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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:29pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

You don't even know any science. From my interaction with you, you're dvmber than a wet rock. So how can you question what you don't understand?

Many things I have demonstrated myself
That is why I love science cow you have to question what you learn and start working on it
Only one, we were told it to question but accept blindly - evolution

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:29pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

I know plenty. Starting from me. I made my child grin

Olodo grin

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:30pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:


1. Explain please

2. Lol 😆
This guy na clown. Hope whoever that is following this thread can now see Aemmyjah is a full blooded dvmmy. He makes wild claims, then asks you to looks for evidence backing his own wild claim. Lol 😆
You have no evidence.

1. I was trying to make your folly appealing to you

2. When someone is being sarcastic with a fool who talks nonsense

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:31pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

Please explain how the phenotypic expressions I listed can be affected by the environment

And the ones i mentioned are not phenotypic expressions? undecided

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:31pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

What do you mean by 'giving credit to a mindless process'?

One who will not give credit to a purposeful designer is automatically Giving credit to mindless process

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:32pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

Of course u resort to stupiid answers when you're caught

When you're sarcastic with a fool's claims , he'll think you're stupid

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:34pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

1. I knew you'd say this. Its your regular recourse. Poor you. Lol 😆
You have no evidence. Yet you keep on putting up posts all over the place without providing a shred of evidence. If someone deign asks you to provide evidence, you send the person on a wild goose chase to look for your evidence. Check all the atheists here. Have you seen any of us send you to look for evidence for our own posts? Nope. Why? We are capable of looking up data and we can back up our points.
Now ask a theist to provide proof of his bullshit, he'll tell you to look it up. I have noticed this bullshyt from 3 christians here , and 4 offline Christian friends. Why argue if you don't have proof of your bullshyt?

2. Not all. Some events in the Egyptians period which pre-dates the bible were recorded. Yet the bible covers many centuries but precious lil evidence of the events that happened in that era. What does it tell you? grin

3. So who wrote the Bible? Please read a lil bit about Bible history. At least we agree on something. The bible is used as a corruption tool
4. You're still bent on lying about something that is in black and white? Men, I dey fear you true true. You guys should just see how dishonest this Aemmyjah is. A passage that is written in plain text is grossly twisted out of proportion. After saying King James is wrong, now I have shown you that virtually all the bible versions said the same thing, you still stuck to your guns. This time without an excuse grin
Look at you

1. Stop asking me for evidence that you can search on the internet. The same way you lied that there were no links on my post on God's existence

2. Go and be reading Egyptian history na. Why did people say that Shishak and Pilate never existed either until archeologists dropped something

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:36pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

1. I knew you'd say this. Its your regular recourse. Poor you. Lol 😆
You have no evidence. Yet you keep on putting up posts all over the place without providing a shred of evidence. If someone deign asks you to provide evidence, you send the person on a wild goose chase to look for your evidence. Check all the atheists here. Have you seen any of us send you to look for evidence for our own posts? Nope. Why? We are capable of looking up data and we can back up our points.
Now ask a theist to provide proof of his bullshit, he'll tell you to look it up. I have noticed this bullshyt from 3 christians here , and 4 offline Christian friends. Why argue if you don't have proof of your bullshyt?

2. Not all. Some events in the Egyptians period which pre-dates the bible were recorded. Yet the bible covers many centuries but precious lil evidence of the events that happened in that era. What does it tell you? grin

3. So who wrote the Bible? Please read a lil bit about Bible history. At least we agree on something. The bible is used as a corruption tool
4. You're still bent on lying about something that is in black and white? Men, I dey fear you true true. You guys should just see how dishonest this Aemmyjah is. A passage that is written in plain text is grossly twisted out of proportion. After saying King James is wrong, now I have shown you that virtually all the bible versions said the same thing, you still stuck to your guns. This time without an excuse grin
Look at you

3. It was misused by some persons makes the book itself corrupt shey. The Bible changes lives of millions for the better. Which science book can do so?

4. Oga, they were not resurrected to life
Keep arguing over a book you don't acknowledge anything about.

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:36pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

Its a theory, dvllard

Valid or invalid?

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:38pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

1. The universe materialized literally out of nothing, at a tiny but finite size, and expanded thereafter. There were no moments before the moment of smallest size because there was no “before.” Likewise, there was no “creation” of the universe, since that concept implies action in time.
You keep on cherrypicking on science. Its either you disbelieve it or believe it. No fence sitters.
Big Bang Theory doesn't allow the concept of a creator.
Pets know their owners more than the owners know themselves. They know their smell, favorite chairs, etc. Also robots know their owners. Popular example is Sophia. Let me assume i dont know the creator, so how do you, a fellow creature like me with a 'sheepish understanding', know in fact that a creator exists, and in fact knows this creator's mind etc?

Olodo
And by itself, the end products included life, consciousness, intelligence, natural laws, order, organization... Even if It does by itself, why can't intelligent humans do better?

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:42pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:


1. The Bible isn't used as a historical source. When you studied history, was any religious books used? The bible said the earth is flat, that it has ends, and is stood on structures. It said nothing about gravity, and of course, never predicted the future. In an earlier thread , I asked you before to point the passages that predicted the future and of course you went mute.

