Ghostagain:

You are asking me what my point is eventhough I was extremely clear, while "The people in your map precolonial still migrated still" needs to be translated.

Exactly everyone is a migrant where ever they settled.. Europe, asia, Africa etc so what is your point? Why then do we claim Nigeria as our own? Because according to u on your map i see no Nigeria there!!! Why then disturb fulanis?

pquaver:


Why then do we claim Nigeria as our own? Because according to u on your map i see no Nigeria there!!! Why then disturb fulanis?

When was Nigeria created and when was the map published ?
That will tell you why there is no Nigeria on the map.

The map can only show countries which existed before it was published, not countries which would come to exist hundreds of years after the publication of the map. The map maker wasn't a medium.

Tell me when "yorubaland" or "iboland" were ever countries ?

Ghostagain:

When was Nigeria created and when was the map published ?
That will tell you why there is no Nigeria on the map.

The map can only show countries which existed before it was published, not countries which would come to exist hundreds of years after the publication of the map. The map maker wasn't a medium.

Tell me when "yorubaland" or "iboland" were ever countries ?

Exactly there is no Biafra there too.. Why claim the area called igboland today? Why not let fulanis rest then?

pquaver:


Exactly there is no Biafra there too.. Why claim the area called igboland today? Why not let fulanis rest then?

I don't know why you focus so much on Fulani. If they are Nigerians and pay for the land or pay rent, nobody can kick them out.
If you are talking about criminal fulanis, then you need to ask the police (and law institutions) that question. I really don't understand what this has to do with me though.

ottersberger:
Pa George is correct. Igbos played their hands to those who now think they have held them by the balls.

Yes, they are up against a very treacherous, vindictive, ego-mongering, and envious tribe, who appreciates nothing and will do anything to showboat when their obvious weakness is laid bare.

Now is the time for the Igbo to once again, like their hated kin in the Orient, show why they, like them, did not drown in the war waged against them. Go back home systematically, build, and prosper.

Play their Lagos and remit to the homestead. When you leave, take your ingenuity with you. Come, they will. They must!.

Your chest beating is disgusting.
Which ingenuity?
So the giant strides by successive Lagos government is due to igbos ingenuity?
Leave Lagos today and see it prosper by leaps and bounds.
You only contribute to chaos, overpopulation in Lagos.
Your fake and substandard goods which 99.9% of you people sell contribute little or nothing to Lagos economy

The Igbos find it hard to swallow the hard truth which has been part of their problems in Nigeria.. You left your 5 tiny dot in a circle States in SE undeveloped to go and be developing Lagos and likes, where una get the sense from?
Charity they say begins at home but Igbo charity begins in far away lands... your folks in the East lack basic ammenities and infrastructure, no light or water to drink in some areas in SE but the old f0ol Iwuanyanwu is saying Igbos developed Lagos.. they left the gullies swallowing all their houses in Anambra to focus on Lagos, no be juju be that??

I'm glad Bode George told them the hard truth.. one thing I agree with him on. Let Igbos go home and develop their Lands.

Leave Lagos and South West for Yorubas that own the lands.. Think home, go home.

flokii:

Leave Lagos and South West for Yorubas that own the lands.. Think home, go home.

yorubas do not own lagos.

Ghostagain:

yorubas do not own lagos.

Yes we do.. Lagos is part of Yorubaland.
It's called ilu Eko ni ipinle Yoruba.

flokii:
they left the gullies swallowing all their houses in Anambra to focus on Lagos, no be juju be that??

Most people in Lagos do not originate from Lagos, including those tagging themselves "yoruba"

flokii:


Yes we do.. Lagos is part of Yorubaland.
It's called ilu Eko ni ipinle Yoruba.

What is the basis of "yoruba" ownership of Lagos. And please shove that ridiculous name where it belongs.

Show me "yorubaland" on a precolonial map and explain to me how the word "land" became an African word.

Ghostagain:

I'm not Igbo and not yoruba, tell me, when war came to "yorubas" in the form of the British, did the "yorubas" put up a fight ?
Everybody can be Jacki Chan on social media.

The Igbos are not supermen either. And they should not overestimate themselves. Wars are won with the brain, not with the muscle. That is why the one thing all empires have in common is civilisation, be it Benin empire, Malian empire, Ethiopian empire...

Lmao.
Just dey play
You go learn new things

Ghostagain:

Most people in Lagos do not originate from Lagos, including those tagging themselves "yoruba"

Yoruba is Yoruba..
Yorubas are one and united..

Yorubas in Lagos aren't separate from the ones in Osun, Oyo, Ogun and likes, even Benin republic and Togo Yorubas are stakeholders.

drmuri:

Lmao.
Just dey play
You go learn new things

An other ewarrior over here.

flokii:


Yoruba is Yoruba..
Yorubas are one and united..

