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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 6:42am On Nov 12, 2023 |
izzou: That was the vibe I got from when you visited the place for that wedding. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 6:44am On Nov 12, 2023 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by swiz123(m): 7:17am On Nov 12, 2023 |
If democracy must work in this doomed impoverished country, Bsc or a diploma should be the minimum requirement to cast a vote. I don't believe my vote should weigh the same with an ignorant man ekeing it out daily in his farm at ezzamgbo, Ebonyi state or a village in Taraba state. In my village, people there including my grandmom voted for candidates supported by then LGA chairman who was a known thief because he brings trailer load of rice every December. This is a man who terrorised the village by selling their lands and robbing those whose diaspora sons brought home hard currencies. He made money, built up connection and became a grassroot political godfather and people supported him because of bags of rice. Full bag of rice between 1999 to 2011, half bag between 2011 to 2019 and now quarter bag. Very soon, he will use derica of rice to maintain his "political structure". |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:19am On Nov 12, 2023 |
Amigoss: The bold does not discountenance the the point the man was making in his complaint against the conduct of the electorate in Bayelsa election and Nigeria as a whole . The man said the electorate is not not ready to be liberated and I agree with him. There are enough credible people that have stood up for election in this country at one point or the other , yet the people keep voting those offering them cash and foodstuff instead . This man is on ground in Bayelsa and most likely saw his people choose money above any other alternative . I’m in Lagos and I know neither APC , LP or PDP really did money play during that Obi’s election .If APC played full money politics , there’s no way Obi would have had good numbers in LGA’s like Alimosho , Ikorodu , Agege , etc where the large number of voters there would take the money and damn whatever talks of credibility Obi was offering . There are more than one factors responsible for Obi’s good numbers in Lagos during the last election. U are being unfair to the man saying it’s his lack of credibility that make the electorate reject him and vote for someone offering them money instead . If the electorate are not ready, even if Jesus contests in this country he fit no see vote like that . |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:26am On Nov 12, 2023 |
swiz123: Raumdeuter was right when he said someone in the hinterland where there’s serious poverty will not really care about the lofty ideas, policies and plans of a candidate in Nigeria . Such person is most contented with the little politicians are willing to give during election and move on. I think if democracy will work here then a major opposition party should not go to rest after an election onmy to become active 1 and half year to another election . The opposition party needs to go into remotest LGA’s sensitize the people in their local languages , explain the dangers of voting the incumbent party for paltry 3k on election date , carry them along with the plans of ur party if voted in, relate with them on proposed complex policies in the most simplified way , etc . 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 7:28am On Nov 12, 2023 |
swiz123:Even with an education, a lot of Africans are blinded by religion and tribalism. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:30am On Nov 12, 2023 |
swiz123: Well... that is how we get feudalism. Those people did not ask to be born poor. As it is most of us posting here are two or three generations removed from the same stock. It may sound cliche but Awolowo did the SW a solid with universal basic education. That is where an enlightened middle class starts from. It benefits the political class to have a large mass of poor uneducated electorate in the short run. But In the long run, you get boko haram and bandits |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Realmrsean: 7:31am On Nov 12, 2023 |
This manchi na confirm mugu ![]() https://twitter.com/SavvyRinu/status/1723574540574314579?t=2jovMzgew6SoT5q7JsOg1g&s=19 Him comrades don already leave the arena in a walkout protest 🪧 But this man refused, and wanted to tussle it out 1 against 4 or 5 ![]() Even him comrades sef wey leave am japa no look back as he dey chop beating ![]() Hope say the party and politicians he is work for will show him better Love.. Can't imagine someone's father disgracing himself in such a manner for a politician wey no send him papa message ![]() |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 7:35am On Nov 12, 2023 |
BlueRayDick: With what I know about Rivers State, I can assure you this will not work except you're coming with that 3k to explain the dangers of not collecting 3k on election day. People in rural areas here no send story. The only language they understand is money, 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:35am On Nov 12, 2023 |
BlueRayDick: The bolded is the reality. If you followed the 2016 us elections you will read about how Stacey Abrams who had previously lost the governorship election painstakingly built up a voting block that turned the red state blue The typical Nigerian approach to elections is basically like crashing for the exam the night before, rather than preparing for it the entire term. You can build up a voter base but it will take time, effort and dedication. Also the other problem with the hinterlands - they really and truly have little or no stake in anything. A large number of Nigerian states are a capital city, one or two major cities and everything else a hamlet. The ancient city of so and so. Traditionally neglected. Most of the development is always in the capital cities so what difference does it make to the hinterlands electorate? They also know the score. Any development is going to be in a visible location where it can be showcased to boost the governors profile. Not in a backwater. 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 7:36am On Nov 12, 2023 |
swiz123: This was how America democracy started. There's was literacy test then and if you don't pass it, you won't be allowed to vote. Even till today America is still doing electoral college votes but the difference here is that the delegates will always aligne with their states votes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:42am On Nov 12, 2023 |
