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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by mikeapollo: 11:17am On Jan 11
gidgiddy:


I'm not a big fan of BBC myself, but this is not about BBC or the maker of the documentary. This is about if the accusations by the women are fact or fiction

Three British white women, one Zimbabwean, a South African, a Philipino, an American and a Nigerian, all of whom once lived in TB Joshua's compound, gave graphic accounts of how TB Joshua sexually abused them

When 8 different women living across the world come together to accuse one man of sexual crimes, you have to step back and ask why?


It is either the women are telling the truth, or have been induced into lying. It becomes more intriguing when the daughter of the man being accused also comes out in the documentary to say that her father did what he was accused of. Not only her, but two boys who were his servants said the same.

You really believe that 8 women, two boys and TB Joshua's own daughter were all Induced to lie against the man?

Just refer to the questions that I asked. The answers would provide the solution to the missing link!
If someone is telling BBC that a man raped her, is BBC (and the sensible public) not supposed to ask which police station the rape was reported to?
Accusation of rape is a very serious issue. Which police station did they report the rape to? Is BBC more important than the police in rape matters? Why wait for years to report to the media (BCC), but you refuse to go to police station and report?
Or speaking with the BBC was meant to achieve a specific objective, which is to get back at SCOAN to destroy the reputation and legacy of the man!
Are we to believe every foolish story because it is aired by BBC?

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by bentenny(m): 11:20am On Jan 11
chccho:

U are a special one
Urs is unique with a big crown....olodo!
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by seunayantokun(m): 11:24am On Jan 11
MyVILLAGEpeople:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRApZomObUY?si=UqBSfokQMeav9bcR

Watch what his first disciple said. And the pictures of his biological daughters are there in the video
When you all exhaust your credit, the network operator will terminate your service.
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by seunayantokun(m): 11:25am On Jan 11
FirmTR:


You're here asking for proof, where is your own proof that the Great Prophet is guilty of these allegations?

I laugh.
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by lexy2014: 11:27am On Jan 11
Ginaz:


I saw a huge beast, the beast eyes had a reddish design and shape to it. then came TB joshua standing next to the beast and when he opened his eyes, it was exactly in shape and color design as the beast.

What's the essence of the dream?
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by lavylilly: 11:30am On Jan 11
Sermwell:

Dey play!! I have 2 of synagogue bank account.
UBA and First bank.
is it a crime to confirm or debunk rumors.
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by bentenny(m): 11:31am On Jan 11
mikeapollo:


Just refer to the questions that I asked. The answers would provide the solution to the missing link!
If someone is telling BBC that a man raped her, is BBC (and the sensible public) not supposed to ask which police station the rape was reported to?
Accusation of rape is a very serious issue. Which police station did they report the rape to? Is BBC more important than the police in rape matters? Why wait for years to report to the media (BCC), but you refuse to go to police station and report?
Or speaking with the BBC was meant to achieve a specific objective, which is to get back at SCOAN to destroy the reputation and legacy of the man!
Are we to believe every foolish story because it is aired by BBC?
Exactly!
This is why I said an independent investigation should be carried out to authenticate their claims!
I'm not and will never be a fan of TB Joshua doings but the right thing must be done!
Hopefully when the right questions are asked,the truth will surely come out!

I can't understand how those ladies from advanced countries with great judicial system didn't approach a police station there to report such rape case?

It's hard to believe but an independent investigation will beam it's searchlight on the church and the truth will be revealed!
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by cjfavour(m): 11:36am On Jan 11
That girl is not his real biological daughter and u know it. Keep on using the lie thinking it will turn to truth.
gidgiddy:


I'm not a big fan of BBC myself, but this is not about BBC or the maker of the documentary. This is about if the accusations by the women are fact or fiction

Three British white women, one Zimbabwean, a South African, a Philipino, an American and a Nigerian, all of whom once lived in TB Joshua's compound, gave graphic accounts of how TB Joshua sexually abused them

When 8 different women living across the world come together to accuse one man of sexual crimes, you have to step back and ask why?


It is either the women are telling the truth, or have been induced into lying. It becomes more intriguing when the daughter of the man being accused also comes out in the documentary to say that her father did what he was accused of. Not only her, but two boys who were his servants said the same.

