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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by umarwy(m): 6:08pm On Dec 05, 2023
hustla:


It won't

LOOL. But they wont be allowed to bring in dependents anymore. Very funny people

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeRV97cw/

So married nurses /hca will leave their families in Naija for 5 years.

They should continue

grin

Slave trade v2.0
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 6:09pm On Dec 05, 2023
Zahra29:


So if there was no care visa , given than this visa route was only created 2 years ago, what would people have done or planned to do?


They will avoid the uk, simple

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Noworries11: 6:13pm On Dec 05, 2023
Elders the prison job pre - employment checks na him we dey...
"Please provide an Overseas PNC for your time in Nigeria"
Please how so I go about this?
This should be same as Police Character Certificate, right?
Time in Nigeria implies from what point? A year before a migrated?

How do I cross this bridge, most persons I spoke with, claimed they did theirs back home, I mean, travelled to the UK alongside with it.

Experienced elders please advise.
Thank you
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 6:19pm On Dec 05, 2023
Noworries11:
Elders the prison job pre - employment checks na him we dey...
"Please provide an Overseas PNC for your time in Nigeria"
Please how so I go about this?
This should be same as Police Character Certificate, right?
Time in Nigeria implies from what point? A year before a migrated?

How do I cross this bridge, most persons I spoke with, claimed they did theirs back home, I mean, travelled to the UK alongside with it.

Experienced elders please advise.
Thank you

Am sure you belong to some Nigerian WhatsApp group in the uk or back home, just ask who can help with the police character certificate, someone will definitely refer you so it’s something they can process and send by courier to you here in the uk.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 6:23pm On Dec 05, 2023
Goke7:


Am sure you belong to some Nigerian WhatsApp group in the uk or back home, just ask who can help with the police character certificate, someone will definitely refer you so it’s something they can process and send by courier to you here in the uk.

Am sorry, An update to this please I hear there is a website where this is done now so check please check and find out. The process was different when some of us did it way back
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 6:26pm On Dec 05, 2023
Zahra29:


Let's wait and see

Note though that Labour did not oppose the govt plans yesterday and are actively in support of some such as scrapping the shortage occupation list.

I remember debating a few months ago that high immigration was a time bomb and wouldn't sustain, but the response was that the govt would not move to restrict immigrants and students, they need immigrants etc.
That may be true, but they need/want to be in power far more.

Besides the new policies aren't stopping immigrants from coming to the UK. The aim is to reduce the number of immigrants and their dependants but many immigrants such as
nurses, doctors, teachers etc are unaffected. Care workers who don't have dependants or are willing to live here without their family , are also unaffected.

Some policies, such as the high salary threshold for British dependants, might be reviewed later because of the impact on British citizens and their right to family life. But I highly doubt Labour will relax the rules to the same extent that Boris did, cos they know that will only cause a huge spike in immigration again, which they will get blamed for.


That bit of your post is really uncomfortable to read.

I mean think about this for a moment, an immigration policy that is actively encourages family separation? You can not bring your family until you have ILR or passport even at that you have to face another lengthy visa requirements.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by iyatrustee(f): 6:33pm On Dec 05, 2023
Noworries11:
Elders the prison job pre - employment checks na him we dey...
"Please provide an Overseas PNC for your time in Nigeria"
Please how so I go about this?
This should be same as Police Character Certificate, right?
Time in Nigeria implies from what point? A year before a migrated?

How do I cross this bridge, most persons I spoke with, claimed they did theirs back home, I mean, travelled to the UK alongside with it.

Experienced elders please advise.
Thank you

You can actually apply online. Cost 30k and turn around time about 72-96hrs.

Open an acct with www.possap.gov.ng and apply. I just received mine yesterday. They sent a pdf copy to my email

They basically search the criminal conviction database up till the time you left Nigeria.


Nanorest:


45k and you get it within 3 days

Official rate is 30k

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by iyatrustee(f): 6:39pm On Dec 05, 2023
Goke7:


Am sorry, An update to this please I hear there is a website where this is done now so check please check and find out. The process was different when some of us did it way back

Very straight forward. One policeman charged me 100k and made it look like it was hard to process. I took a risk and applied online, paid the 30k last thursday, by Friday they sent the form to capture my fingerprints and certificate issued yesterday!

The olopa don call tire, no be my head his detty december dey cheesy

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 6:41pm On Dec 05, 2023
You do know you dont have to be personally affected to feel other peoples pain? Its called empathy. I find your comment in very poor taste. People sold their entire lives possessions to come here. What will they do now?
gmacnoms:
Why all the data analysts, BAs, Tech bros dey run upandan for small announcement?

