Sand2022:

No.
They generally don't disfellowship disorderly persons. They only give warning talk about them.

The highlighted is WRONG!

We MUST disfellowship anyone who is walking disorderly before you become one of us you would have learned all the things that leads to disfellowship but when you MISTAKENLY does it we MUST make sure it's not intentional so that you will be WARNED but then if you're not willing to accept the discipline we will show you the door: DISFELLOWSHIP!

Sakody:
Look at a popular New Media Outlet, Aljazeera, reporting on Child Sexual Abuse in Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses. A popular New Media Outlet is exposing how deliberate Jehovah's Witnesses have been in covering up Child Sexual Abuse by claiming that details of The abuse should be private and should not be given to the authorities. This is supposed to be a One True Religion o. Fighting to cover up or hide Child Sexual abuse. Is this not shameful? Look at their embarrassment being shown to the outside world. And some people are here talking about JWs leaving because of beards. Look at how they treat victims of child sexual abuse. Victims don't matter. All what matters to Watchtower is maintaining a fake image. Na one true religion be this o.

How many Jehovah's Witnesses know that there is an ongoing investigation on Jehovah's Witness Elders in Pennsylvania, United States? How many know this? Can they see this kind of News in Jworg? Never! Because it is a disgrace that the authorities are investigating you for helping children to be raped and in protecting Pedophiles. You are also hiding evidence which is why all the elders are being investigated and warned not to get rid of evidence else they will end up in prison.

How many Jehovah's witnesses know that Their fellow JWs were arrested in the US for Child sexual abuse?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZgtnpGyf5o?si=-UsCEBXgPdgZ_zfb

Arrested by Russia, the whole news will be on their App, Arrested for child abuse you will not hear Pim from any quarters

Anything negative are lies and maligning Jehovah’s name

achorladey:


She was bragging about books shelved in her house. Saying money used in the sale of kingdom halls are used to produce publications. I just dey Looool. Which publication 16 pages of watchtower or Awake released every 3 or 4 months for the public or watchtower study edition reduced to 4 times a year

Even their tracts are equally suffering cuts in production. They just like defending ignorance or purposely closing their eyes to reality or very much afraid of what they will lose when they open their eyes to reality

COVID 19 exposed a lot about them and that is becoming really difficult to cover up. .

We cannot forget their motto easily......

There is never a good way to leave Jehovah’s organization

Even those who fade are demonised, you disassociate you are demonised, you get disfellowshipped you become an unrepentant evil doer.

To show the extent to cover up their lies and manipulations they said those who choose to disassociate should be treated like a person disfellowshipped A chronic child abuser in their midst is treated same way as a person whose conscience cannot accept the way they are child abuse are handled there and choose to disassociate


What difference is their between Jesus being treated like a criminal in the midst of thieves? The Pharisees way of doing things don rub their body and they don't even know

Money used to produce publications? Publications that they are reducing small small and want to go digital? These JWs are way too ignorant. I pray God intervenes in their matter because they are under serious Spiritual prison. They don't know anything. Very sad.

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is WRONG!

We MUST disfellowship anyone who is walking disorderly before you become one of us you would have learned all the things that leads to disfellowship but when you MISTAKENLY does it we MUST make sure it's not intentional so that you will be WARNED but then if you're not willing to accept the discipline we will show you the door: DISFELLOWSHIP!

You don start your lies and manipulations packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains abi?

MARKING DISORDERLY ONES 76

At times it may be necessary to mark those who display a flagrant disregard for Jehovah’s standards though not practicing a grave sin that merits judicial action. (2 Thess. 3:6, 14, 15; w99 7/15 pp. 29-31) This could include such things as being grossly lazy or critical or being a profitless talker who is a constant ‘meddler with what does not concern him.’ (2 Thess. 3:11) It may involve one who schemes to take material advantage of others, indulges in entertainment that is clearly improper, dates an unbeliever, or dates when not legally or Scripturally free.—od chap. 14 pars. 9-12. 77. If the disorderly conduct is generally unknown to others and poses no threat to their spiritual well-being, usually it is best to handle things through admonition and counsel. The body of elders should not be hasty in deciding to give a warning talk. However, if the individual does not see the error of his way but continues to be an unwholesome influence, a warning talk may be given to the congregation. Elders must use reasonableness and discernment in determining whether a particular situation is sufficiently serious and disturbing to require a warning talk.

