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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by africandollar: 1:45am On Jan 11
Beverlyjean:


He died during the making...infact...he died suddenly after he learnt that his ex disciples had given their first interview with BBC.....now do the maths

Thank you jare! The guy off himself before INTERPOL go fit come carry am grin
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by Raskimonojendor: 1:47am On Jan 11
olisaEze:
The man practically lived his life in the open, so when did he have the time to rape & abuse so many without those living around him noticing??
Goan watch the video. All your questions are answered in that video.

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by bentenny(m): 1:48am On Jan 11
You cannot shave a man's head in his absence!

I also have my stern reservations against TB Joshua but this media trial against a dead man esp from BBC is slightly suspicious and can be misleading!

There should be a transparent and independent investigation carried out to corroborate and authenticate their claims!

Just believing what someone has said by their very words is simply being irrational and emotional!

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by JapaPrince: 1:48am On Jan 11
I won’t say anything about the rape accusations but you see that building collapse was all in our faces how did he escape without even appearing in court ?

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by mignone(f): 1:50am On Jan 11
dealslip:

How many times do one has to tell you guys that people have been speaking before TB died. Look for Bisola Johnson.
A colleague back then in school told us a story of a co-member of CAC in Osun state, who decided to switch denominations to synagogue, based on TB's media appearances.

A while (dunno how long) after, d man ran back to CAC for safety, claiming dt it was his turn to die, according to some things dt transpired @ synagogue.

After prayers& all, he didn't die, whereas, emissaries from synagogue had paid a condolence visit to his family, not knowing dt he dodged d bullet ...

If na lie, no be me talk am o. Na Bunmi dey go d church.


On a serious note, by their fruits, u shall know them. I always knew, didn't even doubt it one day that d man was evil.

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by lebron7(m): 1:51am On Jan 11
Didijiji:
You guys are yet to understand these foreign Media

For Eg, follow Aljazeera on the war in Gaza... All you see or hear is children killed, women killed, hospitals bombed

Media has a way to control the minds of the gullible

When i have time i will talk forensically about that video

Mumu
You don't know what you're talking about
What will BBC gain by lieing against a pedophile huh?
Some of una ehh

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by lebron7(m): 1:54am On Jan 11
Ereolamide:
Rape and abuse are totally unacceptable even by T.B Joshua but

I know a lot of you must've watched Surviving R.Kelly, the interviews and whatever, funny enough, comedian Dave Chapelle(no pun intended )in one of his specials recounted how the producer of the documentary contacted him to be a part of the documentary.
Dave Chapelle said he told her (the producer) that he knows absolutely nothing about Robert Kelly, later he said the producer went on TV to say Dave said the documentary would be too hot for TV.

Some of these so called documentary maybe scripted, it seems you underestimate the power of the media and the motivation that money gives.

Remember how Michael Jackson was also vilified.

Human beings can be very wicked.
Rape apologist
See how you're doing mental gymnastics to make sure your daddy is innocent

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by lebron7(m): 1:57am On Jan 11
Farrason:


God has not made you Judge or Jury over anyone. Every one can comment online and every one is responsible for their comments on this matter. Be wise and let God handle His business.

Bible already told us that God can not be mocked!!!
Shalom.


You are very stupid,
Very very stupid
God cannot be mocked but tb Joshua was raping children and you're here spewing your religion jargon

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by mignone(f): 1:58am On Jan 11
JapaPrince:
I won’t say anything about the rape accusations but you see that building collapse was all in our faces how did he escape without even appearing in court ?

From d testimonies I've heard over d years, he really bought some authorites over too.
I learnt of a family whose 3 underage girls he sexually abused. They took up d case but lost along d line cos he was more powerful.
In fact, they said that whoever reported him to any police in dt Ikotun/Egbeda axis then, was only wasting hi/her time.

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by lebron7(m): 2:01am On Jan 11
stagger:
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A lot of the footage in that video was scripted. BBC must have paid some of the people featured there. You would be surprised what people do for money.

BBC is an official propaganda machine. Even Paul Kagame has said it more than once. They know how to put pieces together to make a highly compelling story. Listen to all the background music and all...everything was done so professionally and to the script.
What script you fucking idiot
Who would waste time to manufacture propaganda against a dead animal《tb》?
So BBC paid the people that were already his disciples?
Things like this make me realize why Nigeria is so backward; if there are people like you that can boldly defend that rapist I'm afraid the nigerian society would never be more than it is currently.
Spit on your head

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by Countersam(m): 2:02am On Jan 11
gidgiddy:
I took my time yesterday to watch all three Episodes of the BBC documentary on late TB Joshua. A number on women of different races and nationalities, British, South African, Zimbabwean, American, Philippines and Nigerian, all came together to talk about TB Joshua

The one thing all these women had in common is that they once all moved from their respective countries to live in TB Joshua's Region's community, Synagogue Of All Nations, SOAN, and became part of his inner circle.