You really believe that 8 women, two boys and TB Joshua's own daughter were all Induced to lie against the man?
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by mabea: 11:39am On Jan 11
mikeapollo:


What evil did the man do to you.
I have known since him too since 1997 and I can tell you, he was a man of God, and good to the people.
Did you come to your house and invite you to his church? There is no signboard of the church anywhere in Lagos
Did he force you to come to his church?
Did he speak against you and your religion or church?
Did he collect anything from you without paying back?
Do you need a sign board when you are always on TV and radio showing how you help the poor and displaying miracles? Do you know that many pastors give alms and help the needy and encourage others to do same without announcing it to the whole world in fact that's why you've not heard about them.

I found out by the Holy Spirit that the Emmanuel you hear them speak is actually pointing to him as the Emmanuel and that's the God with them. Isn't it weird when you hear such choruses repeatedly like in a cult.
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by cjfavour(m): 11:42am On Jan 11
If the case was reported to UK and US police and they couldn't do anything about it because d crime didn't happen within their jurisdiction, how manage they keep on giving him visas to their countries and why didn't they arrest him to answer for his crimes when he visited their countries?
Beverlyjean:


So u think he would not have gotten the info of the interview?? Y did he die the same week...and remember, he wasn't sick....infact the congregation said he preached that night and he went to his chamber and they were expecting him back to continue, but he never did


i.... alot had to do abortions, there was a clinic there ...he also had a child ( a girl) through adultery , and he hated her cos the women that got pregnant for him refused to terminate it

ii... none ran away with pregnancy cos they were manipulated ...he put fear in them...they all said they dint know he was doing to them same thing he was doing to other young women ... that was when they started building courage

iii... they had contacted the BBC b4 his death and he knew it... the British women said they reported to the police when they got to the UK...but the UK police said they cudnt do anything since it wasn't under their jurisdiction....

iv.... not everyone will talk... some are still scared...u think the doctors will come and admit a crime ....

v..... it happened over time in a clinic the church

vi... answered that on item 3... go back and check... u know Nigerian police is a no go area

vii...answered that on item 3

viii... foreign police can't really do anything unless Nigerian police are ready to cooperate cos those crime was committed in Nigeria

ix...how would they... did Osama, Escoba , sadam and others do same to their daughters ... don't think like a naive person

x.... Reverend King also had those that supported him after his crime
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by luminouz(m): 11:44am On Jan 11
gidgiddy:


Do you actually think that different women, living in different countries across the world, would come out to publicly lie that they were sexually molested? Dont you know that saying that follows you for life as someone sexually abused? What would be the motivation to do this? What do they have to gain?

If several people tell you that a particular person robbed them, would you hangout with that person
I won't give a fuq till I see evidence. You keep screaming 'people from different parts of the world' as if these women never stepped foot in synagogue in their lives. These were workers or disciples so they shared a common foundation. Do you know of the power tussle between TB Joshua's wife and the disciples after his death, for succession? That's another angle. I'm not saying he is guilty or not but I'm not emotional like you to believe people at face value or because they are women. You have idea how wicked people can be. Take Nigerian politics for example. It's possible to make people hate you just by media hunting. It's a tool for control. Wake up bro, wake up. Step off the matrix and actually use your brain instead of being controlled by religion and tribalism.
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by Judolisco(m): 11:44am On Jan 11
Khallicopyro:

Why wait till after his death before exposing him? Because he won't be here to defend himself
so because say abacha do die like dis make Nigeria forget him loot?
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by luminouz(m): 11:46am On Jan 11
lebron7:

You are an animal and a potential rapist
A wild animal
It's insulting that you used LeBron as you moniker. You dishonour him. You are emotional and temperamental. It's so easy to control you. Shame on you.
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by mikeapollo: 11:51am On Jan 11
mabea:
Do you need a sign board when you are always on TV and radio showing how you help the poor and displaying miracles? Do you know that many pastors give alms and help the needy and encourage others to do same without announcing it to the whole world in fact that's why you've not heard about them.

I found out by the Holy Spirit that the Emmanuel you hear them speak is actually pointing to him as the Emmanuel and that's the God with them. Isn't it weird when you hear such choruses repeatedly like in a cult.

You are deluded and totally confused.
Did TB Joshua force you or anyone to watch the miracles on his TV station?

