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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by MT: 2:07pm On Nov 28, 2023
Nathan2016:


You made sense till the part i strike out.

Lagos state doesnt belong to Yoruba.

Lagos State belong to Nigeria. A state in a sovereign country doesent belong to a particular tribe.

Lagos state is a state in Nigeria. The indigenous people ( inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times ) in Lagos are the Yoruba.

So by your explanation, Anambra land does NOT belong to the Ibo

Benin Land does NOT belong to Edo people.

And Sokoto Land does NOT belong to the Hausas.

Why are they killing themselves off in Ukraine and Gaza.

Yorubas own Lagos State. Yorubas rule Lagos, collect taxes on it and determine how it is to be spent. Yorubas own the South West of the country. Lagos State is the heritage of all the Yorubas.

I ask again, if Nigeria should split along the tribal line, will the Ibo from Enugu refer to Lagos State as the capital or Northerners will lay claim to Lagos State. Will Yorubas claim Abuja, despite being the Capital of Nigeria from the Northerners or Yorubas will claim Owerri from Ibos?

Will Scottish people claim London, despite being the capital of UK, from English people or English people will claim Glasglow from the Scots, despite being in the UK together?

How some individuals reason will never stop to amaze me.

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by orisa37: 2:09pm On Nov 28, 2023
LAGOS BELONGS TO THE YORUBAS. BENIN OBA IS JUST JESTING.

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by ruffDiamond: 2:11pm On Nov 28, 2023
Both of them.. because up till now,I don't know what Eko mean in Yoruba and the use of word or title,such omo(a child)or sometime use affectionately in slang form for adult as well,for instance, common prefixes in bini names such as Omoregie,Omorodion,Omo- agege,,Omo-ikiroda etc, the word or title ,precisely Oba (king) and some other Yoruba words used by bini speaking people are in opinion, 💯 indigenous Yoruba Words and NOT bini undecided..the problem is those Fetish as fukk, Olosho exporting ,cultist infested people simply admitting that one of oduduwa sons FOUNDED Benin kingdom! instead,they twisted the narrative,came up with some funny sounding ,ear painingesoteric mumbo-jumbo,higi haga nonsense language or should I say dialect they called bini all in a futile bid to distance , fool , hoodwink the unsuspecting,unwary stranger or visitor that they have no LINK to Oduduwa undecided.. instead they a build a funny superpower kinda aura and myth around that man they called king, ordinary mornach.. somebody I can pass by without even looking twice!you go dey hear Oba ikpere!! ikpere!!ise!!! wetin be ise? Yoruba says Ase!,not ise!...iranu cheesy

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by orisa37: 2:11pm On Nov 28, 2023
LAGOS BELONGS TO THE YORUBAS. BENIN OBA IS JUST JESTING.


TINUBU SHOULD CHECKMATE THEM BY ADOPTING FAPRES FOTCS AND CTC FOCS TRFG.

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by seunmsg(m): 2:11pm On Nov 28, 2023
Isobug:

This is just all about igbos, nothing he thinks about but igbos Igbos igbos. Very self-centered bigoted lot

Go and check the comment i responded to.

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by seunmsg(m): 2:13pm On Nov 28, 2023
specialmati:
grin grin grin grin grin oba of Benin and oba of Lagos they drag origin you carry ojukwu and obi enter.where did you left your senses na

Ask your Igbo brother that dragged Tinubu into the matter.

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by specialmati(m): 2:14pm On Nov 28, 2023
seunmsg:


Ask your Igbo brother that dragged Tinubu into the matter.
grin grin grin grin grin so you want to show them that you are crazy or what.
Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by MT: 2:15pm On Nov 28, 2023
If other tribes covet Lagos State so much, they can also build something more magnificient that Lagos State in their regions.

This is what I call healthy rivalry.

By history, Yorubas see Edo people like their extended brothers and sisters bound together by blood but I recognise most Edo people prefer to be alone.

Yorubas respect their decisions and are not dragging that with them.

You can ONLY lay claim to Lagos State if you are a Yoruba.

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by Khyrvxjzy: 2:18pm On Nov 28, 2023
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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by ablejesus26(m): 2:20pm On Nov 28, 2023
seunmsg:


Absolute nonsese.

But why were you crying Igbo aaaghh, Igbo yooo,is the Oba of Benin Igbo grin

Oboy crying Igbo yooo, Igbo aaaghh is why your Oluda created You joor grin

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by TINUBUISMAD: 2:20pm On Nov 28, 2023
Khyrvxjzy:
joyandfaith


Igbodicool


phorget

bigpicture001

TINUBUISMAD

Chiefpriestt

Joy2dworldxyz


akou
E be like say too much ewedu don dey distort your senses abi?
Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by Stoplying: 2:21pm On Nov 28, 2023
Precolonial maps of Lagos have Benin written all over them:
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b/f1.item.r=Benin.zoom
This more than settles it. Lagos was a part of Benin.

