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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ab0bii: 10:49am On Jan 03
A001:
You know the volume of juju claims I don investigate in the past 8 years. Investigating juju is my own hobby. There's nothing like juju. It's either science or superstition.
Have you ever investigated blood money? I wan check something
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 10:50am On Jan 03
If you're an atheist or agnostic in Africa, I'd recommend that you don't dismiss claims of the juju or the supernatural whenever you come across such. Simply ask for the proof.

Based on my own research, what's called juju is either unexplained science or fakes.

One can discover new sciences by investigating all these juju claims. However, it's a risky endeavor.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 10:51am On Jan 03
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
IDF don dey bomb Lebanon since wey d war start cox Hezbollah didn't maintain neutrality. Lebanon is their headquarter & dey house many Hamas leaders. Dem too join Hamas dey attack ISrael. U dey see IDF fighter jets dey drop bomb in Lebanon yet u talk say dem no dey claim responsibility.



I am telling you they don't claim responsibility most atimes.

Here is a screenshot of what the spokesperson of IDF said.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 10:55am On Jan 03
Ab0bii:

Have you ever investigated blood money? I wan check something
This one is mostly selling of human parts. If you believe that nonsense shown on Nollywood movies, you're on a long thing.

Anything that manifests on Earth is governed by laws of nature, which are physical. It's when your understanding of such laws is limited that you'll be looking for juju all about, or if you want to deceive others by hiding your knowledge.

If you know the technique you're saying clearly, you mention its name. Every technology or technique has a name and underlying sciences.

If it doesn't, then it's simply fake and doesn't exist.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 10:55am On Jan 03
Otem be praised.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ab0bii: 10:56am On Jan 03
A001:
If you're an atheist or agnostic in Africa, I'd recommend that you don't dismiss claims of the juju or the supernatural whenever you come across such. Simply ask for the proof.

Based on my own research, what's called juju is either unexplained science or fakes.

One can discover new sciences by investigating all these juju claims. However, it's a risky endeavor.
Oga which one is unexplained science? You are not talking to kids here.

I'm telling you that juju existed and ask you to explain some things which I didn't consider natural and you are here talking about unexplained science. Let's just agree that it's your unexplained science but until it will be explained, I will consider it as juju.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 10:58am On Jan 03
larride:
Otem be praised.
Mumu don start in a new year. You no still get sense in a new year, cheesy. Lols, mumuni don graduate from praising a fictional character to praising a nairalander. New year, same stupidity
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 10:59am On Jan 03
Except they put substance in my food or drink… No one can do me anything in the name of some juju…. Total Bull****

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:00am On Jan 03
The closest I've come to believing juju was when I witnessed Zangbeto masqurade performance ( It's a masquarde of the Egun people of Badagry Nigeria & Benin republic)

I have attached a picture of the masqurade. The masqurade while performing will be rolling from side to side in its movement while it's minders will moving side by side with it and atimes mouth whatever spoken words they are expected to communicate to it.

At a point , one of the minders opened up the masqurade and that day I was surprised to see only a bottle underneath the raffia stuff. After few seconds, the raffia stuff was used to cover bottle again and shortly after the masquarde was live again.

Looking back having watched several videos of magic tricks bursted on youtube, I believe that particular performance was a magic trick designed specifically for entertainment purposes & the custodian of the tricks are guding it jealously. Why? Because the day people know the trick, hunger go finish them.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 11:00am On Jan 03
A001:



Those things you call juju are purely physical. I can't go into too much details here. But certain laws of nature, which are mathematical, govern them.

Juju is a form of religious rite. I don't believe in its efficacy on me, but those who believe in its efficacy have their reasons which I can't dispute.

You call it programming, some call it conjuring, the Ibibios call it "ibok', the Yorubas call it " Ogun"... It all points to metaphysics - beyond-physical, advanced-physical... Or whatever term you'd tag it.

For me, Juju is just a practice.




Don't deceive yourself or let anyone deceive you. The matrix we call reality was designed and engineered by certain people (worshipped as different gods and goddesses around the world) using certain codes (certain math, physics, and the likes) the same way engineers design and code machines today.

And planet Earth is governed by physical laws. If you don't know many of such laws, that's when you'll see phenomena above your understanding as juju, voodoo, supernatural, which will make you prone to scams.

There's nothing like juju in a physical realm like Earth. Everything here is physical.

About the designer you mentioned, if you want to know the designer in your own culture, that's the chief god or major gods/goddesses worshipped there by the pagans.

And those ones have also their own designers as well.

Each culture has its own designers. It's all advanced programming the gods (higher beings) do.




