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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by musicwriter(m): 5:40pm On Dec 02, 2023
socialmediaman:
Out of 100 "spirit" related stories, my theory is that:

1 of them (1%) could be real. I mean, if you believe in God, then there's a possibility there are angels and spirits, right?

19 of them (19%) could be related to hallucinations and mental health conditions. People will definitely hear and see things when they're sick or have mental conditions. There are also pre-existing conditions that could be triggered by things like premonition

80 of them (80%) could be explained, however, many of us can't because we're ignorant.

I take data seriously so I have to put a disclaimer here that those numbers are just from my wild imagination and have no scientific backing

Nothing is supernatural.

And it's not necessarily about hallucination, rather your culture would program you to believe and behave certain ways.

If your culture through mythology or education or through whatever means, believes that it's a bad omen to see a white cat by 6:30 AM in the morning, your whole psyche would work in such a way that all your misfortune on a bad day would be blamed on an innocent cat you saw while going to work early in the morning. The cat would become the explanation for something that's completely unrelated because you'll be using correlation as causation.

And believe it or not, it would become your reality and your cells and genes would work in synch with that. You'll make it real totally out of ignorance!!

That's why white people can do anything to that river and absolutely nothing would happen because they have a different cultural consciousness.

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by placeofallure(f): 5:41pm On Dec 02, 2023
sylve11:


Kobo, If any oyibo company wants to do dam work in most river, they usually offer sacrifices.

They hire a spiritualist who understands the gods present in that river.

I have seen this before, not once or twice.

cool


You're correct. My mum told me the same of a dam they built in my town. The Oyinbo appeased the deity before they could build anything.

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by jojothaiv(m): 5:42pm On Dec 02, 2023
MindHacker9009:


White people even travel from all over the world to go and watch it.

So who can explain what's inside that makes it dance and talk.
A little travel to Badagry during the festive period which usually around August will demystify what is inside but according to adherents, they say it's spirit that control it and there's nothing you will see dancing and talking.

I've strayed away from home for too long, I would've love to cover it too.

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by Krismas(m): 5:44pm On Dec 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Black man, save yourself from ignorance. lipsrsealed
grin Story
I want u to drop link to ur story.
Also I want if Julius Berger died in 1943, then who brought the company to Nigeria?
Also why do all the google searchs on Julius Berger reveal that he died in Nigeria?
https://ww.nairaland.com/3304096/julius-berger-died-buried-ikorodu#48711100

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by Krismas(m): 5:46pm On Dec 02, 2023
musicwriter:


Nothing is spiritual.

And it's not necessarily about hallucination, rather your culture would program you to believe and behave certain ways.

If your culture through mythology or education or through whatever means, believes that it's a bad omen to see a white cat by 6:30 AM in the morning, your whole psyche would work in such a way that all your misfortune on a bad day would be blamed on an innocent cat you saw while going to work early in the morning. The cat would become the explanation for something that's completely unrelated because you'll be using correlation as causation.

And believe it or not, it would become your reality and your cells and genes would work in synch with that. You'll make it real totally out of ignorance!!

That's why white people can do anything to that river and absolutely nothing would happen because they have a different cultural consciousness.
grin Oga witchcraft is real. Dey play

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by emerged01(m): 5:46pm On Dec 02, 2023
It happened to my mum. Our neighbour had a swollen leg and she had use all kind of medication but no result. Then my mum was given anointed oil in church which my mum applied on the swollen leg of our neighbour.
Next day,my mum shared a scary encounter she had in the dream. She appeared in the midst of old women with Canes in their hands. They flogged her mercilessly. They told her she untied their victim.

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by FinidiGeorge: 5:48pm On Dec 02, 2023
DrAda:
Math opened up my eyes to the fact that our existence and indeed everything around us is not random. Everything is exactly as it should be to maintain balance. That in itself is exceedingly rare.

Therefore, the only logical conclusion is that there is a creator,a master being at play. And I for one am in awe of it.
How did you understand this through math? Which of the topics.. Just summarize please.
Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by musicwriter(m): 5:49pm On Dec 02, 2023
Krismas:
grin Oga witchcraft is real. Dey play

I never said witchcraft or spirit isn't real. What I explained is the metaphysics - why it appears to be real.