It is that last part I want Sand2022 to concentrate upon. The foot soldiers have the leeway to use what they call reasonableness and discernment to send the disorderly packing out of that religious organization

Sakody:

To be inspired by the Holy Spirit requires you to be Led by the Holy Spirit. You have to submit to it to be inspired. It is what the Holy Spirit tells you to do that you do. Being led and being inspired is the same thing.

I've forgotten that it's you but that's not a problem i will respond to this!

God's Holy leads Christians through the study of INSPIRED EXPRESSIONS while INSPIRED EXPRESSIONS is imposed on the writer who is fallible.

For instance Jesus chose Peter as spokesman for the apostles but them Peter often commits blunders due to imperfection.

It simply means at a time God's Holy Spirit will inspire him yet when it comes to being led he must rely on the decision of the Body after thoroughly considering the scriptures.

achorladey:



Arrested by Russia, the whole news will be on their App, Arrested for child abuse you will not hear Pim from any quarters

Anything negative are lies and maligning Jehovah’s name

Thank you jare. If the Russians arrest them, they will make big announcement on front page of jworg. But if they are arrested for Child Sexual abuse, you won't see anything in their site. Whereas, BBC and co will carry the news o. I am sure they will call CNN and BBC Apostates. What do they have to say about Aljazeera exposing them now? Are they Apostates too? Nonsense!.

Sakody:


Money used to produce publications? Publications that they are reducing small small and want to go digital? These JWs are way too ignorant. I pray God intervenes in their matter because they are under serious Spiritual prison. They don't know anything. Very sad.

Na their type will tell us once you leave the organization you don't know anything about what is happening inside again

Their eyes only see what they want it to see. Publications that some are classed as to be destroyed

MaxInDHouse:

Bunch of rubbish once again

You think you typed something. What you typed is rubbish. Don't twist words here. No one here is stupid. We all understand basic English.

To be inspired by the Holy Spirit requires you to be Led by the Holy Spirit. You have to submit to it to be inspired. It is what the Holy Spirit tells you to do that you do. Being led and being inspired is the same thing. You just wasted space in typing nonsense.

Your god's in Warwick claimed not to be inspired at all. They are admitting to you that they are not being led by the Holy Spirit. And they proved it to you by having too many changed doctrines and False prophecies. The doctrines you had at the time of your founder are not what you have now. They showed proof that all what they have been feeding you and will continue to feed you are nothing but their imaginations and opinions. If you are being led/inspired by the Holy Spirit, your doctrines will never change. You will never have false prophecies because these changes make God and Jesus look like Liars who don't know what they are doing.

As long as your god's have admitted to this, they are also telling you that they enjoy making God a Liar.

Default mode again!
Type something new not stereotype comment if you want to prove you're wise!

Sakody:

You think you typed something. What you typed is rubbish. Don't twist words here. No one here is stupid. We all understand basic English.
To be inspired by the Holy Spirit requires you to be Led by the Holy Spirit. You have to submit to it to be inspired. It is what the Holy Spirit tells you to do that you do. Being led and being inspired is the same thing. You just wasted space in typing nonsense.
Your god's in Warwick claimed not to be inspired at all. They are admitting to you that they are not being led by the Holy Spirit. And they proved it to you by having too many changed doctrines and False prophecies. The doctrines you had at the time of your founder are not what you have now. They showed proof that all what they have been feeding you and will continue to feed you are nothing but their imaginations and opinions. If you are being led/inspired by the Holy Spirit, your doctrines will never change. You will never have false prophecies because these changes make God and Jesus look like Liars who don't know what they are doing.
As long as your god's have admitted to this, they are also telling you that they enjoy making God a Liar.

MaxInDHouse:
Default mode again!
Type something new not stereotype comment if you want to prove you're wise!