All the women gave horrific and graphic accounts of rape, underage sex, sexual abuse, physical and verbal abuse carried out on them by TB Joshua.

The South African woman claimed she had three abortions due to multiple rape by TB Joshua. The British women told how TB Joshua would send for them only to sexually molest them. The Zimbabwean gavee a story of how TB Joshua raped her as a virgin and underaged.

Even TB Joshua's own daughter came foward to tell how she confronted her father for multiple sexual molestation of women only for him to have her locked up for months and beaten daily.

I was also shocked at the Story of how the SOAN building collapsed, the lie that was told that an aircraft brought it down, and the coverup that followed as well as the 'fake miracles'

Even though TB Joshua is no longer here to defend himself, I believe these women. There is no smoke without fire. A group of women who live in different countries of the world cannot give similar accounts of sexual abuse by one man without it having an element of truth

I believe that TB Joshua was a rapist, sexual predator and a sociopath. I believe TB Joshua used religion to cover up the evil within himself. He operated as a man of God in the light, but was a devil in the dark.

I also believe that there are many well known men of God who are currently doing what TB Joshua did.
And finally, I also believe he committed suicide to avoid the shame.
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by lebron7(m): 2:03am On Jan 11
luminouz:


So you believed women just by word of mouth? No evidence and you are here saying nonsense.

In your haste, you forgot that while it's possible for him to do all these, it's also possible for these women to be lying, especially now, after his death and they don't have any photos, videos, recorded messages or anything to prove.

Men like you dey fear me on God. You will just listen to emotional drivel from women and believe them without any proof. Nawa for una oh
You sound like you're also a rapist
So because they are women they should not be believed?
I hope when one of your daughter gets raped, the police tell you the same rubbish you spewed here
Animal

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by mignone(f): 2:06am On Jan 11
bentenny:
You cannot shave a man's head in his absence!

I also have my stern reservations against TB Joshua but this media trial against a dead man esp from BBC is slightly suspicious and can be misleading!

Do you know why he didn't belong to the PFN or CAN& why the bodies refused to associate with him? According to sources, while being interviewed for membership, it was discovered that he had no:
- salvation experience
- referees
- previous church(es) attended
- mentor
- etc.

Note:
I'm not a PFN/CAN apologetic but they are a regulatory body, to an extent.

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by mignone(f): 2:14am On Jan 11
ItShallPass:


The Bible says, 'By their fruits, ye shall know them ". We have been saying it for long that TB Joshua is a satanic agent.
They won't hear, since they have no guiding standard.
How on earth will anyone refer to dt man as a good fellow, nt to talk of being a Christian & WORST still, a man of God?

It's d same reason we're being molested & trampled upon in Nigeria; the oppressed have neither any standard nor deal breaker.

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by planetx: 2:16am On Jan 11
A US based pastor exposed that demon so called prophet long ago and said he sacrificed the 116 innocent souls to Satan in that building collapse on September 12 the day after the American controlled demolition charade so called terrorist attack 911 September 11, that is why he had them gathered on the ground floor for lunch for maximum impact, before the controlled demolition. Go and look at the video of the building collapsing and then for 24hrs prevented any rescue reaching them.

7 years later in 2021 according to this pastor another major sacrifice to Satan was due but this time he refused sealing his fate. I pity anyone still attending that synagogue of Satan so called church because most of them are there looking for cheap miracles and healing not for salvation or an encounter with our Lord Jesus Christ. According to the Bible even Satan presented himself as an angel of light and his Ministers as Ministers of righteousness, because someone is performing so called miracles and healing don't mean it's of the Lord Jesus Christ. Two African presidents attending that synagogue of Satan were also sacrificed in 2012 one after the other, the president of Malawi and Atta Mills of Ghana.

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by dealslip(f): 2:19am On Jan 11
luminouz:

Goan sleep jor ...

Any info from women na that one you go believe. Even though I don't support TB Joshua, I don't support castigating any human without evidence, especially men. Haba.
What do you mean about info from women!!! Is it only info from men that is valid??

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by luminouz(m): 2:22am On Jan 11
lebron7:

You sound like you're also a rapist
So because they are women they should not be believed?
I hope when one of your daughter gets raped, the police tell you the same rubbish you spewed here
Animal
See exactly what I just said ..you insulted me and called me animal because I asked you to be logical.

