Minsk24:

Lol, are u just hating US without realizing the root cause of crises that led to US intervention....the US led global order has brought stability.. while the US has not been perfect, they have done well and we can only hope to see improvements in global order, this may be from multi -polar system with the rise of China, or strengthening and reforming the UN....

Us global order has brought stability? Like seriously? Please remind me again of all the world powers, who has been involved in more wars since after the ww2? Peace and stability loving USA shey? u ppl are very funny o


Please what is the peace loving USA still doing in Syria till date? Ensuring stability since the coup they staged didn't work out like it did in Ukraine and in Venezuela partially.

Jovi10:




Us global order has brought stability? Like seriously? Please remind me again of all the world powers, who has been involved in more wars since after the ww2? Peace and stability loving USA shey? u ppl are very funny o


Please what is the peace loving USA still doing in Syria till date? Ensuring stability since the coup they staged didn't work out like it did in Ukraine and in Venezuela partially.

Lol , let me school you, the US order has led tl the greatest advancement of mankind...
When u talk about wars after ww2, remember ww2 led to the fall of colonial empires, leaving a power vacuum which the US and USSR tussled for influence....
This is a normal geo-political scenario where powers seek influence via different methods... ultimately,the US and the west came out tops...
Have u researched on the wars after ww2 and seen the root causes, and understand how external powers tried to take advantage? If u have done so, u wont be here talking bs about US, is US a saint? Not at all, there's no morality in geo-politics, its about strategic interest...
I want to ask you, why do u think US has so many military base around the world? Did they force themselves on the host countries? The countries want the US to have presence because they trust the US....they trust the Rules-based international order instituted by the US, is the system perfect? Not at all...is the US perfect? Not at all.....does US imperfections negate the impact of their influence? Not at all...
U can hate on the US for different reasons, but u must understand the powerful influence the US has had on the world.... apart from the British empire, no other power has influenced the world compared to the US...

Minsk24:

Lol , let me school you, the US order has led tl the greatest advancement of mankind...
When u talk about wars after ww2, remember ww2 led to the fall of colonial empires, leaving a power vacuum which the US and USSR tussled for influence....
This is a normal geo-political scenario where powers seek influence via different methods... ultimately,the US and the west came out tops...
Have u researched on the wars after ww2 and seen the root causes, and understand how external powers tried to take advantage? If u have done so, u wont be here talking bs about US, is US a saint? Not at all, there's no morality in geo-politics, its about strategic interest...
I want to ask you, why do u think US has so many military base around the world? Did they force themselves on the host countries? The countries want the US to have presence because they trust the US....they trust the Rules-based international order instituted by the US, is the system perfect? Not at all...is the US perfect? Not at all.....does US imperfections negate the impact of their influence? Not at all...
U can hate on the US for different reasons, but u must understand the powerful influence the US has had on the world.... apart from the British empire, no other power has influenced the world compared to the US...

Power tussle because of the vacuum is why the Usa has the right to sponsor coups all over the world? Its why the USA have the right to attack those nations and cause destructions there? Its why the usa has the right to sanction any country that refuses to listen to thir biddings and deliberately disobey the UN ? Its the same reasons that makes gay rights more important than savings lives of africans being killed by terrorist?

Jovi10:



Power tussle because of the vacuum is why the Usa has the right to sponsor coups all over the world? Its why the USA have the right to attack those nations and cause destructions there? Its why the usa has the right to sanction any country that refuses to listen to thir biddings and deliberately disobey the UN ? Its the same reasons that makes gay rights more important than savings lives of africans being killed by terrorist?

Sponsoring of coup is a legitimate way to protect your interest, like i said, there's no morality in geo-politics, u have to protect your strategic interest, but what is the long term outcome of your interest as it relates to the world , that is the unit of measure...
Which nation did USA attack after ww2? That is why u need to do ur research before coming out to speak, US wars after ww2 were interventions to support different factions in the tussle for power...
For example US intervened to support south Vietnam, while the USSR and china supported North Vietnam, same thing in Korea...and all over the world...the US and USSR supported different factions in wars, this was to protect their interests and promote influence...
The US has made unilateral sanctions, in bid to protect its interest and promote its influence, any hegemonic power will do the same....for example, if Nigeria were to recognize Taiwan today, China will place sanctions on abuja, this is normal geo-politics...and as the world evolves, we will see new systems that will make the world a better place...for example, the rise of China is creating a multi -polar world order, US place as the sole hegemonic power is fast deteriorating....what will this shift mean for the world? On the positive side, i hope it brings more balance that the world desperately needs....
Supporting gay rights is supporting human rights according to the view of Washington, it is normal for hegemonic powers to push their influence on their subordinates, this enables soft power...and in return , soft power is very effective tool for power influence

