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Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by Juraj: 8:17pm On Jan 08
My friend is attempting to get tourist Visa to a Schengen country, one of the requirements is proof of employment.
He have tried with Offer Letter but it got rejected, when asked at workplace nobody seems to have Employment Contract either.
When asked directly his boss, he is being told that there is only offer letter.

Are they trying to gaslight him or is it common practice to only get an offer letter ?

Work is long term, full time, already there for 2 years +
Thanks

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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by stevolinkon40: 11:11pm On Jan 08
Juraj:
My friend is attempting to get tourist Visa to a Schengen country, one of the requirements is proof of employment.
He have tried with Offer Letter but it got rejected, when asked at workplace nobody seems to have Employment Contract either.
When asked directly his boss, he is being told that there is only offer letter.

Are they trying to gaslight him or is it common practice to only get an offer letter ?

Work is long term, full time, already there for 2 years +
Thanks

Offer letter requires you to respond, accepting the offer. Then you get an employment contract stating your hours of work, pay rate and probation period and others. In most case, you will have all the information already on the offer letter but you need an employment letter or reference letter from work for visa purposes.

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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by Juraj: 11:41pm On Jan 08
stevolinkon40:


Offer letter requires you to respond, accepting the offer. Then you get an employment contract stating your hours of work, pay rate and probation period and others. In most case, you will have all the information already on the offer letter but you need an employment letter or reference letter from work for visa purposes.

Thank you so much for response. Indeed all the information was already included in in Offer Letter, however employer of my friend is pretending there is no "Employment Contract"/"Employment Letter" and that there is nothing they can do ("Reference Letter"/"Employment Confirmation" ). Which makes me feel like they are trying to hide something.
(For example officially they allow only 5 vacation days a year which is less than federal minimum I think)

What you said makes sense, but was giving them benefit of the doubt as I'm not local and there is only limited amount of resources for me online.

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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by athaboi(f): 10:25am On Jan 09
The company should generate employment letter for him with breakdown of his emoluments and benefits except they don't want him to japa

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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by DenreleDave(m): 10:25am On Jan 09
Isn't offer letter suppose to carry employment letter?

any way, i understand the employment contract sha. na for nigeria we dey dabaru everything
Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by SmartyPants(m): 10:26am On Jan 09
Juraj:
My friend is attempting to get tourist Visa to a Schengen country, one of the requirements is proof of employment.
He have tried with Offer Letter but it got rejected, when asked at workplace nobody seems to have Employment Contract either.
When asked directly his boss, he is being told that there is only offer letter.

Are they trying to gaslight him or is it common practice to only get an offer letter ?

Work is long term, full time, already there for 2 years +
Thanks

Well in the West the practice is to send you an initial offer letter outlining the terms of the proposed contract but this is not treated as the final agreement. I'm not sure why they do this, but you still need a subsequent contract.

Also you have used gaslight wrongly.

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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by Skillsnigeria: 10:26am On Jan 09
Hmmm
Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by Kobicove(m): 10:27am On Jan 09
Let him send a copy of the offer letter including the portion where he signed and accepted the offer

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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by ogododo: 10:30am On Jan 09
Juraj:
My friend is attempting to get tourist Visa to a Schengen country, one of the requirements is proof of employment.
He have tried with Offer Letter but it got rejected, when asked at workplace nobody seems to have Employment Contract either.
When asked directly his boss, he is being told that there is only offer letter.

Are they trying to gaslight him or is it common practice to only get an offer letter ?

Work is long term, full time, already there for 2 years +
Thanks
Na employment letter, dem fit offer you wey you no accept. As I dey, I got many offer letters wey I no accept.

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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by opera1(m): 10:30am On Jan 09
We only have OFFER OF APPOINTMENT LETTER here after which it will be changed to PERMANENTLY LETTER OF EMPLOYMENT


Maybe they are referring to the LETTER OF EMPLOYMENT.
Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by casualobserver: 10:31am On Jan 09
Juraj:
My friend is attempting to get tourist Visa to a Schengen country, one of the requirements is proof of employment.
He have tried with Offer Letter but it got rejected, when asked at workplace nobody seems to have Employment Contract either.
When asked directly his boss, he is being told that there is only offer letter.

