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Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 12:41pm On Jan 06 |
SIRTee15:I am sick and tired of explaining the Holy Babble to Christians. Its as if they don't even read the damn book. 1. Ajayi Crowther ONLY translated the babble from English to Yoruba. He didn't bring the babble to yorubaland. There were literate people already reading the English and so he translated for the core yoruba who can't understand English. The white man has already brought christianity then 2. Do u know the names of the Egyptian, Carthage priests? Why ask me the English folks names? Constantine chaired the meetings.He is the most important person there. All the decisions were made by him, and he's a Caucasian. Your point is irrelevant. 3. Here are verses where people with long hair are described in the Bible. Revelation 1:14 Verse Concepts His head and His hair were white like white wool, like snow; and His eyes were like a flame of fire 1 Chronicles 19:5 Then certain men went and gave David word of what had been done to them. And he sent out with the purpose of meeting them; for the men were greatly shamed. And the king said, Keep where you are at Jericho till your hair is long again, and then come back 2 Kings 9:30 As soon as Jehu arrived at Jezreel, Jezebel adorned her eyes, arranged her hair, and peered out a window 1 Kings 20:32 So they put on some sackcloth, tied their hair back with ropes, and approached the king of Israel. "Your servant Ben-hadad says this," they said. "Please let me live." "Is he still alive?" Ahab asked. "He's my brother 1 Kings 20:31 "Look, now," his advisors suggested, "we've heard that the Israeli kings are merciful. So let's clothe ourselves with sackcloth, tie our hair back with ropes, and go out to the king of Israel. Maybe he'll spare your life 2 Samuel 14:26 And when he polled his head, (for it was at every year's end that he polled it: because the hair was heavy on him, therefore he polled it he weighed the hair of his head at two hundred shekels after the king's weight 2 Samuel 10:5 When David had news of it, he sent men out with the purpose of meeting them on their way, for the men were greatly shamed: and the king said, Go to Jericho till your hair is long again, and then come back 1 Samuel 16:12 So he sent and made him come in. Now he had red hair and beautiful eyes and pleasing looks. And the Lord said, Come, put the oil on him, for this is he. Judges 16:19 So she enticed him to fall asleep on her lap, called for a man to shave off his seven locks of hair from his head, and so began to humiliate him. Then his strength abandoned him Judges 16:14 So Delilah took the seven locks on his head and wove them into the loom while he slept. She fastened his hair with a peg and then told him, "The Philistines are attacking you, Samson!" But he woke up from his nap and pulled the pin from the loom and the weaving Judges 16:13 Then Delilah said to Samson, “Up to now you have deceived me and told me lies; tell me how you may be bound.” And he said to her, “If you weave the seven locks of my hair with the web [and fasten it with a pin, then I will become weak and be like any other man Judges 5:2 "When hair grows long in Israel, when the people give themselves willingly, bless the LORD Numbers 6:5 All the days of the vow of his separation there shall no rasor come upon his head: until the days be fulfilled, in the which he separateth himself unto the LORD, he shall be holy, and shall let the locks of the hair of his head grow Numbers 5:18 After the priest has the woman stand before the Lord, he is to let down her hair and place in her hands the grain offering for remembrance, which is the grain offering of jealousy. The priest is to hold the bitter water that brings a curse Leviticus 21:10 “The priest who is highest among his brothers, who has had the anointing oil poured on his head and has been ordained to wear the garments, must not dishevel his hair or tear his garments Genesis 25:25 The first one came out red-looking, covered with hair like a fur coat, and they named him Esau Leviticus 10:6 Then Moses said to Aaron and his sons Eleazar and Ithamar, “Do not let your hair hang loose and do not tear your garments, or else you will die, and the Lord will become angry with the whole community. However, your brothers, the whole house of Israel, may mourn over that tragedy when the Lord sent the fire |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 12:42pm On Jan 06 |
SIRTee15:My bases are from facts. If those facts are beyond you, kindly say so. Which of those facts I listed is a lie? Nice way of dodging facts |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 12:48pm On Jan 06 |
