached in less than a month, remember not even the opposition members in the house of assembly was on Ambode’s side. Obaseki and Fubara can face their enemies because they have some House of Assembly members in their camp. Even if Ambode move to another party and get the party’s ticket, once he is impeached he can’t hold elected office again until the court rule in his Favour. Politics is about calculation. 1 Like |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by Gajagojo: 9:31am On Nov 01, 2023 |
9japride:You are determined to push a biased and silly argument Yes we witnessed the election in Rivers state Tinubu won Your claim is that it is CULTURE If it is CULTURE then why only Lagos If your brain is working properly then it should find another explanation from Culture Where is the evidence for the culture argument? Now you are determined to bring in the SE why? Is that the only place in Nigeria Your problem is inferiority complex That particular comparison is unnecessary because we are discussing SS The same SS where Ibori put his cousin there and would still be firmly in charge if not for prison |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by PureFace1(m): 10:12am On Nov 01, 2023 |
Owologbo: Yoruba are not coward by nature The only tribe in Nigeria that built an empire from Nigeria to Benin republic and Togo even part of Ghana. You think cowards could have an empire that big ? 1 Like |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by Gajagojo: 11:07am On Nov 01, 2023 |
PureFace1:They are baiting you trying to get a reaction They wish they are like you They want what you have Ask yourself who is it in in Nigeria or the world that Yoruba would wake up and say "we want to be like them"? No one Aji sebi Oyo laari. Oyo o sebi baba enikan 2 Likes |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by StarRiderr: 11:25am On Nov 01, 2023 |
Cruise777:very very interesting story what of Ambode and Sanwo Olu can you emphasize on that too |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by Gajagojo: 11:43am On Nov 01, 2023 |
The fundamental issue is that when Tinubu governed Lagos de did so through a small local party that he effectively owned If it had been PDP it would have been impossible for him. AD was effectively only present in Lagos State and grew organically from there Also behind that is the PERCEPTION that Tinubu performed whilst he was governor That is all there is to it It would be impossible for anyone to do that in PDP but let us see if Wike succeeds |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by BafanaBafana: 1:43pm On Nov 01, 2023 |
seanfer:Well.. Ambode for still try |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by seanfer(m): 1:58pm On Nov 01, 2023 |
BafanaBafana: In Politics you don't start a war you can't win.... Ambode can still come back to complete his second term as Lagos state Governor, He can still get federal Appointment.. but Imagine him fighting and losing from the beginning that will be the end of his political career. |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by 9japride(m): 5:58pm On Nov 01, 2023 |
Gajagojo:[color=#006600][/color] Pls leave this matter. Every region has their way of life and it might be good to them but not to others. |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by Gajagojo: 7:10pm On Nov 01, 2023 |
9japride:I think you should stop talking ignorantly Such region s it that has the way of life you are talking about Tell us If you have nothing sensible to say he quiet and stop making baseless and stupid generalisation |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by StreetFight: 7:12pm On Nov 01, 2023 |
Amumaigwe: Cowards that used over three million of your grandparents for pepper soup and suya |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by 9japride(m): 2:32am On Nov 02, 2023 |
Gajagojo:[color=#006600][/color] It's ok |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by Gajagojo: 3:55am On Nov 02, 2023 |
9japride:. It is not ok Guy if you want to insult people do so direct Don't be a coward No dey follow corner How do you come to the stupid conclusion that Because something is happening in Lagos it is a way of life in the SW and the n you add empty chest beating to say it can never happen in the SE which is the main stupid point you want to make Well for your information when Azikiwe was alive it did He put Sam Mbakwe and Nwobodo in office So we will not allow the subtle pushing of that stupid narrative of Yoruba are docile and Igbo are independent minded under any guise Keep that stupid idea in your head |
Re: How is Tinubu Able To Control Fashola, But Wike Cant Control Fubara? by 9japride(m): 4:44pm On Nov 02, 2023 |
Gajagojo:[color=#006600][/color] The statement of it's ok, is just to end discussion. It's just the way of life of the Yoruba to have so much respect for elders, it's not an argument. Just like northern Muslims who have so much respect for their islamic leaders. I am not insulting anyone. |
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