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Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 4:42pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
jaephoenix:You now sound like maynman lol π |
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 4:43pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
jaephoenix:You own logic and science taught you that humans evolved the thumbs abi? Oya prove it here ![]() ![]() |
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 4:50pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
jaephoenix:Na lie ogbeni. I don't have to be religious or non religious before I know that the universe couldn't have come by chance. All it takes is a working brain. |
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 5:48pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:ππππ |
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 6:18pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
cornelboy:In your mind, I am sure this designer has a hand and a mind that he uses for thinking π |
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 6:21pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Maynman:A robot has a liver and a kidney π |
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 6:49pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
cornelboy:No wonder they discouraged you guys not to get educated. |
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 7:12pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Maynman:Lol I used the same logic you used on me on you and you exploded hahaha π€£π€£ You are obviously the illiterate here |
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 8:02pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
cornelboy:You need to be able to think so as to understand a logic before using it. "In your mind, I am sure this designer has a hand and a mind that he uses for thinking" "A robot has a liver and a kidney" What's the correlation? Watchtower illiterate π |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 8:17pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
LordReed: Sorry for lying against you They found it in my dog's cage Even when you see evidence, you ask stupid questions Maybe you'll ask me the name of the person that found the stone 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed(m): 8:57pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: LoLz. You must always turn into a rabid dog when asked to produce evidence. Which evidence did you produce that I saw you shameless liar? Yes what is the name of the person that found the stone you miserable liar. |
Re: Does God Exist? by Thorrn(f): 9:00pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Sure, because you've not been insisting since the thread began that the universe was designed by some form of cosmic intelligence. Spare me the cheap lies ![]() I asked a question and presented points to give answer to any conclusions Let's not even pretend your goal was to reach "any conclusions" (whatever that means). Your approach to this discussion so far shows that your mind is already made up on God's existence, else you'd have critically examined my objections to your "answers" instead of cowardly handwaving them aside and pretending they weren't tendered. Why not do same I already told you my position on this topic: I don't know, and I don't claim to know. I also don't believe that you truly know either. We can't know for a 100% certainty how life or the universe came into existence. Science however has tried to proffer possible answers to those questions through the Big Bang and Evolution concepts. Unfortunately for you, the fact that you don't accept them as truth because of what your religion taught you doesn't automatically translate to your Jewish deity being the only answer to the source of life. I've demonstrated the reason why already. This is not rocket science. Someone should remind Thorn that his philosophy leaves him with a meaningless and purposeless life Of all the rickety tools in the apologists' arsenal, you had to pull out the weakest and most ineffective rhetoric of atheists leading meaningless lives. I have to say it's never a good look on you when people like D-truthspeaker can sound more coherent and intelligible than you in a discussion. I mean this is your own thread, at least put in some effort. You're going out sad here. The fact that you truly believe that life would be meaningless if God didn't exist just makes me feel pity for you. Believe it or not, life has whatever meaning you want to give it. Do you mean to tell me that the only thing that motivates you to get up in the morning is your God? Nothing else inspires your energy and dedication? Not even your family? I am not upset Whatever you say. You attacked me No, I attacked your fallacious arguments. You judged me Yes, I have judged you to be a dimwit and an idiot based on your statements and general attitude towards this debate. Someone said you did not present points That "someone" is well known on this forum for being biased and prejudiced against atheists. I wouldn't rate any assessment from such individuals. I highlighted my points and explained them And I pointed out that the premis on which you based those points was inherently problematic. Lemme ask you, your beliefs as an atheist leaves your life without meaning and purpose? Yes or No Sadly, no. Here, read it and weep: Pew Research: Where do atheists find meaning in life? Like a majority of Americans, most atheists mentioned βfamilyβ as a source of meaning when Pew Research Center asked an open-ended question about this in a 2017 survey. But atheists were far more likely than Christians to describe hobbies as meaningful or satisfying (26% vs. 10%). Atheists also were more likely than Americans overall to describe finances and money, creative pursuits, travel, and leisure activities as meaningful. Not surprisingly, very few U.S. atheists (4%) said they found lifeβs meaning in spirituality. Finally, atheism is not a belief. And it's "she", not "he". 