Christistruth00:


Your case is easy



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZimvz1eIps

Christistruth00:



You always love going off point gregboy

That is the Current Oba Of Benin Praise names

Anyway present the Pre Amalgamation Oba of Benin Praise names so we can see if Ekhalerderhan and Izoduwa are there I know they were not because even in the 15th Century Oba of Benin told the Portuguese that Ooni of Ife was his father

By the way Ife also Founded Benin and the Ogiso dynasty there

gregyboy:



Evidence to everything you say
Atleast mske refrence, put screenshot

Read this

The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware

Christistruth00:



You always love going off point gregboy

That is the Current Oba Of Benin Praise names

Anyway present the Pre Amalgamation Oba of Benin Praise names so we can see if Ekhalerderhan and Izoduwa are there I know they were not because even in the 15th Century Oba of Benin told the Portuguese that Ooni of Ife was his father

By the way Ife also Founded Benin and the Ogiso dynasty there

Christistruth00:


So why did Egherevba Benin Historian write about the founding of the Oba dynasty by Oranmiyan and why did the Oba Of Benin reward him by making him a high Chief afterwards

As we speak the Oba Of Benin's Palace has listed Oranmiyan as the first Oba of Benin

It is you calling them liars

This is the same Oba Of Benin declaring Oranmiyan to be the first Oba of Benin

It is you who said that he is lying


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qk8LO4t1OY?si=5h5JZUHTJ9LA2-j2

gregyboy:


Thank you for say it is the Current praise name meaning it's invalud

Is the praise name or the author have any ifilation to the palace of the oba of Benin, because anybody can go to the Internet thesedays and write anything

I already know it's current I just wanted you to say it with your mouth

So who is the author to were you saw the praise name does the author have ant affiliation the palace and where his is source of information coming from


Read this

https://www.nairaland.com/7683383/another-reason-why-benin-ife


Ogiso
https://www.nairaland.com/7928662/yorubas-too-dey-lie-history#127271150

Christistruth00:


It is not invalid
Otherwise why is Benin Palace using it

It was you who said that it was ex 1914 Amalgamation praise names for Oba Of Benin

Oya give us the previous one

gregyboy:


Screenshot boy

Because it's a fun game that emerged in the western region the game of supremacy that has no base in real history reason why he is the first oba to list it there

Christistruth00:



Gregboy ! give us the Previous Oba of Benin Praise names that you mentioned the pre 1914 Amalgamation ones !!

Putinofrussia:

Oba Eweka 1 of Benin and all subsequent Obas of Benin were Yoruba.
The first king of Lagos was a Yoruba man from Benin who met the Aworis who were also Yorubas.

History cannot be twisted because you want to cheat the Ogiamien family who fortunately,has evidence with them.


The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware
Yoruba founded a part of Benin that uses Oba....Ogiamien of Benin..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/features/ogiso-and-ogiamien-are-aborigine-binis-while-oba-of-benin-is-of-yoruba-descent-high-chief-esotericist-monday-wehere/amp





[b]High Chief Esotericist Monday Wehere, JP explained further: “What is today known as Benin Kingdom started as Igodomigodo nine centuries ago. It was founded by Ogiso Igodo and it existed for 300 years before King Orominyan of Ife invaded Benin. During that invasion, Orominyan fought without any success. Before then, Orominyan came to Benin with a strategy. He brought a large number of Yoruba men into Benin long before the proper expedition. These men went into relationships with our daughters who started having children for them. By the time Orominyan came to attack Benin in 11th Century, the number of the Yoruba-born children was high. In spite of this, however, he still failed in his attack.

When Orominyan was returning to Ile-Ife without achieving his aim, as one of the strategies they invented, he deliberately impregnated a princess, the daughter of an “Enigie” – duke or king in Benin under the then Ogiso. The princess’ name was Elimide. He left her behind before returning to Ife. It was Princess Elimide that gave birth to the first Oba of Benin, Oba Eweka 1, who, after becoming an adult, was invited back to Ile-Ife, alongside other children they had secretly produced through our daughters without our knowing their game-plan.

