Spy360:

If you didn't watch clips I can't help you because no matter what I say you won't understand.

Oga.... you're the one that should watch clips. How dare you call Fabregas a space controller or whatever? The same Fabregas o. You didn't even mention Ramsey or Rosicky to soften the 'capping'. Maybe you should sort opinion outside and see who need to watch clips.

mostob:
Oga.... you're the one that should watch clips. How dare you call Fabregas a space controller or whatever? The same Fabregas o. You didn't even mention Ramsey or Rosicky to soften the 'capping'. Maybe you should sort opinion outside and see who need to watch clips.

If Fabregas a dribbler? Off course not. He is more like a passer but he is also good in interpreting spaces when not with the ball. Go and watch Arsenal Vs Barcelona champions league when we beat them 2-1 at Emirates

Spy360:

Muller invented the word not necessarily the skill. Japa didn't start in 2021, even though the word was invented then to mean leaving the country. Tiki taka didn't start with Pep even though he made it popular.

Muller is an AM or SS. He used the word raumdeuter to explain his role in the team because people were wondering why he was roaming the pitch just as you are wondering why Kai is roaming the pitch.

Whether you want to call it interpreter or not, the idea is to control space.

Oga, he invented the word. Stop clutching at straws

Nobody was a Raumdeuter before him. And if you check it, there was no role like that before him. Stop forcing something just to find leeway for Havertz. No be by force na!!


Space interpreter is different from your so called space controller. Last season I always commend our players(especially Odegaard) for his half-space understanding and interpretation. Xhaka too. Nobody calls them Raumde.uters.

Hausa is right

Madrid and Bayern have both system and models that the younger ones have aplenty around them.


The old ones leave and by then the young ones have enough sense to replicate and even leave their mark in the trophy room as well.


This same Arteta killed that and we stood by him aspa 'he knows what he is doing'

He's a learner sha. There's a reason dem Laca and Xhaka weren't sold by emery. Another sha

Spy360:

If Fabregas a dribbler? Off course not. He is more like a passer but he is also good in interpreting spaces when not with the ball. Go and watch Arsenal Vs Barcelona champions league when we beat them 2-1 at Emirates

1. Do you even understand the meaning of interpreting space?

2. Are you really basing your space controller talk on a single match he played donkey years ago?

3. How does being a good dribbler correlate with space controller or whatever you're saying?

daveP:
Hausa is right

Madrid and Bayern have both system and models that the younger ones have aplenty around them.


The old ones leave and by then the young ones have enough sense to replicate and even leave their mark in the trophy room as well.


This same Arteta killed that and we stood by him aspa 'he knows what he is doing'

He's a learner sha. There's a reason dem Laca and Xhaka weren't sold by emery. Another sha

Omo... una like to force arguments o. These models, didn't they start from somewhere? What exactly qualifies Xhaka and Laca as models? Let's assume we didn't have injury issue last season and we went on to win the league, would you have brought up this models issue? So you want us to get stuck with underpar players because they're 'models'? Ok.

mostob:
Omo... una like to force arguments o. These models, didn't they start from somewhere? What exactly qualifies Xhaka and Laca as models? Let's assume we didn't have injury issue last season and we went on to win the league, would you have brought up this models issue? So you want us to get stuck with underpar players because they're 'models'? Ok.

You're still admitting his point. Where are they to look up to at emirates? Pls tell me the underpar models, and then also tell me the players that have REPLACED them and OUTPERFORMED then.


Oya!!

Jodera:


Oga, he invented the word. Stop clutching at straws

Nobody was a Raumdeuter before him. And if you check it, there was no role like that before him. Stop forcing something just to find leeway for Havertz. No be by force na!!


Space interpreter is different from your so called space controller. Last season I always commend our players(especially Odegaard) for his half-space understanding and interpretation. Xhaka too. Nobody calls them Raumde.uters.

You are right. He invented the word and not the skill. Guys have been interpreting space since the time of Pele

mostob:

1. Do you even understand the meaning of interpreting space?

2. Are you really basing your space controller talk on a single match he played donkey years ago?

3. How does being a good dribbler correlate with space controller or whatever you're saying?

1. Why don't you tell me.

2. No. It has always been his way. Fabregas is a passer plus space interpreter. Do you know that he played as a striker for Barcelona? The reason he was played there is because of that aspect of his talent that makes him a space reader.