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by Thorrn(f): 9:04pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Well, if it's "some" and not "all", then you should be careful trying to insist that your beliefs are universal fact. I did not drop it for anyone's Acknowledgement Says the guy who started a public thread to prove the existence of his favorite sky fairy. Here's a little secret for you, child. Do you want to know the real reason you created this topic? It's because you are actually seeking to validate and/or reinforce your beliefs. Nobody compelled you to start this topic. You started it because you want people to consider your position as justified by your Bible, else you'd keep it to yourself. Atleast, it is part of my convictions. Congratulations. Hats off to you. I can drop 10 points And they could all be wrong, which would be as good as you just saving everyone the trouble, including yourself, and dropping nothing at all. What of you? Moi? You dropped nothing but nonsense that makes sense to your feeble thinking I didn't drop anything at all because my position doesn't require me to do so. I'm not the one with the burden of proof here. YOU are. You made the claims, so you must prove them. My only job here is to call out bullshit when I see it. If your logic is solid, then I support it. Simples. Who are you to judge me? Someone who values facts and objectivity. Someone with a desire for establishing truth and dismantling baseless fiction. Besides, people like you that don't accept the existence of the Creator, it leaves you without reliable guidance and shows your life is meaningless and hopeless and purposeless . If your life is by accident, your existence has no purpose It's the second time in a row that you're spouting this rhetoric, and it is as boring as it is asinine. The only person whose existence lacks any inherent value is the poor sod who can't envision a life without an imaginary friend. If this is the new angle you're going to take as pertaining to this discussion, then it only indicates that you've run out of any ammo needed to sustain your initial position. You're out of your depth in your own thread. How sad. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by Thorrn(f): 9:05pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: The "extra-biblical evidence" you're alluding to here is the Teleological Argument (argument by design), and I've already addressed it so many times that I can't be arsed to go through it again until someone finally puts on his big boy pants and offers an actual counter to my rebuttals. I concede! No worries there. The fact that you've readily admitted your error here has given me hope that you're willing to be more open and honest in this discussion instead of just shutting down everything I say. Your argument The key element here is intention. Whenever I engage in this discussions, I'm doing so to arrive at or establish a consensus on facts. In my first or second post on this thread, I made it known that although I had my suspicion on the kind of person he was in debates, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and defend his position. It was only after my suspicion was confirmed that I called him out on his poor reasoning skills. I don't suffer fools gladly so I'm always going to seem harsh when I'm conversing with people who clearly don't respect the simple rules of discourse. If you maintain honesty and integrity in any discussion, I won't have your hide. It's as simple as that. And despite the tone or attitude of my co-discussant, I would still take my time to address the core issue of his/her argument without hinging its inherent validity on his/her cognitive strength. I have not seen your own counter to my position on this thread. Just in case I missed it, spell it out and I'll do my best to address it. |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 9:07pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Thorrn: You have not presented any concise points If you like, drop a millions words and keep blowing hot like a mad Bison 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 9:08pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
LordReed: Even if i told you the name of the person, you'll ask me of the address Bwahahahahaha ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 9:13pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Maynman:Lol if you cannot see the correlation I'm not surprised ![]() ![]() |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 9:24pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Thorrn: Too much Grammer without presenting anything to counter the OP claim 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 9:26pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Thorrn: Spirituality is universal in every nation, language groups,... Not all are atheists either Keep fooling 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 9:27pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
cornelboy:Yes you should not be, if you are educated you will. |
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 9:27pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Maynman:Lol okay |
Re: Does God Exist? by Thorrn(f): 9:34pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Ah well, if mindlessly repeating lies to yourself will make you feel better about your lack of intellectual substance, then knock yourself out ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by Thorrn(f): 9:36pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: You missed the point.... ... But then again, you've demonstrated time and time again that you lack the capacity for understanding anything at all ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by Thorrn(f): 9:39pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Highlighting the fact that I write better English than you is not an insult my dear ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 9:43pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
cornelboy:"In your mind, I am sure this designer has a hand and a mind that he uses for thinking" "A robot has a liver and a kidney" Only you can see the correlation π |
Re: Does God Exist? by kimco(m): 9:47pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Even then there is evidence of the builder. Either through photos them being alive, or at the very least their fossils. We cannot say same for a God. You believe, yes. You know, No you don't. Otherwise provide evidence. Claims do not count. Cause and effect. |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 9:48pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Thorrn: Writing better English is not the problem A better English writer that is very poor with debates Attacking the person and judging him Is that not evidence of madness? ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 9:48pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Maynman:Hahaha you no go go sleep? ![]() ![]() The creature doesn't have to be like the creator, that's my point. Does a robot have a kidney or a liver like it designer? Hope you've learned something today π€£π€£ |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 9:49pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Thorrn: Ok sir Since it's logical to you that everything came from nothing Lemme leave you 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 9:52pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
Thorrn: To keep reminding you that with all your wailings Drop atleast one evidence ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 9:55pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
cornelboy: You mind him We have printing machines and other machines that produce or duplicate things... Are humans like printers too? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 9:56pm On Nov 08, 2023 |
kimco: You must see something to believe it exists or existed. Yes or No? |
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