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Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by Druss(m): 10:38am On Nov 09, 2023
He should be taken to court for the physical assault. Wrong behaviour by lecturer. Problem in Nigeria is we see university students as kids and treat them accordingly.
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by VEHINTOLAR: 10:41am On Nov 09, 2023
erico2k2:

And the money she will get from suing the school might be enough to complete her education in a private University!

Ok
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by Mom007(f): 10:41am On Nov 09, 2023
ILoveFaith:
He should be dismissed and jailed immediately.
That’s how they abusive every small privilege.
Why? Is he not old enough to be her grandfather? And why does she think it's her right to enter his lecture hall with her phone switched on? Why didn't she leave if she couldn't obey the directive? Some of these people are just agents of the devil to push peoples backs up against the wall and then you make videos and complain when they react. Foolish generation that thinks they are smart yet they don't know more than hookup and scam! undecided
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by SAMBARRY: 10:44am On Nov 09, 2023
stuffs2002:


Two things will happen to the lecturer..
1. He will be dismissed
2. He will go to jail for asult.
yinmu.just dey Play grin

In the same OAU Ife or another OAU?
Are you referring to Oba Awon university.if you check their anthem it says FOR LEARNING AND CULTURE,SPORTS AND STRUGGLE, GREAT IFE,I LOVE YOU, THERE'S ONLY ONE GREAT IFE IN THE UNIVERSE, ANOTHER GREAT IFE IS A COUNTERFEIT, GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT (any alumni of OAU can relate to this anthem) forget it OAU is big on respect.the university culture is operated exactly like the Yoruba culture

OAU that I know don't joke with respect for elders.theyre still very much traditional and conservative.them no dey follow Una do woke philosophy.the one you dey talk about fit happen for Bowen, covenant or Ajayi crowther.it can never happen in OAU.lets leave that aside.

Many of these old professors you see still carry the old mentality of parenting and teaching.them no dey follow Una do wokism and they're equally grandparents.many of them have children and ex students as politicians, senators, and people in high places of power so the fact that they act simple and unassuming e no mean say them no fit treat your f*k up when necessary

However I've noticed something with these Lousy Gen z's.they always assume anyone who is quiet is stup1d and can be disrespected.they Often mistake gentleness for stupidity till they collect.

Lastly it's a sign of childishness for a person to flout classroom rules or university rules and then when he's called to order starts acting recalcitrant and when she collects, she begins to play Victim
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by Mom007(f): 10:45am On Nov 09, 2023
Druss:
He should be taken to court for the physical assault. Wrong behaviour by lecturer. Problem in Nigeria is we see university students as kids and treat them accordingly.
Are they not kids? Look at both of them, is she not young enough to be his grandchild? Is that not an unruly behaviour she displayed? How many hours is the class that she could not comply with a simple directive? Respect they say is reciprocal. She got the disrespect she dished out.
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by PrinceGallant: 10:49am On Nov 09, 2023
She deserves more, I mean rustication
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by SAMBARRY: 10:49am On Nov 09, 2023
Mom007:

Are they not kids? Look at both of them, is she not young enough to be his grandchild? Is that not an unruly behaviour she displayed? How many hours is the class that she could not comply with a simple directive? Respect they say is reciprocal. She got the disrespect she dished out.
lmaooo the undergraduates don't want to be seen as kids but Still act very much like kiddies cheesy grin

It's still a sign of childishness for a person to flout the classroom rules and still be playing victim

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Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by SAMBARRY: 11:00am On Nov 09, 2023
Druss:
He should be taken to court for the physical assault. Wrong behaviour by lecturer. Problem in Nigeria is we see university students as kids and treat them accordingly.
lol another gen z grin

First of all are new generation undergraduate students not kids? Even their behaviour gives them out as kids

Have you seen the ages of students being admitted into the university I mean both public and private.

You will see 14,16,17 in 100 level.many of them are Still teenagers and graduate 19,20,21.it was never so before.if you are not 18 you can't be admitted no matter how intelligent you were and in some universities,21 was the maximum age for admission and by the time you even do jamb at least 4 times you'll have been over and above 22 with some sense of rationality, maturity and sense of responsibility.

You know the wahala you went through to get admitted.now there are options for new generation students getting admitted.you Can fail jamb and still do other things to get admitted or go to private university,in our time there were no private universities and even when they started cropping up we had already finished our degree and NYSC and they were mainly for the children of the big elites.

Now your parents go to school to check on you,it's now I heard lecturers beg students to come for lectures especially in private university.lol.those days no lecturer gave a f**k about you,they expected that you will be sensible enough to come to class and behave yourself
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by Revolva(m): 11:19am On Nov 09, 2023
ILoveFaith:
He should be dismissed and jailed immediately.
That’s how they abusive every small privilege.