I think say na only me Dey carry Kaya and earning 20k for this youkay.

Small 38,700 na all of una Dey panicking? 😄😄😄

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by NotATroll: 6:43pm On Dec 05, 2023
Taal17:


They shared with you their experiences which are valid and true. Learn from it.

There many people here, came into the UK at different times to different cities and with different levels of supports both from Nigeria and in the UK.

Is it as difficult as those ppl told you? YES . It's the truth do not ignore.
Could it be easier for you ? YES and NO.

You need to sit down and think about
time you want to migrate
the cost to you personally to migrate
the living costs in the UK at the time you want to migrate
and your own personal reasons for migrating.

If you are looking to others to tell you what to do then you are avoiding being responsible for your actions.

Thank you for the insight
I appreciate
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 6:44pm On Dec 05, 2023
Thewritingnerd:
Well, this isn’t entirely right because theres also an “illusion of choice” where the available choices are limited or predetermined and set to intentionally steer you in a certain direction.

So it’s not exactly “free choice” if the choices they’ve intentionally made available steers you in a certain direction and you HAVE to make it, because your survival depends on it. Anything that involves survival cannot be said to be “choice”.

Available choices are predetermined in every western country, that's how they control their borders and labour market.

It is a free choice between coming/ staying in the UK and going elsewhere. As far as the government is concerned, they are not forcing or even asking anyone to stay in the UK, therefore they cannot be accused of deliberately steering anyone towards care or any other work route.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Thewritingnerd(f): 6:47pm On Dec 05, 2023
Wait really? This hassle-free? 😳 Wow.
iyatrustee:


You can actually apply online. Cost 30k and turn around time about 72-96hrs.

Open an acct with www.possap.gov.ng and apply. I just received mine yesterday. They sent a pdf copy to my email

They basically search the criminal conviction database up till the time you left Nigeria.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Nanorest: 6:51pm On Dec 05, 2023
Goke7:


Am sure you belong to some Nigerian WhatsApp group in the uk or back home, just ask who can help with the police character certificate, someone will definitely refer you so it’s something they can process and send by courier to you here in the uk.

45k and you get it within 3 days
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 6:57pm On Dec 05, 2023
justwise:



That bit of your post is really uncomfortable to read.

I mean think about this for a moment, an immigration policy that is actively encourages family separation? You can not bring your family until you have ILR or passport even at that you have to face another lengthy visa requirements.



The new rules are harsh, but also fair in that they will not apply to care workers who are already on a visa.
But anyone who isn't yet on the visa has been made aware of the restrictions and they do not have to apply for care work if they do not want to live away from their families. So I don't think it's actively encouraging family separation
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by JustJoyous: 7:02pm On Dec 05, 2023
Goke7:


Your question is not clear but for clarity if you must be sponsored either new or renewing outside the healthcare care sector salary must be almost 39k per year

Even Teachers?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 7:05pm On Dec 05, 2023
JustJoyous:


Even Teachers?

No, teachers will be on the new shortage occupation list and will be subject to national pay scales instead
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by JustJoyous: 7:09pm On Dec 05, 2023
Zahra29:


No, teachers will be on the new shortage occupation list and will be subject to national pay scales instead

Not all subjects are on the Shortage of Occupation List.

Does this mean only those subjects on the SOL are exempt or all Teachers?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Nanorest: 7:11pm On Dec 05, 2023
iyatrustee:


You can actually apply online. Cost 30k and turn around time about 72-96hrs.

Open an acct with www.possap.gov.ng and apply. I just received mine yesterday. They sent a pdf copy to my email

They basically search the criminal conviction database up till the time you left Nigeria.




Official rate is 30k

I only know about how to get it easily from the UK without stress
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:22pm On Dec 05, 2023
iyatrustee:


Very straight forward. One policeman charged me 100k and made it look like it was hard to process. I took a risk and applied online, paid the 30k last thursday, by Friday they sent the form to capture my fingerprints and certificate issued yesterday!

The olopa don call tire, no be my head his detty december dey cheesy
grin the olopa wan run you street
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Poanan: 7:24pm On Dec 05, 2023
Zahra29:


So if there was no care visa , given than this visa route was only created 2 years ago, what would people have done or planned to do?


See, people have been doing care even before they came up with the care visa. Infact it was much easier then to get into care than it is today. Now most NHS now ask for nvq 2. However, from the beginning it was not so. I have a friend who used the care route to get ILR.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:26pm On Dec 05, 2023
JustJoyous:


Even Teachers?