You are unwittingly agreeing with me. The fact that you agree there's an intelligent designer or designers to the universe is proof that we live in a metaphysical or beyond-physical world.

My lack of believe in its personal efficacy doesn't negate what others believe. I don't believe in tithes or first fruits practised in Christianity but if it works for them - IF, good for them. Far be it from DissTróy to ridicule their personal experiences as long as they don't force it on me.

I believe in the concept of God, experienced without the bottleneck of organised religions, knowing well enough that God in this term means "supreme intelligent designer of the universe in whatever form it exists" which even the most atheistic of scientists agree to.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 11:01am On Jan 03
A001:

Mumu don start in a new year. You no still get sense in a new year, cheesy. Lols, mumuni don graduate from praising a fictional character to praising a nairalander. New year, same stupidity

Otem bless you.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 11:01am On Jan 03
Theflint1:
That powder Dem dey pour intermittently, na wetin Dem dey use maintain the scam.
😂😂😂
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:01am On Jan 03
monerozi5590:





Cyberattacks, isolated killings, launching drone from IRAN to attack a facility in IRan. omo all na criminal non state actors & acts of espionage which Israel can easily deny.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 11:02am On Jan 03
Ab0bii:
@A001

Dem no de tell person. There is real juju my brother, i pray you should not learn about it the hard way.

It beat my imagination how one will make a sweeping and general statement concerning what he is not sure of. The existence of supernatural powers is real and only an uninformed person will say otherwise
We use to hear this monbo jumbo every year
If you can’t proof juju exist why should we believe
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 11:04am On Jan 03
Ab0bii:

Oga which one is unexplained science? You are not talking to kids here.

I'm telling you that juju existed and ask you to explain some things which I didn't consider natural and you are here talking about unexplained science. Let's just agree that it's your unexplained science but until it will be explained, I will consider it as juju.


Na your opinion now. Even till now, there are people that still call cold, malaria, and similar ailments juju, spiritual attacks even when the majority have become enlightened about their real nature.

A region with many juju believers are often underdeveloped and backward. The word "juju" is used to scare people away from investigating inexplicable phenomena and unraveling the mysteries underlying them.

It's an old tactic used by fraudsters and conmen to scam unsuspecting people.

Science will unravel and demystify all things called juju.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ab0bii: 11:04am On Jan 03
A001:

This one is mostly selling of human parts. If you believe that nonsense shown on Nollywood movies, you're on a long thing.

Anything that manifests on Earth is governed by laws of nature, which are physical. It's when your understanding of such laws is limited that you'll be looking for juju all about, or if you want to deceive others by hiding your knowledge.

If you know the technique you're saying clearly, you mention its name. Every technology or technique has a name and underlying sciences.

If it doesn't, then it's simply fake and doesn't exist.
Here you go again. Did you ever see or read about a lady been used by a Yahoo boy? I guess this one too is unexplained science.

Did you hear of a single rope laid on the ground and the person that match it takes up a disease with swollen legs. Unexplained science again

Did you believe that a gun cannot penetrate someones body? Unexplained science

Y'all claiming littrates online just to make you look posh disgust me. Even where the whites that mention that word science to you are heavily involved in juju practice. You will seat here and just believe everything Hook line and sinker simply because one white man says so
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 11:04am On Jan 03
larride:


Otem bless you.
Lols, clown
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:05am On Jan 03
Ab0bii:

Have you ever investigated blood money? I wan check something

There's nothing like blood money. Chief Yemi Elebuibon the Ifa Priest of oshogbo has said it times without numbers
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 11:05am On Jan 03
Ab0bii:

Here you go again. Did you ever see or read about a lady been used by a Yahoo boy? I guess this one too is unexplained science.

Did you hear of a single rope laid on the ground and the person that match it takes up a disease with swollen legs. Unexplained science again

Did you believe that a gun cannot penetrate someones body? Unexplained science

Y'all claiming littrates online just to make you look posh disgust me. Even where the whites that mention that word science to you are heavily involved in juju practice. You will seat here and just believe everything Hook line and sinker simply because one white man says so
Na all these you call juju? Dis man no sabi anything. Lols, I don laugh tire
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 11:07am On Jan 03
Our able dibias sef never proof to us that juju they true true
Ebukacute and Segedinho how far na
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ab0bii: 11:10am On Jan 03
BlueRayDick:


There's nothing like blood money. Chief Yemi Elebuibon the Ifa Priest of oshogbo has said it times without numbers
Wonderful
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 11:10am On Jan 03
obainojazz:
Except they put substance in my food or drink… No one can do me anything in the name of some juju…. Total Bull****
Like my oga will say don’t collect anything from them to eat or drink and don’t let them blow any substance or have physical contact with you
After that juju is a scam because everyone know it can’t work remotely
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ab0bii: 11:11am On Jan 03
A001:

Na all these you call juju? Dis man no sabi anything. Lols, I don laugh tire
Tell me your own definition of juju first. Maybe we are arguing on different topics
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 11:12am On Jan 03
OkpaNsukkaisBae:



Cyberattacks, isolated killings, launching drone from IRAN to attack a facility in IRan. omo all na criminal non state actors & acts of espionage which Israel can easily deny.