If thats is how you will raise ur own kid to be stubborn and why should anyone put on a phone during lectures

If i were the lecturer i will take can and flog her
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by Aaaaarghmed(m): 11:24am On Nov 09, 2023
He is a fool.the highest you can do Is send her out of the class.mumu
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by jeff1607(m): 11:26am On Nov 09, 2023
Gbadebo01:
this is what you don't get. The context here is different. I own my phone, you would not beat me because I chose not to turn off my phone. Unless you tell where it is in the constitution of the school that a lecturer can slap a student because they didn't turn off their phones. There are no grounds for that lecturer to have hit the student.

For better context, you are on a plane and they tell you to put your phone on airplane mode or switch it off and you do not do it. They'd calmly tell you to put the phone off or on airplane mode and if you don't, they will escort you off the plane. That's in a sane society.


I have attached the screenshot of what purportedly happened and judge for yourself.


Hope you know even in planes, a defaulting individual is forcefully taken down when they refuse adhering to instructions, no refund is done too
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by Image123(m): 11:28am On Nov 09, 2023
Paramount01:




Deduct mark? What will be is justification

Poor behaviour, disruptive behaviour, class assessment, etc. Proper behaviour and adherence to lecture and school rules are part of grading. Some people have been saved from failure by good behaviour and other non "academic" factors. It's two-way.

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Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by 29Ade07: 11:30am On Nov 09, 2023
Well we are in the last days. I want to ask, has she come to learn or recieve calls.? Simple commonsense tells us that this will not only distract her from the purpose of the class but others as well.
Suppose she is to undergo a life-saving surgery for 10 hours? Will she be carrying her phone around? Why can' t she be disciplined for just 1 or 2 hours?
If she ends up as CEO of major bank, will she be answering calls during major boardroom meeting.
In the western world, you don't take phone to work no matter how lowly placed your work is. Also student in higher institution as far as I know don't disturb the class with phone calls. If the call is so urgent, put your om silence and quietly exit the class when you need to answer the call.
epainos:
Nigeria is an abnormal society. Read comments of m.ad people like the man above justifying his action. There are other ways of disciplining the girl, but the useless man as usual wanted to prove he is older than the girl. It is the right of the girl to defend herself from him. What about sending her out of the class. And if she doesnt walk out, he walks out and then take the right action. But he chose to force his will by laying his hands on the girl. And mum.u above just like the man are supporting the act. This is why they go to jail abroad. See eh...Nigeria is an abnormal society. This is why I dont regard anyone above 60. They are useless. Why? Na dem spoil Naija. Na dem holy pass...na dem sabi all...na dem want respect pass....but with the present state of Nigeria and with all the goodies available to them before and after independence. .look at where Nigeria is. Yet, they are still demanding respect. That generation is so manipulative. They use everything tovforce their will on people. If their useless words doesnt make sense, the next is to abuse the person by laying their hands on the victim. They dont mind using religious books to brain wash people. This generation ma.d oooò grin The portion they know in the Bible is honor your parents so your days may be long..if you quote parents, respect and love your children...they go go wild ni. Very selfish generation. They destroyed Nigeria. I pray the parents of the girl are well doing so they can treat the mess up of that useless ma d man. Just imagine...becos he thinks he is the alpha and omega in the class...he does not recognise the girl as an adult. Simple...use your authority and send her out of the class. Period. I know many lecturers who stepped aside until the kids walked out. Na the kids begged later because they kept sending the kids out of the class. Simple as ABC. That is the authority this man has. And it ends there. If the kid is useless and does not want to learn, it is automatic F. Period. But laying hands on the girl (an adult), this man needs to go to jail. But it is Naija na where abnormal people like those who have made comments above live. grin Werey plenty in naija grin
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by Sajio(m): 11:32am On Nov 09, 2023
What's wrong with the lecturer allowing her put the phone on silent. The phone is hers and she's got right to that... Lecturer worry alot jor. Supposing she's expecting an important call nkor? She has paid her fees and all. To me, the lecturer went too far.
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by Appadorai(m): 11:32am On Nov 09, 2023
The Girl is stupid
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by Image123(m): 11:33am On Nov 09, 2023
SAMBARRY:
lmaooo the undergraduates don't want to be seen as kids but Still act very much like kiddies cheesy grin

It's still a sign of childishness for a person to flout the classroom rules and still be playing victim

