Maynman:

You are the dullard here, do you know how many people has taught you, yet you still remain EMPTY.
Even your own definition you brought, you don't understand it.


"You are a dullard, look at the definition you brought, now answer.
Is chaos not part of the universe?
And where did chaos come from?
Did the MATTER in chaos come by "chance"?

Everyone on here says you lack comprehension and you keep proving it."

Half learned men like Jaephoenix reject it
You dearly embrace it
Salutations to Maynman
The first and only person zealously advocating that chaos (syn disorder, disarray, confusion, disorganization, mess, shambles) could have brought about order, organization, complexity and everything in the universe.
Keep joking around
Oops! I seem to have dropped something from the dictionary that may have excited you or added evidence to your doctrine 😁
Maynman, Bishop of Chaos
Pls, keep preaching chaos

Whether na Chaos or Chance or Creator
Choose the letter C that is dear to you


Who taught you English that you exchange it for Randomness and unpredictability?
Abeg rest
Enjoy your day
Unleash your monikers to like and share your comments so you'll look smart to yourself

Aemmyjah:

Why don't you bring another definition for "chaos", illiterate was just regurgitating what his watchtower slave masters taught him, he doesn't even know what "chaos" is.

You are the dullard here, do you know how many people has taught you, yet you still remain EMPTY.
Even your own definition you brought, you don't understand it.


Is chaos not part of the universe?
And where did chaos come from?
Did the MATTER in chaos come by "chance"?

Everyone on here says you lack comprehension and you keep proving it."

Aemmyjah:



doctrine 😁

Better than yours, that your authority and salvation depends on old men 😂😂
It seems you and madmax, don't agree with this or you just pretending 😂

Aemmyjah:



You don't have sense
What spiritual message is there in a myth?
If i say that tortoise had a rough shell cos he went to heaven and betrayed the birds and jumped down to earth on rough materials and his wife patched them. Is there a spiritual message to it?
There are parables and illustrations with their spiritual message tho but not in a myth

yes the message there is not to be greedy....

and always be appreciative..

you see what i mean?

you are blind and dumb..

22jumpstreet1:


yes the message there is not to be greedy....

and always be appreciative..

you see what i mean?

you are blind and dumb..

Greed?
In a creation story
Ok na

Aemmyjah:



1. To make something requires a conscious effort and process towards achieving it. Not everyone knows the biology of how urine is formed. Many arr completely ignorant about it. Someone I did not regulate or initiate or have no control on the volume or when it should happen is what you say I made. You be Olodo


2. The first and only nation the Bible describes as an empire, having several cities (done by their slaves), ancient wonder of architecture, kingship, education, law, taxes, religion, trade, transportation, weapons of war (chariots), dress and most dominant world power (the first) is now located in which continent?
You be mumu
Archaology supports what the Bible said but evolutionist hijacked it to say humans evolved there

1. When you eat food, who digests it and forms feces? When you blink your eye as a foreign body like a fly tries to enter, who did it?
When your body does other actions like knee jerk reflexes, extensor reflex etc, who made those actions? When your rectal ampulla is filled with stool and your rectum is forcing the stool out, who is doing that? You or yahweh?
Who did all that? Yahweh or you?
Please answer

2. What is the name if this nation you described? Please humor me
And show me archeological backings of this nation. Thank you

Aemmyjah:



But parents create children?
Who did you say was your Biology teacher in secondary school again?

Yup. Parents create children. I have given ample evidence in this thread alone.
Again for the umpteenth time, if you have contrary views, do show me with evidence.

Aemmyjah:



Even a retard will not even agree with this
Whatever makes sense to you tho

Lol. Not just me, science says so. So obviously a cretard(like you) can't be smarter than science

jaephoenix:

Lol. Not just me, science says so. So obviously a cretard(like you) can't be smarter than science

Why not question what science says?
🤷‍♂️
Science has not always been accurate tho

jaephoenix:


Yup. Parents create children. I have given ample evidence in this thread alone.
Again for the umpteenth time, if you have contrary views, do show me with evidence.

They did not create
They create

Which one you de?

Aemmyjah:



I meant to say phenotype and gene expression

Lol
Okay, this is getting interesting
So can you explain how the environment affects human phenotypic and genetic expressions. I'm still listening
The person liking your comments is even dumber than you. A stack of wet bricks is smarter than y'all

jaephoenix:

1. When you eat food, who digests it and forms feces? When you blink your eye as a foreign body like a fly tries to enter, who did it?
When your body does other actions like knee jerk reflexes, extensor reflex etc, who made those actions? When your rectal ampulla is filled with stool and your rectum is forcing the stool out, who is doing that? You or yahweh?
Who did all that? Yahweh or you?
Please answer

2. What is the name if this nation you described? Please humor me
And show me archeological backings of this nation. Thank you

1. It was my parents that put my throat and all the organs that regulate eating and digestion
They even put bacteria and enzymes that help to break down the food and put the organs at different pH levels...

