ItShallPass:
Absolutely correct.

The deception in Islam is just too much. Muslims would still deny this truth because they've been brainwashed. Their minds are already enslaved to the Islamic demons. They need a miracle to be delivered.

Israel isn't Allah's slave as depicted in that verse. That means, none of Israel's prophets or ancestors are Allah's slaves. The substantiated slaves of Allah according to that verse are the enemy nations of Israel, i.e the Philistines, Egyptians, Assyrians, Iranians, etc which are confirmed Muslim nations today except Assyria which is no longer in existence.

Allah was never the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Allah is an enemy of Israel and of the Lord Jesus. That's why his slaves too are enemies of Israel till this day.

TenQ:

The clutch of Islam on people's mind is spiritual. It blocks them from accepting the Truth even if they encounter it.

The Qur'an claim that

Qur'an 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.”

Unfortunately,
It is an attempt to legitimise Allah by claiming a Unification of the God of the Jews and the God of the Muslims

ItShallPass:


Allah just impersonated the God of Israel to make himself a god.

Muslims would falsely claim that Abraham, Moses and Even the Lord Jesus were all Muslims. Yet, none of them ever recited the Sahada, neither did they ever hear the name 'allah' throughout their lifetimes.

I read recently in the news that the Palestinians on Christmas days went and desecrated the tombs of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Rachael and Leah in Israel. Of great significance is the fact that all these people were buried in the cave of Macphela which Abraham bought as a burying place for himself and his family from the sons of Hemor. Ismael was not buried there. But Muslims would have us believe that Abraham spent his time with Ismael. They even claimed it was Ismael Abraham wanted to sacrifice at God's command and not Isaac. Both history and archeology disproves them. Mohammed was a curse to humanity. It's a pity how some people revel such a curse.

TenQ:

Islam as a religion is a counterfeit spinoff of a large portion of Judaism and Christianity, with Sabian Religion, Arabian Idolatory and some Eastern Religions.

The adherents think they serve the true Creator : unfortunately, they are wrong.

Their symbols of Moon and Star
Their use of the Rosary
Their circumnavigating the Kaaba
Their kissing of the Black stone
Their prophets other than Mohammed
The stories from the Scripture of the Jews and Christians
Their facing of the kaaba in prayers

Everything is bits and pieces of several religions and even myths of the ancients.


When you look at their Eschatology, you will observe that the principal Islamic actors are similar to the trinity of satan (the Beast, the False Prophet and the AntiChrist) as the Al-Mahdi, Isa and the Al-Dajjal. The Al-Mahdi (Beast), Isa (False Prophet) and the Dajjal (AntiChrist). Ultimately EVERYONE follows the Beast (aka satan) in Islamic eschatology!

ItShallPass:


Wow. That's really eye opening.

TenQ:

In the Light of Truth alone, it is impossible to defend Islam.

Now most Muslims are going against 90% of the Hadiths while others totally reject it.

Unfortunately, as much as they want to sanitise Islam, in the days of the internet it has become impossible.

It is true they say:
Without Lies, Islam Dies!

ItShallPass:


Don't mind them. The love the lies .

They'll pretend they didn't see this thread.

TenQ:

Of course!
They would pretend to be offline. Both the Arabic and English is very clear on Qur'an 17:8. There is no defence except if they are prepared to tell obvious lies.

The Qur'an alone is sufficient to destroy Islam!

ItShallPass:
Absolutely correct.

The deception in Islam is just too much. Muslims would still deny this truth because they've been brainwashed. Their minds are already enslaved to the Islamic demons. They need a miracle to be delivered.

Israel isn't Allah's slave as depicted in that verse. That means, none of Israel's prophets or ancestors are Allah's slaves. The substantiated slaves of Allah according to that verse are the enemy nations of Israel, i.e the Philistines, Egyptians, Assyrians, Iranians, etc which are confirmed Muslim nations today except Assyria which is no longer in existence.

Allah was never the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Allah is an enemy of Israel and of the Lord Jesus. That's why his slaves too are enemies of Israel till this day.

ItShallPass:


The bolded is very true. A good scrutiny of the book would expose all the lies of Islam.

FRANCISTOWN:

Okay! Make sense.

The same way Africans are not children to your imaginary YHWH and Jesus.

Your Almighty mythical YHWH said Isreal is his child and last I checked. You are not a descendant of Isreal.

TenQ:
If Qur'an 17:4-8 is the direct words of Allah and not of Mohammed, it is A scary proof that the God of the Jews is NOT Allah.

If the God of the Jews is not Allah, then Muslims have been thoroughly Decieved by the entity called Allah.