You think you typed something. What you typed is rubbish. Don't twist words here. No one here is stupid. We all understand basic English.
To be inspired by the Holy Spirit requires you to be Led by the Holy Spirit. You have to submit to it to be inspired. It is what the Holy Spirit tells you to do that you do. Being led and being inspired is the same thing. You just wasted space in typing nonsense.
Your god's in Warwick claimed not to be inspired at all. They are admitting to you that they are not being led by the Holy Spirit. And they proved it to you by having too many changed doctrines and False prophecies. The doctrines you had at the time of your founder are not what you have now. They showed proof that all what they have been feeding you and will continue to feed you are nothing but their imaginations and opinions. If you are being led/inspired by the Holy Spirit, your doctrines will never change. You will never have false prophecies because these changes make God and Jesus look like Liars who don't know what they are doing.
As long as your god's have admitted to this, they are also telling you that they enjoy making God a Liar.

What is God's will according to the Bible?
Which group is unitedly doing God's will today?

Sakody:

You think you typed something. What you typed is rubbish. Don't twist words here. No one here is stupid. We all understand basic English.
To be inspired by the Holy Spirit requires you to be Led by the Holy Spirit. You have to submit to it to be inspired. It is what the Holy Spirit tells you to do that you do. Being led and being inspired is the same thing. You just wasted space in typing nonsense.
Your god's in Warwick claimed not to be inspired at all. They are admitting to you that they are not being led by the Holy Spirit. And they proved it to you by having too many changed doctrines and False prophecies. The doctrines you had at the time of your founder are not what you have now. They showed proof that all what they have been feeding you and will continue to feed you are nothing but their imaginations and opinions. If you are being led/inspired by the Holy Spirit, your doctrines will never change. You will never have false prophecies because these changes make God and Jesus look like Liars who don't know what they are doing.
As long as your god's have admitted to this, they are also telling you that they enjoy making God a Liar.

achorladey:


Na their type will tell us once you leave the organization you don't know anything about what is happening inside again

Their eyes only see what they want it to see. Publications that some are classed as to be destroyed

Don't mind them. They don't know that EXJWs know their religion like the back of their hands, much more than they will ever know in their many years in the Cult. Those their publications that expire like spoilt milk. They enjoy embarrassing God and making him look like a Liar with their ever changing doctrines. And they think that's normal.

Sakody:


But they have claimed to not be inspired that is not inspired by the Holy Spirit and can make mistakes. Meaning ,they will give you nothing but Man made doctrines, in fact their own understanding which is why your doctrines change all the time. How can someone who admits is not inspired still be led by the Holy Spirit? Is that not a contradiction? Does this make sense to you?

They re humble and imperfect men..They haven't ever claimed to be inspired, only the holy scriptures they held close their heart is inspired.
They speak the words of truth, they re not moved by putrid, murky dust of christopaganism.

May be your mind has been playing you tricks or you glad to accept everything against all moral senses.
Drop by daily for spiritual refreshment at or rekindle your lost faith at any kingdom hall nearest to you.
Https://jw.org

MaxInDHouse:
What is God's will according to the Bible?
Which group is unitedly doing God's will today?

You think you typed something. What you typed is rubbish. Don't twist words here. No one here is stupid. We all understand basic English.
To be inspired by the Holy Spirit requires you to be Led by the Holy Spirit. You have to submit to it to be inspired. It is what the Holy Spirit tells you to do that you do. Being led and being inspired is the same thing. You just wasted space in typing nonsense.
Your god's in Warwick claimed not to be inspired at all. They are admitting to you that they are not being led by the Holy Spirit. And they proved it to you by having too many changed doctrines and False prophecies. The doctrines you had at the time of your founder are not what you have now. They showed proof that all what they have been feeding you and will continue to feed you are nothing but their imaginations and opinions. If you are being led/inspired by the Holy Spirit, your doctrines will never change. You will never have false prophecies because these changes make God and Jesus look like Liars who don't know what they are doing.
As long as your god's have admitted to this, they are also telling you that they enjoy making God a Liar.

Default mode again!

What is God's will?
Which group is teaching their members today?

