raumdeuter:


If a protest has the potential to threaten public peace then no govt will allow it.
Before you protest you get permission from the authorities to provide adequate security in place to protect lives and properties.
Emergency services need to be put in place for those who suffer from exhaustion

That is what happens in real democracy

Given the recent history of the particular place where there was bloodshed during a protest, only an irresponsible govt will allow such to go ahead when a few months before there was a major confrontation

Governance is different from activism, where you seek to destroy and burn things down

Recently one lady was asking Sanwo-Olu about Mohbad forensic test and Sanwo-Olu told her that the lab which govt spent billions on was burnt down during endsars. Which responsible govt will wait for another burning down of infrastructure that's not even enough in the first place

In a true democracy there are laws guiding protests

You may not:
Block access to sidewalks or buildings
March in the streets without a permit
Disrupt counter-protests
Engage in speech that is obscene, makes knowingly false statements of fact, or that is likely to incite an immediate disruptive or dangerous disturbance

https://www.aclusocal.org/en/know-your-rights/protesters

Remind us again how people’s peace was threatened with the protest

BlueRayDick:


Like I said earlier , u can try to spin it but it is what it is .

Maybe u are not familiar with the Nigerian constitution as regards the right to protests and prevented cases , but I am .

Check sections 38-41 of the Nigerian constitution , the right of citizens to a lawful peaceful protests is entrenched therein. There’s even an appeal court case involving IGP V. ANPP (2008) 12 WRN 65 which held “certainly in a democracy, it is the right of citizens to conduct peaceful processions, rallies or demonstrations without seeking and obtaining permission from anybody. It is a right guaranteed by the 1999 constitution and any law that attempts to curtail such right is null and void and of no effect.”

Nigeria is a country that pretends to practice democracy but in actual sense is a jungle where the strong prey on the weak .

The police/government’s job is to ensure the protest is not hijacked by non-state actors , it’s not to preempt violence and deny the citizens their fundamental human right .

How can the police ensure the protest is not hijacked when they are not informed or told the protesters they have adequate personnel to man the protest ground? There is a reason why in the democracy you reference, they get permits before protests

In that same location there was a serious protest a fee months earlier which led to bloodshed, so which govt will repeat the same error again

I see you mentioned US as an example in your earlier post, below is an example of what happened in US regarding protests recently

iamoyindamola:

Remind us again how people’s peace was threatened with the protest

You block road and restrict others from movement, you are infringing on their right to movement

A similar protest in the same location has led to breakdown in law and order some months before. So which responsible govt will wait for a repeat

raumdeuter:


How can the police ensure the protest is not hijacked when they are not informed or told the protesters they have adequate personnel to man the protest ground? There is a reason why in the democracy you reference, they get permits before protests

In that same location there was a serious protest a fee months earlier which led to bloodshed, so which govt will repeat the same error again

I see you mentioned US as an example in your earlier post, below is an example of what happened in US regarding protests recently

I just quoted an appeal court judgement which actually law as of today since there’s no judgment from a court of higher jurisdiction overruling it. U don’t need to obtain any permission from anyone to organize a protest in Nigeria .

The position of Sanwoolu and the commissioner of police in Lagos as at the time of the June 12 protest is illegal in the face of the law .

Simple !

Every other thing is just shalaye that sells in a jungle like Nigeria .

BlueRayDick:


I just quoted an appeal court judgement which actually law as of today since there’s no judgment from a court of higher jurisdiction overruling it. U don’t need to obtain any permission from anyone to organize a protest in Nigeria .

The position of Sanwoolu and the commissioner of police in Lagos as at the time of the June 12 protest is illegal in the face of the law .

Simple !

Every other thing is just shalaye that sells in a jungle like Nigeria .

This is what the law says

Under the Public Order Act (Cap P42) Laws of the Federation of Nigeria, 2004 S. 1(1)(2) of the Public Order Act.
S.1 of the Act empowered the Governor of each state to direct the conduct of all assemblies, meetings, and processions on the public roads or places of public resort in the State and prescribe the route by which and the times at which any procession may pass.

S.2 states that any person who is desirous of convening or collecting any assembly or meeting or of forming any procession in any public road or place of public resort shall, unless such assembly, meeting or procession is permitted by a general license granted under subsection (3) of this section, first make application for a license to the Governor not less than 48 hours.