Are they trying to gaslight him or is it common practice to only get an offer letter ?

Work is long term, full time, already there for 2 years +
Thanks

Why don’t you ask the company for a letter to the embassy confirming you are an employee stating how long you have been there as well as payslips.

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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by oluwaseyi0: 10:33am On Jan 09
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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by Lanre1st(m): 10:35am On Jan 09
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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by MeineMutter: 10:35am On Jan 09
Juraj:
My friend is attempting to get tourist Visa to a Schengen country, one of the requirements is proof of employment.
He have tried with Offer Letter but it got rejected, when asked at workplace nobody seems to have Employment Contract either.
When asked directly his boss, he is being told that there is only offer letter.

Are they trying to gaslight him or is it common practice to only get an offer letter ?

Work is long term, full time, already there for 2 years +
Thanks

Our own offer letter and employment contract are lumped up unlike what they are used to in Europe which is only employment contract.

Tell your friend to see how for sample employment contract in the European country he is visiting.
He should take the sample to his company in Nigeria and tell or ask them if they can draft an employment contract for him, using that sample as a guide.

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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by oladele239(m): 10:42am On Jan 09
Pay make we run am for you.
Using the info on the one he / She has
Though with the consent of the employer
Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by casualobserver: 10:43am On Jan 09
SmartyPants:


Well in the West the practice is to send you an initial offer letter outlining the terms of the proposed contract but this is not treated as the final agreement. I'm not sure why they do this, but you still need a subsequent contract.

Also you have used gaslight wrongly.
It depends, it is not always the case. If I recall correctly as this was a while ago, I had jobs in the uk where all there was was the letter of appointment, no contract, no acceptance letter no nothing. I have also had jobs where it was in the form of a fixed term contract where a contract was prepared and signed. I also had jobs with offer letter, acceptance and employment contract. I also had jobs in my student days where there was no contract and no appointment letter but those were not serious jobs..I.e sales staff etc

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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by verybadmouth(m): 10:44am On Jan 09
Any as long as the pay is huge
Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by GRACEGLORY: 10:45am On Jan 09
Smh
Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by buJu234: 10:46am On Jan 09
His visa wouldn't be approved until the employer is committed via the employment contract or letter.

Also, the employer is acting like either a fraudster or he wants to use ur friend.

Tell him to becareful with that employer.

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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by SmartyPants(m): 10:47am On Jan 09
casualobserver:

It depends, it is not always the case. If I recall correctly, I had jobs in the uk where all there was was the letter of appointment, no contract, no acceptance letter no nothing. I have also had jobs where it was in the form of a fixed term contract where a contract was prepared and signed. I also had jobs with offer letter, acceptance and employment contract. I also had jobs in my student days where there was no contract and no appointment letter but those were not serious jobs..I.e sales staff etc

Yeah, but these are all different things: Appointment letters and contracts of employment, are final documents. An offer letter is a preparatory document that outlines terms that you can negotiate. The acceptance of an offer letter doesn't imply an employment relationship, only that any subsequent contract will be in accordance with the terms you have agreed upon. An offer letter can be rescinded but a contract of employment cannot be rescinded without legal consequences.

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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by shiwex: 10:50am On Jan 09
Offer letter is offering you a job

you accept job with agreed terms and conditions

then Employment letter is created and sent too you with a start date.
Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by israelmao(m): 10:55am On Jan 09
To mine mind,employment contract comes after offer letter,an offer simply means the right to accept or reject while employment contract spells out the obligations between an employer and employee with terms and conditions.

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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by Originalsly: 10:57am On Jan 09
Juraj:


What you said makes sense, but was giving them benefit of the doubt as I'm not local and there is only limited amount of resources for me online.


Hmmm ... I'm confused ... I thought it was your friend trying to get the visa.

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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by casualobserver: 10:58am On Jan 09
SmartyPants:


Yeah but these are all different things: Appointment letters and contracts of employment, are final documents. An offer letter is a preparatory document that outlines terms that you can negotiate. The acceptance of an offer letter doesn't imply an employment relationship, only that any subsequent contract will be in accordance with the terms you have agree upon. An offer letter can be rescinded but a contract of empolment cannot be rescinded without legal consequences.

