Never judge a man of God because you are not God! Leave all judgements of his servants to God alone.
That's all i can say from this Bbc saga

He who has ears to hear, let them hear!

Moshybear:
Never judge a man of God because your are not God! Leave all judgements of his servants to God alone. That's all i can say from this Bbc saga He who has ears to hear, let them hear.

What you are saying is that if this supposed man of God raped your mother, sister, or daughter, you would not judge him abi?

I truly believe that wickedness lies smack in the hearts of men(and women) and Nigerians exemplify this by their very existence.

Moshybear:
Never judge a man of God because your are not God! Leave all judgements of his servants to God alone.
That's all i can say from this Bbc saga

He who has ears to hear, let them hear.

Your self-styled god of Man (goM) must answer for his sins from beyond the grave.
The organisation he left behind must be fully investigated and sanctioned. Lessons need to be learnt.

But most of all, we need proper safeguarding laws that makes it a serious crime to hold people against their will.

Kobojunkie:
What you are saying is that if this supposed man of God raped your mother, sister, or daughter, you would not judge him abi?

I truly believe that wickedness lies smack in the hearts of men(and women) and Nigerians exemplify this by their very existence.

So what's the use of the investigation?
To arrest him in the grave?
Please make it make sense

Also, why didn't they do the documentary when he was alive?

Remember, the dead tell no tales. Also the supposed "witness" all seem vague to me in all honesty.

Lastly, there are basically uncountable verifiable evidences performed in the church
Also, his charity works are not hidden. So what's the point exactly?

DaddyJapan:


Your self-styled god of Man (goM) must answer for his sins from beyond the grave.
The organisation he left behind must be fully investigated and sanctioned. Lessons need to be learnt.

But most of all, we need proper safeguarding laws that makes it a serious crime to hold people against their will.

Lol so what's the use now he can NL longer answer for him self?
The supposed documentary would have been more useful when he was alive.
Don't you think?

Moshybear:
■ So what's the use of the investigation? To arrest him in the grave? Please make it make sense.
■ Also, why didn't they do the documentary when he was alive? Remember, the dead tell bo tales. Also the supposed "witness" all seem vague to me in all honesty.
■ Lastly, there are basically uncountable verifiable evidences performed in the church Also, his charity works are not hidden. So what's the point exactly?

So, if a man rapes your daughter/mother/sister, you will willingly let it go if the man commits suicide or dies? You won't seek justice of any kind after that?

2. Before you post anything else.... check the following attempts made to reveal the man dating as far back as 2009 here in Nairaland alone.

https://www.nairaland.com/270874/t.b-joshuas-miracle-fake-unverifiable#3849234
https://www.nairaland.com/394395/tb-joshua-country/3#5536846
https://www.nairaland.com/5276232/pst-biodun-bisola-evil-motivated#79852869
https://www.nairaland.com/3500873/man-tb-joshua#51625150
https://www.nairaland.com/767191/tb-joshuas-secret-exposed-ex-muslim/5#45986110
https://www.nairaland.com/858513/ashawos-atempt-seduce-tb-joshua#10080579
https://www.nairaland.com/819463/must-watch-tb-joshuas-evil#9710765
https://www.nairaland.com/792409/tb-joshuas-critics-pharisee-chronicle#9443131
https://www.nairaland.com/779122/bisola-johnson-red-light-district#9314025
https://www.nairaland.com/768372/paid-lie-against-pastor-t#9268027

Stop rapping like chicken wey no get head abeg! Go watch the documentary already!

3. So it is ok for a man to rape your children so long as he gives you food and stuff, abi?

Moshybear:
Lol so what's the use now he can NL longer answer for him self?
The supposed documentary would have been more useful when he was alive.
Don't you think?

If I understand your logic correctly, Abacha's crimes should not have been investigated after his death.
There were no lessons to be learnt and Nigeria's Truth Commission (Oputa Panel) was merely a distraction, because ALL judgement should have been left to God.

