igwebuike01:


African Magic bro. That's the real Nollywood know in Africa not streaming platforms

Africa gini?

How much will Africa magic generate when we are talking of reach and revenue from streaming platforms like Netflix and movie centers?

Some Nigerian movies are even being premiered in USA movie theaters now and you get the revenue in $$.

How many people watch Africa magic compared to the number on Prime/Netflix and etc?

You don’t know what you are saying walahi.

igwebuike01:

You really think every body is urban dwellers. Na Igbo movies on African Magic de penetrate local areas all over Africa

What is the number of people in local areas and how they they give you revenue to make you achieve success in your movie?

Which would you pick?

—A deal to premiere Netflix original for your movie?

—Deal on Africa magic TV to for poor people in Africa?

Do you know why Nigerian artists don’t perform again in Nigeria? It is because one performance in USA alone is enough to cover for 500 performance they do in any African country.

When Davido came to ATL few week ago, I spent like $200 for just me and the person I took there. And that’s not even the most priced ticket.

Thats 200k from two people and you have a Statefarm arena venue that fit collect over 18k + people.

Do you think Davido will make that amount in his lifetime performing for villagers in Africa?

LegendHero:


Africa gini?

How much will Africa magic generate when we are talking of reach and revenue from streaming platforms like Netflix and movie centers?

Some Nigerian movies are even being premiered in USA movie theaters now and you get the revenue in $$.

How many people watch Africa magic compared to the number on Prime/Netflix and etc?

You don’t know what you are saying walahi.

Go to remote village in any part of Africa and ask about Nollywood. Igbo movies is what everybody knows as Nollywood.

LegendHero:


What is the number of people in local areas and how they they give you revenue to make you achieve success in your movie?

Which would you pick?

—A deal to premiere Netflix original for your movie?

—Deal on Africa magic TV to for poor people in Africa?

Do you know why Nigerian artists don’t perform again in Nigeria? It is because one performance in USA alone is enough to cover for 500 performance they do in any African country.

When Davido came to ATL few week ago, I spent like $200 for just me and the person I took there. And that’s not even the most priced ticket.

Thats 200k from two people and you have a Statefarm arena venue that fit collect over 18k + people.

Do you think Davido will make that amount in his lifetime performing for villagers in Africa?

It's not about revenue from one movie, it's about general revenue from the industry

igwebuike01:

Go to remote village in any part of Africa and ask about Nollywood. Igbo movies is what everybody knows as Nollywood.

Why should I go to Africa village before I know this simple data driven info?

igwebuike01:

It's not about revenue from one movie, it's about general revenue from the industry

A movie is part of the generic revenue.

It’s is a cumulative. If you make 50k movies today and you only generate 10million from it & you make just 200 movies and generate the same amount, which industry would you rate as the best?

Whether by number of movies, whether by revenue, the Yorubas are still at the very top.

I don’t know what you’re talking about tho. Maybe Kunle Afolayan should buy Keke NAPEP and be selling his CDs in Africa remote village to be notorious then.

LegendHero:


Why should I go to Africa village before I know this simple data driven info?

We have different catchment areas in mind. When Japan started making cars it was rejected in Europe but they tageted lower income groups. Today they remain highest car exporters yet they don't have expensive luxury cars

LegendHero:


A movie is part of the generic revenue.

It’s is a cumulative. If you make 50k movies today and you only generate 10million from it & you make just 200 movies and generate the same amount, which industry would you rate as the best?

Whether by number of movies, whether by revenue, the Yorubas are still at the very top.

I don’t know what you’re talking about tho. Maybe Kunle Afolayan should buy Keke NAPEP and be selling his CDs in Africa remote village to be notorious then.

Una no Sabi business forget. High revenue from one quality movie doesn't make you better. The low quality movies Igbos focus on have general revenue but you won't understand

igwebuike01:


We have different catchment areas in mind. When Japan started making cars it was rejected in Europe but they tageted lower income groups. Today they remain highest car exporters yet they don't have expensive luxury cars

If we are having this conversation in 2007, I will say you are correct.

But bro this is 2023, it’s only an illiterate economist that will continue to target low income earners when he has the bandwidth to target the high end market simultaneously.

We are Yoruba, with the right environment, we will playing global and not local. Even our old musicians have always played on a larger global scale.

