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Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:46pm On Nov 10, 2023
Aemmyjah:



1. It was my parents that put my throat and all the organs that regulate eating and digestion
They even put bacteria and enzymes that help to break down the food and put the organs at different pH levels... grin

2. What nation?

1. You lack basic knowledge of biology and now you lack basic physiology.
All those processes don't require any input from any parents. They are controlled by actions of the brain, hormones etc

2. Dvmmy you made this statement
The first and only nation the Bible describes as an empire, having several cities (done by their slaves), ancient wonder of architecture, kingship, education, law, taxes, religion, trade, transportation, weapons of war (chariots), dress and most dominant world power (the first) is now located in which continent

So what nation are you referring to
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 10:50pm On Nov 10, 2023
Maynman:

So it's the mind that does it, I don't do it myself?

That means your god will need one...
Do you go with the dictionary definition or not?
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 10:51pm On Nov 10, 2023
cornelboy:

Do you go with the dictionary definition or not?
Be answering my questions too.

So it's the mind that does it, I don't do it myself?

That means your god will need one...
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:54pm On Nov 10, 2023
Aemmyjah:



Olodo grin grin grin
Nutrition can affect ones phenotype
Pollution and toxins can affect one's phenotype
Social interaction can affect ones phenotype
You are a fake doctor, you are not even a doctor. Maybe you are a plant doctor or insect doctor but even an insect doctor should not ask these
Did you study epigenetics in school?
Okay, so I'll have to do basics here. grin
In humans, phenotype examples include blood group, eye color, freckles etc. So tell me, how does my environment affect these traits? I’m listening grin
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:55pm On Nov 10, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Your mean your forefathers were all stupid to ignore that nature came by accident?
Yes, they were stupid by ascribing natural phenomena to supernatural origins

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Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:57pm On Nov 10, 2023
Aemmyjah:



Understand first before you read
Your fathers accepted that everything came from God or the gods
You disagree.
Who is stupid? You or them?
Them. Cos they got no evidence. So was it Amadioha that made thunder? Yes or no?
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 11:13pm On Nov 10, 2023
Aemmyjah:



1. If you like, close your eyes to reality. As if every events is recorded in history. If you like, call it Arabs. In the past, Bible critics said certain people never existed cos there were no extra biblical references to them. An interesting example was David and Belshazzar. Even Pilate was said to not have existed. Archeological evidence gives proof to their existence. If you like, stand in the view of a critic, you have nothing meaningful to offer

2. Oga, there is archeological evidence to Abraham and not just any man named Abraham but it supports something he did in the Bible when he bore his former name, Abram. I even showed LordReed, he could not deny it. He simply said that just one archeological evidence is insignificant. So, go and find the evidence for yourself

3. Date to the timing of the exodus. Now, the historians during the period and those supervising and the custodians of the writings were Egyptian Scribes and priests. Yes or No?

4. Some call it as written by Roman's, some say Europeans. Even Africans are beginning to claim it. The account of the New Testament talks mentions almost nothing about the Roman's and their dealings. The Romans created the character, Jesus and began to persecute those that accepted their writings shey? 🤣


These days, Scholars have come to discover that king James is actually an inaccurate translation of the Bible with several additions and extortions that are not ij the original manuscripts. You know this but your mad zeal to criticize the Bible moves you to pick a poor translation. Are you not even unreasonable? You don't accept a book or it's authorship yet you want to quote from it to support or criticize a claim or event?
Again, it was not supporting that people were resurrected. There was a strong earthquake that split rocks and removed bodies from graves. Witnesses saw this and went into the city, evidently to share what happened.
Keep fooling around

1. Please list those evidence here. Thank you
2. Ditto
3. I have told you, Exodus never happened. How can historians record a non-event?
4. The Romans were polytheists til the time of Emperor Constantine who turned Christian, and made christianity a state religion. They thus started turning their conquered territories into christians , like the ancient Europeans, who in turn colonized Africa.
Its unfortunate you are completely empty in history but choose to argue.
Liar, all the Bible versions clearly stated graves were torn open. No wonder you are a Jehovah Witness. You see white and boldly call it black. Keep foooling yourself and anyone that chose to believe your lies.
The greatest lie is when one lies to him/herself.

Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 11:24pm On Nov 10, 2023
Maynman:

Be answering my questions too.

So it's the mind that does it, I don't do it myself?

That means your god will need one...
Lol what's the mind?
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 11:25pm On Nov 10, 2023
Aemmyjah:


1. Abiogenesis has been dead since Louis Pasteur killed it. But why do you people still teach it as the basis of the origin of life. Life can never come from non-living matter. Who then is the ultimate source of life?
Big bang is not a theory. Na wetin? Na person name? Which theory then supports evolution?

2. I need hyperfaith to believe that everything emerge from nothing. Is that what is logical to you?

1. Abiogenesis was a theory brought by scientist which was cast aside by another scientist. Thus scientists are not interested in lying to you like you lie about those saints resurrection in Matthew. People may teach abiogenesis as a debunked theory. I have said this before.