Do you see the problem with your direction of travel?

Tb joshua might not be a good man... But i know most humans are not either.

Atleast he preached love and not donations

Allthelight:
Tb joshua might not be a good man... But i know most humans are not either.

So there is absolutely no point to the argument for justice, right?

x

Some of the respondents here have clearly had their brains rewired by Cult-Daddy.

How cults rewire the brain | Diane Benscoter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL0uxDscjdo

Kobojunkie:
So, if a man rapes your daughter/mother/sister, you will willingly let it go if the man commits suicide or dies? You won't seek justice of any kind after that?

2. Before you post anything else.... check the following attempts made to reveal the man dating as far back as 2009 here in Nairaland alone.

https://www.nairaland.com/270874/t.b-joshuas-miracle-fake-unverifiable#3849234
https://www.nairaland.com/394395/tb-joshua-country/3#5536846
https://www.nairaland.com/5276232/pst-biodun-bisola-evil-motivated#79852869
https://www.nairaland.com/3500873/man-tb-joshua#51625150
https://www.nairaland.com/767191/tb-joshuas-secret-exposed-ex-muslim/5#45986110
https://www.nairaland.com/858513/ashawos-atempt-seduce-tb-joshua#10080579
https://www.nairaland.com/819463/must-watch-tb-joshuas-evil#9710765
https://www.nairaland.com/792409/tb-joshuas-critics-pharisee-chronicle#9443131
https://www.nairaland.com/779122/bisola-johnson-red-light-district#9314025
https://www.nairaland.com/768372/paid-lie-against-pastor-t#9268027

Stop rapping like chicken wey no get head abeg! Go watch the documentary already!

3. So it is ok for a man to rape your children so long as he gives you food and stuff, abi?

Where is the evidence for the rape? Or we should all blindly accept the word or mouth confession?

Also, most of the links you posted have nothing to do with the topic at hand

And yes I've watched the BBC interview and still wasn't convinced by their claims most especially from BBC the broadcasting network of the country of the chief imperialist criminals that has enslaved our generations for years. Why should i believe their claims or take them seriously?
The royal family has done far worse. When are we getting their own documentary?

Allthelight:
Tb joshua might not be a good man... But i know most humans are not either.

Atleast he preached love and not donations

Exactly my point. Nobody is perfect, he had his flaws obviously like all human beings.

DaddyJapan:


If I understand your logic correctly, Abacha's crimes should not have been investigated after his death.
There were no lessons to be learnt, and Nigeria's Truth Commission (Oputa Panel) was merely a distraction, because ALL judgement should have been left to God.

Do you see the problem with your direction of travel?

I need clear cut evidence and not word of mouth confession. So there was not a single video evidences that showed the rapes and abuses. With all the cameras on stand by?

https://www.nairaland.com/7964371/tb-joshua-paid-university-scholarship

Just hit the front page

Uncountable testimonies about this "evil" man

Moshybear:
■ Where is the evidence for the rape? Or we should all blindly accept the word or mouth confession? Also, most of the links you posted have nothing to do with the topic at hand. And yes I've watched the BBC interview and still wasn't convinced by their claims most especially from BBC the country of the chief imperialist criminals that has enslaved our generations for years. Why should i believe their claims or take them seriously?

You are asking me for evidence, clearly revealing you didn't watch the video.

Kobojunkie:
So there is absolutely no point to the argument for justice, right?

if there is evidence you can go to court. Why make a utube video when you can go to court and seek justice

Kobojunkie:
You are asking me for evidence, clearly revealing you didn't watch the video.

Apart from the word of mouth confession, what else? What evidence? can you pinpoint any part the video that showed such?

I'm waiting

Moshybear:
I need clear cut evidence and not word of mouth confession. So there was not a single video evidences that showed the rapes and abuses. With all the cameras on stand by?

Your lack of compassion is actually sickening. What kind of woman are you?

Is it the victim being raped that you expect to hold up an iPhone? While being restrained in Cult-Daddy's personal fortress?
What's the matter with you?