This comparison with cars is not the same as movies. Do you think Innoson target poor people for his sales? How will he even reach break even if he did that?

igwebuike01:

Una no Sabi business forget. High revenue from one quality movie doesn't make you better. The low quality movies Igbos focus on have general revenue but you won't understand

lol 😂 at this point it’s obvious you’re just pulling my legs.

igwebuike01:


We have different catchment areas in mind. When Japan started making cars it was rejected in Europe but they tageted lower income groups. Today they remain highest car exporters yet they don't have expensive luxury cars

Let me give you another analogy.

Because you have Netflix, Prime, movies and etc now, it’s better you create movies that appeal to that base. It is a case of using a platform that is there to speed up your success.

Take Innoson/Nord for example, they are now assembling cars and building some part for themselves using technology that is already there while they sell to the rich class.

Innoson did not say that because he wants to appeal to villagers, he will now start creating vehicle made out of wood and rubber so as to mass produce it to low income earners.

LegendHero:


If we are having this conversation in 2007, I will say you are correct.

But bro this is 2023, it’s only an illiterate economist that will continue to target low income earners when he has the bandwidth to target the high end market simultaneously.

We are Yoruba, with the right environment, we will playing global and not local. Even our old musicians have always played on a larger global scale.

This comparison with cars is not the same as movies. Do you think Innoson target poor people for his sales? How will he even reach break even if he did that?

You lack native intelligence. Always rushing to global stage. Even your music domination claim is based on international visibility not quality

igwebuike01:

You lack native intelligence. Always rushing to global stage. Even your music domination claim is based on international visibility not quality

You’re not the one that’ll tell me about intelligence. I’ve reached a level in life that it’ll take someone so ignorant to question my intellect.

Global stage is the main goal of every civilization. The world is fast moving and there are lot of inter connectivity. Anyone still stuck within his local framework won’t be able to meet up with his peers whether in movie, music, or any industry.

Lol, you call Afro beat “lacking quality”? I don’t know if you live in the West, but if you move out and see how people are accepting Nigeria music and major lounges, restaurants, radio, clubs, and etc jamming Nigeria music, you will NEVER say it lack quality.

If you sau we don’t have lyrics, I will agree. But this century music is not about lyrics anymore, it is the vibe and acceptability.

That’s why even ordinary amapiano beat without voice will sell O2 arena.

adamusuleiman1:

Na Cinema, YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Prime, and other streaming sites dey reign now.

No more upper iweka or ebi pa ejo lane

Ebi " family " npe " are " Jo " gathered ".
Not ebi * hunger " npa " waya " ejo " snake "

LegendHero:


lol Asgard, you are still living in year 2001.

This is 2023, who gives a feck about other smaller African countries when men are now taking their film to the movies, YouTube, Netflix, and other streaming platforms.

You think we are still in the era of home video or what? How much will you make by selling your CD in Congo for example when you can take in millions instantly by premiering on Netflix?

Go and check the highest grossing movies out of Nigeria, that lies your answer.

You know what gave Yoruba the edge in movie industry? It is technology and fairness. If you remove fraud from any system, it will be hard for an Igbo man to compete.

Before the outburst of Kunle Afolayan some years ago on some Igbo pirates who use fraud to game producers, pirate their CDs, and then try to gag them even at the producing side, it used to just be business as usual. When movies started to digitize, it got really hard for those fraudulent pirates to steal people life investment so things flourish coz people now go to streaming platform and movies and money get to the actual producer removing the menace of piracy.

During elections, you all imbeciles said that the larger electorates are illiterates that do not use the internet. But here you are, as the two faced treacherous beings you all are, suddenly now claims that everyone is a literate who watches Netflix and YouTubes.
Lying tongues have a special place in hell.

2elliot:
During elections, you all imbeciles said that the larger electorates are illiterates that do not use the internet. But here you are, as the two faced treacherous beings you all are, suddenly now claims that everyone is a literate who watches Netflix and YouTubes.
Lying tongues have a special place in hell.

Lol. You caught him there

LegendHero:


You’re not the one that’ll tell me about intelligence. I’ve reached a level in life that it’ll take someone so ignorant to question my intellect.

Global stage is the main goal of every civilization. The world is fast moving and there are lot of inter connectivity. Anyone still stuck within his local framework won’t be able to meet up with his peers whether in movie, music, or any industry.

