emmyN:
■ Lol, enough, let's not derail the thread any further. Stop being unnecessarily angry though, it would help.

Are you really not able to tell the difference between Anger and Disgust? Do you really not understand why I would be disgusted by the many attempts made repeatedly by mere men to throw God under the bus all so they could stroke their egos using His name?

Kobojunkie:
1. That is a foolish summation on your part. In the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ introduced the Holy Spirit — the Spirit of Truth — as a Helper to those who belong to Him. Are you somehow suggesting that equally means that the Holy Spirit is meant to take a back seat in the lives of the followers of Jesus Christ?

2. Which Satan again? Why can't you people stop yourselves from using every opportunity you get to proclaim your fervor for the demons that haunt you? The story speaks of a serpent, and you already jumped to calling on Satan? Jeez!

According to the account, there was no sharing of blame to be had since they were both culpable— even the snake was held responsible for what happened. So, I am not sure why these desperate attempts to twist the story when it is not needed.

Again, Eve was Adam's equal before Eve and Adam sinned against God and remained Adam's equal even after God placed the curse on women in marriage. The curse made it appear as though they were not.

It is interesting to see you talk about the Bible records, that insinuates that you are Christian.

No wonder you dodged the questions I put to you earlier. You really need deep understanding of the concept of marriage according to God.

Do you know that the Holy Spirit operates in the life of christians to the extent that you allow him operate? The Holy Spirit can actually take the lead in your life, if you allow him, and you can equally take the lead and take responsibility for the consequences. That does not mean the the Holy Spirit was not with you, in fact you were in the situation together but you chose to take the lead and he followed, as powerful as he is.

The serpent was possessed by the Satan, read your Bible again. Hence the serpent, in the case, that convinced Eve to take from the fruit of the three of knowledge of good and evil, against God's will, is satan/devil.

What curse did God place on women that made it look like woman is not equal to man? Can you share it.

Eve was made from man unlike every creation of God. God had to cause man to sleep and pull his rib and make a woman with it. Don't you think there was a lesson God was trying to communicate to us all. My lady, Adam and Eve were all God's creation but Adam was not Eve's equal, even in the garden of Eden.

God had to challenge Adam directly, not Eve, when he realized what they have done. The silly Adam could only respond that it was the woman he created for him that gave him the fruit to eat.

Man and Woman are equal before God and everyone but in marriage, the husband is not equal to his wife before God. There is a reason for that and you have to ask God to explain to you the reason.

Wallade:
■ It is interesting to see you talk about the Bible records, that insinuates that you are Christian.
No wonder you dodged the questions I put to you earlier. You really need deep understanding of the concept of marriage according to God.
■ Do you know that the Holy Spirit operates in the life of christians to the extent that you allow him operate? The Holy Spirit can actually take the lead in your life, if you allow him, and you can equally take the lead and take responsibility for the consequences. That does not mean the the Holy Spirit was not with you, in fact you were in the situation together but you chose to take the lead and he followed, as powerful as he is. .

It is these sickening delusions of yours that make me thank God everyday that I am not a Christian!

God cursed marriage and childbearing in Genesis 3 vs 16 . He washed his hands of both, leaving it to the world of men. He cursed a woman in marriage saying though she would desire her husband, the husband would blindly rule over her in marriage. Christians completely ignore all that is stated so they can instead assert that God is glorified in the marriages and lives subject to God's curse.

14 So the Lord God said to the snake, “You did this very bad thing, so bad things will happen to you. It will be worse for you than for any other animal. You must crawl on your belly and eat dust all the days of your life.
15 I will make you and the woman enemies to each other. Your children and her children will be enemies. You will bite her child’s foot, but he will crush your head.”
16 Then God said to the woman, “I will cause you to have much trouble when you are pregnant. And when you give birth to children, you will have much pain. You will want your husband very much, but he will rule over you.”[a]
17 Then God said to the man, “I commanded you not to eat from that tree. But you listened to your wife and ate from it. So I will curse the ground because of you. You will have to work hard all your life for the food the ground produces.
18 The ground will grow thorns and weeds for you. And you will have to eat the plants that grow wild in the fields.
[b]19 You will work hard for your food, until your face is covered with sweat, You will work hard until the day you die, and then you will become dust again.I used dust to make you,and when you die, you will become dust again.”
20 Adam[c] named his wife Eve.[d] He gave her this name because Eve would be the mother of everyone who ever lived.
21 The Lord God used animal skins and made some clothes for the man and his wife. Then he put the clothes on them.
22 The Lord God said, “Look, the man has become like us—he knows about good and evil. And now the man might take the fruit from the tree of life. If the man eats that fruit, he will live forever.”
23 So the Lord God forced the man out of the Garden of Eden to work the ground he was made from.
24 God forced the man to leave the garden. Then he put Cherub angels and a sword of fire at the entrance to the garden to protect it. The sword flashed around and around, guarding the way to the tree of life. - Genesis 3 vs 14 - 24