Sanwo-Olu is the governor of Lagos state, Did he authorize the said June 12 protest?
The first duty of the governor is to maintain law and order in the state and resist anything that threatens law and order

Thats why there is always a difference in activism and governance. Activists are not accountable to anyone, Governors are accountable to the citizens of the state to protect lives and properties

You mentioned US as the model democracy, I gave you examples of what applies in this US now it has become shalaye. Abi US sef don turn jungle?

raumdeuter:


You block road and restrict others from movement, you are infringing on their right to movement

A similar protest in the same location has led to breakdown in law and order some months before. So which responsible govt will wait for a repeat

Haba fear God oo
We are talking about endsars memorial here
All they did was drive from toll gate to lekki phase 1 and turn waving flag that was all they did
Mr maraconi confronted some police men harassing the protesters and they picked on him too
Some journalists were not spared too

raumdeuter:


This is what the law says

Under the Public Order Act (Cap P42) Laws of the Federation of Nigeria, 2004 the power to regulate public meetings, processions and rallies in any part of Nigeria was exclusively vested in the governors of the respective states of the Federation

Sanwo-Olu is the governor of Lagos state, Did he authorize the said June 12 protest?
The first duty of the governor is to maintain law and order in the state and resist anything that threatens law and order

Thats why there is always a difference in activism and governance. Activists are not accountable to anyone, Governors are accountable to the citizens of the state to protect lives and properties

You mentioned US as the model democracy, I gave you examples of what applies in this US now it has become shalaye. Abi US sef don turn jungle?

Lmao .

We are talking of case law ; something has been tested and pronounced by a judge I are talking of a law any nobody can interprete to suit themselves ?

It is well with u and ur defence for impunity .

Public order act kor , private order decree ni. Maybe u don’t know the constitution supercedes any act or law at every point in time .

Realmrsean:

watch broke Mohammad from kaduna try to school Salah ,hehe .


Salah don't give a Bleep.

raumdeuter:


You block road and restrict others from movement, you are infringing on their right to movement

A similar protest in the same location has led to breakdown in law and order some months before. So which responsible govt will wait for a repeat

Oya tell us who blocked roads here 🤣🤣🤣


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EE3PjR9-Og?si=BgvIyu9IM1SbVVIc

iamoyindamola:

Haba fear God oo
We are talking about endsars memorial here
All they did was drive from toll gate to lekki phase 1 and turn waving flag that was all they did
Mr maraconi confronted some police men harassing the protesters and they picked on him too
Some journalists were not spared too

Macaroni and some people decided to go to the Lekki toll gate to protest against reopening the toll gate after a decision was made by the Judicial panel to reopen the toll gate

But the young Nigerians, under the aegis of #EndSARS Season 2 and #OccupyLekkiTollgate, vowed to defy the government’s order.

The other group, #DefendLagos withdrew from the protest, noting that it was in accordance with the government’s directives that no protest should hold.

The #EndSARS Season 2 and #OccupyLekkiTollgate said their action was informed by the decision of the Lagos State Judicial Panel of Inquiry allowing the Lekki Concession Company to reopen the Lekki tollgate.

raumdeuter:


Macaroni and some people decided to go to the Lekki toll gate to protest against reopening the toll gate after a decision was made by the Judicial panel to reopen the toll gate

Bros the video is there na
Where did they block road or disturb people's peace?

BlueRayDick:


Lmao .

We are talking of case law ; something has been tested and pronounced by a judge I are talking of a law any nobody can interprete to suit themselves ?

It is well with u and ur defence for impunity .

Public order act kor , private order decree ni. Maybe u don’t know the constitution supercedes any act or law at every point in time .

impunity is to speak against breakdown of law and order? Those who lost lives and properties in the Toll gate protest shey you or Macaroni go compensate them?

No be the same govt go still fix all the infrastructures with taxpayers money. Say 50M structure destroyed by protesters, taxpayers money will be used again to rebuild the same thing

iamoyindamola:

Bros the video is there na
Where did they block road or disturb people's peace?

Govt say no protest should hold at Toll gate, what did they do? They went ahead regardless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=q2LDLTMz9G8

lol.

SPINathropist

raumdeuter:


Govt say no protest should hold at Toll gate, what did they do? They went ahead regardless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=q2LDLTMz9G8

Stay on place bros
How is it an offense to stage protest anywhere?
Did they disturb other civilians peace or destroy anything?
What right does a governor have to stop a protest?

iamoyindamola:

Stay on place bros
How is it an offense to stage protest anywhere?
Did they disturb other civilians peace or destroy anything?
What right does a governor have to stop a protest?