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Sponsoring of coup is a legitimate way to protect your interest, like i said, there's no morality in geo-politics, u have to protect your strategic interest, but what is the long term outcome of your interest as it relates to the world , that is the unit of measure...
Which nation did USA attack after ww2? That is why u need to do ur research before coming out to speak, US wars after ww2 were interventions to support different factions in the tussle for power...
For example US intervened to support south Vietnam, while the USSR and china supported North Vietnam, same thing in Korea...and all over the world...the US and USSR supported different factions in wars, this was to protect their interests and promote influence...
The US has made unilateral sanctions, in bid to protect its interest and promote its influence, any hegemonic power will do the same....for example, if Nigeria were to recognize Taiwan today, China will place sanctions on abuja, this is normal geo-politics...and as the world evolves, we will see new systems that will make the world a better place...for example, the rise of China is creating a multi -polar world order, US place as the sole hegemonic power is fast deteriorating....what will this shift mean for the world? On the positive side, i hope it brings more balance that the world desperately needs....
Supporting gay rights is supporting human rights according to the view of Washington, it is normal for hegemonic powers to push their influence on their subordinates, this enables soft power...and in return , soft power is very effective tool for power influence[/quote
..you know nothing Jon snow. Who attacked Iraq because of WMDs? Who destroyed Libya and made it worse? Who trained the head of alqaeeda? Dey play you hear. I know people like you. Hustle for your visa no worry. No need to reply you anymore.

Is book haram not a menance to our grothw in Nigeria now? So because it was not in USA's interest that Nigeria should be peaceful was why they refused to sell weapons to Jonathan right?

I hope you get the visa you're hustling for sha. Have a nice day.

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The point was after ww2.... Libyans rose up against Gaddafi and US intervened on the side of the rebels...use common sense when analysing geo-politics and leave ur emotions one side... understand the interest of different powers as u try have an overview.... there's no saint , there's no good or bad, there's no right or wrong, there is only strategic interest....
Understand what the interest of different powers are, this enables u to have a better overview of geo-politics....
U can hate the US for all u want, the fact remains is simple, US has had a great impact on humanity that could only be rivaled by the European powers at their height ..
Morality and emotions are useless when analysing geo-politics,
Understand issues before you talk, so u don't get yourself embarrassed,
You have a long way to go , keep learning, all the best

Minsk24:

The point was after ww2.... Libyans rose up against Gaddafi and US intervened on the side of the rebels...use common sense when analysing geo-politics and leave ur emotions one side... understand the interest of different powers as u try have an overview.... there's no saint , there's no good or bad, there's no right or wrong, there is only strategic interest....
Understand what the interest of different powers are, this enables u to have a better overview of geo-politics....
U can hate the US for all u want, the fact remains is simple, US has had a great impact on humanity that could only be rivaled by the European powers at their height ..
Morality and emotions are useless when analysing geo-politics,
Understand issues before you talk, so u don't get yourself embarrassed,
You have a long way to go , keep learning, all the best

Naso America the world police world police isonu.

Dandal:
The situation is clear. Israel arrogantly set for itself an impossible tasks right from the beginning. It has failed and it is now in the process of withdrawing from Gaza. The invasion was bound to fail from the get go. It has not achieved its intended strategic objectives in the invasion.

Hamas remains strong, no Israeli hostages have been freed, rather it killed its own hostages, and casualties on the Israeli side are increasing. The continuous rocket attacks from Hamas persist, and Israel has lost global support, facing heightened animosity. Currently, Israel is actively seeking a solution out of the bottomless pit it digs for itself in Gaza. There is no military solution for the situation in that region, Israel's adversary have become stronger and have the ability to fight back. It is time Israel get off its high horse and embrace a political solution to the Palestinian question.

IDF are now paper tiger,Golani units era is over

Jovi10:




I guess you have not been following the war since February when it started. As for Yemen, USA helped in bombing Yemen, they even fired over 400 missiles. I no get strength to argue. Do your research.

una go just dey blow lie

Minsk24:

Lol, are u just hating US without realizing the root cause of crises that led to US intervention....the US led global order has brought stability.. while the US has not been perfect, they have done well and we can only hope to see improvements in global order, this may be from multi -polar system with the rise of China, or strengthening and reforming the UN....

that dude hates USA.......give him visa now and see how ff00lish he is

TNORWAY:
una go just dey blow lie

Just a simple research will cure you of this ignorance. Smh

Jovi10:



Just a simple research will cure you of this ignorance. Smh

you bloody jihadistz

TNORWAY:
you bloody jihadistz

Religiously I'm a Christian.
Tribaly I'm a Yoruba.
Politically i'm obidient.

So if you have any thing sensible to say aside playing the religious or tribal card or any of the above listed, say it to counter my claims or kindly sit your dumb ass down and learn.

TNORWAY:
you bloody jihadistz

This idea that anybody supporting Palestine is a jihadist is very dumb....

Jovi10:



Religiously I'm a Christian.
Tribaly I'm a Yoruba.
Politically i'm obidient.

So if you have any thing sensible to say aside playing the religious or tribal card or any of the above listed, say it to counter my claims or kindly sit your dumb ass down and learn.

in war, no emotions.forget about Geneva.

Let those that can fight a war fight it.