Christians are encouraged to quote and recite every sentence or quotation in the Bible that inspires blessings from the scriptures. Emmanuel in the Bible means ''God with us''. It does not refer to TB Joshua. He never called himself Emmanuel. Any Christian any where in the world can recite it.
Any ''spirit'' that tells you to frown at the word ''Emmanuel'' is definitely a demonic one!
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by cjfavour(m): 11:56am On Jan 11
Leave him to God. It's only God that will judge him not u. Meanwhile a lot of people needs help now due to tinubuconomics, hope you're helping them mostly now TB joshua is not alive to help as he used to? Your own method of helping people is highly needed now.
mabea:
Do you need a sign board when you are always on TV and radio showing how you help the poor and displaying miracles? Do you know that many pastors give alms and help the needy and encourage others to do same without announcing it to the whole world in fact that's why you've not heard about them.

I found out by the Holy Spirit that the Emmanuel you hear them speak is actually pointing to him as the Emmanuel and that's the God with them. Isn't it weird when you hear such choruses repeatedly like in a cult.
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by chccho(m): 12:05pm On Jan 11
bentenny:

Urs is unique with a big crown....olodo!
Oponu
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by mikeapollo: 12:20pm On Jan 11
Beverlyjean:


So u think he would not have gotten the info of the interview?? Y did he die the same week...and remember, he wasn't sick....infact the congregation said he preached that night and he went to his chamber and they were expecting him back to continue, but he never did


i.... alot had to do abortions, there was a clinic there ... he also had a child ( a girl) through adultery , and he hated her cos the women that got pregnant for him refused to terminate it

ii... none ran away with pregnancy cos they were manipulated ...he put fear in them...they all said they dint know he was doing to them same thing he was doing to other young women ... that was when they started building courage

iii... they had contacted the BBC b4 his death and he knew it... the British women said they reported to the police when they got to the UK...but the UK police said they cudnt do anything since it wasn't under their jurisdiction....

iv.... not everyone will talk... some are still scared...u think the doctors will come and admit a crime ....

v..... it happened over time in a clinic the church

vi... answered that on item 3... go back and check... u know Nigerian police is a no go area

vii...answered that on item 3

viii... foreign police can't really do anything unless Nigerian police are ready to cooperate cos those crime was committed in Nigeria

ix...how would they... did Osama, Escoba , sadam and others do same to their daughters ... don't think like a naive person

x.... Reverend King also had those that supported him after his crime

You must be a very funny character to believe all these nonsense.

What are the names of the doctors/nurses that did the abortions and the dates? You cannot say abortion was done several times and refused to mention the actors and even dates

Even an ordinary average man that had an unwanted child outside wedlock could find a way to give the child away to some family members or orphanage (to take care of) if he does not want to have the child to live with him! Not to talk about a highly blessed man like TB Joshua.! How stupid can people be to believe all these foolish talk!

There is nothing like the UK police cannot do anything because the alleged crime (rape) did not happen under their jurisdiction. You tell that to the marines!
There is a global police network called the Interpol. Once a crime is committed and reported, the UK police would contact Interpol and Interpol would contact Nigeria Police for action. And Nigeria Police must cooperate, take action and investigate. Let them show us the record when they reported to the UK Police.
Stop using your pedestrian Nigerian mindset and ways of doing things to rub on other nations.

The BBC must have induced them with some financial or monetary gains for them to say these silly things. They must have been paid (or promised of possible payment) or relocation/residence in a foreign country somewhere else as asylum seekers.

But we all are not stupid to believe these lies!
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by Didijiji: 12:23pm On Jan 11
BnQoyyim:



Stop spiting hate speech from your stinking mouth.
Why are so partial in trying to uphold a side and castigate another.
Is BBC a religious-inclined media?
To be precise is it BBC a pro- Muslims media?
See yourself!
Now you know that the media could be carrying rumours when the breeze is not blowing to your one-sided mind.
shhhhhh

do i look like a synagogue member to you?

yhen yhen yhen
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by Everydaylove: 12:27pm On Jan 11
Is still your own opinion though. Media can be used to destroy a man at all cost. He was not perfect. He's dead. He cannot defend himself.
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by ItShallPass: 12:34pm On Jan 11
mikeapollo:


What are your ''fruits''?
List them here and let's compare with what we all know about the fruits of TB Joshua!
Even Lord Jesus said it that people would accuse and do worse things to any prophet that follows His foot steps! Go on and do as your master, Judas and the devil did of old!