Lol, you call Afro beat “lacking quality”? I don’t know if you live in the West, but if you move out and see how people are accepting Nigeria music and major lounges, restaurants, radio, clubs, and etc jamming Nigeria music, you will NEVER say it lack quality.

If you sau we don’t have lyrics, I will agree. But this century music is not about lyrics anymore, it is the vibe and acceptability.

That’s why even ordinary amapiano beat without voice will sell O2 arena.

Yorubas in general lack native intelligence not you in particular. It was a respected Yoruba elder statesman that said it. What is 02 Arena? To an Igboman his village primary school Field is greater than 02 Arena

igwebuike01:

Yorubas in general lack native intelligence not you in particular. It was a respected Yoruba elder statesman that said it. What is 02 Arena? To an Igboman his village primary school Field is greater than 02 Arena

I love your own kind of native intelligence. It is best expressed as turning truth on its head.

I even forgot to tell you. I Legendhero am the richest man in the world, I just don’t like making noise.

Odin13:



Oga how many people know those movies and actors in Nigeria talk more African countries .

Nigeria movies sell more in African countries

Travel una go gree.. na to the sell propaganda like Amala up and Dan

Call it mushroom movies .. who cares..

At least without those nolly wood .. gallyhood no for exist..

But Yoruba have been travelling even when your forebears were still roaming the bush n@ked. While you travel come to Lagos/SW and feel on top of the world, Yoruba travel to Europe and America.

LegendHero:


I love your own kind of native intelligence. It is best expressed as turning truth on its head.

I even forgot to tell you. I Legendhero am the richest man in the world, I just don’t like making noise.

Lol. This leads us to another topic. When they tell you Igbos are the richest tribe now you start showing Forbes list. They said richest tribe not tribe with richest first ten

Raf4:


But Yoruba have been travelling even when your forebears were still roaming the bush n@ked. While you travel come to Lagos/SW and feel on top of the world, Yoruba travel to Europe and America.

Another mumu without native intelligence I have been talking about. While you don't travel more than Igbos to Europe and America, note that Igbos don't see those places as superior. Traveling to London is as good as travelling to Maiduguri to an igbo man, what matters is to travel where is suitable for your business

igwebuike01:

Lol. This leads us to another topic. When they tell you Igbos are the richest tribe now you start showing Forbes list. They said richest tribe not tribe with richest first ten

That is because you’ve not shown me data especially when you re-echo IPOB bureau of statistics.

I can say Yorubas are the richest ethnic group in the world. In my village, people will cheer me on but if I say that in the gathering of intellectuals, they will ask me for data before they accept it.

Anytime I see anyone parrot Igbo are the richest, I just take the person for a comedian learning how what to say to make people laugh the most. Except if it’s Igbo in planet Mars and not the one we are all seeing in Nigeria.

igwebuike01:

Another mumu without native intelligence I have been talking about. While you don't travel more than Igbos to Europe and America, note that Igbos don't see those places as superior. Traveling to London is as good as travelling to Maiduguri to an igbo man, what matters is to travel where is suitable for your business

You’ve started another lies.

Yoruba travel more to USA and Western Europe generally than any other Nigeria ethnic group.

Me I don’t just talk, I can back everything I say with datapoint.

If you say China, India, and other parts of Europe now, I won’t even waste my time arguing with you that Igbos are more in those area.

Even in Nordic countries, Yoruba people travel there most.

LegendHero:


That is because you’ve not shown me data especially when you re-echo IPOB bureau of statistics.

I can say Yorubas are the richest ethnic group in the world. In my village, people will cheer me on but if I say that in the gathering of intellectuals, they will ask me for data before they accept it.

Anytime I see anyone parrot Igbo are the richest, I just take the person for a comedian learning how what to say to make people laugh the most. Except if it’s Igbo in planet Mars and not the one we are all seeing in Nigeria.

Una de believe data?
Even education Data puts Igbo ahead but you will start mentioning university ranking or other silly data. You don't pay attention to middle level, that's your problem

igwebuike01:

Una de believe data?
Even education Data puts Igbo ahead but you will start mentioning university ranking or other silly data. You don't pay attention to middle level, that's your problem

Yes based on this data, it shows the Yoruba have the highest number of rich and middle class.

You know why? It’s because the data is presented as a percentage. If you check the population stats, the SW have larger population than the South East.