Itsrm: The goal is actually to reduce the number of people that will go with the crowd and Collect that 3k . |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 7:43am On Nov 12, 2023 |
![]() Imo state Governorship Election Results Declared So Far: APC: 225,248 LP: 24,047 PDP: 22,771 ....stop the count. seankafor, una too love hope o. Modified: latest results. Imo State Governorship Election INEC Official Results Declared So Far: 𝐀𝐏𝐂: 430,218 𝐋𝐏: 45,020 𝐏𝐃𝐏: 45,698 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:43am On Nov 12, 2023 |
GloriousGbola: It’s that long road of building voters block most politicians don’t want to build in this country |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Realmrsean: 7:46am On Nov 12, 2023 |
OasisX:hope strong pass all of them Strong shall choke the weak 🤧 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:46am On Nov 12, 2023 |
monerozi5590: I think you are actually talking about how blacks were disenfranchised. These are ultimately all policies to turn democracy to plutocracy. That is why in the beginning the voting blocs were landed white men. There is a scene from the 70s roots TV show where a black man said he had the right to vote and they brought out some constitutional document for him to read. He read it as best as he could, then they asked him to explain it. When he couldn't they said how can you expect to vote of you cannot comprehend this simple document. These are the same landowners that had done their utmost best to stop slaves from becoming literate. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 7:49am On Nov 12, 2023 |
OasisX: The gap is too much na for a Supreme Court Governor. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 7:49am On Nov 12, 2023 |
Realmrsean: ![]() ........the margin though, too loud. Check the latest results. LOL! 𝐀𝐏𝐂: 430,218 𝐋𝐏: 45,020 𝐏𝐃𝐏: 45,698 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 7:50am On Nov 12, 2023 |
monerozi5590: ![]() ....iReV dey alive this time around. Everyone can collate the results in realtime. LOL! |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:55am On Nov 12, 2023 |
swiz123: The country is doomed already. This advice take style come late. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:58am On Nov 12, 2023 |
The turnout sef for the elections still dey poor. 2027 may have lesser numbers than we have ever seen About 40% of voters are determining the fate of a whole state? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:02am On Nov 12, 2023 |
patrickmuf: Raumdeuter said it - anyone in the seat will more likely than not, oppress and chance anyone else - fairness be damned They propped up a vegetable [Dan Baba Sunatai] who was clearly and obviously incapacitated for at least two to three years because they did not want a muslim running the state [ Danbaba was christain and his deputy was a muslim] it almost makes you wonder how long they could have continued the characde with a brain dead yardua - https://independent.ng/late-gov-danbaba-suntais-widow-remarries-in-abuja/ especially when you consider some of the players in the saga Turai Yarduas cousin must have been following the same script. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:05am On Nov 12, 2023 |
izzou: my understanding is that voters in the east are typically apathetic |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 8:12am On Nov 12, 2023 |
monerozi5590: Actually not true. Literacy tests started years after the US Civil War (over 100 years after US independence) and the primary goal was to disenfranchise freed African-American slaves. This was one of the major ways the then racist Democratic Party seized power in the Deep South. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 8:14am On Nov 12, 2023 |
GloriousGbola: Oh I didn’t know you had responded. Those tests were targeted at African-Americans. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 8:18am On Nov 12, 2023 |
![]() .....Àgbà ó ni tán lórí lẹ. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 8:40am On Nov 12, 2023 |
afrodoc2: It depends on how you are looking at it sha. If you check America history, blacks were not even allowed to votes but white men. I think it was afer they now said all races can votes but they must conduct literacy test on them. There's this YouTube video I once watch but I can't find it again. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Realmrsean: 8:43am On Nov 12, 2023 |
AOO1 Go and watch the movie OPEINHEIMER. It's about physics and you'd like it |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 8:44am On Nov 12, 2023 |
Amigoss: U get the point. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 8:47am On Nov 12, 2023 |
monerozi5590: You need to read more about it. Your information is incomplete. Before the US Civil War there were no literacy tests. Some years after the civil war those tests started cropping up state by state. People were not allowed to vote unless they passed literacy tests. This disenfranchised most blacks and many illiterate whites. The exception was that if your grandfather had been a voter then you didn’t have to pass the literacy tests. This restored the voting rights of most of the illiterate whites but still kept the blacks from voting as their grandfathers were obviously slaves. So you see, it was all a grand scheme to suppress the African-Americans. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by swiz123(m): 8:50am On Nov 12, 2023 |
GrammarNazi1: A tribalistic educated man can make better logical judgement than an impoverished uneducated tribalistic man. At some point, an educated person will draw a line between trivial sentiments and competence. That's why you wouldn't expect alhaji Popi to support Seyi Makinde if he decides to contest for presidency. Poverty and illiteracy is worse than you think. I am certain I will win you in your village if I give them money. Stomach infrastructure topples any religious or tribal sentiment. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 8:52am On Nov 12, 2023 |
Amigoss:Money actually plays a part to some extent but should a candidate warms his heart to his people money or guns won't matter, in 2007, 2015 and this year elections my people shunned money and threat of violence to vote for who they wanted. 2007 election in particular it was operation powershift despite the efforts of PDP almost all the elective posts in Kogi Central were won by AC candidates. |
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