Now, who is the real animal now?

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by jimcaddy(m): 2:22am On Jan 11
U believe that the late Pastor did all that he was accused of without any tangible proof right. These are baseless unsubstantiated allegations. Why did this interview not come out shortly after his death? Why now? Yes I'm not a fan of Pastor Joshua but if you want to make allegations as wieghty as these, please back them up with hardcore facts.

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by Mayflowa(m): 2:31am On Jan 11
Khallicopyro:

Why wait till after his death before exposing him? Because he won't be here to defend himself

I don't understand. There are many pastors exposed that are still alive and they are still balling. Have you heard of Pastor Suleman? There is another pastor, Biodun Fatoyinbo. You think they had be afraid to do so? You need to be emotionally strong to tell your story? Don't you have stories you never shared or stories someone never shared about you?

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by sslcrypt: 2:32am On Jan 11
Ereolamide:
Rape and abuse are totally unacceptable even by T.B Joshua but

I know a lot of you must've watched Surviving R.Kelly, the interviews and whatever, funny enough, comedian Dave Chapelle(no pun intended )in one of his specials recounted how the producer of the documentary contacted him to be a part of the documentary.
Dave Chapelle said he told her (the producer) that he knows absolutely nothing about Robert Kelly, later he said the producer went on TV to say Dave said the documentary would be too hot for TV.

Some of these so called documentary maybe scripted, it seems you underestimate the power of the media and the motivation that money gives.

Remember how Michael Jackson was also vilified.

Human beings can be very wicked.

You think Dave Chappelle will snitch as a fellow Black American? Don't you know snitching in black America is literally death sentence? Lots of black people knew the truth about R Kelly but chose to do see no evil, speak no evil.

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by freenature: 2:34am On Jan 11
Chinjo2:
What baffles me the most is the rate at which people are defending TB Joshua. These people talking are his known disciples and Children.

BBC is not like a Nigerian station that is afraid to air such documentary for fear of being sanctioned by NBC.

We all know what some pastors and Reverend fathers do to young girls that are placed under their tutilages but we still pretend as if they never happened.

TB Joshual was accused by one of his daughters while he was still alive nothing happened. Even Apostle Chibuzor was accused by a girl that was under his roof, people said it is a lie. Why are we pretending as if we don't know what is happening in our local churches.

All those supporting evil, I pray your own daughters become victims of randy pastors. Say Amen.

I think it will be insensitive and naive of anyone who doesn't know about British media outlets. As someone who has had affiliations with British folks, I can tell you for free that this media outlet in particular are a tool. Do you even know how much damage this people have done in terms of lies? If you don't believe follow up on Nigeria's history how this same BBC were instrumental in destroying Nigeria. I know you'll ask how
Read up on how they handled divide and conquer through Herbert Macaulay's instrumentation, BBC was a tool used to misinform, manipulate and lie to various tribes so they can antagonize each other. This snakes were also instrumental in India and Pakistan Case and yet people, particularly Nigerians are gullible to easily believe lies cooked up by this same BBC. Is it that we can't even think at all and why are we so quick to forget history. Remember history of BBC's evil always repeat itself. Media is a strong weapon, they have used it to destroy the mighty. (Trump, Goodluck Jonathan, Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein)

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by chccho(m): 2:47am On Jan 11
lebron7:

Mumu
You don't know what you're talking about
What will BBC gain by lieing against a pedophile huh?
Some of una ehh
Walahi i dont just understand the kain indomie wey dey some people brain

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by chccho(m): 2:51am On Jan 11
lebron7:

What script you fucking idiot
Who would waste time to manufacture propaganda against a dead animal《tb》?
So BBC paid the people that were already his disciples?
Things like this make me realize why Nigeria is so backward; if there are people like you that can boldly defend that rapist I'm afraid the nigerian society would never be more than is is currently.
Spit on your head
Omo i don laugh tire!!! grin grin
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by obaidan: 2:54am On Jan 11
tell BBC to go investigate the living, the man is no longer here to answer for his crimes(if true)....they should go and investigate other living pastors, people are speaking about other pastors....apostle suleiman and others.........BBC should go and investigate now that those ones are still alive and not come to disturb us with silly revelations when they are no more.

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by LegacyB: 2:56am On Jan 11
Chinjo2:
What baffles me the most is the rate at which people are defending TB Joshua. These people talking are his known disciples and Children.

BBC is not like a Nigerian station that is afraid to air such documentary for fear of being sanctioned by NBC.

