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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 11:12am On Nov 09, 2023
LordReed:


Then speak about my comments instead of lying.
Same thing you said earlier until I dropped a screenshot cheesy

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Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed(m): 11:51am On Nov 09, 2023
Aemmyjah:

Same thing you said earlier until I dropped a screenshot cheesy

You have not addressed that comment in the screenshot, you have rather been lying about what I said. Nor have you provided evidence of the so called stone.

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:12pm On Nov 09, 2023
LordReed:


You have not addressed that comment in the screenshot, you have rather been lying about what I said. Nor have you provided evidence of the so called stone.


What did you say in that screenshot?
Repeat it na cheesy

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Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed(m): 12:24pm On Nov 09, 2023
Aemmyjah:



What did you say in that screenshot?
Repeat it na cheesy

Why should I repeat it? You've gone blind?
Re: Does God Exist? by Thorrn(f): 12:24pm On Nov 09, 2023
Aemmyjah:



If you like, listen to the orchestra of dead animals
You are yet to counter my posts
And that makes you a big fool

Aemmyjah:



Intellectual Giant
You are yet to counter my posts
Keep ranting

You can continue repeating yourself until you are blue in the face. Meanwhile, here's a bullet point summary of our correspondence so far:

1. You claimed that the Bible answers the question: "Does God exist?"
>>> I pointed out that the Bible does not qualify as sufficient proof because it commits the circular reasoning fallacy called "begging the question". I gave examples using the Iliad and Odyssey as poor proofs of the existence of Greek deities. You gave no response.

2. You highlighted order in the universe as proof that the universe was designed
>>> I used logical syllogism to deconstruct your argument and showed that (a) there are instances where the universe doesn't show orderliness as is generally understood, (b) that your use of the word "design" is problematic when we have never witnessed the design of something similar in nature and scope with the known universe, and (c) that even we could establish with certainty that the universe was created, it could have been something else rather than your God. You gave no response.

3. Failing to offer any counters to number 2 above, you started groaning about how atheists live meaningless lives
>>> I debunked your claims citing an article detailing the results of a 2019 Pew Research study. You gave no response.

4. Lost and defeated, you then made up lies about me claiming that everything came from nothing
>>> I asked you to show me anywhere I said such a thing. And guess what? You gave no response.

In light of the foregoing, it is obvious that YOU are the one who has continuously failed to counter anything presented so far in our conversation. So whenever you're ready to put on your big boy pants and face the debate, you know where to begin. I've assisted you in summarizing our conversation so far in this single post.

Let's hear your next excuse?

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Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 12:54pm On Nov 09, 2023
Image123:


It's proper to ask you like you asked someone recently, "Have you been reading my comments or you're a bot?" Now, follow me logically, if that's not too much to ask.

Little reed riding hood hoped that religion will die since people are becoming educated and prosperous, according to someone.
i replied that unfounded hope by saying that as long as man has soul and spirit, religion is going nowhere.
You ran in looking for evidence of soul and spirit.
i obliged you as a good person that i always am. Showing you with scriptures backing what religion, soul and spirit refer to.
It didn't fit what you want, you came in mumbling some nonsense about me quoting Bible and therefore you want to quote also.
i didn't take the bait leading to nowhere.
Then you came again very pained talking about 10 christians and IQ. i advice you to be less emotional.
Your error is looking at you in your face, but you're too deluded to know.
The bolded is your error. Imagine if youre debating with a muslim that Mohammed split the moon. And he goes ahead to quote the koran to back him up, would you believe him? Yes or no? And give reasons
Thank you grin

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Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 12:55pm On Nov 09, 2023
Aemmyjah:



You did not drop any evidence
Just stories
Foolishness makes sense to your kind
So rest
Evidence of what? Dude says no one knows how the earth came about and you want him to drop evidence.
Sometimes I think theists are first class idiottas

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Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 12:56pm On Nov 09, 2023
Aemmyjah:



Assumptions and stories as usual

You say nobody knows but your assumption is what you teach as fact abd those that give credit to a Designer are not intelligent. Olodo pro max
What is the name of this 'designer'?
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 1:00pm On Nov 09, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


You missed his first evidence which is a fact that outside the bible which is

"1) The existence of an orderly universe containing life points to a Creator."