You mean what right does a Chief Security Officer of a state have to secure the state especially after witnessing violent riots which disrupted the security of the state few months earlier?

When the result of the breakdown in law and order comes you still blame the govt who warned you not to in the first place

raumdeuter:


You mean what right does a Chief Security Officer of a state have to secure the state especially after witnessing violent riots which disrupted the security of the state few months earlier?

When the result of the breakdown in law and order comes you still blame the govt who warned you not to in the first place

That's the issue here what breakdown exactly
Even the endsars was peaceful until same government hijacked it with thugs

iamoyindamola:

That's the issue here what breakdown exactly
Even the endsars was peaceful until same government hijacked it with thugs

El O El

Govt hijacked it, Govt ordered the burning of all govt infrastructures, Govt was giving orders to burn down police stations, Govt was giving orders to burn everything Tinubu owns, Govt ordered the burning of TVC, LASG buses, To what end?

raumdeuter:


El O El

Govt hijacked it, Govt ordered the burning of all govt infrastructures, Govt was giving orders to burn down police stations, Govt was giving orders to burn everything Tinubu owns, Govt ordered the burning of TVC, LASG buses, To what end?

Lol
Shebi na you na
Blueraydick bring your mcm again eyan Sam Larry awo sanwoolu

iamoyindamola:

Lol
Shebi na you na
Blueraydick bring your mcm again eyan Sam Larry awo sanwoolu

U really get time sha . U dey try wake person wey dey pretend to sleep .

As expected , my MCM is still a free man till date. Despite his face being all over social media as one of the non-state actors who first disrupted the peaceful protest .

BlueRayDick:


U really get time sha . U dey try wake person wey dey pretend to sleep .

As expected , my MCM is still a free man till date. Despite his face being all over social media as one of the non-state actors who first disrupted the peaceful protest .

iamoyindamola:

Na macaroni be criminal , Adagun oosha na law abiding citizen wey dey use cutlass complete him dressing

BlueRayDick:


Na macaroni be criminal , Adagun oosha na law abiding citizen wey dey use cutlass complete him dressing

He led a peaceful protest with cutlass
God save falz too na him papa them reason if not he for collect

iamoyindamola:

Lol
Shebi na you na
Blueraydick bring your mcm again eyan Sam Larry awo sanwoolu

Na Samlarry burn Lagos buses
Na Sanwo-Olu order Samlarry to burn TVC
Na Samlarry burn the toll gate
Those blocking toll gate before soldiers came were also sent by Samlarry
Samlarry was omnipresent all over Lagos from Lekki to Ikeja to EbuteMetta to Shomolu

How many Samlarry dey Lagos sef, dem go reach 1million

Will the real Samlarry please stand up

Merry Christmas Yall

fr allia is a fraud and should be excommunicated

https://x.com/General_Somto/status/1739326367215349764?s=20

raumdeuter:


Na Samlarry burn Lagos buses
Na Sanwo-Olu order Samlarry to burn TVC
Na Samlarry burn the toll gate
Those blocking toll gate before soldiers came were also sent by Samlarry
Samlarry was omnipresent all over Lagos from Lekki to Ikeja to EbuteMetta to Shomolu

How many Samlarry dey Lagos sef, dem go reach 1million

Will the real Samlarry please stand up

How did we even get here
I thought Mr macaroni and his boys blocked toll gate🤣🤣🤣🤣

iamoyindamola:


How did we even get here
I thought Mr macaroni and his boys blocked toll gate🤣🤣🤣🤣

Macaroni went to protest at toll gate when the state was still recovering from previous destruction at the same location despite warning not to

But you have clarified that it was Samlarry doing all the blocking and destruction of state infrastructure

Realmrsean:
fr allia is a fraud and should be excommunicated

https://x.com/General_Somto/status/1739326367215349764?s=20

This is horrible it's now a weekly thing for many decades.
I believe that is Plateau state not Benue

raumdeuter:

This is horrible it's now a weekly thing for many decades.
I believe that is Plateau state not Benue

ohh,platue is jos right,,almost forgot

Realmrsean:
fr allia is a fraud and should be excommunicated

https://x.com/General_Somto/status/1739326367215349764?s=20

I hope this incident will be erased from that young toddlers mind and I pray that he grows to be a success like Victor Moses who suffered the same fate.