Yorubas in Lagos aren't separate from the ones in Osun, Oyo, Ogun and likes, even Benin republic and Togo Yorubas are stakeholders.

Are you above 15 years old ? You talk as if you were 11 years old.

pquaver:


E reach ur turn constitution gave right to all Nigerians to residence but hate clouuded your sight to constitution when u supported ekpa, Mnk, ugm and ipob against Nigeria hausa fulani that they must leave igboland. Until una see say ekpa tactics didn't favor obi you turned to call him Tinubu sponsorred. Ndigbo hate truth... I swear. Una no go find peace until una begin talk truth..

funny enough how you think Igbos are in support of MNK and Ekpa. Less than 10% of Igbos care about this people. The average Igboman believes in dialogue in solving any problem, not this route taken by this deviants. Your statement is akin to saying all Yorubas were in support of Igboho.

No sincere Nigerian will jettison the fact that there are fundamental problems in our existence. If you're happy with the present state of Nigeria, then there's a problem.

All my life, I've always been a fan of one indivisible Nigeria. But with the current Nigeria, its structure and form and its current reality, it's a total failure. No one should be threatened in a country they call their own. This is pure hogwash. Once the opinion, rights and freedom of a people cannot be respected, and the issue of indigeneship becomes a topic of contention in our national life, then it's better we redefine our existence and let people go.

plaindealer:


It's gone beyond politics, their hatred and antics especially during the last elections exposed them, their hatred and intentions to the Yoruba people was across the board and beyond politics, they ended up waking up Yoruba people because Yoruba people regardless of politics collectively felt the attacks and denigration of their homeland, their people, culture and way of life.

What Yoruba people feel and are going through goes beyond politics because politics is quite different from attacks and threats to your land, people, leaders, traditions cultural institutions, and who you are as a people.

They did the Yoruba people a favor because Yoruba people's culture of tolerance passive nature, liberal and live and let live way of life is not serving them well.

Things are different now, thanks to ibo people for getting us to this point.

look the attack has come more from the southwest to the Igbos I see the hate you give to the Igbos, while I also see the hate the Igbos give to the Yorubas too, don't act like the Yoruba are the victims here.

Ghostagain:

What is the basis of "yoruba" ownership of Lagos. And please shove that ridiculous name where it belongs.

Show me "yorubaland" on a precolonial map and explain to me how the word "land" became an African word.

The original inhabitants of a place are regarded as the owners of the land.. before the British came with their evil colonization agenda, Yorubas had built empires and had leadership structure in Lagos and other parts of Yorubaland.
The colonialists only brought a mild setback to our people which we are trying to put behind us now and rapidly develop our lands and region.

The Hausas are proud of their States, Yorubas are very proud of theirs.. Why is it only Igbos that are not proud of their States, chooking eye in other people's belongings upandan?

Mandate1:
funny enough how you think Igbos are in support of MNK and Ekpa. Less than 10% of Igbos care about this people. The average Igboman believes in dialogue in solving any problem, not this route taken by this deviants. Your statement is akin to saying all Yorubas were in support of Igboho.

No sincere Nigerian will jettison the fact that there are fundamental problems in our existence. If you're happy with the present state of Nigeria, then there's a problem.

All my life, I've always been a fan of one indivisible Nigeria. But with the current Nigeria, its structure and form and what current reality, it's a total failure. No one should be threatened in a country they call their own. This is pure hogwash. Once the opinion, rights and freedom of a people cannot be respected, and the issue of indigeneship becomes a topic of contention in our national life, then it's better we redefine our existence and let people go.

If you were talking to a hausa or yoruba man, you would have gotten away woth the lie bolded.. But as an igboman who knows the agenda.. I only laugh.. Ekpa refused to play boy u turned from supporting him to saying tinubu sponsored him just because obi chanceswere affected by ugm.. U can foll other but what u as igboman know e sef as igboman know am.. That thing u hold the papa na me hold the mama..

For the rest of your message.. Ndigbo need to work on theirselved and leave other tribes alone.. That is the absolite truth.. Hate it or love na fact... What stops the general collective effort of southeast development? The truth why it wont work is we know some people we gather to embezzle the funds...

flokii:


The original inhabitants of a place are regarded as the owners of the land.. before the British came with their evil colonization agenda, Yorubas had built empires and had leadership system in Lagos and other parts of Yorubaland.
The colonialists only brought a mild setback to our people which we are trying to put behind us now and rapidly develop our lands and region.