SIRTee15:Destruction of Pompeii from the eruption of Mount Vesuvius is such a common theme in history and arts. Paintings have been made by contemporary artists, even movies made from it. I remember one of the movies, acted by Kit Harrington(Jon Snow of Game of Thrones). That was where I learned of it first before I started researching about it. Historians and archaeologists have written loads of materials on it but somehow an ignorant fellow in Nigeria named Sirtee15 doesn't know. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.historyextra.com/period/roman/last-hours-pompeii-mount-vesuvius-eruption-timeline/&ved=2ahUKEwiO_83I18iDAxWdWUEAHdiDDGoQFnoECB0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw3rIwqYoDQwQWw-tWWwssdp https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.britannica.com/place/Pompeii&ved=2ahUKEwiO_83I18iDAxWdWUEAHdiDDGoQFnoECCEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1Ib2J0DnfzCGffGpdqUML1 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.history.co.uk/article/the-eruption-of-mount-vesuvius-in-79-ad-and-the-destruction-of-pompeii&ved=2ahUKEwiO_83I18iDAxWdWUEAHdiDDGoQFnoECDsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1ZIdd0cuLBGCJU4DEIy2Q9 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Destruction_of_Pompeii_and_Herculaneum&ved=2ahUKEwiO_83I18iDAxWdWUEAHdiDDGoQFnoECB4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2DQ4x30kZ2WJslkPRgmjvt https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eruption_of_Mount_Vesuvius_in_79_AD&ved=2ahUKEwiO_83I18iDAxWdWUEAHdiDDGoQFnoECCAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2dx0xvvRwPQESaU8sNpMtD You're just an uneducated and daft brute |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 12:49pm On Jan 06 |
Aemmyjah:So where did the video makers get their knowledge from? |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:53pm On Jan 06 |
jaephoenix: Outside space If you want to get information on your phone, there is a guide that the Manufacturer has to help anyone use the phone well and be happy Same with life... But you think those that adhere to that guide are stupid... Only a fool will listen to you |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:54pm On Jan 06 |
jaephoenix: Where does our sense of morals come from? Or it is wrong to question the theory that you used to explain life? |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:58pm On Jan 06 |
jaephoenix: Go and find out the Jewish rendition of the same verse that mentions the shape of the earth... Even if the Bible mentions a geoid (as if there was a term used to describe such shape 3000 years ago). Bible has given shape of the Earth and it was different from what scientists and people said... Critics who bury the head in sand will use metaphors and other symbolic languages in the Bible to dismiss what the Bible said... Regrading the shape of the earth, Bible mentions it and it is accurate to this day |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:58pm On Jan 06 |
jaephoenix: False statement without evidence |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 12:59pm On Jan 06 |
Dtruthspeaker:Lol. I can equally pull up many posts by atheists stating christians are toxic. Doesn't mean anything. I'm talking about you. Many people including your fellow christards say you're toxic 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 1:00pm On Jan 06 |
Dtruthspeaker:See as a woman dey give you spanking for debate. And you call yourself a lawyer. Lol 😆 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:06pm On Jan 06 |
jaephoenix: 1. Fake doctor that said that women do not experience pain at labor which your gyne taught you even though you have a wife and mother. Scientific knowledge is too much for your understanding. If you wanna know, visit Google... Mind you Catholic never gave rise to JW... You have always been lying and you love doing this. No catholic or jw will agree with what you say. Ignorant statement! 2. Show us how their mistaken notion is from the Bible. Many of their moral doctrine past and present have no foundation in the Bible. So a wrong scientific notion is not surprising. 3. Am I a priest? A religious person today (the Pope) and has approved and blessing homosexuality - and A practice that has God's disapproval. Do you believe the big bang cos it was a priest that started it? If priests are blessing wars and weapons of mass destruction, does that make wars a blessing? 4. ... Where does mutation come in when you were taught mutation (if you were ever taught). Let us say diversity of organisms... The proven fact is mutation is more harmful than beneficial |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:07pm On Jan 06 |