2. You absolutely don't understand the point she made. She simply asked you to point to an orderly universe, and lets compare to ours. That is the only way we can conclude our universe is orderly.
For example, if you don't know how a clean shirt looks like, how would you say your shirt is clean?
This analogy seems to complex for simpletons like you to comprehend.

3. Both of us(Thornn and I) have told you countless times on this thread that we dont know how the universe came about. But it doesn't stop you from lying once again we said it came by a mindless process. And what has rejection of creationism got to do with purpose in life? Do you use band aid to keep your brain together?

4. Actually many religious reject creationism. In fact, the propagator of Big Bang was a priest. The Catholic Church has accepted evolution. Indeed, most Muslims say they believe in evolution.
Although "Gallup reports that 46% of Americans believe that God created humans in their present form less than 10,000 years ago", it found "only 11% belong to religions openly rejecting evolution." With this approach toward evolution, scriptural creation stories are typically interpreted as being allegorical in nature.

1. Bible says earth is a circle. You yourself argued that circle is not a shape. Now you say it's flat. Ignorant you

2. Stupid analogy

3. Then why do you counter us when you have nothing to offer. Just remain in silence or keep making noise

4. Why do you bring evolution with religion? Is evolution a scientific philosophy? Perhaps, cos their teachers told them not to question it or questioning it will make them unintelligent

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:43pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

1. I asked you if it was Yahweh that digested your food, not only did you not answer my question but you set another trap for yourself. Yes, the exhaust from a car was made by the car.
For the second time, answer my question.
2. Another stupid post. What has the ease of labor got to do with the fact that you call gynecologists 'gyne doctor' instead of 'gyne'. Are you this dense and stuuupid in life?

1. It is my father that digest my food na

2. Gyne doctor or gyne... You and that gyne are fools.

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:45pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

ChatGPT is obviously smarter than you, never mind Sophia


A calculator that make a calculation with such speed that humans cannot but they are not smarter. No bot is greater than any human, not even a baby. Your brain is not working. Quacko

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:53pm On Nov 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Yet we both know much better than you who does not even know anything beyond making sentences.

Jaephoenix is an ignorant, arrogant clown

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:55pm On Nov 12, 2023
HellVictorinho6:


Why do you think you are part of everything since you exist?

Maynman should answer that too

Why do I think?
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:56pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

She has countered your claims here, at least twice.
Not only are you lot dvmb but you have poor comprehension skills too. Its a chore debating with you folks

Bunch of miscreants
What are you doing in the religious section on nairaland?
Again, your religion or philosophy leaves your life as meaningless and purposeless and useless
You should be conversing with animals

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:57pm On Nov 12, 2023
LordReed:


Like you have remained silent on the evidence for field of Abram stone bah. Bwahahahahaha!

When the evidence is still there
Or the internet is beyond you? grin grin

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Re: Does God Exist? by Thorrn(f): 2:01pm On Nov 12, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Your epistle is too long to read

Your inability to read long, comprehensive posts isn't my problem

You said that even animals know the law of gravity

Yes. If a dog walks to the edge of a rooftop, it's smart enough to restrain itself from jumping off because it knows it will fall to its' death.

There was a time when humans did not even know about the laws of gravity

Actually, humans had the idea. They just didn't understand it fully. It wasn't until Newton's Principia Mathematica that gravity was established as a law. Humans became aware of gravity ever since the first apple fell from its tree.

When your brain is not working

You don't have a brain.

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Re: Does God Exist? by Thorrn(f): 2:05pm On Nov 12, 2023
Aemmyjah:



Fools
If you belive that there was no Creator
Fine for you
But it leaves your life without meaning and purpose

>>>

Thorrn:


Ah well, if mindlessly repeating lies to yourself will make you feel better about your lack of intellectual substance, then knock yourself out cheesy grin cheesy tongue.

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Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed(m): 2:05pm On Nov 12, 2023
Aemmyjah:


When the evidence is still there
Or the internet is beyond you? grin grin

I don't do people's homework for them, do your own homework. Meanwhile since this is your stance why do YOU ask people to supply evidence, why don't you go search for it yourself or you just enjoy employing double standards aka hypocrisy? LoLz.

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:07pm On Nov 12, 2023
LordReed:


I don't do people's homework for them, do your own homework. Meanwhile since this is your stance why do YOU ask people to supply evidence, why don't you go search for it yourself or you just enjoy employing double standards aka hypocrisy? LoLz.

When i drop your screenshot
You said it was not significant or something
Now, you are capping nonsense

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:08pm On Nov 12, 2023
Thorrn:


Your inability to read long, comprehensive posts isn't my problem



Yes. If a dog walks to the edge of a rooftop, it's smart enough to restrain itself from jumping off because it knows it will fall to its' death.



Actually, humans had the idea. They just didn't understand it fully. It wasn't until Newton's Principia Mathematica that gravity was established as a law. Humans became aware of gravity ever since the first apple fell from its tree.