Sakody:

You think you typed something. What you typed is rubbish. Don't twist words here. No one here is stupid. We all understand basic English.
To be inspired by the Holy Spirit requires you to be Led by the Holy Spirit. You have to submit to it to be inspired. It is what the Holy Spirit tells you to do that you do. Being led and being inspired is the same thing. You just wasted space in typing nonsense.
Your god's in Warwick claimed not to be inspired at all. They are admitting to you that they are not being led by the Holy Spirit. And they proved it to you by having too many changed doctrines and False prophecies. The doctrines you had at the time of your founder are not what you have now. They showed proof that all what they have been feeding you and will continue to feed you are nothing but their imaginations and opinions. If you are being led/inspired by the Holy Spirit, your doctrines will never change. You will never have false prophecies because these changes make God and Jesus look like Liars who don't know what they are doing.
As long as your god's have admitted to this, they are also telling you that they enjoy making God a Liar.

highoctane:


They re humble and imperfect men..They haven't ever claimed to be inspired, only the holy scriptures they held close their heart is inspired.
They speak the words of truth, they re not moved by putrid, murky dust of christopaganism.

May be your mind has been playing you tricks or you glad to accept everything against all moral senses.
Drop by daily for spiritual refreshment at or rekindle your lost faith at any kingdom hall nearest to you.
Https://jw.org

You are not answering the question. Are you afraid that it could reveal something you are afraid of? Answer the question. Be straight forward.

They have claimed to not be inspired that is not inspired by the Holy Spirit and can make mistakes. Meaning ,they will give you nothing but Man made doctrines, in fact their own understanding which is why your doctrines change all the time. How can someone who admits is not inspired still be led by the Holy Spirit? Is that not a contradiction? Does this make sense to you? How can words of truth change to lies? Does your God lie?

MaxInDHouse:
Default mode again!

What is God's will?
Which group is teaching their members today?

You think you typed something. What you typed is rubbish. Don't twist words here. No one here is stupid. We all understand basic English.
To be inspired by the Holy Spirit requires you to be Led by the Holy Spirit. You have to submit to it to be inspired. It is what the Holy Spirit tells you to do that you do. Being led and being inspired is the same thing. You just wasted space in typing nonsense.
Your god's in Warwick claimed not to be inspired at all. They are admitting to you that they are not being led by the Holy Spirit. And they proved it to you by having too many changed doctrines and False prophecies. The doctrines you had at the time of your founder are not what you have now. They showed proof that all what they have been feeding you and will continue to feed you are nothing but their imaginations and opinions. If you are being led/inspired by the Holy Spirit, your doctrines will never change. You will never have false prophecies because these changes make God and Jesus look like Liars who don't know what they are doing.
As long as your god's have admitted to this, they are also telling you that they enjoy making God a Liar.

highoctane:


I am not honouring by giving you a reply.
The governing body starting from its first chairman apostle James till today's never claimed infallibility.
They speak as they re been lead by God's holy spirit.

These two scriptures will help you recover quite a bit, no hater or enemy of Jehovah and his people ever succeeded through the sand of history.

Proverbs chapter 19:3 "it is a man’s own foolishness that distorts his way,
And his heart becomes enraged against Jehovah.

Isaiah 41:11 Look! All those getting enraged against you will be put to shame and humiliated. Those who fight with you will be brought to nothing and perish.
Pharaoh, Nebuchadnezzar, Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Benito Mussolini never succeeded, what can a fickle dust of speech of mere man can rattle Jehovah's army.

I know it is what your GODS of men pack into your brains you exhibit here

I am not honouring by giving you a reply

Honor men of all sorts, have love for the whole association of brothers, be in fear of God honor the king.

Your statement above shows the extent and degree of lies and manipulations packed into your brains. When Satan entered into the midst of God during the case of Job, God gave him a hearing ear and honour to table his grievances . Jesus did likewise when tempted. I said earlier once a person leaves that religious organization you belong even a rat is more valuable than them in your eyes. Your honour dey comot money for central bank of Nigeria mtschewwww

The governing body starting from its first chairman apostle James till today's never claimed infallibility. They speak as they re been lead by God's holy spirit.

Remove apostle James from your lies and manipulations of governing body doctrine. You even called him chairman. Which Bible verse dem use teach and pack that nonsense inside your brains? . Your GODS of men words are not inspired and they are fallible. The words of James and the rest are inspired and infallible.

These two scriptures will help you recover quite a bit, no hater or enemy of Jehovah and his people ever succeeded through the sand of history.

You that is always running away from those you call apostates wants to recover me, you ever see Jesus running away from Satan or Jehovah running away from Satan. You witness that kind madness before in your Bible?

