tsdarkside:


my point is the elites will always separate from the poor....
this is how the discussion between us started....

i said its a normal thing all over the world....
next is to wall off such areas....

Kukutenla:

Do you think people do drugs because they are poor? Do you know how many elites do drugs in US?
Doing drugs is not a sign of poverty. Living on the streets is a sign of mental issues most especially when these people can easily get a job and tend for themselves in their society.
Your analogy is false

tsdarkside:


are you sure....??

kiki....you funny....
atleast i can reason with you....

i dont know anybody that started drugs and ended well....
none....

easily get a job....??

Kukutenla:

Oh so you think only poor people do drugs?
Whitney Houston did drugs. Britney Spears too. Majek Fashek. Tina Turner etc. Are they poor?
Doing drugs is not a sign of poverty

You think it's difficult to get a decent job over there like here? Why are our people migrating there

nairalanda1:

We should (and in a way we are eg Tax breaks to people like Dangote) but it does not mean we would get cheap fuel.

And fixing the refineries is one thing, keeping them running...that is where subsidy removal comes in...so that they earn enough of a profit to pay for themselves...like every sane business.

You want subsidy, then that is where we pay for it by improving our tax to gdp ratio.

You are looking at someone here who does not support any of the names here, and who would never vote for any one of them. Yes, including Tinubu.

(And thanks for insuinating I am a tinubu supporter. Lord knows I get too much of it here because i don;t follow the nairaland crowd. Some even think I am an Obi supporter self).

So how else do we raise money? Yeah we should cut costs. But at the end of the day, short term, taxes, long term diversification

It's cold reality. This oil we are dragging...it isn't enough unless we were 40 million people.



1.Please, again, you are annoying me by insuinating I back our leader's corrupt overspending.

2.Yes it should stop. But would it improve money available for the masses? No. That;s where we got to ....improve revenue.




SO either we take hard decisions, or just accept our state. We want to be a bigger rich nation, we got to make the sacrifices the rich nations made...or we pretend we are rich, share the money and keep taking loans.

ezekins:
I have been saying it in as much as the government of nigeria has irrationally decided to float naira, we can wake up one day to see that official rate had gone to #2000. If they have sense let them stop naira float. This government lack ideas

emorse:

Of course, what's the point of fixing the refineries if we won't keep them running?

Regarding your political leaning, my lead sentence was "policies not personalities" so it honestly doesn't bother me who you support. By the way, supporting Tinubu isn't necessarily bad as long as we can do so objectively. Thanks for clarifying anyways and I hope that you're also clear on my position too.

These guys have been borrowing and they keep borrowing but only end up looting and relooting. Those monies would not solve all our problems but at least we would have less to worry about.

Only our leaders and their cronies benefit from corruption. And those people are not on nairaland debating issues with you and I. But in a conversation such as this, I feel it's necessary that we outline ALL the problems and proffer workable solutions. So I apologise for making you feel attacked. It was never my intention.

Now as regards taking hard decisions, taking loans is not necessarily a bad idea (the US owes China over $800b) but the government must be determined to improve local production of "goods who's prices we can set and control".

I think one thing we clearly both agree on is that we have sh*tty leaders. I just don't believe that we have to suffer more than we already are before things can get better.

MT:


I agree with improving local production but you cannot set and control prices in a capitalistic market.

TheKing4040:
Death and sorrow to all APC supporters who supported buhari and also brought tinubu upon us. A once great country where enjoyment was the order of the day is now a shadow of itself with depression and suffering on the faces of the masses while the rulers and their families loot and dine in surplus.

BigDawsNet:


Do you know it was easy to rigged because they had the population to made it successful for them...

Even with the billions, power and connection.. the rigging won't manifest if they have low voters supporting them...

I know someday Nigerians supporting this people will wake up and they will do the right thing

tsdarkside:


she is dead....screw that....

my point is the elites will always separate from the poor....

Tsolutionifede:
shut up lie lie Igbo boy, whatever that is happening, Peter obi will be worst off

accordadoga29:


Heheheh

Don’t mind okor0s.

