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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:25am On Nov 08, 2023 |
Maynman: Half learned men like Jaephoenix reject it You dearly embrace it Salutations to Maynman The first and only person zealously advocating that chaos (syn disorder, disarray, confusion, disorganization, mess, shambles) could have brought about order, organization, complexity and everything in the universe. Keep joking around Oops! I seem to have dropped something from the dictionary that may have excited you or added evidence to your doctrine 😁 Maynman, Bishop of Chaos Pls, keep preaching chaos Whether na Chaos or Chance or Creator Choose the letter C that is dear to you Who taught you English that you exchange it for Randomness and unpredictability? Abeg rest Enjoy your day Unleash your monikers to like and share your comments so you'll look smart to yourself |
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 7:28am On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:Why don't you bring another definition for "chaos", illiterate was just regurgitating what his watchtower slave masters taught him, he doesn't even know what "chaos" is. You are the dullard here, do you know how many people has taught you, yet you still remain EMPTY. Even your own definition you brought, you don't understand it. Is chaos not part of the universe? And where did chaos come from? Did the MATTER in chaos come by "chance"? Everyone on here says you lack comprehension and you keep proving it."
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Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 7:31am On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:Better than yours, that your authority and salvation depends on old men 😂😂 It seems you and madmax, don't agree with this or you just pretending 😂
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Re: Does God Exist? by 22jumpstreet1(m): 10:26am On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: yes the message there is not to be greedy.... and always be appreciative.. you see what i mean? you are blind and dumb.. |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:49pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
22jumpstreet1: Greed? In a creation story Ok na 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 1:54pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:1. When you eat food, who digests it and forms feces? When you blink your eye as a foreign body like a fly tries to enter, who did it? When your body does other actions like knee jerk reflexes, extensor reflex etc, who made those actions? When your rectal ampulla is filled with stool and your rectum is forcing the stool out, who is doing that? You or yahweh? Who did all that? Yahweh or you? Please answer 2. What is the name if this nation you described? Please humor me And show me archeological backings of this nation. Thank you |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 1:56pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Yup. Parents create children. I have given ample evidence in this thread alone. Again for the umpteenth time, if you have contrary views, do show me with evidence. |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 1:58pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:Lol. Not just me, science says so. So obviously a cretard(like you) can't be smarter than science |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:05pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
jaephoenix: Why not question what science says? 🤷♂️ Science has not always been accurate tho 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:06pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
jaephoenix: They did not create They create Which one you de? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 2:08pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:Lol ![]() Okay, this is getting interesting ![]() So can you explain how the environment affects human phenotypic and genetic expressions. I'm still listening ![]() ![]() The person liking your comments is even dumber than you. A stack of wet bricks is smarter than y'all |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:08pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
jaephoenix: 1. It was my parents that put my throat and all the organs that regulate eating and digestion They even put bacteria and enzymes that help to break down the food and put the organs at different pH levels... ![]() 2. What nation? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 2:09pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:Irrelevant. Not admissible in the context of the argument |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:12pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
jaephoenix: Olodo ![]() ![]() ![]() Nutrition can affect ones phenotype Pollution and toxins can affect one's phenotype Social interaction can affect ones phenotype You are a fake doctor, you are not even a doctor. Maybe you are a plant doctor or insect doctor but even an insect doctor should not ask these Did you study epigenetics in school? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:13pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
jaephoenix: Your mean your forefathers were all stupid to ignore that nature came by accident? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 2:56pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: 1. Lol. The word “pharaoh” is an Old Egyptian word meaning “Great House,” a reference to the palace where the pharaoh resides. Egyptian rulers are known as Pharaohs just like Yoruba rulers are Obas. It is a title, so which particular pharaoh are you referring to, dummy? Also Semites can be Arabs, Jews or many other tribes in the Middle East, so what exactly do you want me to research on? 2. Kindly provide the archeological evidence. And please don't send me to go fetch it. You brought the claim, so look up the evidence yourself 3. The Egyptian historians were Herodotus, Strabo, Diodorus Siculus and they were geographers, not priests. And they were Greeks, not Egyptians. And thus not influenced by any Egyptians. Besides, if you say they were biased, what was your evidence? None. Also have you asked yourself why no history book incorporates the bible stories? 4. Funny enough, the bible was written by the Romans, not the Jews ![]() Its unfortunate you have resorted to dishonesty to explain away your bible lies. This is what King James Version said of the passage Mat 27:51 to 53- And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose. And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many It is clearly written in black and white that the saints rose up from the dead after the earthquake that happened, and went to the city. Where did you see eye witness in this verse or passage? Why lie so much to defend the undefendable? You think I'm one of the gullible fooools you associate with? |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 3:00pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:They believed it was from the gods, not by accident. You think you're being smart but actually youre getting more stupid by the day 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 3:08pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
jaephoenix: Understand first before you read Your fathers accepted that everything came from God or the gods You disagree. Who is stupid? You or them? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 3:15pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