Up till today, they still live in a place called Yoruba Quarters in Benin City. It was at that Ile-Ife meeting, which had Eweka in attendance that these children were told the reasons they were given birth to in Benin, that it was Oba Orominyan’s desire to use them to overthrow the then Ogiso Erebo and his dynasty, which was then known as Igodomigodo. They were all made to swear to an oath never to betray Eweka, who was to become the Oba of Benin, if they eventually succeeded.

Expectedly, this particular war was protracted as many people died on both sides. The carnage was much. It was, however, difficult for the then Ogiso to use extra force, as he felt his grandchildren were being used in the war. He kept saying the children being used by the Oba to prosecute his war were children of Benin daughters, even though they were now supporting their father’s side to fight the Ogiso.

It was at this point a truce was called. As there were no victor and no vanquished, Ogiso Erebo was told there was no way this large number of children born by Benin women for Yoruba men could be repatriated, since they had already been integrated into the heart of Igodomigodo. He was told the only way to maintain peace was for him to divide Igodomigodo into two kingdoms. Let the oba take a part, while he would hold on to the other part.


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Putinofrussia:

Oba Eweka 1 of Benin and all subsequent Obas of Benin were Yoruba.
The first king of Lagos was a Yoruba man from Benin who met the Aworis who were also Yorubas.

History cannot be twisted because you want to cheat the Ogiamien family who fortunately,has evidence with them.


The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware
Yoruba founded a part of Benin that uses Oba....Ogiamien of Benin..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/features/ogiso-and-ogiamien-are-aborigine-binis-while-oba-of-benin-is-of-yoruba-descent-high-chief-esotericist-monday-wehere/amp





[b]High Chief Esotericist Monday Wehere, JP explained further: “What is today known as Benin Kingdom started as Igodomigodo nine centuries ago. It was founded by Ogiso Igodo and it existed for 300 years before King Orominyan of Ife invaded Benin. During that invasion, Orominyan fought without any success. Before then, Orominyan came to Benin with a strategy. He brought a large number of Yoruba men into Benin long before the proper expedition. These men went into relationships with our daughters who started having children for them. By the time Orominyan came to attack Benin in 11th Century, the number of the Yoruba-born children was high. In spite of this, however, he still failed in his attack.

When Orominyan was returning to Ile-Ife without achieving his aim, as one of the strategies they invented, he deliberately impregnated a princess, the daughter of an “Enigie” – duke or king in Benin under the then Ogiso. The princess’ name was Elimide. He left her behind before returning to Ife. It was Princess Elimide that gave birth to the first Oba of Benin, Oba Eweka 1, who, after becoming an adult, was invited back to Ile-Ife, alongside other children they had secretly produced through our daughters without our knowing their game-plan.

Up till today, they still live in a place called Yoruba Quarters in Benin City. It was at that Ile-Ife meeting, which had Eweka in attendance that these children were told the reasons they were given birth to in Benin, that it was Oba Orominyan’s desire to use them to overthrow the then Ogiso Erebo and his dynasty, which was then known as Igodomigodo. They were all made to swear to an oath never to betray Eweka, who was to become the Oba of Benin, if they eventually succeeded.

Expectedly, this particular war was protracted as many people died on both sides. The carnage was much. It was, however, difficult for the then Ogiso to use extra force, as he felt his grandchildren were being used in the war. He kept saying the children being used by the Oba to prosecute his war were children of Benin daughters, even though they were now supporting their father’s side to fight the Ogiso.

It was at this point a truce was called. As there were no victor and no vanquished, Ogiso Erebo was told there was no way this large number of children born by Benin women for Yoruba men could be repatriated, since they had already been integrated into the heart of Igodomigodo. He was told the only way to maintain peace was for him to divide Igodomigodo into two kingdoms. Let the oba take a part, while he would hold on to the other part.


[/b]

gregyboy:



Answer mine first completely then I will answer yours then when you can use both to compare

While at it

Read my works if you don't read them others are reading tho silently


Are you aware the name ijebu was unintentionally given to them by the edo people but your leaders won't tell you because it has a sad background attached to it, the Benins had always raided the ijebu people for sacrificial slaves for our idols and so when the European inquired about them, the Benin said oo, you mean the tubu people this were the sound they made when the Benins dropped their corpse inside the river, and the European corrupted tubu to ijebu

raskymonojendor:

100% too.