Precolonial map of Africa published in 1747 (by Emanuel Bowen) below. Show me your "yoruba" empires on it.

Odin13:


See as Chief rub am small.. Yoruba elderly man start to the cry like yarimo for nairaland..

If truth Na living thing baaa?
.... this people for don the fight with am per second.

Tell them truth.. Na to abuse and curse, next Na to go tribal and clannish..

Na then call themselves “ sophisticators “ ..

This people sef ..

Man go Dey force to ask?

Wetin Dey work dem.. e too different

Mental suckler.

Entprys:
Why is truth this bitter ?

And Igbos always hate the truth ?

Ibo culture is based on lying, cheating and hypocrisy. That's why the hate truth, and they consider anyone saying the truth and bringing facts as "hating on igbos". In summary igbophobia means truth.

Ghostagain:

I don't know why you focus so much on Fulani. If they are Nigerians and pay for the land or pay rent, nobody can kick them out.
If you are talking about criminal fulanis, then you need to ask the police (and law institutions) that question. I really don't understand what this has to do with me though.

Okay nice one fulani are not Nigerians.. I wont focus on them because u dont like the narrative.. Why then focus on igbos?

flokii:


.. before the British came with their evil colonization agenda, Yorubas had built empires and had leadership structure in Lagos and other parts of Yorubaland.

People who witnessed Precolonial Lagos disagree with your unsubstantiated opinion:

Ghostagain:




Eyewitness writen precolonial text stating clearly that Lagos belongs to Benin:

"Captain Horseley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs. Long ago Korame was linked to its metropolis by a very narrow piece of land contained between the great Laguna and the sea; but it has been a while since the Yebous have seazed that very narrow piece of land of which the eastern extremity was invaded by ouyo pirates; and Karamé remained isolated at the extremity of the great Laguna, while it continues to receive from Benin it's governor or political chief."

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5806879x.r=Y%C3%A9bou?rk=21459;2

Precolonial map of the region showing that Lagos (in its currents form) and its environs were part of Benin (see below)
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=150215;2

outoftheworld:
It's obvious, most of the Yorubas are intimidated by the Igbos

Delusions of grandeur Yi naa ni.
What is there to be intimidated about the average Igbo man?
Apart from money which are largely proceeds of crime, what real virtue does he possess?
It is only in Igbo land that money is everything.
When you have real omoluabi ethos, you are worthy of respect, but a money bag criminal is just another criminal

chopnaira:

This one handicap me ooo. Bode George is pro LP for Lagos governor and pro PDP for federal.

What happened to him? He was a good friend of the ibos..That's the 2nd PDP/LP chieftain to come out in a space of 3 days to tell ibos to face their own region. The first was Segun Sowunmi.

Ibos are experts at shooting themselves in the foot. By nature, they don't have the intellectual capacity to keep their supporters on their side, because words like loyalty, honor, concession etc are not part of their lexicon. It's either nzogbu nzogbu or nothing.

pquaver:


Okay nice one fulani are not Nigerians.. I wont focus on them because u dont like the narrative.. Why then focus on igbos?

I have no idea of what you are talking about. I don't know what "narrative" you see in your head, and I don't know why you claim fulanis are not Nigerians, obviously not all fulanis are Nigerians but some fulanis are Nigerians.
You are not making any sense.

flokii:


The original inhabitants of a place are regarded as the owners of the land..

And you determine who the "original inhabitants" are by playing "who can shout the loudest" ?
All that can be obtained as information is the pre-colonial country in which Lagos was a sub-territory, and that is Benin kingdom.

aestake:

You no even get a house in Lagos.

But your papa wey get house, na we dey demolish am, use the rubbles patch roads.
Who mumu pass?

The expansionist agenda of the Ibos have been openly bursted.

Ghostagain:

And you determine who the "original inhabitants" are by playing "who can shout the loudest" ?
All that can be obtained as information is the pre-colonial country in which Lagos was a sub-territory, and that is Benin kingdom.

Benin Kingdom was under the Yoruba rulership in Ile-Ife, they spoke Yoruba languange in the Oba's palace in Benin back in the days.

You sound like someone without a village or one who isn't proud of his ancestry.. may we know where you hail from?

madridguy:
The expansionist agenda of the Ibos have been openly bursted.

Igbos are expansionists, but so is yoruba as well. Lagos is not part of your imaginary "yorubaland", even the term "yorubaland" betrays expansionist desires

Go and sit down and be proud of your region for once. Stop dragging Lagos with the Yorubas. Make your region attractive and see investors rushing there.

Ghostagain:

Igbos are expansionists, but so is yoruba as well. Lagos is not part of your imaginary "yorubaland", even the term "yorubaland" betrays expansionist desires