So if 67.8% of the SE population is tagged as rich, then judging from population number, we have more rich Yorubas based on the 67.3% when you factor in the whole number.


Thank God I’m using your own data to reach the conclusion.

LegendHero:


Yes based on this data, it shows the Yoruba have the highest number of rich and middle class.

You know why? It’s because the data is presented as a percentage. If you check the population stats, the SW have larger population than the South East.

So if 67.8% of the SE population is tagged as rich, then judging from population number, we have more rich Yorubas based on the 67.3% when you factor in the whole number.


Thank God I’m using your own data to reach the conclusion.

SW population is not yoruba population. The data shows that the gap in wealth is very wide if SE alone can record such. Rich Igbos outside SE added will increase the gap wider

igwebuike01:

SW population is not yoruba population. The data shows that the gap in wealth is very wide if SE alone can record such. Rich Igbos outside SE added will increase the gap wider

Lol. Now you’re turning logic on its head.

Everything domiciled within the SW will be counted as her GDP, household, riches, and poverty and that includes the assets and liabilities.

Poor Igbos, Hausas, Kanuri, Fulanis, Ijaw, Itsekiri, and etc that live in the SW are also counted as part of the poor people in the SW. why did you not factor that in the metrics?

Don’t commit intellectual dishonesty. Just as we have poor Ibos living in the SW, we have rich Hausas living in the SW and they ALL count. No one use rope to drag them to live in the West.

LegendHero:


Lol. Now you’re turning logic on its head.

Everything domiciled within the SW will be counted as her GDP, household, riches, and poverty and that includes the assets and liabilities.

Poor Igbos, Hausas, Kanuri, Fulanis, Ijaw, Itsekiri, and etc that live in the SW are also counted as part of the poor people in the SW. why did you not factor that in the metrics?

Don’t commit intellectual dishonesty. Just as we have poor Ibos living in the SW, we have rich Hausas living in the SW and they ALL count. No one use rope to drag them to live in the West.

Igbos are largest non indegenous population all over Nigeria, their mastery of trade create huge rich and middle class. Of course there are poor Igbos in SW but the rich and middle class are larger by far, the fact they have it among those left at home means they even have more among their sojourners

igwebuike01:

Another mumu without native intelligence I have been talking about. While you don't travel more than Igbos to Europe and America, note that Igbos don't see those places as superior. Traveling to London is as good as travelling to Maiduguri to an igbo man, what matters is to travel where is suitable for your business

Cracked head, shey you know that you igbos travel for economic survival? Abi how will about 30million of you confined in a 5 acres of barren land called SE survive without migrating to other people's land to seek economic asylum?

Raf4:


Cracked head, shey you know that you igbos travel for economic survival? Abi how will about 30million of you confined in a 5 acres of barren land called SE survive without migrating to other people's land to seek economic asylum?

Sir, sorry to say but you do not need to bring in derogatory word or tribal slur.
The thread has been matured enough an we all have been enjoying the back and forth from @igwebuike01 and @LegendHero which so far has been based on facts, sentiments and whatnots but devoid of tribal slur and derogatory statements which is now the trend on this forum.

Pls sir lets maintain decorum and let us learn to make our opinion known without instigating others. You know our comment are more beautiful and makes more sense if they are devoid of tribal slurs. one love bro .

@igwebuike01 and @LegendHero carry go my ogas, nomatter who found what and who gross in more, what matter is Nigeria to the world.

Raf4:


Cracked head, shey you know that you igbos travel for economic survival? Abi how will about 30million of you confined in a 5 acres of barren land called SE survive without migrating to other people's land to seek economic asylum?

And what is bad with traveling for economic survival? I advise you to travel for economic survival too before the mudhouse you inherited from your great grandfather collapse on your head

LegendHero:


A movie is part of the generic revenue.

It’s is a cumulative. If you make 50k movies today and you only generate 10million from it & you make just 200 movies and generate the same amount, which industry would you rate as the best?

Whether by number of movies, whether by revenue, the Yorubas are still at the very top.

I don’t know what you’re talking about tho. Maybe Kunle Afolayan should buy Keke NAPEP and be selling his CDs in Africa remote village to be notorious then.

you are not ok. Igbos dominate nollywood now more than they dominate it before. It's just that the quality of storytelling has significantly reduced owing to proliferation of distribution channels.