2. <silence>
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 11:28pm On Nov 10, 2023
Aemmyjah:


The universe then is an effect to it's own Cause. True or false?
See who is shouting logic
Your house doesn't need to have a builder then
But the 'Designer' is an effect to it's own Cause. True or false?
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 11:29pm On Nov 10, 2023
LordReed:


You don carry my name lie again. Quote my response to that piece of archaeological finding.

BTW where did they find this so called stone with field of Abram written on it?
The guy na real case. A dvmb liar is the worst of them all

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 11:41pm On Nov 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

But the 'Designer' is an effect to it's own Cause. True or false?

The universe had a beginning and that is something scientists agree on right? It only corroborate everything the Bible says. Genesis 1:1
The universe is said to be expanding too
The universe is eternal

Now, the universe cannot be the effect of its own existence. It is either caused by something eternal or someone eternal?
Something half a brain understand but your dark head won't allow little light to understand anything.
We don't even know 1% of our vast universe. Na the Designer yo wan comprehend about. Can a robot comprehend his human maker in robotic terms? Can a pet know everything about his owner with his understanding? Na the designer of the Earth you wan sabi with your sheepish understanding

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 11:42pm On Nov 10, 2023
jaephoenix:


1. Abiogenesis was a theory brought by scientist which was cast aside by another scientist. Thus scientists are not interested in lying to you like you lie about those saints resurrection in Matthew. People may teach abiogenesis as a debunked theory. I have said this before.

2. <silence>


1. Today, Abiogenesis is proven fact. Yes or No?

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 11:47pm On Nov 10, 2023
jaephoenix:


1. Please list those evidence here. Thank you
2. Ditto
3. I have told you, Exodus never happened. How can historians record a non-event?
4. The Romans were polytheists til the time of Emperor Constantine who turned Christian, and made christianity a state religion. They thus started turning their conquered territories into christians , like the ancient Europeans, who in turn colonized Africa.
Its unfortunate you are completely empty in history but choose to argue.
Liar, all the Bible versions clearly stated graves were torn open. No wonder you are a Jehovah Witness. You see white and boldly call it black. Keep foooling yourself and anyone that chose to believe your lies.
The greatest lie is when one lies to him/herself.

1. The internet is free to getting any info you want. If you really want to know, search it or remain ignorant

2. Same as 1 above

3. All events that happened 4000 years ago are recorded by historians. True or False? Mention the ones you know cool

4. No Roman wrote the Bible. If you have common sense, you'll see that Christianity was corrupted and later used as a tool by leaders and politicians to keep people under control and go to war...
Oga, the Bible did not say they were resurrected to life

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 11:49pm On Nov 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Them. Cos they got no evidence. So was it Amadioha that made thunder? Yes or no?

Your fathers were stupid? OK na
Baba Tinubu made thunder ⚡

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 11:50pm On Nov 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Yes, they were stupid by ascribing natural phenomena to supernatural origins

Who's the more stupid one to give credit to a mindless process?
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 11:52pm On Nov 10, 2023
Aemmyjah:


The universe had a beginning and that is something scientists agree on right? It only corroborate everything the Bible says. Genesis 1:1
The universe is said to be expanding too
The universe is eternal

Now, the universe cannot be the effect of its own existence. It is either caused by something eternal or someone eternal?
Something half a brain understand but your dark head won't allow little light to understand anything.
We don't even know 1% of our vast universe. Na the Designer yo wan comprehend about. Can a robot comprehend his human maker in robotic terms? Can a pet know everything about his owner with his understanding? Na the designer of the Earth you wan sabi with your sheepish understanding
Leave am. Physical being wan explain spirit being grin grin
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 11:57pm On Nov 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Okay, so I'll have to do basics here. grin
In humans, phenotype examples include blood group, eye color, freckles etc. So tell me, how does my environment affect these traits? I’m listening grin




Body Weight
Skin Color
Allergies
Lung Function
Height

Convince us that you're a doctor and tell us the above cannot be affected by environmental factors?
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 11:58pm On Nov 10, 2023
cornelboy:

Lol what's the mind?
Lol Be answering my questions too.

So it's the mind that does it, I don't do it myself?

That means your god will need one...
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 11:58pm On Nov 10, 2023
jaephoenix:


1. You lack basic knowledge of biology and now you lack basic physiology.
All those processes don't require any input from any parents. They are controlled by actions of the brain, hormones etc

2. Dvmmy you made this statement
The first and only nation the Bible describes as an empire, having several cities (done by their slaves), ancient wonder of architecture, kingship, education, law, taxes, religion, trade, transportation, weapons of war (chariots), dress and most dominant world power (the first) is now located in which continent

So what nation are you referring to

1. My parents were the ones that made by brain and regulated them to control such processes.

2. Internet is your friend
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 11:59pm On Nov 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

You're the epitome of density.
Where did I state parents didn't create the children?