You create your reality.
Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by blackmantis: 5:51pm On Dec 02, 2023

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by Brushstrokes20: 5:51pm On Dec 02, 2023
I used to think that spiritual stuffs are some stupid #NOLLYWOOD smokescreen until first hand EXPERIENCE bitterly taught me otherwise !😑👀👀

# I saw shege Pro max...and it's beyond words!
# EXPERIENCE is indeed the BEST TEACHER✅💯

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by Krismas(m): 5:51pm On Dec 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Inevitably? shocked shocked shocked shocked

So, the lack of adequate safety measures employed is not to blame. Those deaths are instead inevitable? I hope you feel the same exact way if at least one of those deaths happens to a loved one of yours. lipsrsealed
grin Safety measures alone is not enough! I have seen people die on sites. For real for real. My loved ones? Dis Where knowledge comes handy. I tell them to pray b4 starting any work, rebuke the spirit of death in Yeshua name. Same I tell u. Best believe

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by Error401: 5:53pm On Dec 02, 2023
mine was when our roof suddenly sounded like someone poured alot of stones on it back then in 2010. This happened immediately a very young child was pronounced dead in the hospital. She suffered first degree burn in her home due to kerosene explosion. She was very close to my family and everyone thought she was my moms last daughter or grand daughter whereas shes just a neighbor.

May her soul rest in perfect peace. She was such a bright girl
Lance008:
Most of us don't believe on spiritual stuff till some event that made us believe it's exit
Mine was when a pastor die days after fighting the gods in the community

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by Kingsolar: 5:53pm On Dec 02, 2023
I have had an experience as a kid. Am from benue state and I can still remember this occasion vividly. There is this river that we were told never to go fishing or have anything to do with any thing aside bathing, fetching of the water. At this particular time there was dryness and scarcity of water in this community and the villagers have only this to fetch. Gradually the water keep drying up and the community head decided to call for a gathering and decision was made that the fish should be fished. Long story short that day we ate fish like never b4. Most rivers are evil. That night it rained heavily, I vomited everything I ate and others to the point that some of the fishes were seen swimming back to the river. Real life story

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by Quebec91(m): 5:54pm On Dec 02, 2023
cheesy
VawulentMan:

Mine was when your "e" comes before your "i" in your believe
Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by Kobojunkie: 5:55pm On Dec 02, 2023
Krismas:
grin Story I want u to drop link to ur story. Also I want if Julius Berger died in 1943, then who brought the company to Nigeria?
Also why do all the google searchs on Julius Berger reveal that he died in Nigeria?
https://ww.nairaland.com/3304096/julius-berger-died-buried-ikorodu#48711100
I grew up in Ikorodu and was schooled in Ogun state. Those tales, I at least know are not based on facts. The Julius Berger myth is just that, a myth!
https://joliba-africa.com/2013/12/27/julius-berger-1862-1943/comment-page-1
https://www.ide.go.jp/English/Data/Africa_file/Company/nigeria05.html
https://www.julius-berger.com/about-julius-berger/profile-and-history
Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by jonahhh: 5:56pm On Dec 02, 2023
obinna58:
Nothing

The pastor was killed by people and has nothing to do with spiritual, if police carry that native doctor, him go call em gangs
If that's true , na gun or knife dem use take kill am, of course its spirituality... oyinbo don enslave most of yalls minds ... christainity is the worship of Satan

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by Lovelyn451(f): 5:56pm On Dec 02, 2023
When a thief stole an item in a shop and my mum was accused and arrested, after all my shouting and argument they still took her away, I rushed home out of anger and frustration, fell on my knees, prayed and cried to God that whoever is with the stolen item be exposed and arrested and my mum be released immediately. Omo this one happen like film, the thief sold the item to a dealer who sold it to a woman, the woman told the dealer that she would take the item to her customer to confirm if its original b4 she pays, lo and behold her customer was the owner of the item, the owner immediately called the police on her, she called the dealer who now called the thief, that's how they were all remanded by the police and mum was released....praise the Lord

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by jonahhh: 5:57pm On Dec 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
So, Pastor wey probably get a bad heart goes to fight gods in the community, then when pastor dies days later and it had to have been the gods and not his bad heart? Black man ehn! undecided

Where in the text did you read he had a bad heart... people can speedup existing problems spiritually to discipline a person
Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by Kobojunkie: 5:57pm On Dec 02, 2023
Krismas:
grin Safety measures alone is not enough! I have seen people die on sites. For real for real. My loved ones?Dis Where knowledge comes handy.
â–  I tell them to pray b4 starting any work, rebuke the spirit of death in Yeshua name. Same I tell u. Best believe
See dem... black man mentality!

