Miracle Gone Wrong” – Nigerian lady suffocate to death after pastor placed speaker on her stomach to perform miracle so she can conceive Controversial South African pastor, Lethebo Rabalango, has allegedly killed one of his members after he put a speaker on top of her body to prove God’s power. According to news making the rounds, the girl died following internal injuries she sustained.

The pastor and founder of Mount Zion General Assembly had organised a night of worship at his church in Polokwane on Friday, where he was teaching about demonstration of power in which he emphasized that if Jesus walked on water, he too could do anything with faith, Jacaranda FM, South Africa’s independent radio station learnt. Pastor brutally flogged female church member for being late to Sunday service However, the unfortunate incident played out when he invited a girl from the praise team and asked her to lie down.

He then ordered ushers to carry a big speaker and put on her stomach saying the weight would not harm her. Rabalango climbed on top of the speaker, adding pressure to allegedly suffocate the girl who reports say remained quite as she had already passed out. Afterwards, the pastor reportedly sat on top of the speaker which was still on the girl’s stomach for close five minutes, he got up and ordered removal of the speaker, but the girl could not rise. The pastor was said to have blamed the girl and accused her of having little faith for she could not withstand a task he referred to a simple.

The Niger

The black man and the madness they call casting/binding
Exorcism
Set of backwards people

Boondocxs:
The black man and the madness they call casting/binding
Exorcism
Set of backwards people

Casting and Binding what illusions.

The black man and the madness they call casting/binding
Exorcism
Set of backwards people
I’m appalled

Mumu

Kobojunkie:
Casting and Binding what illusions.

It’s really painful
Who has done us this things really
That we can’t think for ourself we’ve surrendered our brains in exchange for illusions
It’s really sad

The white men that brought us the religion knew say we must pass anything.

Boondocxs:

It’s really painful
Who has done us this things really
That we can’t think for ourself we’ve surrendered our brains in exchange for illusions
It’s really sad

Indaboski shakabah soft drinks and meat pies for 1billiion plus for 3 months

Boondocxs:

It’s really painful
Who has done us this things really
That we can’t think for ourself we’ve surrendered our brains in exchange for illusions
It’s really sad

Nigerians did it to themselves actually. I personally observed the change in people around me over time and realized it is all a response to fears and anxieties of life. For that reason, two things I believe are necessary to free the mind from religious delusions and they are :
A. mental health therapy and..
B. Mental reorientation or a refocusing the mind so it becomes able to logical reason its existence.

Kobojunkie:
Nigerians did it to themselves actually. I personally observed the change in people around me over time and realized it is all a response to fears and anxieties life. For that reason, two things I believe are necessary to free the mind from religious delusions are mental health therapy and a cause in logical reasoning.

Well I believe it’s all part of the black man evolution
Very soon the scales would fall from our eyes and we would realize we’ve been played
Then the progress starts

Boondocxs:
■ Well I believe it’s all part of the black man evolution
Very soon the scales would fall from our eyes and we would realize we’ve been played
Then the progress starts

Evolution? We dey in the middle of information age and scales still dey stuck on... so what else is out there to cause those scales to eventually fall? When?

Kobojunkie:
Evolution? We dey in the middle of information age and scales still dey stuck on... so what else is out there to cause those scales to eventually fall? When?

It’s gradual
If you notice people and more people are beginning to see the scam that religion is
So they just flourish by themselves and do their things without weight of any religion restrictions
A lot more people are informed than you give credit for

Boondocxs:
■ It’s gradual If you notice people and more people are beginning to see the scam that religion is
So they just flourish by themselves and do their things without weight of any religion restrictions
A lot more people are informed than you give credit for

Seeing religion as a scam does not necessarily mean one is free from the delusion. Look at the average Nigerian who claims to be an atheist for instance. They say they don't regard God but do they necessarily reason better than the average religious nut jobs in Nigeria?

This problem goes behold actively holding on to an established religious delusion abeg!

