Ibime:


I'm not talking about what's realistic. I'm simply providing anecdotal evidence that Chidekings may not be telling tales as he is being accused of.

Oh sure. That's very possible.

Some people bought and held Bittcoin after MMM exposed them to it and it has turned their life around.

I remember my friend investing Au$10K (4mill plus) to buy land last year in naija as investment… dude was pressuring me to think home say money Dey naija…Even if he sells that same land 7million, he still no make his AU$10K.
I get Don J though… Some factors like education and interest won’t allow you to japa… His uncle is doing well and probably didn’t start with 20mill.

The other thing is, if you have 20mill… young and educated… Japa is the biggest investment.
20Mill is what some personal income tax in one year…. That money won’t do much.
You can barely afford to build a house in a making sense environment, buy car, fuel the car and feed family.

Ballzproblem2:
you start from rags to riches (phone charging biz). them hate.

you make over £13k a month,them still hate .

there's no winning here.

Realmrsean:
gironaa has been impressive this season

Very.

They should've buried the game by now.

Xavi may have shot himself in the foot with these younguns he just brought on. No be everybody go turn to Mbappe. Some of them will be a Martial.

Unlimited22:

People just dey hail am since as the news fall out.

We even heard that if you go to bail them, you join them and chill small.

Road that we have suffered on. Port Harcourt to Aba no normally suppose reach one hour journey if you're taking off from, say, Eleme Junction.


But road turn am to almost four hours. Buses coming from Umuahia to Port-Harcourt go Through Owerrinta to Ngor-Okpala into Etche just to circumvent Aba.

One bastard come put mụ for road wey Julius Berger wán fix.
LMAO

The governor made the right decision. Man is very intentional about his agenda for the state. Typical Nigerian governor/politician go wan settle dem cox he's looking @ next election. Those who sent them 2 block the road will surely fight back...

donjazet:


You have been shouting, JAPA JAPA!!!!

If it was easy, why haven't you done it??
It's easy for a drunkard like you to just lay on your bed shouting JAPA JAPA when you don't even have the means to do it.

Do you know what it takes to establish a comfortable life abroad?? I know it's not easy, I have been working towards it and failing for 2 years now.
You need at least 20 million naira to live comfortably abroad due of our very weak currency and low purchasing power.

20 million naira is just 40,000 pounds. That's nothing in UK, that won't last you 1 complete year. Simple things like football jersey is 200 pounds. They can afford these things easily. You that is converting from your local currency will shed tears.

Let's talk the huge cultural shift, we've seen how extremely homophobic you are here.

Are you ready to work under a transgender boss like Ibime said he once did?? Would you be comfortable walking on the road and seeing 2 men kiss everywhere you went??

I don't mind personally, but for someone as foolish and hateful as yourself, these are small examples of the cultural shift which can be disconcerting.

Talking about PVC. Boy, do you actually think things thoroughly?? Both of us know that a street urchin like you has no future abroad, you, personally will be here in the next 4 years and you would still be complaining foolishly about the terrible leaders of Nigeria, instead of you to join hands with your fellow citizens and vote in the right people, you would rather keep shouting ABROAD ABROAD! When they can't accept a foolish person like you.

I have the memory of an elephant, so when I do call backs, you might not remember but I do.

Donjazzet, you made this post in response to a call to japa, shortly after that church massacre in Oyo state

That was in June 2022. This is December 2023.

In the space of a year 20 million naira went from £40k to £13k.

That's 70% of the value of the Naira lost in a year Sir.

donjazet:


When these particular people abroad tell you plainly, NIGERIA WILL NEVER WORK! That, in and of itself is an indictment of their mentality.

Listen bro, when both of us discuss or argue politics, it's very different from us arguing football because we recognize we are talking about issues that affect our lives directly. We are arguing who is the best leader to position that would enact favorable economic policies, policies that would assuage the effects of inflation, policies that would enable the revival of industries that would create better employment opportunities.

Donjazzet made this post in June, just last year.

Since then GSK has left Nigeria. Procter & Gamble have left Nigeria. Sanofi have left Nigeria. 3 of the biggest multinationals in the world have decided that Nigeria had no future for them.

My point is bigger than any shalaye you might think I'm making, and I'm not taking shots at you.

My advice has been consistent. Any ambitious and aspiring Nigeria should leave Nigeria as soon as he can because I can see the opportunities here.

