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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:13pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
comodo: Frank Rijkard Rudd Hullitt Patrick Vierra Darren Moore Patrick Kluivert Kole Toure Sol Campbell Liam Rosenior Ledly King Micheal Emenalo To name a few |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 8:20pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
mostob: SE is playing with too many selfish strikers in the starting 11 and it is affecting the balance of the team because the strikers do not want to drop deep to help the midfield and defense. we need strikers that like to pass the ball and are selfless if SE is to continue with such setup which is a bad setup because the strikers are not scoring goals.. the other option is to start 4 midfielders and 2 strikers or 5 midfielders and 1 striker so that the midfielders will control the midfield and the game with their passing since the 4 strikers the SE is starting don't know how to control the game and midfield is too lean to control the midfield and so once SE loses possession there is usually space in the midfield for opponents to pass through the SE midfield which is why the SE concedes the first goal most of the time. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:21pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Ons lighter note should we draft in the FUTURE now his is Obi. I wonder š¤ it he is Obi -Dient and will accept an immediate cap to play in the SE. At least he will be better than Sadiq .
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:38pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Barryseal: This is someone who took his time to watch that game and especially observe our midfield setup. Onyeka being positionally indisciplined wasn't going to sit as the CDM. He kept roaming. This is why Iwobi kept playing deeper. And how limiting it was. Iwobi fell deeper as a DLP and long balls and switch of plays are not his thing. He's no midfield metronome or tempo controller. He is rather an attacking midfield pearl who can lay on the final ball from advanced areas or in the pockets between the defensive lines of the opponents. Onyeka will bomb forward but doesn't have the technical nous to play against a deep block from advanced positions. Lacks the technical manipulation and skills in tight areas to turn and evade press. This is not rocket science. It is football made easy when one takes the time to actually profile players right and observe who fits into what roles exactly. The team's midfield needs Nwakali. But we also need more than Nwakali in the middle. We need Alhassan's brain and energy as well. Ifeanyi Matthew's technical enforcing and also Onyedika's smooth CDM swagger. These added to Iwobi's AM brain, Ndidi's midfield enforcer traits and Onyeka's BTL CM role (only when paired with a proper CDM with a holding MF profile or a genuine DLP) will see our middle game dynamics uplifted beyond compare on the continent. Lastly Barryseal is partly right. I knock Peseiro coz he is crap but the players also deserve huge knocks for not winning against these minnows. The players play like they don't have any fight in them. But this is also down to the atmosphere the coach brings to the team. So somehow, It is still a Peseiro thing. He is the disease and no wonder some of the players wants him to stay on. because he condones their unseriousness. This man šš½ gotta go. 9 Likes 3 Shares
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:46pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Tobichimezie: 1. Not saying much except JPes has to f**king go and NOW! But reality is we are still stuck with him till the Afcon. 2. Pitso Mosimane would be my first choice among the Local Africa choices. But he is engaged in the Arab world making expensive money. After him, Emmanuel Amunike is my next choice and then Samson Siasia (SiaOne) who is still banned from football till next year. Reality again is NFF WONT TALK TO ANY OF THEM. WE ARE STUCK WITH JPES FOR THE NEXT 3 MONTHS 3. Would happen if the NFF does make that right step so for now it won't. 4. Can only discuss this if we bring in that sound coach the team deserves and Most importantly, NEEDS. 5. Same point as made in 4. All nice points but let me snap you back to reality. Jpes is not going anywhere till after the Afcon. NFF should please TRULY shock me for once and prove me wrong. 3 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 8:47pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
codemaniacs: We conceded from set-pieces and not open play.And most of these have been as a result of bad goal keeping and poor defending. In as much as we are struggling to score, we should not also be letting in goals like basket. Everything boils down to the coach. He promotes mediocrity. Bench is supposed to be for non performers but our coach prefers to reward mediocrity. While it's ok to defend your players publicly, JP should have benched Uzoho and any player that makes mistakes. That way you build seriousness and discipline. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 8:53pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
TheSuperNerd: Prefectly said. If I saw this post before my last post, i would not have posted it. You said it as it is. Westerholf, Keshi, Siasia won't condone this nonsense. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 8:55pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