You can rant for all I care. If you don't have spiritual discernment, you can be easily deceived. The first red flag of TB Joshua is his claim that he was born again from his mother's womb. Do yourself some favour and watch his activities from the 90s. You would get a little enlightened if you are a lover of truth.
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by gidgiddy: 12:39pm On Jan 11
luminouz:

I won't give a fuq till I see evidence. You keep screaming 'people from different parts of the world' as if these women never stepped foot in synagogue in their lives. These were workers or disciples so they shared a common foundation. Do you know of the power tussle between TB Joshua's wife and the disciples after his death, for succession? That's another angle. I'm not saying he is guilty or not but I'm not emotional like you to believe people at face value or because they are women. You have idea how wicked people can be. Take Nigerian politics for example. It's possible to make people hate you just by media hunting. It's a tool for control. Wake up bro, wake up. Step off the matrix and actually use your brain instead of being controlled by religion and tribalism.

What other evidence is more than eyewitness account? Watch the documentary, two boys who were TB Joshua's servants in his house said they severally witnessed the man sexually abuse women
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by gidgiddy: 12:41pm On Jan 11
mikeapollo:


Just refer to the questions that I asked. The answers would provide the solution to the missing link!
If someone is telling BBC that a man raped her, is BBC (and the sensible public) not supposed to ask which police station the rape was reported to?
Accusation of rape is a very serious issue. Which police station did they report the rape to? Is BBC more important than the police in rape matters? Why wait for years to report to the media (BCC), but you refuse to go to police station and report?
Or speaking with the BBC was meant to achieve a specific objective, which is to get back at SCOAN to destroy the reputation and legacy of the man!
Are we to believe every foolish story because it is aired by BBC?

Did you watch the part of the documentary where two boys who were servants in TB Joshua's house openly said they witnessed TB Joshua sexually abused women multiple times?
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by mikeapollo: 12:43pm On Jan 11
ItShallPass:


You can rant for all I care. If you don't have spiritual discernment, you can be easily deceived. The first red flag of TB Joshua is his claim that he was born again from his mother's womb. Do yourself some favour and watch his activities from the 90s. You would get a little enlightened if you are a lover of truth.

The Bible says God anointed Jeremiah from his mother's womb! To be born again also means you are anointed!
The Bible says before you were born, I knew you and chose you.

If that is your problem, then go and question the Bible!
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by cjfavour(m): 12:48pm On Jan 11
And the 2 boys reported to who? They witnessed a so called man of God sexually abusing women and they didn't report but kept on calling him a man of God even following him around and u want a right thinking person to believe that? I repeat this documentary must not end like that of Stephanie otobo and Suleiman.
gidgiddy:


What other evidence is more than eyewitness account? Watch the documentary, two boys who were TB Joshua's servants in his house said they severally witnessed the man sexually abuse women
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by mikeapollo: 12:51pm On Jan 11
gidgiddy:


Did you watch the part of the documentary where two boys who were servants in TB Joshua's house openly said they witnessed TB Joshua sexually abused women multiple times?

So TB Joshua invited the two boys inside the room, so they could witness the rape of the ladies, right?
And the victims (ladies) and their witnesses did not go report to Police, but waited for many years to report to BBC?

When you catch a person that committed an alleged crime (e.g. armed robber), do you report him to the police or you wait for many years and then report him to BBC or Channels TV?
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by ItShallPass: 12:56pm On Jan 11
mikeapollo:


The Bible says God anointed Jeremiah from his mother's womb! To be born again also means you are anointed!
The Bible says before you were born, I knew you and chose you.

If that is your problem, then go and question the Bible!


Incorrect Biblical interpretation.

You can't even differentiate between predestination and spiritual rebirth.

Read John 3 to understand what it means to be born again. I'm sure you hardly read your Bible, yet you want to engage in spiritual debates.

For your information, no one in the Old testament was ever born again. That's why they were under the Mosaic law and could only be justified by the works of their hands.

It was the Lord Jesus who brought the Born again experience. In John 3, the Lord Jesus explained the concept. It's impossible for anyone to be born again from the womb "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God."