You don't have a brain.

Imagine someone with a brain challenging someone that says that everything came from a source. Bad brain wants us to accept that something can come from nothing

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Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed(m): 2:10pm On Nov 12, 2023
Aemmyjah:



Fools
If you belive that there was no Creator
Fine for you
But it leaves your life without meaning and purpose

LoLz. It's the intellectual benighted who cannot imagine meaning and purpose without belief in a creator.

I have plenty of meanings and purpose to occupy my lifetime without getting stuck in an intellectual prison house called JW.org.

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Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed(m): 2:10pm On Nov 12, 2023
Aemmyjah:


When i drop your screenshot
You said it was not significant or something
Now, you are capping nonsense

Still lying I see. It's obvious you can't learn.

Oga drop evidence or go and sleep. LoLz.

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Re: Does God Exist? by Thorrn(f): 2:17pm On Nov 12, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Imagine someone with a brain

I know right? Accept my sympathy. Living without a brain must be hell for you embarassed.

challenging someone that says that everything came from a source.

Nobody with respect for facts and reality will make bald faced assertions without backing them up. Except if he's a drunkard. And you do sound like a drunkard.

Bad brain wants us to accept that something can come from nothing

And you continue to tell unfounded lies. Keep it up. You're the one damaging your reputation on this site if you don't know cheesy.

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Re: Does God Exist? by Image123(m): 2:34pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

Ok. That's the same way I feel. I shouldn't have engaged you. So I'm sorry for asking you to prove soul and spirit exists.
Promise to ignore your posts

Beautiful. You should not even be in the religion section in the first place. For example, i will not go to the Islam or celeb or games section, i have no business there. You don't believe in religion or in God, but you come to talk about God and religion, and you expect people to talk to you about God and religion without using their religion, books and God? Who does that except you guys? cheesy cheesy
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 3:15pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

Have you ever looked at me skulls of ancient humans like Homo Erectus etc? Do they look like ours (Homo Sapiens)? Would you call it shape shifting?
Ancient humans are not different from us lol. You guys level believing myths is something else o
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 3:17pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:


1. Why do you keep on throwing up this Special Pleading Fallacy? Who created this designer? If you said he popped up from thin air or eternal, why can't the earth be eternal?

2. Maybe you've not been reading this thread, so lemme give you the benefit of doubt. I SAID I DONT KNOW HOW THE EARTH CAME ABOUT , BUT IF YOU MUST GIVE ME YOUR EXPLANATION, BACK IT UP WITH FACT
Even if it was created, how do you know it was your favorite sky daddy?

3. As far back as 1960 when I'm sure you werent born, scientists created an artificial cell. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_cell#:~:text=In%20the%201960s%20Thomas%20Chang,compartments%20made%20from%20artificial%20materials.
These days human babies can even be made de novo in the lab! De novo means afresh. Those researches had to be restricted because of ethical and other issues. In fact some religious nutjobs demonstrated when it was announced.

4. Can you explain Life itself is a miracle undoubtedly. ?

5. 97-99% of scientists believe in evolution. So I don't even know where you get your lies from. The overwhelming majority of biologists accept evolution. Those who know professionally the evidence for evolution cannot deny it. Scientists agree that the evolutionary origin of animals and plants is a scientific conclusion beyond reasonable doubt.
Of course there would be naysayers. Every profession has it. For example, the covid pandemic exposed the disagreement amongst medical professions. A tiny fraction of physicians believe Covid vax caused more harm than good, even though there is overwhelming evidence. Would you say Covid vax is debatable? Some also believe hydrochoroquinine (HCQ) can cure it(even though it wasn't proven).
There are even a branch of biologist known as evolution biology. Fossils back up these evolutionary points. Would you say the fossils are lies? So evolution isn't a theory, but 100% FACTS.

6. A theist that believes that Yahweh popped outta thin air, created man outta mud and woman outta a rib says evolution is a scam. Whoa. Have you studied the fossils of human ancestors? No. Yet you are sure its a scam.

7. About belief, all you said is funny.
What has all you said gotta do with your faith as a Christian?
I'm sure you didn't read the link before pasting it here.
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 3:17pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

You still don't get it.
You have been yammering about an 'Intelligent designer' for days now. How this designer creates life etc. Now I have put told you some of his babies are lethal to their mothers, and what's more, he knows the babies can kill their mothers but he still put those babies in the wombs. Now you're telling me there must be a mistake. If there is a mistake, its obviously your 'intelligent designer' that made it
Im using the 'pregnancy abnormalities' to prove one of your premises is false. And that premise is the intelligent designer
Did you harm your mother?
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 3:19pm On Nov 12, 2023
HellVictorinho6:


Is there really an everything in existence?
I don't understand you.
Re: Does God Exist? by HellVictorinho6(m): 5:44pm On Nov 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

Did I say so?

Anybody that agrees there is a universe also agrees there is
an 'everything in existence'
Re: Does God Exist? by HellVictorinho6(m): 5:48pm On Nov 12, 2023
cornelboy:

I don't understand you.


Although we exist,is there really a universe?

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