We all know what some pastors and Reverend fathers do to young girls that are placed under their tutilages but we still pretend as if they never happened.

TB Joshual was accused by one of his daughters while he was still alive nothing happened. Even Apostle Chibuzor was accused by a girl that was under his roof, people said it is a lie. Why are we pretending as if we don't know what is happening in our local churches.

All those supporting evil, I pray your own daughters become victims of randy pastors. Say Amen.

Thank you for this. What baffles me most isthe rate at which their supporter air their views without shame. Our African tradition has been watered down to see no evil, hear no evil , say no evil. If it’s politicians now you will see them firing from all cylinders……
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by lawrenzooo: 2:57am On Jan 11
mignone:

Thank you o.

If i remember well, his case was one of those that complicated Kola Olawuyi's exit isue from FRCN then.

I wonder if people read their Bibles up-side-dowm, cos how can a right thinking fellow, not to talk of a Christian even consider that man a true man of God?

He claimed to specialise in healing, why then has everyone with aliment not gone there through referrals from colleagues, neighbours, friends, etc. who'd got healed?

E.g.: an aunt's colleague's husband didn't get ay healing there, just like many others.

Even in the era of Christ, not everyone got heal at his gatherings.
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by LegacyB: 3:00am On Jan 11
chccho:

Walahi i dont just understand the kain indomie wey dey some people brain
These Genzs could be worse than even baby boomers at the end of the day honestly. Thinking seems to be the hardest task for them.
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by LegacyB: 3:05am On Jan 11
freenature:


I think it will be insensitive and naive of anyone who doesn't know about British media outlets. As someone who has had affiliations with British folks, I can tell you for free that this media outlet in particular are a tool. Do you even know how much damage this people have done in terms of lies? If you don't believe follow up on Nigeria's history how this same BBC were instrumental in destroying Nigeria. I know you'll ask how
Read up on how they handled divide and conquer through Herbert Macaulay's instrumentation, BBC was a tool used to misinform, manipulate and lie to various tribes so they can antagonize each other. This snakes were also instrumental in India and Pakistan Case and yet people, particularly Nigerians are gullible to easily believe lies cooked up by this same BBC. Is it that we can't even think at all and why are we so quick to forget history. Remember history of BBC's evil always repeat itself. Media is a strong weapon, they have used it to destroy the mighty. (Trump, Goodluck Jonathan, Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein)
Now I see why you think this way. A list of your so called mighty men says it all.

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by MyVILLAGEpeople(m): 3:12am On Jan 11
Farrason:


God has not made you Judge or Jury over anyone. Every one can comment online and every one is responsible for their comments on this matter. Be wise and let God handle His business.

Bible already told us that God can not be mocked!!!
Shalom.






I'm surprised his nonsense post got to FP
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by bentenny(m): 3:17am On Jan 11
mignone:

Do you know why he didn't belong to the PFN or CAN& why the bodies refused to associate with him? According to sources, while being interviewed for membership, it was discovered that he had no:
- salvation experience
- referees
- previous church(es) attended
- mentor
- etc.

Note:
I'm not a PFN/CAN apologetic but they are a regulatory body, to an extent.
Read what I wrote but do so slowly!
Never in my comment did I absolve TB Joshua or even hold brief for him!

However,I take exception to this media bandwagon where people already pronounce someone guilty based on a testimony of people rather than stone wall evidence!

Let a private investigation be carried out about and if proven,that he was guilty as well as his disciples,then they should be held accountable!

And by the way, there are clergymen who have all the requirements you have listed including being PFN or CAN members but still done worse crimes than what TB Joshua was alleged to have committed!
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by chccho(m): 3:21am On Jan 11
LegacyB:

These Genzs could be worse than even baby boomers at the end of the day honestly. Thinking seems to be the hardest task for them.
Dont be surprised its not a Genz supporting all this. A lot of people supporting this are even from the 80s & probably 70s
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by chccho(m): 3:24am On Jan 11
bentenny:

Read what I wrote but do so slowly!
Never in my comment did I absolve TB Joshua or even hold brief for him!

However,I take exception to this media bandwagon where people already pronounce someone guilty based on a testimony of people rather than stone wall evidence!

Let a private investigation be carried out about and if proven,that he was guilty as well as his disciples,then they should be held accountable!

And by the way, there are clergymen who have all the requirements you have listed including being PFN or CAN members but still done worse crimes than what TB Joshua was alleged to have committed!
What exactly is your point cos i dont even get it. The investigation that was carried out by BBC isnt private enough?? Or the testimony from his own biological daughter is also fabricated Are u for or against pick one side and stop sitting on the fence. Its either Yes or No

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