Qur'an 17:8
It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, but if ye repeat (the crime) We shall repeat (the punishment), and We have appointed hell a dungeon for the disbelievers.

It is obvious from the verse above that if Allah is the "WE", he cannot also be the "YOUR"!

Is it not easier, clearer and better for Allah to say:
Qur'an 17:8
It may be that WEyour Lord will have mercy on you, but if ye repeat (the crime) We shall repeat (the punishment), and We have appointed hell a dungeon for the disbelievers.


But this is obviously a Slip of Tongue from someone trying very hard to impersonate the God of Israel!

Questions :
1. Is it a problem to you if Allah is not the same as the God of the Jews referred to in verse 8?
2. Can you show any prophecy in the Scripture of the Jews (the Old Testament) where the God of Israel promised them that they would commit mischief Twice resulting in them been enslaved Twice?
3. From the Qur'an, are mushrikins also servants of Allah? In history, who were the two servants nations of Allah that punished the Jews?
4. Is it a slip of tongue that Allah used the phrase "Your Lord" rather than "Ourselves or We" as Allah is portrayed to speak?




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Qur'an 17:4-8
vs4 - And We decreed for the Children of Israel in the Scripture: Ye verily will work corruption in the earth twice, and ye will become great tyrants.
vs5 - When the first of the warnings came to pass, We sent against you Our slaves (servants) given to terrible warfare: They entered the very inmost parts of your homes; and it was a warning (completely) fulfilled.
vs6 - Then did We grant you the Return as against them: We gave you increase in resources and sons, and made you the more numerous in man-power.
vs7 - If ye did well, ye did well for yourselves; if ye did evil, (ye did it) against yourselves. So when the second of the warnings came to pass, (We permitted your enemies) to disfigure your faces, and to enter your Temple as they had entered it before, and to visit with destruction all that fell into their power.
vs8 - It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, but if ye repeat (the crime) We shall repeat (the punishment), and We have appointed hell a dungeon for the disbelievers.

Note:
1. The Enemies of Israel (vs7) are the slaves of Allah (vs 5)
2. The slaves of Allah are Muslims (vs 5)
3. Allah is not the Lord of the Jews (Children of Israel)

Antiislaam:


We won't see them to come and defend allah the god of Muhammad he inherited from his idolater father Abdullahi

TenQ:

Unfortunately, the Blindness is more spiritual than natural. This is why, the more you show them the truth the tighter they hold on to their deception.

Of course, you would have succeeded in showing them things to think about when they are ready for the truth

FRANCISTOWN:

Okay! Make sense.

The same way Africans are not children to your imaginary YHWH and Jesus.

Your Almighty mythical YHWH said Isreal is his child and last I checked. You are not a descendant of Isreal.

ItShallPass:


It may take many years but the Holy Spirit would open their eyes one day to the truths they've been refecting many years before.

TenQ:

And this is why it is important to to show them the Truth. The Holy Spirit will use it to convict them of the deception they have unknowingly put themselves

TenQ:


I have corrected Qur'an 17:8 for them: it is now exactly as Muslims would want us to believe



Qur'an 17:8
It may be that WE your Lord will have mercy on you, but if ye repeat (the crime) We shall repeat (the punishment), and We have appointed hell a dungeon for the disbelievers.



Is the above verse not easier, clearer and better for Allah to say!?


Please help me check the grammar o!

ItShallPass:


Honestly, their rejection is not their fault. They actually don't know what they're doing.

Antiislaam:


That's the way the allah ought to have put it but it's just a pity Muhammad didn't checked what the demons that visited him in cave gave to him

TenQ:

I agree with you: they do not know what they are doing. The same reason why they can think that killing, telling lies and destruction could be duties to God.

Indeed those of use who are saved are saved by Grace and we cannot boast about us finding God, but He found us.

We shall continue to send the truth to Muslims, perhaps some of them will adopt the truth and become free

ItShallPass:


Yes bro. No one ever knows he is blind until he meets Jesus. You'll be thinking you have the best religion on earth and doing the best things. It's all the work of grace for anyone, including nominal christians to finally accept Jesus.

God bless you for the good work you're doing.

TenQ:

One of the consoling facts Muslims hold on to is that they feel that they are sincerely serving "one God" the supposed creator of everything. They hope that on judgement day, God will look at their sincerity and their devotion to Islam to grant them paradise.

They forget that even in their religion, no body can earn paradise by good works.

Right now, they all block their ears : Their slogan seem to be

"Don't confuse me with the Truth for I've Already made up my mind"

ItShallPass:


Their religion supports the notion that nobody can earn paradise by good works? Do you think so?

