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Help, I Can't Fast. by Dada4me: 11:06pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Hello everyone, This is it, I find it very difficult to fast. If I don't eat before 11am, I will develop headache that will last the whole day no matter what I later eat. I feel so hungry that one will think I have not eaten for days even when I eat before going to bed. Please what can I do to improve in fasting. I have not gone beyond 2pm which is occasionally. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Kobojunkie: 11:11pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Dada4me:To loose weight, what you need to do is cut down your daily calorie intake, not actually starve yourself of food(fast). Fasting has been shown to be less effective means of weight loss. 1 Like |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Dada4me: 11:34pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: My fasting is for religion purpose not to loose weight |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Kobojunkie: 11:37pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Dada4me:What deity? |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Dada4me: 8:12am On Dec 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: My fasting is to God, the father of the Lord Jesus Christ. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by AyobamiIsaac12: 8:46am On Dec 01, 2023 |
Dada4me:Ignore that lady called Kobo. His next quote will be to ask you where Jesus Christ told us to fast in the Bible. He is well known on this forum for misinterpreting scriptures. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:33am On Dec 01, 2023 |
AyobamiIsaac12: Exactly what i wanted to ask: Is there anywhere in the Bible that Jesus said fasting (abstinence from food or skipping meals) is compulsory for believers? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:41am On Dec 01, 2023 |
Dada4me: If truly you want to FAST in an approved manner before God it has nothing to do with your skipping meals or hunger strike. This is what the true God accept as FASTING: *Share what you have with your neighbours who is in need of it. *Forgive and forget the wrong your neighbour did to hurt you. *Use your time, energy and resources to help those close to you even though there's nothing to receive as compensation. This is the type of FASTING God requires from His worshipers who are doing so in spirit and truth! Isaiah 58:3-8 Not when you keep all these away them start starving yourself hypocritically claiming it's for God! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by AyobamiIsaac12: 2:02pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Ignore this one too |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Kobojunkie: 2:03pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Dada4me:Did God or even Jesus Christ ever in fact ask you to starve yourself of food in order to get his attention? Nowhere in Scripture did God in fact say that if you want His attention and answer you should deprive yourself of food. As a matter of fact, God said that when you eat or deprive yourself(diet) you do so for your own good. So, when you deprive yourself of food, why do you resolve that God is pleased by it too? The kind of fasting God wants is detailed in Isaiah 58. Isaiah was prophet in Judah during the period between 740 - 726 BC, that is approximately 2750 years ago. Think about what that means for a minute. God established the kind of fasting ---- absolutely not starvation fasting ---- that He wants His people to carry out when they desire to fast over 2700 years ago, yet to this day, rather than do as God has commanded and established through His prophets, you engage in a ritual entirely opposite of that which God commands yet you say you do it for God. Don't you see that it means you don't even reverence God at all even though you claim to do so with your tongue? Look, it is not by force to believe in God and you benefit absolutely nothing when you say you believe in God yet the things you do using His name have nothing to do with that which He commands. No reason to lie to yourself because God makes clear that He only answers those who obey Him anyways. So if you can't do as God commands, then forget God completely and live your life on your own terms. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:52pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
AyobamiIsaac12:He will jare, he surely will! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by world123: 6:57pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
You know you can talk to God. Ask him for grace to fast. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Dada4me: 7:19pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Please explain 1 Corinthians 7:5. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Dada4me: 7:21pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: What of Matthew 17:20-21? |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Dada4me: 7:23pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Jesus Himself fasted in Matthew chapter 4 by abstaining from food and He did it as example for us. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Dada4me: 7:24pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: It is not compulsory but necessary, occasionally as some situations might demand. Matthew 17:20-21 |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Kobojunkie: 7:29pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Dada4me:This passsage is Paul's opinion regarding the having of sexual relations between married people. 1. Now I will discuss the things you wrote me about. You asked if it is better for a man not to have any sexual relations at all.Jesus Christ made clear to those who are born-again that their marriages were of the world of men and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36 - affirmations God's ruling regarding marriage from after the fall of man in Genesis 3 vs 16. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Kobojunkie: 7:34pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Dada4me:Becareful what you chose to believe. Jesus Christ never asked His disciples to starve themselves of food to honor God. Recall this is the same Jesus Christ who allowed His followers to go out in the field on the sabbath day to pluck food to eat. And He is the same Jesus Christ who announced that His followers could eat anything they wanted or so desired because it is not what you eat that makes you unclean in the Kingdom of God. So it is especially out of order to believe that the same Jesus Christ would then suggest to His same disciples that by starving themselves of food, they honor His Father. 14 Jesus and the followers went back to the people. A man came to Jesus and bowed before him.Nowhere in the entire context of the passage above did Jesus Christ suggest that you should starve yourself of food to cast out a demon. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Dada4me: 7:34pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: You've gone far, please take the word of God at face value. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Kobojunkie: 7:36pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Dada4me:If you did that you would know there is absolutely no reason why you would pretend God is pleased when you starve yourself of food. Why? Because nowhere in all of Scripture is it written that God is pleased when you starve yourself of food. The Allah of the Muslims may be pleased by it but not the God of Israel and certainly not Jesus Christ who made it known that He and His Father are one — in agreement and accord. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Dada4me: 7:38pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Fasting does not imply starving, it's abstinence from food for a period of time determined by you. If you skip your breakfast because you don't feel like eating, does it mean you are starving? |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Kobojunkie: 7:41pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Dada4me:1. The point here is did God ask you to abstain from eating food? If your answer is yes, show us where this is contained in Scripture God said any such.. 2. Technically it does mean you are starving yourself because you recognize breakfast as a meal but choose not to eat it for other reasons. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Dada4me: 7:48pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: I just gave you Matthew 17:20-21 but you explained it to suit yourself. The Bible never said we should not smoke but I believe you will not smoke because of that. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Kobojunkie: 7:52pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Dada4me:Point to how exactly I explained it to suit myself. What you said about smoking is bullsheet! I don't smoke ONLY because the Surgeon general says that smoking is a likely cause of lung cancer. If not, I would smoke as much as I wanted. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Dada4me: 8:22pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: What you believe works for you, please leave me to my believe, Mr Bullshit. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Kobojunkie: 8:24pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Dada4me:You accused me of spinning scripture but you are not able to prove it, are you? And now rather than admit it, you instead push me away by pretending the Truth of God can be divided up into different types almost as if to suggest that God is OK with people doing as they please, abi? It is always easier to throw God under the bus than admit you have had it wrong all along, isn't it? |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Dada4me: 8:31pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Ok, I admit. Good night. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:38pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Dada4me:How will you feel if i tell you that Matthew chapter 17 has no verse 21? The original writing has no chapters or verses it was later divided into chapters and verses by scholars for easy quoting for references so in the process of doing so some overzealous scholars imputed what was added in verse 21. But if you're truly interested in knowing the truth check verse 21 in other versions of the Bible like the Revised Standard Version, Jerusalem Bible, American Standard Version, NIV and so on the only version where verse 21 appears in Matthew 17 is the KJV. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:45pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Dada4me: NO, Jesus didn't set fasting as example for his disciples! If you doubt it then answer the following questions: Where are we to fast, in the house or wilderness? Are we to decide on our own or led by God's Holy Spirit? When is the right time to break such fasting? Did Jesus prescribed fasting for his disciples in details? Whatever Jesus wants us to imitate will be clearly stated not what happened to him once in his lifetime but wasn't repeated for emphasis sake. Jesus never intended to fast because after those days the Bible recorded that he became hungry which supposed not to be if it was intentional! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Kobojunkie: 8:51pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
Dada4me:This isn't about me but about you not letting the lies of religion to rule over your perception of who God is and what He requires of those who desire to receive answers from Him. The fact that God never asked any man to starve Himself of food to hear from Him reveals that much of what religion has taught you are lies and have nothing to do with God or Jesus Christ for that matter. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by Dada4me: 10:07pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Now I get where you're coming from, good night. |
Re: Help, I Can't Fast. by jaephoenix(m): 12:46am On Dec 02, 2023 |
Dada4me:What would Yahweh do for you for starving yourself unnecessarily? |
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