codemaniacs: The bolded is a total misyarn and bull crap When you have only attackers creating chances for their fellow attackers thereās a problem When you have only iwobi being the creative mind in the midfield thereās a problem When you have 1 assist as his only highlight in 4 previous matches thereās a problem When you donāt know your best cb pairing thereās a problem Weāre playing against average teams that canāt hold the ball weāre struggling, what happens when we qualify for World Cup and meet a team of our caliber or higher Then itāll end with at least we try na 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:58pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
TheSuperNerd: Iwobi suffer for that match cos he was the most selfless in both games. He still cover for Collins again when that one don forget his primary duty š¤£ What is super annoying right now is they can't fire him cos of the outstanding salaries. Besides what's this Sports Ministry talk I'm hearing? NFF seem to be useless. Smh |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 8:59pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
mank1234: Bad goalkeeping and bad defending are a result of lean midfield and offensive players not dropping deep to help defense and midfield. Sports and football is played to take advantage of bad defending or to make the opponents make mistakes then pounce on the mistake. The SE concedes because the opponents know how to make the SE players make mistakes and also know that the SE players have a lackadaisical attitude. These are the same players and same formation Rohr, Eguavoen used so JP is not the person picking the players and formation. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 9:03pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
With the way things are going right now the fault doesnāt lie alone with the coach nada When these players stop playing as friends and start playing like personnelās then weāll see a Jump in improvement. Because you can complain to your friend but never criticize deeply in a way thatāll hurt to strive for change and thatās what weāre lacking Like this none of our boys will make a guardiola team because theyāre too inconsistent, From first touches to short passes way too inconsistent 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by princeabdul(m): 9:07pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
NFF hired a coach they can't pay, imagine not being able to pay a rubbish and nuisance coach from Portugal šµš¹ š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 9:09pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Joebie:you people clamoring for Oliseh forget things too easily. Forget his off-field antics for a while and watch our games with Chad and Tanzania under him 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 9:11pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe:if the coach is Nigerian Iām sure people will be here telling us that Uzoho is splitting his wages with the coach 8 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 9:13pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Odunayaw:I think I like the technique they used, Aribo should have done better with that chance 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 9:14pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Instead for the coach to experiment with players during the friendly, he ended up using osimhen who should have been on the bench while he tries other players. Now he's saying he missed osimhen. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 9:21pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
typicalgamer: In Liverpool, apart from the fullbacks the attackers create chances for each other so you're the one saying bull crap. Iwobi is usually the only midfielder on the pitch so yes he will be the only creative mind in midfield because he is the only midfielder. Only 1 assist proves my point on attackers and fullbacks been the ones to create chances and Iwobi is not a Bruno Fernandez or Jude Bellingham type of midfielder. If the strikers and midfielders don't drop deep to help the defenders then no CB pairing will ever work and that's why the SE has been conceding the same type of goals with different CB pairing. SE players don't also know how to hold ball that's why they concede goals.. Portugal have already shown SE what would happen if we play higher rank teams when they beat SE 4 - 0. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 9:26pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Barryseal:nothing do the players, get a quality coach. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 9:37pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