TenQ:

Yes!

Earning paradise in Islam is only by the destiny of Allah as dead sinless babies born of Muslim parents may go to Hell fire!

Here was what Mohammed said about it!

Sahih muslim 2662 c
'A'isha, the mother of the believers, said that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was called to lead the funeral prayer of a child of the Ansar. I said:
Allah's Messenger, there is happiness for this child who is a bird from the birds of Paradise for it committed no sin nor has he reached the age when one can commit sin. He said: 'A'isha, per adventure, it may be otherwise, because God created for Paradise those who are fit for it while they were yet in their father's loins and created for hell those who are to go to hell. He created them for hell while they were yet in their father's loins.

They can't explain the rational why a baby should go to Hellfire


Sahih al-Bukhari 6467
Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do good deeds properly, sincerely and moderately, and receive good news because one's good deeds will not make him enter Paradise." They asked, "Even you, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)?" He said, Even I, unless and until Allah bestows His pardon and Mercy on me."


But all of them are struggling to earn paradise with good works

ItShallPass:


Lobatan.

Why are they deceiving themselves?

Ones good deeds does not guarantee him paradise, yet Allah provided no solution for them. What then would earn a Muslim paradise? I'll like to know. Just destiny of Allah?

The Bible also says one's good deeds cannot earn one paradise but Jesus was given as the sure guarantee for paradise. Muslims rejected Jesus because Allah, aka Satan asked them to do so. They instead embraced a counterfeit Jesus who did not give them any solution.

TenQ:
If Qur'an 17:4-8 is the direct words of Allah and not of Mohammed, it is A scary proof that the God of the Jews is NOT Allah.

If the God of the Jews is not Allah, then Muslims have been thoroughly Decieved by the entity called Allah.

Qur'an 17:8
It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, but if ye repeat (the crime) We shall repeat (the punishment), and We have appointed hell a dungeon for the disbelievers.

It is obvious from the verse above that if Allah is the "WE", he cannot also be the "YOUR"!

Is it not easier, clearer and better for Allah to say:
Qur'an 17:8
It may be that WE your Lord will have mercy on you, but if ye repeat (the crime) We shall repeat (the punishment), and We have appointed hell a dungeon for the disbelievers.

The above is a Perfect revision by a mortal man isn't it!?

But this Qur'an 17:8 is obviously a Slip of Tongue from someone trying very hard to impersonate the God of Israel!

Questions :
1. Is it a problem to you if Allah is not the same as the God of the Jews referred to in verse 8?
2. Can you show any prophecy in the Scripture of the Jews (the Old Testament) where the God of Israel promised them that they would commit mischief Twice resulting in them been enslaved Twice?
3. From the Qur'an, are mushrikins also servants of Allah? In history, who were the two servants nations of Allah that punished the Jews?
4. Is it a slip of tongue that Allah used the phrase "Your Lord" rather than "Ourselves or We" as Allah is portrayed to speak?




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Qur'an 17:4-8
vs4 - And We decreed for the Children of Israel in the Scripture: Ye verily will work corruption in the earth twice, and ye will become great tyrants.
vs5 - When the first of the warnings came to pass, We sent against you Our slaves (servants) given to terrible warfare: They entered the very inmost parts of your homes; and it was a warning (completely) fulfilled.
vs6 - Then did We grant you the Return as against them: We gave you increase in resources and sons, and made you the more numerous in man-power.
vs7 - If ye did well, ye did well for yourselves; if ye did evil, (ye did it) against yourselves. So when the second of the warnings came to pass, (We permitted your enemies) to disfigure your faces, and to enter your Temple as they had entered it before, and to visit with destruction all that fell into their power.
vs8 - It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, but if ye repeat (the crime) We shall repeat (the punishment), and We have appointed hell a dungeon for the disbelievers.

Note:
1. The Enemies of Israel (vs7) are the slaves of Allah (vs 5)
2. The slaves of Allah are Muslims (vs 5)
3. Allah is not the Lord of the Jews (Children of Israel)

TenQ:

Islam's Mohammed is the first major Antichrist. He replaces Christ in the lives of billions of people all over the world.

Muslims will not kill you if you insult Allah but blasphemy against Mohammed has no forgiveness in the sharia. The same Mohammed that cannot guarantee paradise for him myself is the one to intercede for all Muslims!?

Unfortunately, this lie has been swallowed by billions of people all over the world because we Christians refuse to evangelize.

We are reaping the fruit of our fathlessness and lazy Ness. The weed of Islam has overgrown our farm.

ItShallPass:


Hmm.

God bless you for the work you do.