You're the god of density
Show us one parent that will tell you he created his children
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:00am On Nov 11, 2023
jaephoenix:

I do question medical science, and I still conclude it is right. We practice evidence-based medicine

I do question science especially natural science. Many are proven facts. Some are wild, baseless fictions like evolu... grin
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:01am On Nov 11, 2023
jaephoenix:

You completely left his point and went around talking gibberish. He proved to you that even your own bible said the earth came from chaos

The universe is a product of mindless process. Yes or No?
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 12:01am On Nov 11, 2023
Aemmyjah:


The universe is a product of mindless process. Yes or No?

YES.
What's the function of the mind...
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:02am On Nov 11, 2023
jaephoenix:

Normally I'm supposed to answer this gibberish with silence(since I have answered this question severally in this thread alone but you keep on asking it)
I said I don't know how the universe came about.
You really are arrogantly dvmb

When yoh have no evidence, you must Remain silence
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 12:09am On Nov 11, 2023
Emusan:


Can you imagine?

Keep clicking on my moniker where I quote you it'll lead you to the point.
Right. Had to watch the video again slower. Dude said "Its magic, its a mystery, its divinity"
Now the questions….
Do you notice he said its magic too, and its a mystery, and its divine. He did not say its created by any god. He's simply saying the embryology is a marvel. For those of us in the field that understands it, its not a wonder.
He also lied when he said the process makes no mistakes. The process of embryo formation is fraught with many mistakes. Some mistakes are fatal, some are not. If you insist the process is god-driven then you are further indicting your god by saying he's a bumbling old fooool that can't get his shit together

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:11am On Nov 11, 2023
jaephoenix:

1. I'm not here to discuss my profession with you. I'm simply waiting for the day you'll seek for my professional advice again like when you asked me about glaucoma, then I'll remind you I'm a quack cheesy

2. You made this statement
Or the organs and system and mechanism involved in childbirth?
Fake doctor has never heard that the process itself is sometimes called a miracle


What do you think the mechanisms and process in labor are called? And how do you think we doctors predict the outcome of labour or prognosticate the labor process?
They are called Forces of Labor. And I'm not inclined to explain them in details since you're so hung up that its a miracle.
I asked you a question who helps you digest food or form stool from food. I never heard anything from you about those processes.

1. Even a receptionist or sales boy that only finished secondary school can prescribe drugs to someone in the pharmacy. The person won't object cos he's not aware of the educational background. He assumes that everyone there knows about medicines and drugs. I appreciate the advice tho

2. My parents who created me helped me to digest food na. See someone that calls himself a doctor. Walahi, you're not a doctor. Even someone that runs errands in a hospital should know 'miracle of life'. It's very common term used by doctors including atheists. Even a chicken doctor will know. Tell me, what is the name of your hospital again? grin
Because you are able to predict the outcome of something means the process was very easy shey? Maybe i should create a Thread on the family section of Nairaland and ask 'A doctor said labor is a very easy process'. I'll then tag you so you can see the response grin grin grin... Fake, fake fake doctor
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 12:11am On Nov 11, 2023
cornelboy:

Lol pregnancy is now a bad thing lmfao. How did you exist if not through pregnancy?

Who? Do you know the designer now?
Reread what I said. I wrote that some pregnancies can kill their mothers. I guess you don't know we advice some mothers to terminate their pregnancies to save their own lives, if not they die. How come such a designer knew this and still gave the woman the baby?
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:14am On Nov 11, 2023
jaephoenix:

They teach it in school as a theory . They don't call it facts
There are many theories taught in school.

Is it a proven fact?
Note that it is taught in Biology classes
Many of the theories we were taught were demonstrated ij the lab or were shown on screen. Only one was not. The only one that we were told not the question else, we are not intelligent. Is that not indoctrination? Brainwashing?
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 12:16am On Nov 11, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Is it a proven fact?
Note that it is taught in Biology classes
Many of the theories we were taught were demonstrated ij the lab or were shown on screen. Only one was not. The only one that we were told not the question else, we are not intelligent. Is that not indoctrination? Brainwashing?
So the universe having a beginning, where is it taught in school?
Is it a proven fact?
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:17am On Nov 11, 2023
jaephoenix:


1. Teach what to Maynmann?
2. Did you even bother to read up any of those links?
3. The difference between you and I, is unlike you, I believe stuff that can be verified, by one and any time. You believe anything, and I mean anything, as long as its written in a book that has been found to tell lies, time and time again

1. That you never said the world came by chaos. That guy is really out of touch with reality. Fooling around Nairaland

2. I don't drop links. I cite them or drop screenshots. If you cannot do same, pls forget abarrit

3. Evolution was verified?
That the universe is a product of purposeful design is a lie? 😢 😂
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:17am On Nov 11, 2023
jaephoenix:

Real question. DO YOU HAVE COMPREHENSION ISSUES? FOR REAL? shocked
I just dropped facts plus how to go about proving the facts, complete with links for you to read. And you came up with if evolution has undergone fact finding?
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCKERY? shocked shocked shocked


Show us the facts about evolution you drop. I mean proven fact

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