Let $1 be N20,000 we are still going to support Ashiwaju.

If Obi was the president and $1 was N3,000, they would still support him.

Obi was a disaster in Anambra as a governor but they still supported him

MT:


What will you suggest as an alternative to floating the naira?

Should the Govt still continue to subsidies each dollar from our limited, foreign exchange earning? If they do and there is no money for infrastructure development, will you still blame the Government for it?

Just asking and please, if you have to respond, make it civil.

Thanks.

fnep2smooth:
I'm not praying for my beloved country to fall but since we never decided to choose the right people to make drastic decisions for the good of the country, let it fall yakata.

As a Google boy, Google credit me with block last month, something I use to see like 40k as of early this year. Omo I see 90k+ area scatter.


Abeg make nobody DM me, tribalism comments for there don make me dey mean.

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BigDawsNet:
Cost of living get higher daily..

Nigerians needs to come together and voye in the right person... all tribalism won't solve anything

tsdarkside:


nothing was rigged....
many people dont like obi....

when you want to talk about riggin,it was actualy south east that massively rigged....

ezekins:
I have been saying it in as much as the government of nigeria has irrationally decided to float naira, we can wake up one day to see that official rate had gone to #2000. If they have sense let them stop naira float. This government lack ideas

WiszyFraud:
Did you know??



Men,

Just a reminder:

Money attracts broken, damaged and lazy women.
What do you mean by frame?

Your FRAME attracts high-value women.


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WiszyFraud:
Did you know??



Men,

Just a reminder:

Money attracts broken, damaged and lazy women.

Your FRAME attracts high-value women.


👍

Truvelisback:
Sadly, Nigeria's problem will continue to get worse until the military take over. Democracy has failed us and the youths are barred from politics. The Nigeria Military needs to take over. Sadly, they are still sleeping.

DKM123:


LMAO! See this sufferhead that cannot even find transport to go for his elebuke work talking about owning a car.
An olodo man who writes like a child and sleeps on Nairaland defending bad governance is definitely a poverty stricken n!ncoompoop who has sold his m!serable soul for bread crumbs.

Ewu Gambia! Be@st of no value! Nkpi!

accordadoga29:


Heheheh

Don’t mind okor0s.

Let $1 be N20,000 we are still going to support Ashiwaju.

If Obi was the president and $1 was N3,000, they would still support him.

Obi was a disaster in Anambra as a governor but they still supported him

Alliswell248:


Baby factory child.....hacking gala in the sun in Lagos.
Not everybody is poor like you.....I can show you my LinkedIn profile.

Don't drink snip£r.....
I'm enjoying this government.....
I can employ you as my car washer.

Kukutenla:

This is the problem with you APC supporters.

You have become extremists when it comes to public policies in a bid to protect your principals from public criticism.

The irony of it is that a few months ago, you guys were defending Buhari's policy of defending the naira. Buhari changes to Tinubu and suddenly floating the naira is the best option. You guys lack principles.

Let me tell you simple and straight. No nation exists that does not manipulate its currency to suit its economy.

It's a fallacy to claim floating your currency is a one size fits all just as its a fallacy to claim defending it is the best. It's more a question of what we intend to achieve.

Tinubu floated the naira to achieve exchange rate convergence thinking it will strengthen the naira. Was he able to achieve that? Obviously No!!

Cardoso has done something I give him credit for on assuming office. He's been trying to collapse the parallel market by bringing everyone into the open market.

That's why he removed the prohibition list. Though that has dropped the naira value further but at least he has an idea what he's doing.

I wonder where he was when his principal floated the naira without any buffer to how the demand pull will react.

For me Cardoso's next big task is how to stabilise forex demand and supply. If that involves defending the naira, no qualms.

It's the result that justifies the means. You guys need to learn to study trends instead of just jumping to defend what you don't even understand.

BigDawsNet:


They are not sleeping... they are just very lazy to take up that responsibility...

SouthEastFacts:
And Tinubu pegged the dollar in his budget to $750?

Each day reveals what the best of Yoruba brains are capable of.

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