What is coming to Nigeria is worse. Much worse. And I say that as someone who has heavy financial investments in that hell-hole. I know for a fact I can never recoup my money.

Nigeria is finished. What you're seeing is the final spasms of a dead organism.

JAPA. First.

Leave talk of collective blah blah to who no know road.

Save yourself.

Nihilistjnr shebi na person wey get ear go hear? The more you delay, the more difficult it'll get.

Money for passport, visa application, POF, etc, Dem no dey come down. Na so so up Dem dey go. The comfort you think you're enjoying, na one day something go happen wey go make you realize say na inside illusion you dey live.

OasisX:


......kudos to Alex Otti, he did the right thing.

Leyqute:
Nihilistjnr shebi na person wey get ear go hear? The more you delay, the more difficult it'll get.

Money for passport, visa application, POF, etc, Dem no dey come down. Na so so up Dem dey go. The comfort you think you're enjoying, na one day something go happen wey go make you realize say na inside illusion you dey live.

but this japa should be taken with a pinch of salt.. not all abroad is abroad..

Look at Ukraine for example.. 2 years ago, it was El dorado for japarians especially student visa applicants.. putin has singlehandedly turned it to rubbles ..

Look nihilist is saying naija is finished, he forgot to see the ever boiling international war mongering and boiling especially all Over Europe.. you might wake up one day and start seeing fighter jets and missiles flying all over your roof..

Nowhere is that safe haven.. some people finds peace in naija.. as well as some finds in japa..

nihilistjnr:


I have the memory of an elephant, so when I do call backs, you might not remember but I do.
Donjazzet, you made this post in response to a call to japa, shortly after that church massacre in Oyo state
That was in June 2022. This is December 2023.

In the space of a year 20 million naira went from £40k to £13k.

That's 70% of the value of the Naira lost in a year Sir.
Donjazzet made this post in June, just last year.
Since then GSK has left Nigeria. Procter & Gamble have left Nigeria. Sanofi have left Nigeria. 3 of the biggest multinationals in the world have decided that Nigeria had no future for them.

My point is bigger than any shalaye you might think I'm making, and I'm not taking shots at you.

My advice has been consistent. Any ambitious and aspiring Nigeria should leave Nigeria as soon as he can because I can see the opportunities here.

What is coming to Nigeria is worse. Much worse. And I say that as someone who has heavy financial investments in that hell-hole. I know for a fact I can never recoup my money.

Nigeria is finished. What you're seeing is the final spasms of a dead organism.
JAPA. First.
Leave talk of collective blah blah to who no know road.
Save yourself.

You are still missing my point by a very wide margin and doing the exact same thing I'm talking about.


We're not arguing the merits and demerits of emigration (japaing). And indeed they are. But when you can accept the simple fact that not every single nigerian can or will emigrate out of the country, then perhaps you begin to see the point I'm making. Nigeria will always exist and there will be people here to make Nigeria whatever it will be.

The mindset that Nigeria WILL NEVER WORK is a hugely insulting fallacy to all of us. Because we have seen with our eyes countries that transformed from very poor nations to wealthy nations in the twinkle of an eye. India is estimated to be a 20 trillion economy within the next 2 decades, Singapore is the 12th richest country, South Korea has no natural resources but became very rich by technological innovation and industries. China used it's human resources to be the manufacturing hub of the world with a third of global industries having their factories there and lifting them out of poverty.

Also, there are soo many nigerians who have lived fruitful lives, I will use my own parents as example. I look at my parents and I see very comfortable people above their 50s who are living very comfortably. With a business earning them some millions and some landed properties. They live in an estate with constant light, they eat whatever they want and I'm sure they would tell you they have lived a blissful fulfilled life together. These were government civil servants who rose steadily through the ranks and pulled their resources together.

I think that a lot of nigerians are like my parents who have also lived relatively good and comfortable lives. The country is failing but it is not a failed state yet and can be turned around.


Stop inserting the discuss of japa when we talk about the state of the nation.
Japa could very well be a splendid advice but ultimately meaningless to the vast majority of nigerians who can't and those who won't japa.

Makamatic:


U believe that charging , viewing centre ati bebelo story . The man na Jack of all trades , master of none . Entrepreneurship is very hard g

it's not about wether I believe or not.

people just they vex for am and it's amusing

Realmrsean:
but this japa should be taken with a pinch of salt.. not all abroad is abroad..