Read this one first

Submit yourselves, then, to God(not to your GODS of men aka Governing Body) +. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Jehovah's Witnesses must keep running from those they call apostates because your "truth" get exposed as lies

Proverbs chapter 19:3 "it is a man’s own foolishness that distorts his way, And his heart becomes enraged against Jehovah.

In your badly manipulated brains my ways are distorted as a result of choosing not to follows errors and mistakes in doctrines and organization direction by your GODS who said God is dignifying you by asking you not to report your hours now which in essence it was undignified thing in the past . My heart is enraged against Jehovah because Achorladey do not dance to tune of your lies and manipulations

Isaiah 41:11 Look! All those getting enraged against you will be put to shame and humiliated. Those who fight with you will be brought to nothing and perish.

For your eyes you sabi Bible . First open your eyes to know that those of us who left and are responding to your lies and manipulations here are exposing and putting to shame the two face of that religious organization. The fight against empire of false religion aka babylon the great aka those you call christendom for +/- 150 years is already brought to nothing. Recent development in your religious organization shows babylon the great is returning vigorously in your midst

Pharaoh, Nebuchadnezzar, Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Benito Mussolini never succeeded, what can a fickle dust of speech of mere man can rattle Jehovah's army

All of the above have common denominator with your Governing Body. Na person wey sabi go sabi. They made themselves to be GOD over their subjects and I know who call themselves GODS(Guardians of Our Doctrines) aka god(voice of Jesus Christ) John 1:1 aka Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses


The words of the wise are like oxgoads, and their collected sayings are like firmly embedded nails; they have been given from one shepherd

I don't need wise sayings from mistake and error ridden men who made themselves GODS over the lord's sheep

Sakody:


You are not answering the question. Are you afraid that it could reveal something you are afraid of? Answer the question. Be straight forward.

They have claimed to not be inspired that is not inspired by the Holy Spirit and can make mistakes. Meaning ,they will give you nothing but Man made doctrines, in fact their own understanding which is why your doctrines change all the time. How can someone who admits is not inspired still be led by the Holy Spirit? Is that not a contradiction? Does this make sense to you? How can words of truth change to lies? Does your God lie?

If English language has become your problem to understand.
No man can claim to be inspired. Only the Holy scripture the Bible is it,that is inspired .
The governing body been Christ brother highly spiritual men never claimed to be infallible like the popes of the Roman Catholic Church.
The use the watchtower to explain the teachings of the Bible,
The Watchtower is not comparable to the Bible, and it has not claimed infallibility Been humble men if they make a mistake they are quick to admit it. That's honor to its core .
I can discern you lack real spiritual knowledge, even if you have been one of Jehovah's witnesses before or you saw it as your parents religion, tagging along as it were until you drifted away, that's no surprising..
Restart your Bible study a lot of changes has taken place in Jehovah's organisation.
All you anger simply because of wearing beard which was stated as a matter of personal choice.
I haven't seen a bearded Pope, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Ibiyomie ,Oyakilome, late Bishop Idahoso ain't bearded why re you enraged against Jehovah and his people?

highoctane:


If English language has become your problem to understand.
No man can claim to be inspired. Only the Holy scripture the Bible is it,that is inspired .
The governing body been Christ brother highly spiritual men never claimed to be infallible like the popes of the Roman Catholic Church.
The use the watchtower to explain the teachings of the Bible,
The Watchtower is not comparable to the Bible, and it has not claimed infallibility Been humble men if they make a mistake they are quick to admit it. That's honor to its core .
I can discern you lack real spiritual knowledge, even if you have been one of Jehovah's witnesses before or you saw it as your parents religion, tagging along as it were until you drifted away, that's no surprising..
Restart your Bible study a lot of changes has taken place in Jehovah's organisation.
All you anger simply because of wearing beard which was stated as a matter of personal choice.
I haven't seen a bearded Pope, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Ibiyomie ,Oyakilome, late Bishop Idahoso ain't bearded why re you enraged against Jehovah and his people?

Typical JW response when they are frustrated and you have shown their foolishness in their doctrines. They equate their Governing body to Jehovah. Therefore the Governing body is their God.

Now let me use an example. Your organisation demonises University Education and drops Elders that take their children to University. And many Jehovah's Witnesses disagree with this doctrine. But are you people free to speak against it? NO. Why? Because you are in Cult that demonises Questioning doctrines. You are forced to accept them. They demand unquestionable obedience over mere opinions. So, tell me. Is this No University Education Biblical? Or is this a mere opinion from your Governing body? Did the Holy Spirit or Jehovah tell them that University Education is bad and therefore Elders taking their children there should be dropped?