So narrowing your argument down to biblical evidence distracted you from the argument which is "Existence of God" as you said.



Your words sink you.
"Budaatum has amply demonstrated this fact to you".

Meaning, you did not do the demonstration but you relied on budaatum as your authority, hence appeal to budaatum as your authority.



I am sure you don't know it else you wouldn't have raised it up for clearly you abandoned the argument and started angrily attacking his person saying

"because you are thicker than two short wet planks. Your pastors have done a good job locking up your brain cells and throwing away the keys. You cannot fathom simple facts or even common knowledge outside the confines of your religion.

Plus, you've completely lost your mind if you think any of the sad litters of trash you've posted so far constitute "fact". You wouldn't know FACT if it ran you down ten times with a packed molue along your street. I already suspected you were a blundering dimwit

So, is it not him you were attacking rather than the argument "Existence of God"?



And here you are ad homineming me.

All Because you are not able to argue.

Thanks anyway for showing you atheists can't argue that the only thing you guys do is commit fallacies and insult/attack the person rather than the argument.
You absolutely have no idea about fallacies. You don't know what strawman is, neither do you know ad hominem.
Look who is talking about someone attacking another person. You are so obnoxious that even other christians hate you for it, never mind atheists. You cuss, abuse etc when nobody having a civil discourse

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Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 1:04pm On Nov 09, 2023
Aemmyjah:



All the process leading to the formation of zygote and childbirth is product of mere chance?
You should be preaching to those people that wear rags on the streets. You and them are same flock

Your gyne doctor said?
Why not ask women around you and your wife if it's easy
1. Lemme ask you, idiota. When you eat rice and it ends up as feces, was it your Yahweh that made it? Please answer this
2. Idiota, there's nothing like gyne doctor. Its a tautology. Its gyne
Re: Does God Exist? by Image123(m): 1:04pm On Nov 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

Your error is looking at you in your face, but you're too deluded to know.
The bolded is your error. Imagine if youre debating with a muslim that Mohammed split the moon. And he goes ahead to quote the koran to back him up, would you believe him? Yes or no? And give reasons
Thank you grin

You must be more foolish than i think to insinuate that the Bible should not be quoted on the religion section of the forum when talking about religion. What should rather be quoted, Ababio?
We are talking about religion, spirit, soul, not about Mohammed. i have no such time to waste BTW. i would not be found dead debating with a muslin on what Mohammed did. It's his business not mine.
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 1:09pm On Nov 09, 2023
budaatum:



Try to see the individual as the teaching tool who provokes you to spread knowledge.

For while it may seem you need to tie to a desk the individual you responded to, please know that many others are reading what you write and are learning and evolving.

P.s. The 'poor' below are the learners, and not those others who came for miracles and wonders and spectacles.
Bro, its a stretch garnering all those evolution evidence. The works of evolutionary biologist and scientists are voluminous but I'll try my best and put up a thread soon. I'll tag you

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Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 1:13pm On Nov 09, 2023
Image123:


You must be more foolish than i think to insinuate that the Bible should not be quoted on the religion section of the forum when talking about religion. What should rather be quoted, Ababio?
We are talking about religion, spirit, soul, not about Mohammed. i have no such time to waste BTW. i would not be found dead debating with a muslin on what Mohammed did. It's his business not mine.
I made an analogy for you and you got triggered. Lol.
By the way, so you would like to quote the bible in the religion section but wouldn't like the koran to be quoted in arguments? Lol. Look at your hypocrisy.
Let me put it clearly.
If a Muslim puts up a thread that Mohammed split the moon and is indeed greater than Jesus, and proceeds to quote his Koran to back him up, would you believe him? Yes or no. Give evidence grin

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Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 1:32pm On Nov 09, 2023
Maynman:

Look at you, which robot is not more intelligent than you.
Try chatgpt

Having a mind means you are intelligent?πŸ˜‚
So the designer also uses intelligence just like what he designed?
You need a mind to be intelligent.