2. What nation?

Aemmyjah:



They should have believed they form by accident na
😁

Irrelevant. Not admissible in the context of the argument

jaephoenix:

Lol
Okay, this is getting interesting
So can you explain how the environment affects human phenotypic and genetic expressions. I'm still listening
The person liking your comments is even dumber than you. A stack of wet bricks is smarter than y'all

Olodo
Nutrition can affect ones phenotype
Pollution and toxins can affect one's phenotype
Social interaction can affect ones phenotype
You are a fake doctor, you are not even a doctor. Maybe you are a plant doctor or insect doctor but even an insect doctor should not ask these
Did you study epigenetics in school?

jaephoenix:

Irrelevant. Not admissible in the context of the argument

Your mean your forefathers were all stupid to ignore that nature came by accident?

Aemmyjah:



1. Either it was lost or removed... Go amd do research ok Pharoah and The semites

2. There's even archeological evidence that mentions Abram and fits what the Bible said about him purchasing a field. Jesus is a historical person. You want to tell us that Muhammed is mythical too?
Sense is far from you

3. Were they in Egypt? Would you expect the Egyptians (their writing is supervised by the Scribes and priests) to write anything good about the people amd their God who humiliated their gods, people king and army? Thinking is free... Poor critical thinker

4. The Jews so hated Jesus that critics call him a Roman character even though much of his dealings amd miracles were to the Jews and not the Romans. They disregard him and reject him. Were you expecting em to write about events surrounding his death?
Besides, the idea that these ones were raised up to life is not accurate. The Bible says that the earthquaked and the rocks split and many bodies of the holy ones that were fallen asleep (dead) were raised up (or lifted). They were not resurrected to life. The force of the quake must have been so strong that it exposed the bodies of such ones. Similar events also happen in our generations? Those that went into the holy city were not the dead ones but eyewitnesses of those who witnessed what happened. Next time, put your brain in your head and read Bible, not in your pocket

1. Lol.
The word “pharaoh” is an Old Egyptian word meaning “Great House,” a reference to the palace where the pharaoh resides. Egyptian rulers are known as Pharaohs just like Yoruba rulers are Obas. It is a title, so which particular pharaoh are you referring to, dummy?
Also Semites can be Arabs, Jews or many other tribes in the Middle East, so what exactly do you want me to research on?

2. Kindly provide the archeological evidence. And please don't send me to go fetch it. You brought the claim, so look up the evidence yourself

3. The Egyptian historians were Herodotus, Strabo, Diodorus Siculus and they were geographers, not priests. And they were Greeks, not Egyptians. And thus not influenced by any Egyptians. Besides, if you say they were biased, what was your evidence? None. Also have you asked yourself why no history book incorporates the bible stories?

4. Funny enough, the bible was written by the Romans, not the Jews

Its unfortunate you have resorted to dishonesty to explain away your bible lies.
This is what King James Version said of the passage

Mat 27:51 to 53- And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose. And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many

It is clearly written in black and white that the saints rose up from the dead after the earthquake that happened, and went to the city.
Where did you see eye witness in this verse or passage? Why lie so much to defend the undefendable? You think I'm one of the gullible fooools you associate with?

Aemmyjah:



They should have believed they form by accident na
😁

They believed it was from the gods, not by accident.
You think you're being smart but actually youre getting more stupid by the day

jaephoenix:

They believed it was from the gods, not by accident.
You think you're being smart but actually youre getting more stupid by the day

Understand first before you read
Your fathers accepted that everything came from God or the gods
You disagree.
Who is stupid? You or them?

cornelboy:

Na atheist create logic?

Logic goes against religion, just so you know

jaephoenix:


1. Lol.
The word “pharaoh” is an Old Egyptian word meaning “Great House,” a reference to the palace where the pharaoh resides. Egyptian rulers are known as Pharaohs just like Yoruba rulers are Obas. It is a title, so which particular pharaoh are you referring to, dummy?
Also Semites can be Arabs, Jews or many other tribes in the Middle East, so what exactly do you want me to research on?

2. Kindly provide the archeological evidence. And please don't send me to go fetch it. You brought the claim, so look up the evidence yourself

3. The Egyptian historians were Herodotus, Strabo, Diodorus Siculus and they were geographers, not priests. And they were Greeks, not Egyptians. And thus not influenced by any Egyptians. Besides, if you say they were biased, what was your evidence? None. Also have you asked yourself why no history book incorporates the bible stories?