Look at Ukraine for example.. 2 years ago, it was El dorado for japarians especially student visa applicants.. putin has singlehandedly turned it to rubbles ..

Look nihilist is saying naija is finished, he forgot to see the ever boiling international war mongering and boiling especially all Over Europe.. you might wake up one day and start seeing fighter jets and missiles flying all over your roof..

Nowhere is that safe haven.. some people finds peace in naija.. as well as some finds in japa..

in addendum

A war is more likely to breakout In Europe than it will break out in Nigeria..

I'm ready to put my money in this..

I will say this again. Emigration is an unfortunate human disaster. It's usually a last resort for many who feel like they have no option but to run away from all that they hold dear. And millions of nigerians don't believe that Nigeria is a failed state or is doomed to eventually be a failed state.

In as much as things are bad for Nigeria, they are still a lot better than a lot of places. Nigeria is still highly ranked ahead of other African countries and even some south American countries. Cuba, Ecuador, Colombia etc where violence is practically a way of life and life expectancy basically doesn't exist due to a culture of violence from birth. Children smoking, child soldiers etc. many other African countries too, but I digress.

Discussions and conversations about our country, it's governance, it's institutions, it's fault lines should not be blurred and muddled by talks of japa. As we're not talking about individual endeavors but our collective societies.
If not for us, for our descendants. The descendants of those who stayed when china was very bad are those enjoying the wealth of the country today.

On an individual level, yes, you can decide to japa but as I've said, it's not a permanent solution, some of us, the "unambitious"ones will strive to see our country work.

nihilistjnr:

I have the memory of an elephant, so when I do call backs, you might not remember but I do.

Donjazzet, you made this post in response to a call to japa, shortly after that church massacre in Oyo state

That was in June 2022. This is December 2023.

In the space of a year 20 million naira went from £40k to £13k.

That's 70% of the value of the Naira lost in a year Sir.



Donjazzet made this post in June, just last year.

Since then GSK has left Nigeria. Procter & Gamble have left Nigeria. Sanofi have left Nigeria. 3 of the biggest multinationals in the world have decided that Nigeria had no future for them.

My point is bigger than any shalaye you might think I'm making, and I'm not taking shots at you.

My advice has been consistent. Any ambitious and aspiring Nigeria should leave Nigeria as soon as he can because I can see the opportunities here.

What is coming to Nigeria is worse. Much worse. And I say that as someone who has heavy financial investments in that hell-hole. I know for a fact I can never recoup my money.

Nigeria is finished. What you're seeing is the final spasms of a dead organism.

JAPA. First.

Leave talk of collective blah blah to who no know road.

Save yourself.

You make it sound like doomsday. Lol.

However, people have said GSK leaving naija isn't because of bad economic situations, but because of the fact that it is more convenient and profitable for them to import their drugs, rather than manufacture it here.

Beside, GSK also left Kenya, India and other countries. Why make it sound like naija is the only country they left?

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/after-similar-moves-kenya-india-gsk-telegraphs-commercial-halt-nigeria

I know its so much like a typical capitalist to give lame ass excused, when he or she discovers ways of making profit. Still, I understand, its after all, just business, no sentiment.

Realmrsean:
but this japa should be taken with a pinch of salt.. not all abroad is abroad..

Look at Ukraine for example.. 2 years ago, it was El dorado for japarians especially student visa applicants.. putin has singlehandedly turned it to rubbles ..

Look nihilist is saying naija is finished, he forgot to see the ever boiling international war mongering and boiling especially all Over Europe.. you might wake up one day and start seeing fighter jets and missiles flying all over your roof..

Nowhere is that safe haven.. some people finds peace in naija.. as well as some finds in japa..

Okay sir.

One of my guys had this same mentality a couple of years ago. He argues with these same points. But today, the werey is in UK. He now hates 9ja and your govt with passion.

Of course no be everybody go go. War dey Europe and war no dey naija. Missiles dey fly for Ukraine, missile no dey Maidiguri. Please keep hustling in naija. God go pick your calls.

Ibime:


What do they gain from keeping that road in disrepair

They probably made an economy from running roadblocks there

Your Ogoni and Onne distant cousins did same when GEJ was reconstructing the Eleme - Ogoni - Ikot Abasi highway in 2010/2011/2012. It's why most of the Rivers part of that road is very bad and why getting your goods from Onne Port is daunting.