The lecturer was immature also. He should know better than hitting or punching a student in 2023. Times HAVE changed.
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by Aaaaarghmed(m): 11:39am On Nov 09, 2023
Image123:


The lecturer was immature also. He should know better than hitting or punching a student in 2023. Times HAVE changed.
I tire.you dont assault people anymore. He shud have sent her out of the class.this man no fit teach abroad.dem go sack am instantly.
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by badoh(m): 11:51am On Nov 09, 2023
epainos:
Nigeria is an abnormal society. Read comments of m.ad people like the man above justifying his action. There are other ways of disciplining the girl, but the useless man as usual wanted to prove he is older than the girl. It is the right of the girl to defend herself from him. What about sending her out of the class. And if she doesnt walk out, he walks out and then take the right action. But he chose to force his will by laying his hands on the girl. And mum.u above just like the man are supporting the act. This is why they go to jail abroad. See eh...Nigeria is an abnormal society. This is why I dont regard anyone above 60. They are useless. Why? Na dem spoil Naija. Na dem holy pass...na dem sabi all...na dem want respect pass....but with the present state of Nigeria and with all the goodies available to them before and after independence. .look at where Nigeria is. Yet, they are still demanding respect. That generation is so manipulative. They use everything tovforce their will on people. If their useless words doesnt make sense, the next is to abuse the person by laying their hands on the victim. They dont mind using religious books to brain wash people. This generation ma.d oooò grin The portion they know in the Bible is honor your parents so your days may be long..if you quote parents, respect and love your children...they go go wild ni. Very selfish generation. They destroyed Nigeria. I pray the parents of the girl are well doing so they can treat the mess up of that useless ma d man. Just imagine...becos he thinks he is the alpha and omega in the class...he does not recognise the girl as an adult. Simple...use your authority and send her out of the class. Period. I know many lecturers who stepped aside until the kids walked out. Na the kids begged later because they kept sending the kids out of the class. Simple as ABC. That is the authority this man has. And it ends there. If the kid is useless and does not want to learn, it is automatic F. Period. But laying hands on the girl (an adult), this man needs to go to jail. But it is Naija na where abnormal people like those who have made comments above live. grin Werey plenty in naija grin
Oga, the moral decadence in Abroad is alarming. All in an attempt to guarantee child right, they spoil their children and you find it difficult to castigate them when they go wayward. You see kids disturbing the class, kids smoking and committing atrocities and you dare not challenge them. The one that pain me most in their law is you can't challenge or confront shop lifters( a stranger coming in to your supermarket to steal), imagine the audacity, can such happen in Nigeria without the thief getting the beating of his life. See, Naija is still far better compared to most of these advanced nations when it comes to Moral decadence.
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by LordIsaac(m): 11:51am On Nov 09, 2023
I just pity this Genz!
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by pendragonbladgo(m): 11:55am On Nov 09, 2023
Image123:


Thank God it's not the National Assembly but a Federal University. In a Federal University, you are allowed to have a phone and use a phone. It's up to the lecturer to set up his class rules and manage his students like a human being. A lecturer has NO right to punch or assault a student. If the right people take it up, he will lose his job and can even go to jail. He was caught on camera.
If you don't want phones in your class, expelling or punching the student is not the next option. You can ask the student to leave the class, you can deduct marks. In Nigeria, the lecturer may even influence more serious/wicked things like failing the students or frustrating the students. Expel or physical assault is a tall order.
So why is it hard for students especially female students to obey simple instruction. Go to versities, check the code of conduct books giving to students especially in dressing aspect and check the female students then come back here and tell me what you think about this generation student in terms of decipline...
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by OvertheTop(m): 12:02pm On Nov 09, 2023
Raskimonojendor:
The lecture hall doesn't look familiar. Kids these days are very bold. In the early 2000s, she go just manager like 2 extra years. Times have changed.