Yes. That's what they are doing. Even in Tehran, those Hamas top guys can still be killed and Israel will say they don't know anything about it. This is what I am trying to let you know.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 11:13am On Jan 03
Ab0bii:

Here you go again. Did you ever see or read about a lady been used by a Yahoo boy? I guess this one too is unexplained science.

Did you hear of a single rope laid on the ground and the person that match it takes up a disease with swollen legs. Unexplained science again

Did you believe that a gun cannot penetrate someones body? Unexplained science

Y'all claiming littrates online just to make you look posh disgust me. Even where the whites that mention that word science to you are heavily involved in juju practice. You will seat here and just believe everything Hook line and sinker simply because one white man says so
Will you bring your bullet proof vest juju and I will bring my own gun to try it on you
If e enter you die for nothing if not I owe you 50k
Deal?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ab0bii: 11:14am On Jan 03
iamoyindamola:

Like my oga will say don’t collect anything from them to eat or drink and don’t let them blow any substance or have physical contact with you
After that juju is a scam because everyone know it can’t work remotely
So if Dem blow substance towards you and you later become a drunkard or useless in life, is it not juju again?

We are talking about the existence of juju and not how to avoid it.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:15am On Jan 03
Ab0bii:

Wonderful

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 11:15am On Jan 03
DissTroy:


Juju is a form of religious rite. I don't believe in its efficacy on me, but those who believe in its efficacy have their reasons which I can't dispute.

You call it programming, some call it conjuring, the Ibibios call it "ibok', the Yorubas call it " Ogun"... It all points to metaphysics - beyond-physical, advanced-physical... Or whatever term you'd tag it.

For me, Juju is just a practice.



You are unwittingly agreeing with me. The fact that you agree there's an intelligent designer or designers to the universe is proof that we live in a metaphysical or beyond-physical world.

My lack of believe in its personal efficacy doesn't negate what others believe. I don't believe in tithes or first fruits practised in Christianity but if it works for them - IF, good for them. Far be it from DissTróy to ridicule their personal experiences as long as they don't force it on me.

I believe in the concept of God, experienced without the bottleneck of organised religions, knowing well enough that God in this term means "supreme intelligent designer of the universe in whatever form it exists" which even the most atheistic of scientists agree to.

I understand you clearly. All these are beliefs. Science deals with reality.

Like in your culture, my culture also has deep belief in juju. But I simply tell people that it's all science. If you don't know the underlying science of something, that's when you call it juju.

This is due to ignorance or limitations of knowledge.

Concerning the nature of God, that's a settled issue for me as an agnostic now and in the foreseeable future. I've scientific (objective) of that and its practical applications.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 11:16am On Jan 03
OkpaNsukkaisBae:



War is not teaparty. There are casualties on both sides.
weak point lol
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ab0bii: 11:17am On Jan 03
iamoyindamola:

Will you bring your bullet proof vest juju and I will bring my own gun to try it on you
If e enter you die for nothing if not I owe you 50k
Deal?
Did I mention i have such before?

Or you are out rightly denying the fact that there is a bullet proof juju vest?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 11:18am On Jan 03
BlueRayDick:


Looking back having watched several videos of magic tricks bursted on youtube, I believe that particular performance was a magic trick designed specifically for entertainment purposes & the custodian of the tricks are guding it jealously. Why? Because the day people know the trick, hunger go finish them.

That's why I stated in my first post to you that what you saw in the video is nothing compared to the real thing practised. There's nothing in the video but amusement.
Masquerades are tricks. Even the feared Ekpo masquerade is a trick, including the blood-cuddling sound it makes. I know I've seen them dress up a few years ago when I went visiting.
The fire-spitting ones are tricks too.

The more intriguing ones include causing a fast-whirling vortex in the middle of hitherto still shallow pond without stepping into the water body. There's no way I analysed what I saw and could come up with a physical law which explained it. No, it wasn't windy.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:20am On Jan 03
iamoyindamola:

Will you bring your bullet proof vest juju and I will bring my own gun to try it on you
If e enter you die for nothing if not I owe you 50k
Deal?

Make sure he signs a legal document consenting to not pressing charges in case he dies or gets injured from the bullet wound o grin

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