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by Stoplying: 2:23pm On Nov 28, 2023
18th century map of Africa drawn by Emanuel Bowen:

Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by Stoplying: 2:24pm On Nov 28, 2023
Nigerians mostly suffer from cognitive dissonance. You are not interested in the truth, you just want your own biased and unfounded beliefs to become everybody's gospel.

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by Christistruth03: 2:24pm On Nov 28, 2023
MT:
Is this what we should be discussing?

I guess we should be talking about how each state will compete with themselves for greatness.

Which states in Nigeria look sane and organised right now?

Whoever created Lagos should not be an issue, Lagos State belong to the Yoruba.

If Nigeria should split along tribal line, will Ibo or Hausa or Benin come and make Lagos state part of their lands?


It has now reached the Stage for Yoruba people to Start learning the Yoruba Moba
Pre Oduduwa History of Lagos
Which is. Incredibly Massive


This is a good opportunity to reteach them including the Epic Yoruba History

Do you know there were moba Yoruba people in Lagos long before Oduduwa was born they had their own Kingdom
And the moba crown predates Oduduwa's own


If we tell them a little of the History of Yoruba Lagos if they have Conscience they will Shut up and beg for Forgiveness

There were Yorubas in Lagos long before Oduduwa was born
The first Oba of Ilesha fetched water from the sea at moba to Cure Oduduwa’s Blindness in the 10 th Century

moba is around Victoria Island
The moba crown Predates Oduduwa’s own it was some of theirPeople that Migrated to Otun Ekiti some are in Ijebu

The 9th Century 160km Eredo Wall near Ijebu was part of their Kingdom that reached the Sea and
Many Islands off the Coast of Lagos

most of the time they are Categorised with the Awori
but though they are now part of the Awori they were in Lagos Centuries Earlier

it was the Pre Oduduwa moba King called Seniade who idol Worshippers deified as Olokun
The Island he ruled from off the Coast of Lagos has now been submerged by the sea
And that was why his people moved to moba

If you see Ancient Yoruba Artifacts in South Africa from before Oduduwa was born Just know that it was moba People who took it there .
They ruled over a String of Islands and were experts in Travelling between Islands in the Atlantic Ocean

Can you see that if you think the History of Lagos Started with Oduduwa in the 10th Century you have not yet began


Sungbo Eredo Wall the UNESCO World heritage Site was built by the Yoruba Moba Pre Oduduwa People of whose Kingdom reached the Islands off the Coast of Lagos

Yoruba History is a God Given Epic




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7SXJzGuLM?si=r9vlK6L3Z4NEXAEn



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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by Jungleluv5: 2:25pm On Nov 28, 2023
Hunter Ogunfuminre founded Lagos when he came to hunt and he settled down at the bank of Riverside called Isheri river
Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by richie240: 2:26pm On Nov 28, 2023
You guys have already conscripted them into biafran colony nau, no one expects u not to stand with him.
grin
Zonefree:
I stand with Oba of Benin.

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by Babathanks(m): 2:26pm On Nov 28, 2023
orohbirodeysmel:
Las las Lagos na no man's land..

Benin first get am
Yoruba get am now...

In the future another tribe fit get am. A set of detribalized generation will rise and control Lagos in the future...Lagos will become a real Cosmopolitan city that no one will ever claim as his own or na him build am
Just dy play😂. Like as we Yoruba dy follow una claim anambra or Enugu or kaduna or Kano. Cos all this places are cosmopolitan city. How would a sensible person in is right sense come all the way from the east and south south and start claiming land in the west

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by dkidd: 2:27pm On Nov 28, 2023
Never4getU:


Ogun keel u and the Oba of Benin
Spell kill well na? U think say na like una useless Obas when no know their left from right? Condemn element undecided
Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by dkidd: 2:28pm On Nov 28, 2023
richie240:
You guys have already conscripted them into biafrans colony nau, no one expects u not to stand with him.
cool
Mad goat. Edo is not Biafra
Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by YoungBlackRico(m): 2:30pm On Nov 28, 2023
I don't know why people have time giving this things attention, let them continue claiming na
Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by Dengoh(m): 2:32pm On Nov 28, 2023
Yoruba, "RONU" the onslaught is real, everybody laying Claims to Lagos, not because of anything but its prosperity. They covet what you have.
This liberality will be costly.
Your children will become strangers in their own home.
Wake up!