Those are your words grin

Do robots have minds?

I'm not referring to chatbots. Bots are quite different from robots.
Re: Does God Exist? by Image123(m): 1:36pm On Nov 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

I made an analogy for you and you got triggered. Lol.
By the way, so you would like to quote the bible in the religion section but wouldn't like the koran to be quoted in arguments? Lol. Look at your hypocrisy.
Let me put it clearly.
If a Muslim puts up a thread that Mohammed split the moon and is indeed greater than Jesus, and proceeds to quote his Koran to back him up, would you believe him? Yes or no. Give evidence grin

What is your definition of "triggered" because i don't see where i got triggered. i simply replied your post.
i did not mention the koran, neither did i say i do not want it quoted. i said i would not normally argue with a muslin about Mohammed.
If a muslim puts up a thread about Mohammed, i would ignore it. i hope this is clearer and straigh forward enough.
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 1:37pm On Nov 09, 2023
Aemmyjah:



Every organization or group has an authority. Yes or No?
In order for peace and order to be maintained, people in that organization must submit to the authority. Yes or No?

Why are you tagging me?
If your IQ is equal to that of robots πŸ€–, you should not interact humans na
Lol πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 1:41pm On Nov 09, 2023
cornelboy:



Those are your words grin

Do robots have minds?

I'm not referring to chatbots. Bots are quite different from robots.
Intelligent and intelligence are 2 different things.

What's the difference between bots and robots.
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 1:46pm On Nov 09, 2023
cornelboy:

The designer might have a hand and a mind, what's wrong with that?
Did the hand and mind come by chance?
Who designed it?

If the designer didn't design his own hand, what exactly did he design then?
He is just doing copy and paste πŸ˜‚
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:09pm On Nov 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

1. Lemme ask you, idiota. When you eat rice and it ends up as feces, was it your Yahweh that made it? Please answer this
2. Idiota, there's nothing like gyne doctor. Its a tautology. Its gyne


1. Feces is the product of egestion. Other waste products of excretion like urea and urine and salts are removed from the body to maintain balance.
With your foolish illustration, the exhaust from a car? Was it someone that made it?

2. Ask your wife or mum if labor was easy. Fake student learning from fake teacher

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:10pm On Nov 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

What is the name of this 'designer'?

Michael Jordan cheesy
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:12pm On Nov 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

Evidence of what? Dude says no one knows how the earth came about and you want him to drop evidence.
Sometimes I think theists are first class idiottas


No one knows
If you are not sure of something, why do you teach it as fact or mock others convictions

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Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 2:14pm On Nov 09, 2023
Aemmyjah:


With your foolish illustration, the exhaust from a car? Was it someone that made it?
So what exactly was created by this designer?
We now know that your designer didn't create exhaust from cars πŸ˜‚
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:42pm On Nov 09, 2023
Thorrn:




You can continue repeating yourself until you are blue in the face. Meanwhile, here's a bullet point summary of our correspondence so far:

1. You claimed that the Bible answers the question: "Does God exist?"
>>> I pointed out that the Bible does not qualify as sufficient proof because it commits the circular reasoning fallacy called "begging the question". I gave examples using the Iliad and Odyssey as poor proofs of the existence of Greek deities. You gave no response.

2. You highlighted order in the universe as proof that the universe was designed
>>> I used logical syllogism to deconstruct your argument and showed that (a) there are instances where the universe doesn't show orderliness as is generally understood, (b) that your use of the word "design" is problematic when we have never witnessed the design of something similar in nature and scope with the known universe, and (c) that even we could establish with certainty that the universe was created, it could have been something else rather than your God. You gave no response.