4. Funny enough, the bible was written by the Romans, not the Jews

Its unfortunate you have resorted to dishonesty to explain away your bible lies.
This is what King James Version said of the passage

Mat 27:51 to 53- And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose. And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many

It is clearly written in black and white that the saints rose up from the dead after the earthquake that happened, and went to the city.
Where did you see eye witness in this verse or passage? Why lie so much to defend the undefendable? You think I'm one of the gullible fooools you associate with?

1. If you like, close your eyes to reality. As if every events is recorded in history. If you like, call it Arabs. In the past, Bible critics said certain people never existed cos there were no extra biblical references to them. An interesting example was David and Belshazzar. Even Pilate was said to not have existed. Archeological evidence gives proof to their existence. If you like, stand in the view of a critic, you have nothing meaningful to offer

2. Oga, there is archeological evidence to Abraham and not just any man named Abraham but it supports something he did in the Bible when he bore his former name, Abram. I even showed LordReed, he could not deny it. He simply said that just one archeological evidence is insignificant. So, go and find the evidence for yourself

3. Date to the timing of the exodus. Now, the historians during the period and those supervising and the custodians of the writings were Egyptian Scribes and priests. Yes or No?

4. Some call it as written by Roman's, some say Europeans. Even Africans are beginning to claim it. The account of the New Testament talks mentions almost nothing about the Roman's and their dealings. The Romans created the character, Jesus and began to persecute those that accepted their writings shey? 🤣


These days, Scholars have come to discover that king James is actually an inaccurate translation of the Bible with several additions and extortions that are not ij the original manuscripts. You know this but your mad zeal to criticize the Bible moves you to pick a poor translation. Are you not even unreasonable? You don't accept a book or it's authorship yet you want to quote from it to support or criticize a claim or event?
Again, it was not supporting that people were resurrected. There was a strong earthquake that split rocks and removed bodies from graves. Witnesses saw this and went into the city, evidently to share what happened.
Keep fooling around

cornelboy:

Lol the phone I'm using is from science. I enjoy a lot from science.
Don't talk as if all scientists believe in your "science myths" or science exists as an alternative for the creator.

All your billions of years ago, evolution theories, bigbang are all assumptions not fact. It's so funny you believe that humans evolved from the great ape and condemn us for believing in the Bible.
It's far logical to believe the bible than your articles filled with myths that are far from reality.

1. What scientific myths are you talking about? Be specific. Evolution is backed by science 100%. There are evolutional biologists and scientists.
2. All scientists must not believe in evolution(especially the religious ones even though they don't have the evidence to counter it) but science itself backs evolution up, to the hilt. There are many evidences which I have provided here. You can read up yourself (which I think you won't). So no, evolution isn't a theory. I repeat, evolution isn't a theory. Big Bang is a theory, and not related to evolution. Its unfortunate you and Aemmyjah don't know diddly squat about evolution but have been arguing for days about a topic you have no idea about.
3. Logic is the study of correct reasoning, including both formal and informal logic. Formal logic is the science of deductively valid inferences or logical truths. Logic bases on premises of facts, and facts are based on verifiable data. Evolution can be verified via genetics, embryology, history, archeology, paleontology etc. We evolved from the Great Apes cos research of fossils gives us the data. These data can be verified today, tomorrow, 50 years etc. It can be verified by anyone, anywhere.
Religion is not based on logic. It is based on faith, the very opposite of logic. The bible even blesses those that believe without seeing. The bible creation stories cannot be verified or accounted for, so how can it be facts?
How can you believe a god popped outta thin air, created the earth, made man from mud and then woman from the man's rib. Are these verifiable? No. So how can they be factual? You only believe it cos a certain book says so. Would you believe the Muslim creation story too since their own book says so? Would also believe thousands of other creation stories which were stated in books? If I believe your own version, why shouldn't I believe the Muslim version, or the Hindu, Aztec, Greek, Egyptian, Mayan etc versions which were all recorded on their own holy books?

cornelboy:

Hahaha who says that the creator came in the first place. He's been existing without a beginning and everything you see belongs to him. Keep asking your dumb question.

If the creator has another creator, where do you think the chains of creator would end, infinity?

It's very logical to say the mastermind started everything. All the credits go to him.

If you say the creator has been existing since eternity, then why can't humans and the universe exist since eternity?
No need to ask you for evidence of the bolded, cos you won't provide such.

jaephoenix:


1. What scientific myths are you talking about? Be specific. Evolution is backed by science 100%. There are evolutional biologists and scientists.
2. All scientists must not believe in evolution(especially the religious ones even though they don't have the evidence to counter it) but science itself backs evolution up, to the hilt. There are many evidences which I have provided here. You can read up yourself (which I think you won't). So no, evolution isn't a theory. I repeat, evolution isn't a theory. Big Bang is a theory, and not related to evolution. Its unfortunate you and Aemmyjah don't know diddly squat about evolution but have been arguing for days about a topic you have no idea about.
3. Logic is the study of correct reasoning, including both formal and informal logic. Formal logic is the science of deductively valid inferences or logical truths. Logic bases on premises of facts, and facts are based on verifiable data. Evolution can be verified via genetics, embryology, history, archeology, paleontology etc. We evolved from the Great Apes cos research of fossils gives us the data. These data can be verified today, tomorrow, 50 years etc. It can be verified by anyone, anywhere.
Religion is not based on logic. It is based on faith, the very opposite of logic. The bible even blesses those that believe without seeing. The bible creation stories cannot be verified or accounted for, so how can it be facts?
How can you believe a god popped outta thin air, created the earth, made man from mud and then woman from the man's rib. Are these verifiable? No. So how can they be factual? You only believe it cos a certain book says so. Would you believe the Muslim creation story too since their own book says so? Would also believe thousands of other creation stories which were stated in books? If I believe your own version, why shouldn't I believe the Muslim version, or the Hindu, Aztec, Greek, Egyptian, Mayan etc versions which were all recorded on their own holy books?

1. Abiogenesis has been dead since Louis Pasteur killed it. But why do you people still teach it as the basis of the origin of life. Life can never come from non-living matter. Who then is the ultimate source of life?
Big bang is not a theory. Na wetin? Na person name? Which theory then supports evolution?

2. I need hyperfaith to believe that everything emerge from nothing. Is that what is logical to you?

cornelboy:

Yes it's incoherent. The creator doesn't have to have another designer, any objections?

No. Then the universe doesn't have to have a designer, any objections?

jaephoenix:

No. Then the universe doesn't have to have a designer, any objections?

The universe then is an effect to it's own Cause. True or false?
See who is shouting logic
Your house doesn't need to have a builder then

cornelboy:

As if the parents gave birth to their children in their own power. No be person wey design them then go give praise to? The fact that jaephoenix is here today is the product of the intelligence of the designer.

Atheist are like a poor man who went home one day and found billions of dollars in his room. He also saw an address. Instead of looking for the address of his helper and show is gratitude, he was spending the money lavishly and even made people believe that the money came from his hard work lol

If they believe life and everything came by chance of course they can believe anything just to negate God.

So you believe I was designed? Okay.
So how come this designer give women babies that would kill them(the women) during the pregnancies? How come he makes babies that would be killers like Hitler, knowing all right that they would kill people including his own people(christians)?

Emusan:


And you said you have watched the video.

Definitely, either you didn't watch it or you watch it but lie.

Again point me out to the particular point. I may have missed it

Thorrn:


Interesting accusation. Let's examine it, shall we?



1. The argument is about the existence of God/s.

2. OP has to provide evidence/s to justify the existence of God/s.

3. OP presented the Bible as proof that his god exists.

4. Unfortunately, the Bible does not qualify as proof because the Bible already presupposes the existence of God, and is therefore flawed. It's like using the Harry Potter novels to prove the existence of Dementors.



You're wrong as usual.

It would have been an appeal to authority if I had said "Your argument is wrong because budaatum said so".

What I said was "Your argument is wrong because of X, which budaatum already pointed out

I don't expect you to note the difference between those two statements.



I'm not sure you even understand what an ad hominem is.



Given previous interactions with you, I know for a fact that you are[b] far less intelligent[/b] than Aemmyjah and 90% of the users here so I don't rate your contributions in the slightest.



If it helps you go about your day without anxiety, that's your kettle of fish.

There are many other jousting that title with him. Maxindhouse, Oladeegbu are the two I can remember. The epitome of daftness

Aemmyjah:




2. Oga, there is archeological evidence to Abraham and not just any man named Abraham but it supports something he did in the Bible when he bore his former name, Abram. I even showed LordReed, he could not deny it. He simply said that just one archeological evidence is insignificant. So, go and find the evidence for yourself

You don carry my name lie again. Quote my response to that piece of archaeological finding.

BTW where did they find this so called stone with field of Abram written on it?

jaephoenix:

Again point me out to the particular point. I may have missed it

Can you imagine?

Keep clicking on my moniker where I quote you it'll lead you to the point.

jaephoenix:

So you believe I was designed? Okay.
So how come this designer give women babies that would kill them(the women) during the pregnancies? How come he makes babies that would be killers like Hitler, knowing all right that they would kill people including his own people(christians)?

Lol pregnancy is now a bad thing lmfao. How did you exist if not through pregnancy?

Who? Do you know the designer now?

jaephoenix:

No. Then the universe doesn't have to have a designer, any objections?

Tell me the comparison between a creator and what he created?
The universe and life is obviously the handiwork of an intelligent being.

A logical explanation is that the creator started everything. Both what we see and things beyond us. He wasn't created.
If there was a designer of the universe, he must not have been created.

Hear me, even if the designer or creator was created, the chain of creators still have to start from a person.
It can never be an infinite loop.