I do t think you understand what I wrote. I recall my first job after my master’s where (to the best of my recollection) all I had was the appointment letter. It was a small consultancy with many multinational clients. I am almost certain I did not write an acceptance letter as I remember I had the interview on a Friday and started on the Monday.


EDIT: Now that I think about it, there was indeed an employment contract( as I remember there was an issue over payment in lieu of statutory leave when the company went bust) but I am certain I did not write a formal acceptance. So I guess if there was an employment contract, then I must have signed it….which is in effect formal acceptance.

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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by BarrElChapo(m): 11:00am On Jan 09
Originalsly:


Hmmm ... I'm confused ... J though it was your friend trying to get the visa.

😂 you don catch Sherlock Kyari 😂🫡
Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by Oyindamolah: 11:11am On Jan 09

Contract Work
Contract work doesn’t last forever. Generally speaking, a contract job lasts three to twelve months. This timeline could vary depending on the company you’re working for. Here are some pros and cons to consider before accepting a contract job.

Contract Work Pros
A contract job gives you a flexible schedule.
You’ll have an opportunity to learn new skills in a short amount of time.
You can offset lack of benefits by earning higher pay.

You have a chance to work in many different industries.
You can try out different jobs until you find your passion and a career you’ll love.

Contract jobs are a way to get your foot in the door with a company.
A contract job gives you the opportunity to test the waters to see if the company is the right fit for you without a long-term commitment.
Contract work allows you to build a larger network. The interview process for contract work can be a lot faster than interviewing for a permanent position.

A contract job is a great way to enhance your resume. This has the potential to give you new job opportunities in the future.

Contract Work Cons
Depending on your role, contract work can have less job security. You’ll have to job hunt after the contract work ends.

You may have to learn new skills quickly in a contract job.

Contract workers are not provided benefits, including health care and paid time off.

As a contract employee, your holidays and sick time pay will be different from those in a permanent job position.

You will have to pay for any training and acquire new skills out of your pocket.
Some contract jobs include photography, web developer, virtual assistant, social media marketer, editor, graphic designer, web designer, and online writer.

Permanent Position
Just like contract jobs, permanent positions also have their pros and cons. Here are some things to consider before applying.


Permanent Work Pros
You have job security in a permanent work position. Because your contract is not a fixed-term contract, it will not end on a specific date.
As a permanent employee, you have career opportunities that will help you work your way up the career ladder.
You’ll have training and development opportunities. This will allow you to have training days and other development that your employer pays for.
A permanent position gives you the chance to build professional relationships with colleagues.

Permanent Work Cons
You may get bored in a permanent work position. You may start to feel like the work isn’t challenging or as interesting as it once was. As a contract employee, there’s something new and interesting each time you change roles.
As a permanent employee, there are only so many pay raises and promotions you can achieve.
Your skill set may not grow as much in a permanent position and may become stagnant and stale at times.
You might feel “stuck” in a permanent work position. You may feel the need to be loyal to your company but also desire to move on and expand your horizons.
A permanent job is less flexible than a contract job. Employers expect you to work set hours indefinitely.
Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by Rhozabeth(m): 11:16am On Jan 09
As an HR practitioner, there should be and offer letter and an employment contract. The offer letter is just stating the role you are offered, your pay and your date of resumption. However, the employment contract will state all the other conditions attached to the role. If any employer does not give an employment contract, the employer is up to no good, it means they want to vary the conditions of the role in directions that will favor them only!

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Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by adesegun121(m): 11:21am On Jan 09
Ok
Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by kkboy(m): 11:21am On Jan 09
It's either your employer gives you appointment letter or employment agreement. Offer letter is a prelude to these either letters.
Re: Employment Contract Vs Offer Letter by Emeka71(m): 11:37am On Jan 09
stevolinkon40:


Offer letter requires you to respond, accepting the offer. Then you get an employment contract stating your hours of work, pay rate and probation period and others. In most case, you will have all the information already on the offer letter but you need an employment letter or reference letter from work for visa purposes.
I think employment contract is better than offer letter.

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