looks like one of those BOOA lecture classes
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by Femston: 12:06pm On Nov 09, 2023
epainos:
Nigeria is an abnormal society. Read comments of m.ad people like the man above justifying his action. There are other ways of disciplining the girl, but the useless man as usual wanted to prove he is older than the girl. It is the right of the girl to defend herself from him. What about sending her out of the class. And if she doesnt walk out, he walks out and then take the right action. But he chose to force his will by laying his hands on the girl. And mum.u above just like the man are supporting the act. This is why they go to jail abroad. See eh...Nigeria is an abnormal society. This is why I dont regard anyone above 60. They are useless. Why? Na dem spoil Naija. Na dem holy pass...na dem sabi all...na dem want respect pass....but with the present state of Nigeria and with all the goodies available to them before and after independence. .look at where Nigeria is. Yet, they are still demanding respect. That generation is so manipulative. They use everything tovforce their will on people. If their useless words doesnt make sense, the next is to abuse the person by laying their hands on the victim. They dont mind using religious books to brain wash people. This generation ma.d oooò grin The portion they know in the Bible is honor your parents so your days may be long..if you quote parents, respect and love your children...they go go wild ni. Very selfish generation. They destroyed Nigeria. I pray the parents of the girl are well doing so they can treat the mess up of that useless ma d man. Just imagine...becos he thinks he is the alpha and omega in the class...he does not recognise the girl as an adult. Simple...use your authority and send her out of the class. Period. I know many lecturers who stepped aside until the kids walked out. Na the kids begged later because they kept sending the kids out of the class. Simple as ABC. That is the authority this man has. And it ends there. If the kid is useless and does not want to learn, it is automatic F. Period. But laying hands on the girl (an adult), this man needs to go to jail. But it is Naija na where abnormal people like those who have made comments above live. grin Werey plenty in naija grin

You wrote long rubbish and still makes no sense.
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by Olamusty289: 12:21pm On Nov 09, 2023
I no go force you off your phone, I swear you go fail my course like 7 times, 4 normal years 3 extra. Sho lo mad ni
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by aremubabs: 12:28pm On Nov 09, 2023
epainos:


Werey dey disguise. Your politician that are in their 60s that I talked about...so na these modern days training dem get. Werey...so..person like those senators who are parents now that are embezzling money get training well...right. dey disguise. Foo.lish old people like you always manulipulate people. You dont take NO for an answer. Na by force dem go bench you all. Very manipulative generation. Na dem na. Dem go stay in public office even when it is obvious they are not well. Na dem train yahoo yahoo kids ooo....meanwhile...kids abroad no be yahoo yahoo. Nothing they wont try to defend their manipulative ways. grin

Kids abroad are far better than useless kids you are training here.



What nonsense are you jabbering?




Don't politicians embezzle money all over the world?
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by Image123(m): 12:39pm On Nov 09, 2023
pendragonbladgo:

So why is it hard for students especially female students to obey simple instruction. Go to versities, check the code of conduct books giving to students especially in dressing aspect and check the female students then come back here and tell me what you think about this generation student in terms of decipline...

Two wrongs don't make a right. BTW, the said student is even male not female.

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Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by lawrenzooo: 12:59pm On Nov 09, 2023
epainos:


Dont worry...the jail is awaiting you. Just travel abroad and act this way....then, narrate the trash here again. They will treat your f.uck up appropriately. I assure you.

If she doesn't leave, so you can't take her details, continue the lecture, and take action after class with the authority? Oga, you are speaking in tongues. Please, go lay hands on kids abroad.

Well we are not abroad, we are in Nigeria. Unfortunately not everyone wants to travel abroad.

And unfortunately the lecturer would also not be going to jail because we are not abroad.

It's stupidity on your part to want to apply Abroad rules in Nigeria.
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by lawrenzooo: 1:02pm On Nov 09, 2023
TotoIsGud4boy:

It’s not flawed, he could’ve simply walked her out the class.. but you’re lame I know you won’t understand simple logic.. if you’re a lecturer hit my child, I’ll just send people to off you

Of all the people that have beaten your child, how many have you offed? To slap you dey hungry me.
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by TotoIsGud4boy: 1:13pm On Nov 09, 2023
lawrenzooo:


Of all the people that have beaten your child, how many have you offed? To slap you dey hungry me.
Stupid peasant like you hiding behind nairaland to say bullchit…
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by GambaOsaka: 1:18pm On Nov 09, 2023
Westerhoffe:
A generation that lost it all…

Honestly, how children of nowadays are raised is very disappointing.
During my time, you dare not talk back at an adult. You dare not even raise your head to look them in the eye when they're talking. And when they ask you to do anything, you comply before asking questions.

But these days, you'd see a toddler forming no nonsense guy/girl.
It's very degrading that some youths would be threatening to beat up an elderly…

Moral decadence.

What are you saying?
It’s her phone , she has the right to do anything she likes with it.
The man can send her out of the class instead.
He should be jailed and made an example to others.
These lecturers that form Jackie Chan in naija, when they travel abroad for conferences and seminars, they are humble.
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by GambaOsaka: 1:35pm On Nov 09, 2023
Aareakinwunmi:
I support the lecturer on this.