codemaniacs: It seems youāre high on cheap wine Because heās the only midfielder on the pitch it means all finish passes must pass solely through him How deluded are you ? From full backs to center backs to wingers All of them should be able to do what iwobi does to a degree Saying i wonāt score because Iām a defender is pure foolishness Saying i canāt drop a pinpoint pass when the need arises because Iām a cb is pure ludacris What are they on the field for if they canāt thread the needle with a pass ? Iwobi is not a cdm nor a Cb nor a Rb but within a 90mins frame he covers those positions upto 5 times each So heāll say Iām not a cb I wonāt close out the open man Bros youāre slow youāre slow youāre slow Arnold shouldnāt bring in dead balls because itās meant for only midfielders Marcelo wonāt dribble because itās meant for only attackers Theo Hernandez wonāt overlap because itās meant for only wingbacks Bros youāre slow some of you need to be screen out of here |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 9:43pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Tactically our CBs are limited Positioning theyāre poor Going forward our LB/RB have limited arsenal going forward and pinpoint crosses from them is 30/70% being accurate. Wingers decision making na god go help us, all of them are poor from dead ball Attackers too inconsistent thatās all |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 9:59pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
typicalgamer: You're the one that's slow. You're putting words in my mouth that I never said you lack intelligence and suffer from low self-esteem. I am the one that said fullbacks and wingers are chance creators and are the ones who assist. Your dumb and dull brain said " When you have only attackers creating chances for their fellow attackers thereās a problem". Now you're changing your words because you know you're saying nonsense and rubbish. You're a child using childish antics to deceive yourself that you have sense but you're a senseless fool. You can't even come up with your own ideas you have to steal my own ideas and use it against me you're very stupid and dull. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by M7even(m): 10:03pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Tessyy1701: There are no end to this logic. We can also ask who led Nigeria and Ghana to the last AFCON. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 10:21pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
codemaniacs: Go go Gaga Iām a child yippee š Thatās why i donāt chat with old heads like your keep your peace This energy i no get am |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 10:38pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
jihday:Very effective technique. I was thinking Aribo would blast it in baba went for a soft kick. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:15pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Danielnino00: Agreed without question |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by princeabdul(m): 12:01am On Nov 21, 2023 |
typicalgamer:We need a good manager chief, we've had vulcanizer managing the SE, Don't switch the blame. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by princeabdul(m): 12:02am On Nov 21, 2023 |
codemaniacs:the last line though, sir did you wrote that with your eyes closed? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by princeabdul(m): 12:07am On Nov 21, 2023 |
Mujtahida:most people don't know much about football, they just want to talk. He's suggesting the invitation of more players without stating the position that need to be strengthened |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 1:36am On Nov 21, 2023 |
komekn:In hot African sun & high altitudes in East Africa I hope so lol |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 1:57am On Nov 21, 2023 |
On a more positive note, Iheanacho seems to be in good form for the Super Eagles. He scored a beautiful goal against Saudi Arabia, had a great match against Sao Tome, got an assist against Lesotho and scored against Zimbabwe. He was directly involved in both goals scored in our last two matches against Lesotho and Zimbabwe. Senior man Kels ššŖšŖ 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 3:58am On Nov 21, 2023 |
Our squad has the potential to win the AFCON, with much depending on Coach Paserio's decisions. In the match against Mozambique, Paserio selected Onyedika, Onyeka, and Aribo for the midfield, resulting in a robust performance. Despite Mozambique's early score, Onyeka's attempts on goal and Onyedika's assist for Moffi's goal, followed by another stunning goal from Onyeka, demonstrated the team's capabilities. The Onyedika-Onyeka partnership brought vigor and control to the midfield, enabling effective ball recovery and maintaining possession upfront, thanks to Aribo's skills. This match should have highlighted to Paserio that Onyeka excels when relieved of defensive duties, given his superior long-range shooting skills. In future lineups, Onyedika should be a consistent starter, especially when Ndidi is unavailable. The deep-lying role should see Onyeka, Nwakali, and Aribo competing, while Iwobi, who lacks defensive and long-passing capabilities, would be better suited to an attacking midfielder position. The strategy of pairing strikers, who are capable of leading the forward line independently, can lead to confusion and a weakened midfield. Soccer requires a balance and strategic organization, which goes beyond simply assigning multiple strikers. In terms of midfield options, for me Nwakali is the only one needed! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:27am On Nov 21, 2023 |
Marjoribanks: If Kelechi Nwakali is not in the team, Iwobi has to play the deep lying role. Not Aribo or Onyeka. At least Iwobi has the technical ability to lay through passes. I don't see that in Onyeka and Aribo. Either way, the team needs Kelechi Nwakali. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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