Jesus Christ came along and declared that your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 -36. Affirming God's original claim that He no longer has His hands or desire on the marriages of men, yet Christians continue to insist, even 2000 years after that God glories in their marriages which are submitted to the curse of sin. This kind of blindness, dem no dey buy am for the market at all!

2. Yet more delusional gibberish!

descarado:

These don't have anything in common with marriage.
Never use them as comparison.

See, ladies who have done that knows it is the best way to controlling a man, respect is love to a man.

when that's done, ask him whatever and he will sheepishly do it for you. though there are few exceptions

everyone knows that disrespecting a man has never helped any lady in a marriage

As I said earlier, if you can't submit please don't marry

Wallade:


If I have to pay, full, half or whatever value, for the kind of skills or attributes I desire in a woman that I married, then she is not different from a prostitute.

That is not a wife, that woman is a prostitute and yes, she deserves to be paid in full for her skills.

Culture and religion may sound illogical to you but I am so sure that you are not a product of lab experiments or natural man made activities. There is somethings or a lot of things Godly about the existence and creation of you and the perverts that desperately want to change the narrative of marriage.

Why do you want to disregard religion and culture to push, support and buttress your narratives?

The concept of submission in this business/political examples given is what we want you to pick out here, no one is asking that you pay your woman for her contributions to the home
Your partner is not a prostitute even when you reward her for the care and comforts she brings to the relationship.

Albertone:
■ If you notice, submission of a woman is mostly brought by the holy books. These holy books will guide the woman.
If the husband asks the woman to do what the holy book speaks against, she can refuse outrightly. It was even said in the quran but I don't know where exactly.

Which of the holy books since Scripture instead says that a woman submitting in marriage is a curse and a curse never brings about anything good?

Haha...u really need emotional buffering.
As I have said earlier, you won't achieve anything in marriage with a feministic idea. U can insult all you want sha.

Magnoliaa:


Why are you now shouting, and most importantly, who are you scaring with these half-baked fear tactics? 😂

What exactly is responsible for the acidic burn in your tommy over my relationship choices or otherwise? What is living in your stomach that's making you blurt all these assumptions about me? Where did I even talk about 50-50 on this thread??

Ahhh, now I know you're sniffing some shxt. "Harrysong just married 30 women" 🤡. Ohhh, I feel so threatened 😭😭. Who would ever want my feminist ass? 😧

Disrespectfully get the hell out of my mentions, dude.

Kobojunkie:
It is these sickening delusions of yours that make me thank God everyday that I am not a Christian!

God cursed marriage and childbearing in Genesis 3 vs 16 . He washed his hands of both, leaving it to the world of men. He cursed a woman in marriage saying though she would desire her husband, the husband would blindly rule over her in marriage. Christians completely ignore all that is stated so they can instead assert that God is glorified in the marriages and lives subject to God's curse.
Jesus Christ came along and declared that your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 -36. Affirming God's original claim that He no longer has His hands or desire on the marriages of men, yet Christians continue to insist, even 2000 years after that God glories in their marriages which are submitted to the curse of sin. This kind of blindness, dem no dey buy am for the market at all!

2. Yet more delusional gibberish!

Amazing, so are not a Christian. Hmm, you need Jesus in your life.

Anyway, let's address the issues you have raised.

God did not curse marriage and child bearing; God did not wash his hands off both and left it for men. No!