A BBC crew that attempted to record footage of the church's Lagos compound from a public street in March 2022 was also fired at by the church's security, and was detained for a number of hours.

Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-67749215

Are you so blinkered and irrational that you can't even ask intelligent questions?

Moshybear:
Apart from the word of mouth confession, what else? What evidence? can you pinpoint any part the video that showed such? I'm waiting

Confessions no longer admission.... tooor!!!

Anywho, Recall that the man supposedly went to take a break during a Saturday night sermon.

It was reported that TB Joshua walked out of a Saturday night sermon to take a little break but did not return to continue the mass. Those in attendance only became aware of the situation when it took long without seeing the preacher return. Upon a search at his apartment, he was found dead at 2 am.
Televangelist TB Joshua Died

Well, as it turns out, he probably already had wind of what was coming for him at that time. And given the manner of his exit, and the fact that there was no follow-up given on what exactly killed him — an autopsy was done but no announcement was made— it seems he may have committed suicide. This shines a new light on the claim that TB Joshua prophesied his death. He must have been informed that they were finally coming for him — the end of the charade was already new — and he kind of hinted to his followers of it but they took it as some sort of "spiritual" prophesy not realizing it may have been laced with hint of him taking his own life.

Allthelight:
if there is evidence you can go to court. Why make a utube video when you can go to court and seek justice

Cases were already in court before the man decided to conveniently die.

Recall that the man supposedly went to take a break during a Saturday night sermon.

It was reported that TB Joshua walked out of a Saturday night sermon to take a little break but did not return to continue the mass. Those in attendance only became aware of the situation when it took long without seeing the preacher return. Upon a search at his apartment, he was found dead at 2 am.
Televangelist TB Joshua Died

Well, as it turns out, he probably already had wind of what was coming for him at that time. And given the manner of his exit, and the fact that there was no follow-up given on what exactly killed him — an autopsy was done but no announcement was made— it seems he may have committed suicide. This shines a new light on the claim that TB Joshua prophesied his death. He must have been informed that they were finally coming for him — the end of the charade was already new — and he kind of hinted to his followers of it but they took it as some sort of "spiritual" prophesy not realizing it may have been laced with hint of him taking his own life.

Kobojunkie:
Cases were already in court before the man decided to conveniently die.

Recall that the man supposedly went to take a break during a Saturday night sermon.
Well, as it turns out, he probably already had wind of what was coming for him at that time. And given the manner of his exit, and the fact that there was no follow-up given on what exactly killed him — an autopsy was done but no announcement was made— it seems he may have committed suicide. This shines a new light on the claim that TB Joshua prophesied his death. He must have been informed that they were finally coming for him — the end of the charade was already new — and he kind of hinted to his followers of it but they took it as some sort of "spiritual" prophesy not realizing it may have been laced with hint of him taking his own life.

no such case, i not a fan of tb joshua but i know there are always videos against i watched my first video far back 2009

Allthelight:
no such case, i not a fan of tb joshua but i know there are always videos against i watched my first video far back 2009

You were not a fan yet you are absolutely sure there was no case? I think it is more the case that you had your blinders on while the man was alive.
TB Joshua Sexual Recklessness With Minors April 18, 2021
TB Joshua's Sexual Recklessness with Minors

DaddyJapan:


Your lack of compassion is actually sickening. What kind of woman are you?

Is it the victim being raped that you expect to hold up an iPhone? While being restrained in Cult-Daddy's personal fortress?
What's the matter with you?


Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-67749215

Are you so blinkered and irrational that you can't even ask intelligent questions?

See ehn, I have emotions and i can't even imagine such a thing happening to my beautiful daughter.

But honestly, experience has made me believe on facts and not emotions cos many people ( home and abroad) have used this our over emotionality to their own advantage especially posts on Social media. Remember mohbad case? and many others.

So tell me, why should i believe in the BBC report? Why exactly?