Kobojunkie:
Seeing religion as a scam does not necessarily mean one is free from the delusion. Look at the average Nigerian who claims to be an atheist for instance. They say they don't regard God but do they necessarily reason better than the average religious nut jobs in Nigeria?

This problem goes behold actively holding on to an established religious delusion abeg!

But the delusions are borne from religion
I don’t think Africans yet understand what the white mans religion has done to us
Instead of changing things with our hand we would instead pray from morning till night in hopes it will magically change
It’s disgusting behavior
We pray for every little thing man every little effing thing man
I hope one day Africans can see that there’s nobody who’s going to come down from the sky and save you

Boondocxs:
■ But the delusions are borne from religion
I don’t think Africans yet understand what the white mans religion has done to us
Instead of changing things with our hand we would instead pray from morning till night in hopes it will magically change
It’s disgusting behavior
■ We pray for every little thing man every little effing thing man. I hope one day Africans can see that there’s nobody who’s going to come down from the sky and save you

It isn't the white man's religion that did this to Africans. Rather Africans did it to themselves. Religion is just one of the many tools we used in shackling previously broken minds. That is why I suggested that the cure is mental treatment and a complete reorientation in the other to logically processing reality and life in general.

2. Fear is the reason behind all of that.

Amusing albeit preventable death.

Pressed speakers on her stomach. She too dey look

I saw the pictures on fb.She was ttc mother.

Na mumu dey follow pastor nah. She don see wetin she dey find. To h£ll with her

Kobojunkie:
Nigerians did it to themselves actually. I personally observed the change in people around me over time and realized it is all a response to fears and anxieties of life. For that reason, two things I believe are necessary to free the mind from religious delusions and they are :
A. mental health therapy and..
B. Mental reorientation or a refocusing the mind so it becomes able to logical reason its existence.

Junkie? You talking about logical reasoning? Wtf

jaephoenix:
Junkie? You talking about logical reasoning? Wtf

Do you know what it is?

Kobojunkie:
Do you know what it is?

Yes I do.
You being a theist takes away logical reasoning from you

jaephoenix:
■ Yes I do.
You being a theist takes away logical reasoning from you

Lol... this from one who argues against logic all day long ?

Logic isn't against belief in God or the having a master or the bowing to a overarching Constitution. That you assume it to be means you don't even begin to understand it.

Kobojunkie:
Lol... this from one who argues against logic all day long ?

Logic isn't against belief in God or the having a master or the bowing to a overarching Constitution. That you assume it to be means you don't even begin to understand it.

Logical reasoning includes coming to conclusions with facts. When you believe in a higher being, are you being logical? Lets start with this one

jaephoenix:

Logical reasoning includes coming to conclusions with facts. When you believe in a higher being, are you being logical? Lets start with this one

Again, Logic isn't against belief in God or the having a master or the bowing to a overarching Constitution. That you assume it to be means you don't even begin to understand it.

Kobojunkie:
Again, Logic isn't against belief in God or the having a master or the bowing to a overarching Constitution. That you assume it to be means you don't even begin to understand it.

Maybe you have comprehension issues. Lemme break it down.
I have to get a detailed explanation of logic for you, maybe your brain would crank open a bit.
Logical (Deductive) Reasoning
Logical or deductive reasoning involves using a given set of facts or data to deduce other facts by reasoning logically. It involves drawing specific conclusions based on premises
Lets put your belief under the microscope of logic.
I believe in god
Question 1. What is a god?
A god is a supernatural being with supernatural powers(according to dictionaries).
Question 2. Why do you believe in god?
You obviously do this cos you were taught both by your family and society that you just have to believe in god. And not just any god, but a specific one. If you were in India, it would probably be Brahma. If you are in Nigeria, Allah or Yahweh.
Question 3. Is there any evidence of a god?
This is where the problem usually begins. If there is a god or gods, they have done a fine job of hiding from their subjects or creations. Creations they promised to reveal themselves to and also creations they promised they would punish if they don't believe they exist(even though they reneged on their promises of revealing themselves to those creations.
Thus there is no evidence these god(s) exist except on books written by their adherents. Now these books say these gods exist. Would you believe Harry Potter exists because JK Rowlings says so in her books? And in fact, the said book(Bible) has been found to contain many lies and contradictions. Check out
https://www.nairaland.com/7659505/book-bible-gaffes
Question 4. So where is the premise of your belief?
This is where logic steps in. You believe in a certain god which has been shown not to exist. You even live your life based on what the god supposedly wants. You believe because of faith. Now faith is problematic. Why? Faith bred many religions. They all have faith their specific gods exist. And would attack you if you say otherwise. Faith is the opposite of fact. Its based on what may be, not what is.
Thus you are logically incorrect by claiming to be a theist