God is the author and finisher of marriage. He ordained and master minded it and he made it excellent. He gave a blue print of it but the world is trying to twist marriage to become whatever they wish.

God did not order the man to rule blindly over woman in marriage. No! God declared than the husband would rule above his wife.

Gen 3:16 - I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be contrary to husband, but he shall rule over you.”

Jesus never affirmed the , supposed, position of God that God is no longer involved in marriage. Who brainwashed you to this extent? You have been broken and you really need help ASAP.

You don't have to get married, of you are not ready. You should not even get married in this state. The marriage will be a disaster.

You need to be schooled and lectured on marriage, largely from God's perspective. I understand your challenge now and I feel terribly sorry about the situation. But it is not hopeless if you are willing to let go and give in to Godly teachings about marriage.

What the feminist movement should advocate is not equality with your husband. You should rather advocate equity in the society so that every one, both men and women, can have what is required to be successful in life, endeavors and marriages. Everyone will be happy, satisfied and fulfilled in marriage with equity guaranteed.

Wallade:
■ Amazing, so are not a Christian. Hmm, you need Jesus in your life. Anyway, let's address the issues you have raised. God did not curse marriage and child bearing; God did not wash his hands off both and left it for men. No!
■ God is the author and finisher of marriage. He ordained and master minded it and he made it excellent. He gave a blue print of it but the world is trying to twist marriage to become whatever they wish. God did not order the man to rule blindly over woman in marriage. No! God declared than the husband would rule above his wife.
Gen 3:16 - I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be contrary to husband, but he shall rule over you.”
Jesus never affirmed the , supposed, position of God that God is no longer involved in marriage. Who brainwashed you to this extent? You have been broken and you really need help ASAP.

See what I mean... Christianity, religion as a whole, is a special kind of blindness that defies logic!

2. All I can advice is that you open your eyes for the first time in your deluded life to what is right in front of you.

Mayeldah:


The concept of submission in this business/political examples given is what we want you to pick out here, no one is asking that you pay your woman for her contributions to the home
Your partner is not a prostitute even when you reward her for the care and comforts she brings to the relationship.

Did you read what I responded to based on my position that you quoted? I guess you didn't.

My wife is not a prostitute because she wouldn't expect me to pay her for her skills and attributes.

She only wants to be appreciated, loved and cared for. There is room for appreciation of my wife with my resources, words, care and attention. I only have a challenge when she feels I must pay or reward her for her skills and attributes and she commands me to do so.

Kobojunkie:
See what I mean... Christianity, religion as a whole, is a special kind of blindness that defies logic!

2. All I can advice you to do is that you open your eyes for the first time in your deluded life to what is right in front of you.

If the curse that you mean is : "in pain you shall bring forth children". You need to understand that no child birth occurred before this statement by God. God had to let Eve and Adam leave Eden to cater for themselves. He ordered them to multiply and gave the man a Di..ck and the woman pu...ssy; he created them with reproductive system so he planned that man will knack woman belle with his di..ck and sperm and she will conceive, go into labor and be delivered of babies.

It is not a curse, it is the way for man and woman to fulfill the directive of God to go and multiply. We're you expecting man to be commanding Children to come forth by magic to multiply or how?

Christianity isn't blindness, it is a way of life. You don't have to be a Christian but you better be a Christian. My eyes are wide open, I love being a Christian.

Try to become a Christian or Moslem. It will help you.

Thank you.

Wallade:
■ If the curse that you mean is : "in pain you shall bring forth children". You need to understand that no child birth occurred before this statement by God. God had to let Eve and Adam leave Eden to cater for themselves. He ordered them to multiply and gave the man a Di..ck and the woman pu...ssy; he created them with reproductive system so he planned that man will knack woman belle with his di..ck and sperm and she will conceive, go into labor and be delivered of babies.
It is not a curse, it is the way for man and woman to fulfill the directive of God to go and multiply. We're you expecting man to be commanding Children to come forth by magic to multiply or how?

As I said, I thank God for sparing me from this sort of blindness that is religion!

Kobojunkie:
As I said, I thank God for sparing me from this sort of blindness that is religion!

Regrettably, I completely understand. Your life is ultimately your decision.

Great conversation anyway.