jaephoenix: You don't know But science knows shey? Yet the one we accept is ridiculous while the one you teach but you don't know is fact. Ok na |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:08pm On Jan 06 |
jaephoenix: How does a robot determine his purpose |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:10pm On Jan 06 |
jaephoenix: Abiogenesis is proven fact. Yes or No? Oga leave story If it was formerly taught in school, what then happened? Why did you not correct Thorrn? You be hypocrite Oga |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 1:11pm On Jan 06 |
jaephoenix: Whether one is deaf, blind, handicapped. Everything was already given it's purpose If I buy a TV and it appears to be faulty or I did not see any manual in the carton, it means the TV has no purpose shey? |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 1:15pm On Jan 06 |
Aemmyjah:1. Which organs were hitherto said to be useless? 2. The brain is an organ that was evolved. Nobody said it came by blind chance. Are you usually this cretarded in life? So if it was complex, then boom, Yahweh exists. Are you also aware the brain has its limitations? From this limitations I can say the creator is a fool(if at all there is) Did it occur to you that the vagina(where babies come from) is 7cm to the poop hole and thus is messy? Some babies during birth may be covered with feces and thus we use macs to separate them. Also our evolution from quadripeds to bipeds has led to common diseases like hemorrhoids. Read up more about the flaws in human beings here https://nautil.us/top-10-design-flaws-in-the-human-body-235403/ If this is 'Intelligent Design', then Yahweh is even more cretarded than you 3. H. Erectus etc are our ancestors and gave birth to modern human H. Sapiens. And yes you can determine the features of a human by studying the skull. I know you're a daftie and science is beyond you 4. Yes I know Ida. It's the fossil of a juvenile primate. What about it, dvmmyjah? 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 1:17pm On Jan 06 |
Aemmyjah:She clearly and literally showed you a post where Chatgpt said abiogenesis is no more scientifically acceptable. Yet you're bent on spewing trash. These guys did a number on you 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 2:58pm On Jan 06 |
jaephoenix: You are very terrible with comprehension. Extremely terrible. This was the question Now tell me what happened to it, how many people at that time wrote about it's destruction. Instead u bringing modern day articles on it and a 1882 painting. Pompeii was destroyed in 79 AD by a volcanic eruption. How did we know how it was destroyed. Who told us it was destroyed by a volcano, what's our source. Tell me who wrote about the destruction of Pompeii as at the time it happened. That's my question. Who and who in the 1st century AD wrote about the destruction of Pompeii. How did we know what happened to Pompeii. Do U get it now? Mr Dumb. Now go back and research with a better answer now that u understand the question. Ode Check your own sources, the answer u looking for is there. |
Re: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 3:10pm On Jan 06 |
jaephoenix: Lol Facts from someone who lacks comprehension skills, can't interpret questions appropriately, can't research his own source properly. Have u ever written a research paper b4. Even if it's just a case base study or case control. I'm not even talking of systematic or cohort design because the way u wrote here, I doubt u even understand methodology. Just a simple observational study. Have u ever published or defend a paper written by u b4. |
Re: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 3:29pm On Jan 06 |
jaephoenix: Your ignorance of council of Nicea is nauseating, replying u is an insult to my intelligence. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea Pls don't disturb me with council of nicea unless u properly digest the article. I think u need an IQ test seriously. Let's know how dumb u are because your inability to comprehend is becoming worrisome. I asked for where God has flowing hair u bringing human with long hair When did Jezebel or David become God? What are u insinuating, that only white people have long hair? Seriously. Does this dark skin refugee girl fit the descriptions in those verse.
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Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 3:49pm On Jan 06 |
SIRTee15:Rapist, all these your repeated shouting of 62 pages, now you are empty like your murderer creator who kills children. How come you are cherry picking when to use Wikipedia? When are they right or wrong? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_reliability_of_the_Gospels#:~:text=Most%20scholars%20agree%20that%20they,than%20the%20testimony%20of%20eyewitnesses.