jaephoenix:
■ Maybe you have comprehension issues. Lemme break it down.
I have to get a detailed explanation of logic for you, maybe your brain would crank open a bit.
Logical (Deductive) Reasoning
Logical or deductive reasoning involves using a given set of facts or data to deduce other facts by reasoning logically. It involves drawing specific conclusions based on premises
Lets put your belief under the microscope of logic.
I believe in god
Question 1. What is a god?
A god is a supernatural being with supernatural powers(according to dictionaries).
Question 2. Why do you believe in god?
You obviously do this cos you were taught both by your family and society that you just have to believe in god. And not just any god, but a specific one. If you were in India, it would probably be Brahma. If you are in Nigeria, Allah or Yahweh.
Question 3. Is there any evidence of a god?
This is where the problem usually begins. If there is a god or gods, they have done a fine job of hiding from their subjects or creations. Creations they promised to reveal themselves to and also creations they promised they would punish if they don't believe they exist(even though they reneged on their promises of revealing themselves to those creations.
Thus there is no evidence these god(s) exist except on books written by their adherents. Now these books say these gods exist. Would you believe Harry Potter exists because JK Rowlings says so in her books? And in fact, the said book(Bible) has been found to contain many lies and contradictions. Check out
https://www.nairaland.com/7659505/book-bible-gaffes
Question 4. So where is the premise of your belief?
This is where logic steps in. You believe in a certain god which has been shown not to exist. You even live your life based on what the god supposedly wants. You believe because of faith. Now faith is problematic. Why? Faith bred many religions. They all have faith their specific gods exist. And would attack you if you say otherwise. Faith is the opposite of fact. Its based on what may be, not what is.
Thus you are logically incorrect by claiming to be a theist

***yawn***

Kobojunkie:
***yawn***

Exactly

jaephoenix:

Exactly

You should have tried to find out about kobojunkie before engaging her in discussion.

I am not saying anyone has mental wellbeing issues but there are posters on this platform whose personal issues have definitely overwhelmed them and it shows.

aswani:


You should have tried to find out about kobojunkie before engaging her in discussion.

I am not saying anyone has mental wellbeing issues but there are posters on this platform whose personal issues have definitely overwhelmed them and it shows.

I know about junkie and her struggles, but I thought she said she has been on therapy. I don't usually read her posts but recently I started reading them, but I have realized the therapy didn’t work. Or she has relapsed. Either way, aint reading her posts again or engaging her

jaephoenix:

Question 3. Is there any evidence of a god?
This is where the problem usually begins. If there is a god or gods, they have done a fine job of hiding from their subjects or creations....

This thread proves you are a Liar for we gave evidence then you shifted post.

https://www.nairaland.com/7891795/does-god-exist/34#126972560

jaephoenix:

I know about junkie and her struggles, but I thought she said she has been on therapy. I don't usually read her posts but recently I started reading them, but I have realized the therapy didn’t work. Or she has relapsed. Either way, aint reading her posts again or engaging her

You know what, I genuinely didn't realise kobojunkie had admitted to whatever issues she had and consequently gone into therapy you know.

Whether or not she reads this, I apologise to her for my behaviour towards her.

I hope she finds her peace somewhere and soon because underneath it all is a decent human being looking for a conversation like me.

One more kobojunkie, I apologise. Stay safe and stay healthy please.