Is this the type of heretic doctrine the Satanist TB Joshua taught you in that demonic synagogue?
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by luminouz(m): 1:10pm On Jan 11
gidgiddy:


What other evidence is more than eyewitness account? Watch the documentary, two boys who were TB Joshua's servants in his house said they severally witnessed the man sexually abuse women

So if I gather your brothers and give them a million naira each, you think they will stay true to you and not confirm that you are a serial rapist? Dave Chappelle was coerced into joining the 'Surviving R.Kelly' Saga and he told the producer of the documentary that he didn't even know R.Kelly personally. The producer went on and made it look like he refused to be interviewed and supported Kelly. Doesn't it seem strange to you that Al Jazeera was always posting news of men, women and children dying and always seem so supportive of the Palestinians? Who really benefits from that? Me? Bleep no. The world is a game. You and the others in the matrix are the pawns. The players? You don't even see them.

Think, think. You are not thinking. Eyewitnesses can be bought, it's called alibi, my nigga!!!

You are obviously still in your emotions because of how you feel about TB Joshua. I don't care about him, or you or the screaming entities on your thread. What I need are facts, logic and proofs. That's how you don't make mistakes in life crucifying innocent people.
Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by gidgiddy: 1:10pm On Jan 11
cjfavour:
And the 2 boys reported to who? They witnessed a so called man of God sexually abusing women and they didn't report but kept on calling him a man of God even following him around and u want a right thinking person to believe that? I repeat this documentary must not end like that of Stephanie otobo and Suleiman.

What did you expect the boys to do? To go and report their oga to the Police? A wealthy powerful man of God?

Everybody already knows what would have happened. Gullible people won't believe the boys, TB Joshua would call one his powerful friends to close the case, the sevearly dealt with the boys. May they could only talk now he is dead

However, when multiple people come foward to confirm that a certain individual was a serial sexual abuser, discount what they say at your peril

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by mikeapollo: 1:13pm On Jan 11
ItShallPass:



Incorrect Biblical interpretation.

You can't even differentiate between predestination and spiritual rebirth.

Read John 3 to understand what it means to be born again. I'm sure you hardly read your Bible, yet you want to engage in spiritual debates.

For your information, no one in the Old testament was ever born again. That's why they were under the Mosaic law and could only be justified by the works of their hands.

It was the Lord Jesus who brought the Born again experience. In John 3, the Lord Jesus explained the concept. It's impossible for anyone to be born again from the womb "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God."

Is this the type of heretic doctrine the Satanist TB Joshua taught you in that demonic synagogue?

''For your information, no one in the Old testament was ever born again''

This is how you bring your own demonic interpretation of the Bible!
To be ''born again'' means to be born of the spirit of God, so that we could inherit the kingdom of God, which is the ultimate. It also sometimes refers to the anointing of God that helps us break the yoke of carnality and connects us to spirituality.
Anyone that makes heaven or eternal life is also born again!
So tell me, if the prophets of old, Moses, Elijah etc (that appeared to Jesus on the prayer mountain) made heaven or not? And if they meet the ''born again'' standard or not!

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Re: My Take On The BBC Documentary On TB Joshua by gidgiddy: 1:18pm On Jan 11
luminouz:


So if I gather your brothers and give them a million naira each, you think they will stay true to you and not confirm that you are a serial rapist? Dave Chappelle was coerced into joining the 'Surviving R.Kelly' Saga and he told the producer of the documentary that he didn't even know R.Kelly personally. The producer went on and made it look like he refused to be interviewed and supported Kelly. Doesn't it seem strange to you that Al Jazeera was always posting news of men, women and children dying and always seem so supportive of the Palestinians? Who really benefits from that? Me? Bleep no. The world is a game. You and the others in the matrix are the pawns. The players? You don't even see them.

Think, think. You are not thinking. Eyewitnesses can be bought, it's called alibi, my nigga!!!

You are obviously still in your emotions because of how you feel about TB Joshua. I don't care about him, or you or the screaming entities on your thread. What I need are facts, logic and proofs. That's how you don't make mistakes in life crucifying innocent people.


In other words, 8 women were paid to lie that TB Joshua sexually abused them

Two of TB Joshua's former servants were paid to lie that he sexually abused women

His purported daughter was paid to lie that he sexually abused women

I still wonder why BBC would pay almost 13 people to come out make up stories that TB Joshua was sexual criminal. What could they possibly gain from that?

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