3. Failing to offer any counters to number 2 above, you started groaning about how atheists live meaningless lives
>>> I debunked your claims citing an article detailing the results of a 2019 Pew Research study. You gave no response.

4. Lost and defeated, you then made up lies about me claiming that everything came from nothing
>>> I asked you to show me anywhere I said such a thing. And guess what? You gave no response.

In light of the foregoing, it is obvious that YOU are the one who has continuously failed to counter anything presented so far in our conversation. So whenever you're ready to put on your big boy pants and face the debate, you know where to begin. I've assisted you in summarizing our conversation so far in this single post.

Let's hear your next excuse?


I dropped points that are easily understood by everyone


1. The Bible unlike the books you mentioned is not a myth as places people, events mentioned in it as historical. What is says regarding science like the, the law of gravity, DNA, shape of the Earth and the earth not been supported by anything is accurate even when science and the common people were saying something different. What it predicted about the future was accurate and happened. Before you mention other books, investigate them to see if they have such characteristics

2. The universe is a wonder of design, order, organization. It also has laws that govern it like movement of planetary bodies... It has cycles as well that regulate ecosystems... Olodo like you, poor debater like you says there are instances where universe does not show orderliness. If yu go to a house and see that some parts of it are not in order,you'll conclude the house had no builder. Poor, low IQ individual. With this kind of thinking, you're passing judgment on me?

2. Publish the results na
If your own reverse brain tells you that everything ij the Natural world came to be by a mindless process, it is your own problem. If you reject the that everything including life has no designer, you should accept that your existence is really meaningless, useless and purposeless and without direction or hope.


What I mentioned is not directed towards Christians. Religious people do not reject the existence of the Creator. I presented extra biblical points, there are still more.
If you attack me for saying that God exists when we perceive what is made, what then is your own argument? Abi na your Papa I suppose credit? Stop reasoning from your bottom

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:43pm On Nov 09, 2023
LordReed:


Why should I repeat it? You've gone blind?


Good
Now
Without me showing Jaephoenix, he can conclude that I was not saying anything false especially seeing that you could not refute it

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:44pm On Nov 09, 2023
LordReed:


You have not addressed that comment in the screenshot, you have rather been lying about what I said. Nor have you provided evidence of the so called stone.

Why then did you say that the stone ia not significant evidence grin grin grin

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Re: Does God Exist? by budaatum: 2:50pm On Nov 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

Bro, its a stretch garnering all those evolution evidence. The works of evolutionary biologist and scientists are voluminous but I'll try my best and put up a thread soon. I'll tag you

Good idea a thread. That way it won't get lost in the ignorance

Here's 101. In case it's worth continuing.
https://www.nairaland.com/5238668/evolution-101

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Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed(m): 3:09pm On Nov 09, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Why then did you say that the stone ia not significant evidence grin grin grin

Is that what I wrote?
Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed(m): 3:11pm On Nov 09, 2023
Aemmyjah:



Good
Now
Without me showing Jaephoenix, he can conclude that I was not saying anything false especially seeing that you could not refute it

He isn't blind and can clearly see the difference between what I wrote and what you said I wrote.

Refute something you can't present evidence for? LoLz.

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Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 4:00pm On Nov 09, 2023
Maynman:

Intelligent and intelligence are 2 different things.

What's the difference between bots and robots.
Lol πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 4:04pm On Nov 09, 2023
cornelboy:

Lol πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Also, which part of your body is the mind, show me cheesy
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 4:16pm On Nov 09, 2023
Maynman:

Also, which part of your body is the mind, show me cheesy
The mind doesn't exist because I can't see it πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 4:18pm On Nov 09, 2023
cornelboy:

The mind doesn't exist because I can't see it πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Does your thoughts exist?

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