Abeg get away!! You be Israelite wey you dey claim Yeshua name? Abi, you also think say Jesus Christ was stupid when He told you that He came only for the Lost sheep of Israel? undecided

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by AngelicBeing: 5:58pm On Dec 02, 2023
cheesy
Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by Kobojunkie: 5:59pm On Dec 02, 2023
jonahhh:
â–  Where in the text did you read he had a bad heart...
â– [size=8pt] people can speedup existing problems spiritually
to discipline a person [/size]
Did you do an autopsy on the man to confirm say no be bad heart kill am? undecided

2. What you typed there reads like absolute hogwash, lazy-minded reasoning! Where is your proof of this? undecided
Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by jonahhh: 5:59pm On Dec 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
LOL... I bet you if Oyinbo company come Dam that water, nothing of what you said would matter. Sometimes, I think even those who consult with the local gods and goddesses simply don't understand them at all. undecided
Ask julius berger who said the same thing decades ago.... una ignorant about your own power and culture is irritating

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by Kobojunkie: 6:00pm On Dec 02, 2023
jonahhh:
â–  Ask julius berger who said the same thing decades ago.... una ignorant about your own power and culture is irritating
There is no record that the man, Julius Berger, ever visited Nigeria or even dreamed of it. undecided
Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by jonahhh: 6:02pm On Dec 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
There is no record that the man, Julius Berger, ever visited Nigeria or even dreamed of it. undecided

Then your not knowing anything about this topic is solidify, even primary school pupil sef know sag julius berger died building a bridge in a village in nigeira
Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by jonahhh: 6:02pm On Dec 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Did you do an autopsy on the man to confirm say no be bad heart kill am? undecided

2. What you typed there reads like absolute hogwash, lazy-minded reasoning! Where is your proof of this? undecided

Did you use your brain to read my text at all? I don't think so
Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by SoNature(m): 6:04pm On Dec 02, 2023
musicwriter:


Nothing is spiritual.

And it's not necessarily about hallucination, rather your culture would program you to believe and behave certain ways.

If your culture through mythology or education or through whatever means, believes that it's a bad omen to see a white cat by 6:30 AM in the morning, your whole psyche would work in such a way that all your misfortune on a bad day would be blamed on an innocent cat you saw while going to work early in the morning. The cat would become the explanation for something that's completely unrelated because you'll be using correlation as causation.

And believe it or not, it would become your reality and your cells and genes would work in synch with that. You'll make it real totally out of ignorance!!

That's why white people can do anything to that river and absolutely nothing would happen because they have a different cultural consciousness.

This is totally FALSE in caps!

I tell people that What you believe or don't believe cannot change reality because reality is a respecter of nobody. This is a quote from me.

If you believe that there will be a sudden nightfall at 6am tomorrow, if you don't have a way of manipulating nature to make that happen, it won't happen. Belief without actions to back it up is useless and ineffective.

This brings us to the next point. How does one manipulate nature? The Bible tells us in Genesis that God created the earth and gave us dominion over it. In fact, God doesn't interfere in our business unless we invite Him or cross the line.

If you want to manipulate nature, you can use technology, pray (inviting the creator of the world), use charm or other means, but never with your thought process. Again, what you believe cannot change what is.

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by Kobojunkie: 6:05pm On Dec 02, 2023
jonahhh:
â–  Then your not knowing anything about this topic is solidify, even primary school pupil sef know sag julius berger died building a bridge in a village in nigeira
Rubbish! I can bet you that you have never in fact had a spiritual experience in all of your life. Rather, your head has been filled with so many tales— lies of course— of the so-called spiritual that you decided at some point that you know of the spiritual. undecided

Julius Berger, the man, never entered into the place called Nigeria. So, what you and your primary school pupil cling to are tales by moonlight. undecided
Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by jonahhh: 6:06pm On Dec 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Rubbish! I can bet you that you have never in fact had a spiritual experience in all of your life. Rather, your head has been filled with so many tales— lies of course— of the so-called spiritual that you decided at some point that you know of the spiritual. undecided

Julius Berger, the man, never entered into the place called Nigeria. So, what you and your primary school pupil cling to are tales by moonlight. undecided

I'm not going to exchange words with you, you IQ is low...

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Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by Kobojunkie: 6:06pm On Dec 02, 2023
jonahhh:
â–  Did you use your brain to read my text at all? I don't think so
Oh now you resort to blaming me for your own silly retorts? undecided
Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by Kobojunkie: 6:06pm On Dec 02, 2023
jonahhh:
â–  I'm not going to exchange words with you, you IQ is low...
See dem....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by jonahhh: 6:07pm On Dec 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Oh now you resort to blaming me for your own silly retorts? undecided
I'm blaming you for having low iq, in my text I said if it's true*
Re: What Happened That Made You Believe Spiritual Is Real by blackmantis: 6:07pm On Dec 02, 2023
Some time in the 90's at Saint Anthony's Catholic Church Gbaja.
Rev father Patrick Adegbite was attacked by a woman remotely while he was saying mass. He was alone on the alter when he started bleeding from the side of his head. She was caught and she confessed. Lots of other stuff happened too numerous to mention. I took someone to church who had never been there before and when holy was sprinkled on him he started manifesting and I was like WTH!

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