Again, if you know very well that these Governing body can make mistakes, why do they require unquestionable obedience when they are only giving you their opinions on matters? Why are you JWs being forced to follow them knowing very well they can lead you astray with their changing opinions? Knowing that they make mistakes, why can't they be corrected by you when you notice they are wrong? Why can't they be questioned? How on earth can they improve when they can't take criticisms or opinions from their members?

achorladey:


In the final analysis when the disorderly is under 4 that person will be disfellowshipped

Those places you posted is talking about serious sins that warrant judicial Committee. A group of three men or above who reviews if someone is repentant to warrant a reproof or disfellowship. That is different from handling disorderly ones.

Disorderly ones are marked. This marking involve warning talk speaking about the deviation by that individual, but the name of the individual is not mentioned during such talk. These disorderly behavior is not serious sins. This one's marked are still brothers or sisters. While disfellowshiped ones are not called brothers.

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is WRONG!

We MUST disfellowship anyone who is walking disorderly before you become one of us you would have learned all the things that leads to disfellowship but when you MISTAKENLY does it we MUST make sure it's not intentional so that you will be WARNED but then if you're not willing to accept the discipline we will show you the door: DISFELLOWSHIP!

You really need to go back and research like I always tell you. You claim to be an elder and you are saying this.

achorladey:



You don start your lies and manipulations packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains abi?

MARKING DISORDERLY ONES 76

At times it may be necessary to mark those who display a flagrant disregard for Jehovah’s standards though not practicing a grave sin that merits judicial action. (2 Thess. 3:6, 14, 15; w99 7/15 pp. 29-31) This could include such things as being grossly lazy or critical or being a profitless talker who is a constant ‘meddler with what does not concern him.’ (2 Thess. 3:11) It may involve one who schemes to take material advantage of others, indulges in entertainment that is clearly improper, dates an unbeliever, or dates when not legally or Scripturally free.—od chap. 14 pars. 9-12. 77. If the disorderly conduct is generally unknown to others and poses no threat to their spiritual well-being, usually it is best to handle things through admonition and counsel. The body of elders should not be hasty in deciding to give a warning talk. However, if the individual does not see the error of his way but continues to be an unwholesome influence, a warning talk may be given to the congregation. Elders must use reasonableness and discernment in determining whether a particular situation is sufficiently serious and disturbing to require a warning talk.

It is that last part I want Sand2022 to concentrate upon. The foot soldiers have the leeway to use what they call reasonableness and discernment to send the disorderly packing out of that religious organization

No. That's not what the last part is saying. It is rather saying that the foot soldiers should should discernment to know when to give a warning talk. Warning talk is given on top of their platform. But they may chose to just give the person private counsel rather than make a warning talk. However, since they are close to the situation, they would know when the issue is particularly disturbing to the congregation to warrant a warning talk. That's the point.

Sand2022:

You really need to go back and research like I always tell you. You claim to be an elder and you are saying this.

Perhaps you don't understand what i meant.
Unrepentant wrongdoers will be disfellowshiped.

Sand2022:


Those places you posted is talking about serious sins that warrant judicial Committee. A group of three men or above who reviews if someone is repentant to warrant a reproof or disfellowship. That is different from handling disorderly ones.

Disorderly ones are marked. This marking involve warning talk speaking about the deviation by that individual, but the name of the individual is not mentioned during such talk. These disorderly behavior is not serious sins. This one's marked are still brothers or sisters. While disfellowshiped ones are not called brothers.

I am very much familiar with the point you made. The execution of these procedures are done by men not angels from heaven. When a person is disorderly an one of the elders brings the angle of causing division in the congregation into it, that person will get disfellowshipped. When the disorderliness is a serious sin classed under causing division. That person will get disfellowshipped

Sand2022:


No. That's not what the last part is saying. It is rather saying that the foot soldiers should should discernment to know when to give a warning talk. Warning talk is given on top of their platform. But they may chose to just give the person private counsel rather than make a warning talk. However, since they are close to the situation, they would know when the issue is particularly disturbing to the congregation to warrant a warning talk. That's the point.