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Re: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 4:26pm On Jan 06 |
Maynman: Ask your useless father and prostitute mother. |
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 4:36pm On Jan 06 |
SIRTee15:Unfortunate rapist, and a slacked and used whor.e you call a mom will all be doomed. You were repeating yourself like a broken clock, when it gets to action you became powerless like your Jewish creator |
Re: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 4:44pm On Jan 06 |
Maynman: A father who molest his children is a useless father- that's your dad. A mother who drinks when pregnant, looks on while the father abuse the kids and now becomes a community cheerful giver is a prostitute. That's your mum. You will eventually run mad here....just keep quoting me. |
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 4:49pm On Jan 06 |
SIRTee15:A father who molest his children and even other children and kills them is a murderer and a rapist just like that unfortunate mess you call a father. A used and a slacked who.re you call Mom who has been throughly used by the public , just look at the 2 unfortunate animals that have birth to you. By the time I'm done with you, your father and mother won't be sane enough to recognize their animal offspring they call chidlren. You are doomed, I'll quote your father ANYTIME and we are going to that 63 pages. |
Re: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 4:53pm On Jan 06 |
Maynman: Rantings of a madman already losing it. Keep quoting my posts here..... U will eventually have a bed in Yaba left. When u stop quoting on nairaland , we will all know where to find u. Product is a paedophile dad and LovePeddler mum deserves to be mad. |
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 4:56pm On Jan 06 |
SIRTee15:Product of an unfortunate man and a used and slacked whor.e you call a mom. By the time I'm done with you, your father and mother won't be sane enough to recognize their animal offspring they call chidlren. You are doomed, I'll quote your father ANYTIME and we are going to that 63 pages. Deranged rapist just like your father and your Jewish creator yahweh. 1 Like
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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:47pm On Jan 06 |
jaephoenix: Good So life cannot emerge from inorganic matter shey? Who or what is the source of life? Have you considered the mathematical probability? |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:49pm On Jan 06 |
jaephoenix: Here is Isaiah 40:22 in Hebrew: "הַיֹּשֵׁב֙ עַל־ח֣וּג הָאָ֔רֶץ וְיֹשְׁבֶ֖יהָ כַּחֲגָבִ֑ים הַנֹּוטֶ֤ה כַדֹּק֙ שָׁמַ֔יִם וַיִּמְתָּחֵ֥ם כָּאֹ֖הֶל לָשָֽׁבֶת׃"—Isaiah 40:22 Parallel Hebrew Texts The operative word here is: "ח֣וּג", (khoog), meaning circle, vault, horizon, circuit, or compass. Is a vault a 2-dimensional object? No! Does a horizon occur on a flat surface? No! (The very fact that ancient Hebrew had a word defined as "horizon", proves that those speaking it, knew that the earth is not flat.) Therefore, this word is not constrained to describing 2-dimensional objects, so: "It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in."—Isaiah 40:22 (Douay-Rheims Bible, the Catholic contemporary of the KJV) Ancient languages didn't have a separate word for sphere, any more than they had a concept of zero. (Modern Hebrew is irrelevant, because it's a completely different language.) Ancient languages had to make do with words that also meant, "circle". Additional insight is available from the book of Job, which was written earlier than Isaiah: "He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing."—Job 26:7 (KJV) In Job's poetic language, the north indicates the night sky, which "stretcheth out" from the north pole, around which it rotates. The knowledge that the sky appears to rotates around a place that is so far displaced from directly overhead, but that the axis of rotation was not level with the ground, and that the sun never quite appeared overhead at noon, were clues that if one were far enough to the north on the surface of the earth, the sky would appear to rotate directly overhead, but one's position on the surface of the earth must be tilted to the north from Job's location. Therefore, a mind sharp enough to correctly observe these things should deduce that the earth was not a 2-dimensional object, but round in all directions. How else would he have deduced that the earth hangs upon nothing, at a time when other people were making up nonsense stories about the earth riding upon the backs of elephants or turtles? When translated comprehensibly, verse 10 is even more impressive: '“He has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters At the boundary of light and darkness."'—Job 26:10 (NASB) "He marks out the horizon on the face of the waters for a boundary between light and darkness."—Job 26:10 (NIV) Whether one recognizes the circular division of day from night as describing the boundary between light and dark hemispheres, or as a horizon, (which presumes the curvature of the earth), that the earth is a globe is inescapable |
Re: Does God Exist? by budaatum: 5:58pm On Jan 06 |
Aemmyjah: The evidence in this thread does not show what you Aemmyjah claim you see, and in fact makes me wonder if you even studied biology in secondary school. Just saying in case feedback matters to you. 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:04pm On Jan 06 |
budaatum: U yourself have seen how Jaephoenix has been contradicting himself A doctor that says that childbirth is not painful in women Later he said he may have been referring to goats Shrug I stated scientific facts, not an hypothesis or obsolete fact |
Re: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 7:28pm On Jan 06 |
Aemmyjah: I seriously doubt that guy is a doctor. The gaffs he makes in field of medicine shows he's severely deficient in medical knowledge. Even nursing student would not make such mistakes. |
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