You see this uk, you got to wait small let them explain all the remaining grammar

As e be now even doctors and nurses could not sleep well since last night. In the fullness of time we will know every occupation that’s affected or not, any other info now is speculation

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Progressivegee: 7:30pm On Dec 05, 2023
Goke7:


I didn’t say anything different nah grin we are saying same thing

No vex I think say you meant they will pay 38k. My eye dey chuk as a care worker
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Treadway: 7:44pm On Dec 05, 2023
Zahra29:


Available choices are predetermined in every western country, that's how they control their borders and labour market.

It is a free choice between coming/ staying in the UK and going elsewhere. As far as the government is concerned, they are not forcing or even asking anyone to stay in the UK, therefore they cannot be accused of deliberately steering anyone towards care or any other work route.
just popped in to say, I have been reading and enjoying your very concise and logical takes on the issues. It is always so refreshing reading your posts, so much so, I don't bother much to lend a voice here these days. You too much 👊

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by gmacnoms(m): 8:32pm On Dec 05, 2023
missjekyll:
You do know you dont have to be personally affected to feel other peoples pain? It’s called empathy. I find your comment in very poor taste. People sold their entire lives possessions to come here. What will they do now?
me still Dey think wetin I go do now. Abi you think say e no affect me when e finally take effect?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by gmacnoms(m): 8:34pm On Dec 05, 2023
Goke7:


Do you know the average wage in this country? no allow all those noise of 50k deceive you o
i heard it’s around 26/28. But I assumed a lot of us earn *2 of that.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 8:37pm On Dec 05, 2023
gmacnoms:
Why all the data analysts, BAs, Tech bros dey run upandan for small announcement?

I think say na only me Dey carry Kaya and earning 20k for this youkay.

Small 38,700 na all of una Dey panicking? 😄😄😄


A topic was opened for debate for everyone owing to new rules and you just had to let this snide remark jump out. I have noticed this is also common among Nigerians in the UK Twitter (NIUK) community.

If people stop sharing their experiences, it's the same Nigerians like you who will say the Indians don't do this or that. The purpose of sharing on this platform is so people can have more information and know that some things are POSSIBLE and can be done, which is why I always preach upskilling and trying to do better (if circumstances allow it as everyone has different responsibilities).

Is it bad if Nigerians occupy top positions like the Indians?? Is it bad if we try to encourage each other to go for top positions? If you go interview and see 2 Nigerians on the panel at a top multinational, is it bad?? The purpose of sharing things is not to engage in a dick measuring contest, it's a way for people to know that things are not out of our reach if we aim higher and put in the work

Believe what you believe or not, people earn really, really well in this same UK we shout they're stingy with salaries. I lost a £44K offer (not a high salary but not bad per UK standards) last month to someone who was able to start immediately. It was a Security Analyst role at RCA and they were ready to offer sponsorship without thinking twice. Funny enough, the IT Manager was a Nigerian lady.
I just got back from a 2nd stage interview 1 hr ago and its a similar position, offering something similar

Spent about 1 hour on the phone with a friend of mine who got a job at one of the largest insurance companies in the world last week, total package, about £100,000 (Attached). Same guy still has an interview with Manchester United this week.

Another one got an offer with Lloyds Register; both of them aren't even 4 months old in the UK. These are not people I have heard of; they are close friends, so IT CAN BE DONE.

Again, It can be done smiley

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 9:14pm On Dec 05, 2023
hustla:



A topic was opened for debate for everyone owing to new rules and you just had to let this snide remark jump out. I have noticed this is also common among Nigerians in the UK Twitter (NIUK) community.

If people stop sharing their experiences, it's the same Nigerians like you who will say the Indians don't do this or that. The purpose of sharing on this platform is so people can have more information and know that some things are POSSIBLE and can be done, which is why I always preach upskilling and trying to do better (if circumstances allow it as everyone has different responsibilities).

Is it bad if Nigerians occupy top positions like the Indians?? Is it bad if we try to encourage each other to go for top positions? If you go interview and see 2 Nigerians on the panel at a top multinational, is it bad?? The purpose of sharing things is not to engage in a dick measuring contest, it's a way for people to know that things are not out of our reach if we aim higher and put in the work

Believe what you believe or not, people earn really, really well in this same UK we shout they're stingy with salaries. I lost a £44K offer (not a high salary but not bad per UK standards) last month to someone who was able to start immediately. It was a Security Analyst role at RCA and they were ready to offer sponsorship without thinking twice. Funny enough, the IT Manager was a Nigerian lady.
I just got back from a 2nd stage interview 1 hr ago and its a similar position, offering something similar

Spent about 1 hour on the phone with a friend of mine who got a job at one of the largest insurance companies in the world last week, total package, about £100,000 (Attached). Same guy still has an interview with Manchester United this week.