OasisX:

if ur into business,you won't doubt this....if not for safety, i would have disclosed who the person is.it was all legal buying and selling.when u do business and with many things in life,luck and timing is your greatest friend.

DissTroy:


Your Ogoni and Onne distant cousins did same when GEJ was reconstructing the Eleme - Ogoni - Ikot Abasi highway in 2010/2011/2012. It's why most of the Rivers part of that road is very bad and why getting your goods from Onne Port is daunting.

That must be early Goodluck days cos I went to Uyo in 2014 and didn't see a single pothole on that road

Ibime:


That must be early Goodluck days cos I went to Uyo in 2014 and didn't see a single pothole on that road

Huh? From Akpajo to Trailer Park to Onne and parts of the Ogoni axis were and are bad.

Except you accessed the road from the roads veering off it after these areas. From then on, it's a smooth cruise with no pothole.

DissTroy:


Huh? From Akpajo to Trailer Park to Onne and parts of the Ogoni axis were and are bad.

Except you accessed the road from the roads veering off it after these areas. From then on, it's a smooth cruise with no pothole.

I accessed from Eleme Junction coming from Okrika. Not one pothole straight through to Uyo. The only thing jagged was the central dividers which weren't straight. I commented on the shoddy job by the contractor for the dividers. If you drift off for one second you can crash into the central reservation while driving in a straight line.

OasisX:




......seems he wanted to type 400k though. LOL!

What you should have done was ask him what the business is. That you haven’t seen it does not mean it has never happened.

Don’t be an alaigbagbo.

DissTroy:


Huh? From Akpajo to Trailer Park to Onne and parts of the Ogoni axis were and are bad.

Except you accessed the road from the roads veering off it after these areas. From then on, it's a smooth cruise with no pothole.

Those roads went bad rather recently. I went to Uyo from Eleme Junction in 2019 and 2020 and that ride was smooth as butter aside the numerous checkpoints.

Leyqute:


Very.

They should've buried the game by now.

Xavi may have shot himself in the foot with these younguns he just brought on. No be everybody go turn to Mbappe. Some of them will be a Martial.

Forget the younguns. Xavi na Lampard pro max. if no be ex player bias, dis man no fit coach Lobi Stars. The man na fraud.

Unlimited22:

People just dey hail am since as the news fall out.

We even heard that if you go to bail them, you join them and chill small.

Road that we have suffered on. Port Harcourt to Aba no normally suppose reach one hour journey if you're taking off from, say, Eleme Junction.


But road turn am to almost four hours. Buses coming from Umuahia to Port-Harcourt go Through Owerrinta to Ngor-Okpala into Etche just to circumvent Aba.



One bastard come put ọmụ for road wey Julius Berger wán fix.

LMAO

Guy ngwa people are very dumb. I never see.

They are the only igbos that worries so much about visitors . . . Be you igbo man or non igbo, as long as you are hustling on their land, they feel entitled to some rights. Once some one tell me he or she is from Ngwa, I lose interest and have my guards up when dealing with them.

1$=1300 soon

OasisX:


......kudos to Alex Otti, he did the right thing.

Way to go.

Ibime:


What do they gain from keeping that road in disrepair

They probably made an economy from running roadblocks there

The black man in all his glory

popizaino:


The black man in all his glory

Nigerians you mean

obainojazz:
I remember my friend investing Au$10K (4mill plus) to buy land last year in naija as investment… dude was pressuring me to think home say money Dey naija…Even if he sells that same land 7million, he still no make his AU$10K.
I get Don J though… Some factors like education and interest won’t allow you to japa… His uncle is doing well and probably didn’t start with 20mill.

The other thing is, if you have 20mill… young and educated… Japa is the biggest investment.
20Mill is what some personal income tax in one year…. That money won’t do much.
You can barely afford to build a house in a making sense environment, buy car, fuel the car and feed family.

can you afford to do the emboldened in the country you reside, when the money is converted?

Incognito9:
1$=1300 soon

is it not favoring you and your family?

joseph1832:
can you afford to do the emboldened in the country you reside, when the money is converted?

I’ll invite you for house warming one day…. Both in Australia and Nigeria