They were all about how he was using white people for this and that. Pure lunacy and I'm not moved one bit till i see real evidences.

The only thing I have against this man was how the building collapse issue was handled, apart from that nothing else really.

Kobojunkie:
You were not a fan yet you are absolutely sure there was no case? I think it is more the case that you had your blinders on while the man was alive.
TB Joshua Sexual Recklessness With Minors April 18, 2021
TB Joshua's Sexual Recklessness with Minors

The only case against him was that building collapse.. Nothing else if there was we will all know.

Allthelight:
■ The only case against him was that building collapse.. Nothing else if there was we will all know.

So, the case highlighted in that 2021 report there no matter at all?
TB Joshua Sexual Recklessness With Minors April 18, 2021
TB Joshua's Sexual Recklessness with Minors

Kobojunkie:
Cases were already in court before the man decided to conveniently die.

Recall that the man supposedly went to take a break during a Saturday night sermon.
Well, as it turns out, he probably already had wind of what was coming for him at that time. And given the manner of his exit, and the fact that there was no follow-up given on what exactly killed him — an autopsy was done but no announcement was made— it seems he may have committed suicide. This shines a new light on the claim that TB Joshua prophesied his death. He must have been informed that they were finally coming for him — the end of the charade was already new — and he kind of hinted to his followers of it but they took it as some sort of "spiritual" prophesy not realizing it may have been laced with hint of him taking his own life.

So tell me, why exactly should i accept this BBC charade as truth? Or any of them. why exactly? If they are looking for perfection, they should look to Jesus alone without any mediator. Thanks

There has been also allegations of blackmail by the same British and local disciples who were not pleased with the take over of the church by his wife after his passing cos they wanted to be in control of the entire ministry.

What do you have to say about that?

Kobojunkie:
So, the case highlighted in that 2021 report there no matter at all?
TB Joshua Sexual Recklessness With Minors April 18, 2021
TB Joshua's Sexual Recklessness with Minors

like i said there are no case against him.

If you are being raped or tortured just an advice try to hid your dna sample in the room it happened or get a solid evidence, stop disturbing us with utube videos.

Moshybear:
■ So tell me, why exactly should i accept this BBC charade as truth? Or any of them. why exactly? If they are looking for perfection, they should look to Jesus alone without any mediator. ...

Watch the documentary and stop yammering!

Moshybear:
See ehn, I have emotions and i can't even imagine such a thing happening to my beautiful daughter.

But honestly, experience has made me believe on facts and not emotions cos many people ( home and abroad) have used this our over emotionality to their own advantage especially posts on Social media. Remember mohbad case? and many others.

So tell me, why should i believe in the BBC report? Why exactly?

They were all about how he was using white people for this and that. Pure lunacy and I'm not moved one bit till i see real evidences.

The only thing I have against this man was how the building collapse issue was handled, apart from that nothing else really.

You are reading and hearing things selectively. You ignore his false miracles; you ignore his culpability in the death of more than 100 people; you ignore the first-hand accounts of sex offenses already discussed - all while hiding behind the ruse of insufficient video evidence.

You are quite polite, but I am struggling to take you seriously.

But don't worry, in the weeks and months ahead you will hear more about Cult-Daddy Joshua.

See how brainwashed you have been, you mean all this fake men of God should not be judged but a common man should be judged and punished if found guilty of any crime. I wonder why you all take them as special people while they are also humans like you, nobody is a man of God, we are all children of God

Louisbiz:
See how brainwashed you have been, you mean all this fake men of God should not be judged but a common man should be judged and punished if found guilty of any crime. I wonder why you all take them as special people while they are also humans like you, nobody is a man of God, we are all children of God

If you believe a man of God is fake you can distance yourself or try do the opposite of what he is doing... Making a utube videos is useless, it just makes the man more popular.

Most of Tb joshua's message were on love and faith.
You hardly see a pastor teaching mainly on both. Like i said i dont support tb joshua but i am not interested in blaming anybody for there actions.