Thanks for sharing your views.

Tommydare:
Haha...u really need emotional buffering.
As I have said earlier, you won't achieve anything in marriage with a feministic idea. U can insult all you want sha.

And how that is still yet your business, unless you plan on getting married to me, is what I am still figuring out.

Be calming down.

Magnoliaa:


And how that is still yet your business, unless you plan on getting married to me, is what I am still figuring out.

Tommydare:
Be calming down.

Are you going to marry me? Do you want to?

I'm just trying to explain things here but you pour anger on me as if we dey fight abi we don get fight before.

Magnoliaa:


Are you going to marry me? Do you want to

It’s their stinking audacity for me!!!
No atom of leadership traits but demand submission.
From all I’ve read here,submission to them means control.

Magnoliaa:


Mtcheeeewwww, when you have a logical response to give me as the gendar deserving of "leadership", come back to quote me.



Imagine person like you sef dey find woman wey go dey bow and worship am 🤣.

Like is this the intelligence you go take dey do head of house? This is it? You people have audacity sha. Boundlessly.

A woman that will tell me I may not agree with you but I know you will always want what is best for the family so I support you.

Kobojunkie:
Does this loyalty go both ways or the woman is expected to be loyal to a fault?

Both ways

sandygechy:
It’s their stinking audacity for me!!!
No atom of leadership traits but demand submission.
From all I’ve read here,submission to them means control.

See, babe, if not that they've overran here and pursued the ladies away and will fill the thread with their negativity and dissuade the few women around from commenting, I would have created a thread; "Women, what's your definition of a provider/protector/loving man?" And sit down to watch their hypocrisy play out in 3D. 😂😂

Because the same people who have so much to say about women being submissive will suddenly start foaming at the mouth if women started listing their own 'biblical'/societal standards of a man.

African men who wants an African, Western, and Asian woman all-in-one.

Tommydare:
I'm just trying to explain things here but you pour anger on me as if we dey fight abi we don get fight before.

You still haven't answered whether you'll like to marry or even date me.

I am waiting on a response.

I don't want to marry someone with a feministic idea. It will cause problems.

Magnoliaa:


You still haven't answered whether you'll like to marry or even date me.

I am waiting on a response.

Tommydare:
I don't want to marry someone with a feministic idea. It will cause problems.

Great. So keep your advice about my love life to my pockets, yes?

Of course I'm keeping in your pocket. You will need it one day. Take care of yourself.

Magnoliaa:


Great. So keep your advice about my love life to my pockets, yes?

Tommydare:
Of course I'm keeping in your pocket. You will need it one day. Take care of yourself.

Let my boyfriend worry about that; you can keep it moving, Kid.

I pity whoever is your boyfriend with this saucy verbal essence of yours.

Magnoliaa:


Let my boyfriend worry about that; you can keep it moving, Kid.

Tommydare:
I pity whoever is your boyfriend with this saucy verbal essence of yours.

Dudeeee, move alongggg! It this how you want to be a respectful man deserving of submission?? Petty bickering and going back and forth with a woman?

Rest it. I am going to have the last word here until you logged back into your other account and continue. Shey it is my attention you crave that much, abi? You will have it, but on my terms, you'll see.

Haha. What is with this rage? Choleric temper is something you gat to deal with. I have told you earlier...be calming down.

Magnoliaa:


Dudeeee, move alongggg! It this how you want to be a respectful man deserving of submission?? Petty bickering and going back and forth with a woman?

Rest it. I am going to have the last word here until you logged back into your other account and continue. Shey it is my attention you crave that much, abi? You will have it on my terms. I'll see to that.

Tommydare:
Haha. What is with this rage? Choleric temper is something you gat to deal with. I have told you earlier...be calming down.

Okay, I won't calm down. I am waiting to see the worst you will do about it.

Take am softly...na husband house u dey goooo

Magnoliaa:


Okay, I won't calm down. I am waiting to see the worst you will do about it.

Tommydare:
Take am softly...na husband house u dey goooo

Toor...it seems like you are not going to stop capping shxt anytime soon, and my time is quite constrained, so you can continue to direct your usual trash to this toilet, now and henceforth --- 🚽🚽.