I added that part where they use the term reasonableness and discernment to show how they can very much disfellowship the person who is disorderly under the guise of discernment and reasonableness of the person causing division in the congregation.

achorladey:


I am very much familiar with the point you made. The execution of these procedures are done by men not angels from heaven. When a person is disorderly an one of the elders brings the angle of causing division in the congregation into it, that person will get disfellowshipped. When the disorderliness is a serious sin classed under causing division. That person will get disfellowshipped

I understand you. Not all elders understand the policy of their GB. You can see Maxim na. If Maxim is an elder, you can imagine the kind of that will happen. Hahaha

The truth is, scripturally, disorderly ones is the same as serious sin, but we are just discussing how their GB sees it.

Disorderly matters refer to matters not considered to be serious sins eg. Too lazy, short skirts, excessive make ups etc. The GB find it hard to fix what is disorderly behavior because, the proper understanding of that book of thesalonians is serious sin that warrant judicial Committee. But the GB doesn't want to see it so. Why? Because that place states that such disorderly ones should also be seen as brothers, and no one should view them as an enemy. Since the GB feel that they must shun according to their understanding, they now gave that scripture a different meaning. The problem now is to state the sins involved. That scripture is a major hit against their shunning policy. I will one day make a write up against this shunning policy. By then I will explain more.

achorladey:


I added that part where they use the term reasonableness and discernment to show how they can very much disfellowship the person who is disorderly under the guise of discernment and reasonableness of the person causing division in the congregation.

Hahaha. I see. It happens.

Sand2022:


I understand you. Not all elders understand the policy of their GB. You can see Maxim na. If Maxim is an elder, you can imagine the kind of that will happen. Hahaha

The truth is, scripturally, disorderly ones is the same as serious sin, but we are just discussing how their GB sees it.

Disorderly matters refer to matters not considered to be serious sins eg. Too lazy, short skirts, excessive make ups etc. The GB find it hard to fix what is disorderly behavior because, the proper understanding of that book of thesalonians is serious sin that warrant judicial Committee. But the GB doesn't want to see it so. Why? Because that place states that such disorderly ones should also be seen as brothers, and no one should view them as an enemy. Since the GB feel that they must shun according to their understanding, they now gave that scripture a different meaning. The problem now is to state the sins involved. That scripture is a major hit against their shunning policy. I will one day make a write up against this shunning policy. By then I will explain more.

GB can manipulate anything to fit their preconceived ideas.

profitless talker who is a constant ‘meddler with what does not concern him.

tctrills come and see more madness and insanities peddling by MaxInDHouse. What he called criminal offence in 1 Peter 4:15 is classed as lesser sin here in the world of Jehovah’s Witnesses

achorladey:



GB can manipulate anything to fit their preconceived ideas.



tctrills come and see more madness and insanities peddling by MaxInDHouse. What he called criminal offence in 1 Peter 4:15 is classed as lesser sin here in the world of Jehovah’s Witnesses

We both know that he and his organization are dubious characters coming online to deceive but no matter how many times you prove it, they have no shame, they would just deny whatever you accuse them on and keep making noise.

Sakody:


After being locked in prison for so long to avoid keeping Beards. Watchtower just switched on their Android OS and suddenly they are now okay with Beards. If you see the way they use to demonise Beards ehn. They will say it is improper, you look dirty, you look haggard, you look irresponsible. Now Watchtower says it's okay. They now say they were never against it in the first place. These Jehovah's Witnesses? Truth is very far from these people. God forbid. Devilish people! Hardcore Liars! Satan is even competing with them for Lies!

Bro, why the hate on JW nah? Wetin dem do you pls think and reflect deeply where you'll be in the year 2100 and you'll keep cool. Eternity is not your mate!

Rursh:





Bro, why the hate on JW nah? Wetin dem do you pls think and reflect deeply where you'll be in the year 2100 and you'll keep cool. Eternity is not your mate!

Are you pained that Jehovah's Witnesses are being exposed as a Cult? This is just the beginning. The authorities investigating you people for Child Sexual abuse are just getting started. For Watchtower to tell you to avoid researching them shows They have a lot to hide. You people should prepare yourselves for more embarrassment. Almighty God and Jesus are the ones exposing you.