Another one got an offer with Lloyds Register; both of them aren't even 4 months old in the UK. These are not people I have heard of; they are close friends, so IT CAN BE DONE.

Again, It can be done smiley

You are too much Hustla. You've always made good points and I respect you for that, just that those jobs are for a very few. The chances are tight. Reminds me of when we finished from UI then, BSc Geology, 3 of my classmates got jobs with Shell/NLNG while another 2 got PTDF scholarships... the remaining about 25 of us weren't so lucky... Many of us entered banking/corporate world because it employed a larger percentage of graduates. Today, we all good in our own way. In a nutshell, just be grateful for what you've got and give your best. Those high earning jobs are very few.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 9:25pm On Dec 05, 2023
ehizario2012:


You are too much Hustla. You've always made good points and I respect you for that, just that those jobs are for a very few. The chances are tight. Reminds me of when we finished from UI then, BSc Geology, 3 of my classmates got jobs with Shell/NLNG while another 2 got PTDF scholarships... the remaining about 25 of us weren't so lucky... Many of us entered banking/corporate world because it employed a larger percentage of graduates. Today, we all good in our own way. In a nutshell, just be grateful for what you've got and give your best. Those high earning jobs are very few.

I do understand that Nigeria has limited opportunities, but in the UK, we can at least try given the right information, which is why this thread exists. individual circumstances may differ but where there is a will, there will likely be a way. The people who are doing these things also sat up one day and put in the work, nothing good comes easy. Most times, I am up at 9am in front of the PC till 9pm as I am a student on 20 hrs, learning, going through courses etc

What gingered me to seat up in life and try to do better was when I saw two of my old friends / classmates in Nigeria who had left for the UK . One had turned Financial Controller at Goldman Sachs and another , Senior Manager at EY. Made me see things different and try to also aim for good stuff. After all, them no get two heads which is my point.

I was in a dead city, hanging out with people who talk negatively about opportunities, also believing that it could not be done until I decided to wake up

I pray we all get to the top. It wont hurt to see Nigerians heading Google, Meta, HSBC and the likes in different roles / capacities

smiley

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by LionInZion: 9:27pm On Dec 05, 2023
Peerielass:


@Goke7 as our class monitor can you please advise what the average wage is for this week as it appears to change every few weeks on this thread 😝. Last time I checked it was about £70K.

So una don dey choose prefects for this thread without election? shocked shocked

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by gmacnoms(m): 9:30pm On Dec 05, 2023
hustla:



A topic was opened for debate for everyone owing to new rules and you just had to let this snide remark jump out. I have noticed this is also common among Nigerians in the UK Twitter (NIUK) community.

If people stop sharing their experiences, it's the same Nigerians like you who will say the Indians don't do this or that. The purpose of sharing on this platform is so people can have more information and know that some things are POSSIBLE and can be done, which is why I always preach upskilling and trying to do better (if circumstances allow it as everyone has different responsibilities).

Is it bad if Nigerians occupy top positions like the Indians?? Is it bad if we try to encourage each other to go for top positions? If you go interview and see 2 Nigerians on the panel at a top multinational, is it bad?? The purpose of sharing things is not to engage in a dick measuring contest, it's a way for people to know that things are not out of our reach if we aim higher and put in the work

Believe what you believe or not, people earn really, really well in this same UK we shout they're stingy with salaries. I lost a £44K offer (not a high salary but not bad per UK standards) last month to someone who was able to start immediately. It was a Security Analyst role at RCA and they were ready to offer sponsorship without thinking twice. Funny enough, the IT Manager was a Nigerian lady.
I just got back from a 2nd stage interview 1 hr ago and its a similar position, offering something similar

Spent about 1 hour on the phone with a friend of mine who got a job at one of the largest insurance companies in the world last week, total package, about £100,000 (Attached). Same guy still has an interview with Manchester United this week.

Another one got an offer with Lloyds Register; both of them aren't even 4 months old in the UK. These are not people I have heard of; they are close friends, so IT CAN BE DONE.

Again, It can be done smiley
Try Dey calm down and have fun sometimes. Life no too serious. . Meanwhile, na Kaya I still Dey do., and e no mean say I no get where I Dey go. Try they chill sometimes

Stop pushing the narratives of the outliers please. 80k/100k is an outlier and takes lots and years of dedication to a career path. Stop using the outliers as a norm

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