You can't be disrespectful to lecturers, OAU is for learning and culture.
A grown man raising his hand and hitting another person’s daughter. He should be jailed for at least 5 years. He could have sensibly sent her out of the class. He is just a proud , frustrated and miserable man who is transferring aggression to the poor girl.
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by Bornboy4: 1:55pm On Nov 09, 2023
You are part of a generation that needs salvation. Your morals are deformed. Your likes need psychological evaluation to determine whether you can live with normal people.
epainos:
Nigeria is an abnormal society. Read comments of m.ad people like the man above justifying his action. There are other ways of disciplining the girl, but the useless man as usual wanted to prove he is older than the girl. It is the right of the girl to defend herself from him. What about sending her out of the class. And if she doesnt walk out, he walks out and then take the right action. But he chose to force his will by laying his hands on the girl. And mum.u above just like the man are supporting the act. This is why they go to jail abroad. See eh...Nigeria is an abnormal society. This is why I dont regard anyone above 60. They are useless. Why? Na dem spoil Naija. Na dem holy pass...na dem sabi all...na dem want respect pass....but with the present state of Nigeria and with all the goodies available to them before and after independence. .look at where Nigeria is. Yet, they are still demanding respect. That generation is so manipulative. They use everything tovforce their will on people. If their useless words doesnt make sense, the next is to abuse the person by laying their hands on the victim. They dont mind using religious books to brain wash people. This generation ma.d oooò grin The portion they know in the Bible is honor your parents so your days may be long..if you quote parents, respect and love your children...they go go wild ni. Very selfish generation. They destroyed Nigeria. I pray the parents of the girl are well doing so they can treat the mess up of that useless ma d man. Just imagine...becos he thinks he is the alpha and omega in the class...he does not recognise the girl as an adult. Simple...use your authority and send her out of the class. Period. I know many lecturers who stepped aside until the kids walked out. Na the kids begged later because they kept sending the kids out of the class. Simple as ABC. That is the authority this man has. And it ends there. If the kid is useless and does not want to learn, it is automatic F. Period. But laying hands on the girl (an adult), this man needs to go to jail. But it is Naija na where abnormal people like those who have made comments above live. grin Werey plenty in naija grin
Re: OAU Lecturer Assault Student For Refusing To Switch Off Her Phone While In Class by ojuolu(m): 2:33pm On Nov 09, 2023
epainos:
Nigeria is an abnormal society. Read comments of m.ad people like the man above justifying his action. There are other ways of disciplining the girl, but the useless man as usual wanted to prove he is older than the girl. It is the right of the girl to defend herself from him. What about sending her out of the class. And if she doesnt walk out, he walks out and then take the right action. But he chose to force his will by laying his hands on the girl. And mum.u above just like the man are supporting the act. This is why they go to jail abroad. See eh...Nigeria is an abnormal society. This is why I dont regard anyone above 60. They are useless. Why? Na dem spoil Naija. Na dem holy pass...na dem sabi all...na dem want respect pass....but with the present state of Nigeria and with all the goodies available to them before and after independence. .look at where Nigeria is. Yet, they are still demanding respect. That generation is so manipulative. They use everything tovforce their will on people. If their useless words doesnt make sense, the next is to abuse the person by laying their hands on the victim. They dont mind using religious books to brain wash people. This generation ma.d oooò grin The portion they know in the Bible is honor your parents so your days may be long..if you quote parents, respect and love your children...dem go just go wild ni. Very selfish generation. They destroyed Nigeria. I pray the parents of the girl are well doing so they can treat the mess up of that useless ma d man. Just imagine...becos he thinks he is the alpha and omega in the class...he does not recognise the girl as an adult. Simple...use your authority and send her out of the class. Period. I know many lecturers who stepped aside until the kids walked out. Na the kids begged later because they kept sending the kids out of the class. Simple as ABC. That is the authority this man has. And it ends there. If the kid is useless and does not want to learn, it is automatic F. Period. But laying hands on the girl (an adult), this man needs to go to jail. But it is Naija na where abnormal people like those who have made comments above live. grin Werey plenty in naija grin

If you think critically, you will retract what you posted.
1: OAU is for learning and culture
2. The student have no right to distract the lecturer class with her phone.
3. The lecturer is the service provider and represents the school authorities at that instance so he is correct to assume the Alpha and omega of the class...he is leading a learning process.
4. It won't make sense if because of a single individual, the lecturer walked out of the class
5. Culture is culture. When an elder instruct, if it looks rational, you are suppose to obey first, most especially in a learning environment.
6. Fortunately, there is a video of what transpired. The man did not use enough brute force to warrant him being found guilty of assault. If the lady believe otherwise, let her press charges....
This generation has lost it all...no sense of reasoning, no moral, no ethics....were plenty among Una.

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