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by Coronavirus1: 2:33pm On Nov 28, 2023
Ashipa, the founder of the Lagos royal dynasty but uncrowned as Oba of Lagos,[2] whom all Obas of Lagos trace their lineage to,[3] was an Awori Chieftain from Isheri. Ashipa was rewarded with title of Oloriogun (war chief) after returning the body of one Asheru, a Benin war captain to Benin[4][5] and received the Oba of Benin's sanction to govern Lagos.[6] Some Benin accounts of history have the Ashipa as son or grandson of the Oba of Benin.[7] According to the Lagos traditional account however, Ashípa (Yoruba: Aṣípa) was a local native, an Awori Yoruba chieftain of Isheri.
Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by Christistruth03: 2:35pm On Nov 28, 2023
dkidd:

Mad goat. Edo is not Biafra


According to Simon Ekpa it is

He has even appointed Governor for you

Not that we agree with him

His Elders just left him to be looking everywhere for Trouble for them
Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by Christistruth03: 2:38pm On Nov 28, 2023
Coronavirus1:
Ashipa, the founder of the Lagos royal dynasty but uncrowned as Oba of Lagos,[2] whom all Obas of Lagos trace their lineage to,[3] was an Awori Chieftain from Isheri. Ashipa was rewarded with title of Oloriogun (war chief) after returning the body of one Asheru, a Benin war captain to Benin[4][5] and received the Oba of Benin's sanction to govern Lagos.[6] Some Benin accounts of history have the Ashipa as son or grandson of the Oba of Benin.[7] According to the Lagos traditional account however, Ashípa (Yoruba: Aṣípa) was a local native, an Awori Yoruba chieftain of Isheri.


We have told them and told them and told them and told them

But they have a deliberate Conspiracy to distort the History of Lagos

They will tell you that Ado the first Oba of Lagos was a son of Oba of Benin

They deliberately refuse to tell you that Oba of Benin was his Maternal Grandfather because his mother was a Benin Princess while his father was the Ashipa of Isheri

Ashipa's family Compound were he left from is still in Isheri today
Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by richie240: 2:42pm On Nov 28, 2023
Tell that to ur lord: Simon Ekpa, not me.

dkidd:

Mad goat. Edo is not Biafra
He and Kanu were the one who forcefully conscripted Ndi-Binis into ndi-biafran colony, nor be me o.

My hands awa not dia Biko.
grin

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by codemaniacs: 2:42pm On Nov 28, 2023
MadamExcellency:
This inferiority complex isn't necessary. The Constitution overrides every tribal claim and every Nigerian has a right to settle anywhere and have properties if he/she wishes.

There is no ethnicity known as "Nigerian" so in reality there's nothing like Nigerians.

Nigeria is just a location on a map created by eu:ropeans , it is not the ethnicity of anybody.

the constitution or any piece of paper can never override ethnic claims.

we are not tribes, we are nations ( ethnic nations )...

europeans don't use the word tribe to describe themselves.
Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by SIRTee15: 2:45pm On Nov 28, 2023
killsmith:

Everything you wrote here is trash because the word yoruba did not exist then. Yoruba was a creation of a popular yoruba historian.

The earliest point of your history is ife and can be dated to the 16th century. The bini have been trading with the Portuguese since the 12th century and lagos was a port of trade for the bini.

Bini is far older than ife. Meaning they are your fathers.

What century did Portuguese reach the west African coast?
Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by Odidigboigbo(m): 2:46pm On Nov 28, 2023
Sillymoderators:

What stops other state from developing their ports?
was it Lagos state that developed the port in Lagos?

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by MrColdsweat: 2:48pm On Nov 28, 2023
Stoplying:
18th century map of Africa drawn by Emanuel Bowen:
The bini kingdom is probably the oldest empire in southerm Nigeria.

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by codemaniacs: 2:48pm On Nov 28, 2023
tnerro1:
Abeg, there is nothing special about Lagos. If other states had ports like Lagos there will be no difference between them and Lagos,

There's a port in Rivers state called "port Harcourt".
There are also:
Calabar port
Onne port
Warri port..

SE and SS have 4 ports.
2 in Port Harcourt and 1 in Calabar and 1 in Warri.

Port Harcourt and Calabar is closer to the SE than Lagos..

The SW has only 2 ports which are both in Lagos..

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Re: Who Founded Lagos: Yoruba Or Binis? Oba Of Benin’s Claim Stirs Controversy, Agai by MrColdsweat: 2:50pm On Nov 28, 2023
MadamExcellency:
This inferiority complex isn't necessary. The Constitution overrides every tribal claim and every Nigerian has a right to settle anywhere and have properties if he/she wishes.
The yorubas will never evolve. They claim to be knowledgeable of the law but infringe on the right of other tribes over petty archaic sentiments.

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