Christistruth00:


Gregboy ! give us the Previous Oba of Benin Praise names that you mentioned the pre 1914 Amalgamation ones !!

If you don't know don't reply then

Christistruth00:


Gregboy ! give us the Previous Oba of Benin Praise names that you mentioned the pre 1914 Amalgamation ones !!

If you don't know don't reply then

raskymonojendor:

Map 👇
They never covered Lagos.

anonymous1759:


I Stan with you , even the name Oba is “Yoruba”
If Benin truly found Lagos you’ll still see traces of Benin legacies in Lagos, but that’s not the case . Just as British foot print will always be on it’s colonies . Even in America you’ll still see British foot print some of their Towns and street are British names .
Everybody wants to trend but it’s better to use your basic Analogy to dissect.

raskymonojendor:

Of course they share a close tie because the Yoruba conquered Bini via Oranmiyan...even their kind prays for his fore bearers.

raskymonojendor:
Prayed for the Ooni of Ife and the Alaafin of Oyo. Bini empire was under The Alaafin as well👇

ComeToJesus:
On our way to the Dangote fertilizer plant, close to the refinery, our boat berthed at a jetty that was described to us at the first port in Nigeria at Epe.

We were told Bini people used the port mostly for cargo exports.

Uptill now, there are old pre-colonial warehouses with nameplates with inscriptions like John Holt, Osborne, Goldie etc pasted on those warehouse.


It's a pity that the African man allowed his hisptory to be penned by the west while the African was busy chasing after crickets, bush rabbits and squirrels in the bush to satisfy his dainty palates.

TruthsFM:
most of past Obas of Benin was buried in ile ife. Check google on it.

gregyboy:


Answer mine first you're not the only yoruba I am schooling o, make it snappy

gregyboy:
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The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware

Christistruth00:



Ogedengbe and his Ekiti Parapo Army that includes Akure invaded Benin Kingdom and even took over Towns

Edos bearing the Unique Ijesha Surname of Ogedengbe today descended from his Army

raskymonojendor:

Map 👇
They never covered Lagos.

osothermal:
funny you

sheeda995:

I know Yoruba and Benin are related from Primary school. One of Oduduwa son abi grandson went to Benin. Stop telling rubbish story

Pakute:

All these stories are trash. Nobody has denied Aworis were from Ife but the question is, when the Benin migrant came, were the natives not there?. I ask again, How did Yorubas chase benins away from Lagos?, why is Yoruba language and culture predominant in Lagos?, why are the Yoruba the land owners in Lagos?, why are they the ones selling land in Lagos?, How many benin have a family house in Lagos?. These are my questions i want benin people to answer, otherwise, everything na empty noise.
i am looking for the historical account of how Yoruba chased Benin out of Lagos, pls, anyone with the document should send me a link.

Putinofrussia:

Do you have any proof for what you are saying or you just want to comment?
Do you know the Ogiamien royal family of Benin?
Thank God they are still alive and kicking.
They will tell you the real history of Benin as it affects them.
How they were scammed by Oranmiyan of Ile Ife,the father of Oba Eweka 1,who built Benin Empire.
This story is the story everybody knew and still knows.The late king formed another story of Oduduwa blah blah blah which nobody believe because it has no root and it was formed to undermine the Ogiamien royal family.
Yoruba from Ile Ife started Ogiso and later Oranmiyan's son,Eweka brought Obaship to Benin.
Yoruba owns Ife,Benin,Ogiso,Oba and everything about Benin.
I have proofs.Old proofs not falsehood written by the late Oba of Benin whose great,great forefather was also Yoruba.
Pls,let us discuss with facts only.Ciao..

There are some proofs above there.🖕
Those eulogies cannot be changed,that Oba would have changed them.

greggng:



They were not chased away ..some of there grand fathers gave birth to your grand father ...This matter is bigger than you . All the past obas of lagos except one were buried in Benin....how come it was so ? Have you ever pomdered why they were buried in Benin?