cornelboy:Logic goes against religion, just so you know ![]() |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 3:26pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
jaephoenix: 1. If you like, close your eyes to reality. As if every events is recorded in history. If you like, call it Arabs. In the past, Bible critics said certain people never existed cos there were no extra biblical references to them. An interesting example was David and Belshazzar. Even Pilate was said to not have existed. Archeological evidence gives proof to their existence. If you like, stand in the view of a critic, you have nothing meaningful to offer 2. Oga, there is archeological evidence to Abraham and not just any man named Abraham but it supports something he did in the Bible when he bore his former name, Abram. I even showed LordReed, he could not deny it. He simply said that just one archeological evidence is insignificant. So, go and find the evidence for yourself 3. Date to the timing of the exodus. Now, the historians during the period and those supervising and the custodians of the writings were Egyptian Scribes and priests. Yes or No? 4. Some call it as written by Roman's, some say Europeans. Even Africans are beginning to claim it. The account of the New Testament talks mentions almost nothing about the Roman's and their dealings. The Romans created the character, Jesus and began to persecute those that accepted their writings shey? 🤣 These days, Scholars have come to discover that king James is actually an inaccurate translation of the Bible with several additions and extortions that are not ij the original manuscripts. You know this but your mad zeal to criticize the Bible moves you to pick a poor translation. Are you not even unreasonable? You don't accept a book or it's authorship yet you want to quote from it to support or criticize a claim or event? Again, it was not supporting that people were resurrected. There was a strong earthquake that split rocks and removed bodies from graves. Witnesses saw this and went into the city, evidently to share what happened. Keep fooling around 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 3:32pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
cornelboy: 1. What scientific myths are you talking about? Be specific. Evolution is backed by science 100%. There are evolutional biologists and scientists. 2. All scientists must not believe in evolution(especially the religious ones even though they don't have the evidence to counter it) but science itself backs evolution up, to the hilt. There are many evidences which I have provided here. You can read up yourself (which I think you won't). So no, evolution isn't a theory. I repeat, evolution isn't a theory. Big Bang is a theory, and not related to evolution. Its unfortunate you and Aemmyjah don't know diddly squat about evolution but have been arguing for days about a topic you have no idea about. 3. Logic is the study of correct reasoning, including both formal and informal logic. Formal logic is the science of deductively valid inferences or logical truths. Logic bases on premises of facts, and facts are based on verifiable data. Evolution can be verified via genetics, embryology, history, archeology, paleontology etc. We evolved from the Great Apes cos research of fossils gives us the data. These data can be verified today, tomorrow, 50 years etc. It can be verified by anyone, anywhere. Religion is not based on logic. It is based on faith, the very opposite of logic. The bible even blesses those that believe without seeing. The bible creation stories cannot be verified or accounted for, so how can it be facts? How can you believe a god popped outta thin air, created the earth, made man from mud and then woman from the man's rib. Are these verifiable? No. So how can they be factual? You only believe it cos a certain book says so. Would you believe the Muslim creation story too since their own book says so? Would also believe thousands of other creation stories which were stated in books? If I believe your own version, why shouldn't I believe the Muslim version, or the Hindu, Aztec, Greek, Egyptian, Mayan etc versions which were all recorded on their own holy books? |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 3:35pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
cornelboy:If you say the creator has been existing since eternity, then why can't humans and the universe exist since eternity? No need to ask you for evidence of the bolded, cos you won't provide such. |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 3:36pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
jaephoenix: 1. Abiogenesis has been dead since Louis Pasteur killed it. But why do you people still teach it as the basis of the origin of life. Life can never come from non-living matter. Who then is the ultimate source of life? Big bang is not a theory. Na wetin? Na person name? Which theory then supports evolution? 2. I need hyperfaith to believe that everything emerge from nothing. Is that what is logical to you? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 3:36pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
cornelboy:No. Then the universe doesn't have to have a designer, any objections? |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 3:38pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
jaephoenix: The universe then is an effect to it's own Cause. True or false? See who is shouting logic Your house doesn't need to have a builder then 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 3:42pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
cornelboy:So you believe I was designed? Okay. So how come this designer give women babies that would kill them(the women) during the pregnancies? How come he makes babies that would be killers like Hitler, knowing all right that they would kill people including his own people(christians)? |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 3:45pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Emusan:Again point me out to the particular point. I may have missed it |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 3:47pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Thorrn:There are many other jousting that title with him. Maxindhouse, Oladeegbu are the two I can remember. The epitome of daftness 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed(m): 3:49pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: You don carry my name lie again. Quote my response to that piece of archaeological finding. BTW where did they find this so called stone with field of Abram written on it? |
Re: Does God Exist? by Emusan(m): 4:03pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
jaephoenix: Can you imagine? Keep clicking on my moniker where I quote you it'll lead you to the point. |
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 4:33pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
jaephoenix:Lol pregnancy is now a bad thing lmfao. How did you exist if not through pregnancy? Who? Do you know the designer now? |
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 4:41pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
jaephoenix:Tell me the comparison between a creator and what he created? The universe and life is obviously the handiwork of an intelligent being. A logical explanation is that the creator started everything. Both what we see and things beyond us. He wasn't created. If there was a designer of the universe, he must not have been created. Hear me, even if the designer or creator was created, the chain of creators still have to start from a person. It can never be an infinite loop. |
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