3. You usually are one or the other. Mertesacker was not fast but he was an excellent game reader. Unlike Kiscielny who was fast. Wenger combined both. So a good coach looks for both space readers, dribblers, speedsters and passers and combine them in his team. Every player is usually at least one of the four. Some players even evolve during the later end of their careers. A good example is Jay Jay, who was a dribbler but later became a passer (at Bolton) and only dribbled to entertain fans when game was over.

Wenger was playing youth and fans complained that he was jeopardizing title chance for training kids. We lost many FA cup and league cup opportunities and they joined rivals to call us trophyless.

How time flies...

Spy360:
Wenger was playing youth and fans complained that he was jeopardizing title chance for training kids. We lost many FA cup and league cup opportunities and they joined rivals to call us trophyless.

How time flies...

Don’t intentionally choose to misconstrue positions. No one has asked for Arteta to rely on academy products.

I will reiterate that I will entertain an argument that he is refusing to develop and integrate any because he wants to win (which is ridiculous to be honest) but don’t tell me we don’t have prospects.

He is approaching his 5th year and we can not point to one player he has developed and integrated into the first team. I mean a conscious effort to develop the prospect like his predecessors did and other coaches in the EPL are doing. A coach that is entering his 5th year isn’t a rookie anymore.

Do you know Arteta is the 4th longest tenured coach with their current clubs in the EPL?

daveP:



You're still admitting his point. Where are they to look up to at emirates? Pls tell me the underpar models, and then also tell me the players that have REPLACED them and OUTPERFORMED then.


Oya!!

I don't subscribe to this model talk abeg. If you're good, you're good. Which model did Mbappe looked up to in his breakout year Monaco? Who are these models you want us to replace abeg?

mostob:
I don't subscribe to this model talk abeg. If you're good, you're good. Which model did Mbappe looked up to in his breakout year Monaco? Who are these models you want us to replace abeg?

U dey mind them? If Arsenal had won the league last season with Saka, Martinelli, Odegaard , Saliba and Nketiah being the keymen ; will anybody come here and be talking about one yeye model ?

Why did Emery that kept senior men like Auba , Lacazette , etc not win the league or even qualify for champions league ?

BlueRayDick:


U dey mind them? If Arsenal had won the league last season with Saka, Martinelli, Odegaard , Saliba and Nketiah being the keymen ; will anybody come here and be talking about one yeye model ?

Why did Emery that kept senior men like Auba , Lacazette , etc not win the league or even qualify for champions league ?

Thank you. Funny thing is Laca and Auba can't even qualify as models.

Tomiyasu not in Japan's squad. I thought he is fit already. He is neither on the pitch nor on the bench.

Roland17:


Don’t intentionally choose to misconstrue positions. No one has asked for Arteta to rely on academy products.

I will reiterate that I will entertain an argument that he is refusing to develop and integrate any because he wants to win (which is ridiculous to be honest) but don’t tell me we don’t have prospects.

He is approaching his 5th year and we can not point to one player he has developed and integrated into the first team. I mean a conscious effort to develop the prospect like his predecessors did and other coaches in the EPL are doing. A coach that is entering his 5th year isn’t a rookie anymore.

I am not arguing in favour of Arteta (I'd love to see academy players making it). All I am saying is that we complain a lot.

As for developing players, I can argue that Saka and Martinelli developed under Arteta. I agree he wasn't the one who gave them their breakthrough but he certainly will take the credit for their development.

Roland17:
Do you know Arteta is the 4th longest tenured coach with their current clubs in the EPL?

That means he is no longer rookie.

Arsenal U18s have won all of their last five matches. They’re also currently unbeaten in eight games in all competitions.

Following this great run, Jack Wilshere’s side now sit six points off top of the league, with a game in hand.

Jack Wilshere and the Arsenal youngsters have been smashing it recently. [ Now_Arsenal] #arsenalfanaticsnews

Jodera:
There was a reason I asked you that time how many open play headers have Saka actually scored when you were saying that Saka should leave corner kick duties and compete for headers.



As for Jota, he's is their killer!!.

Jota have been out since due to injury and he's just returning. Ask any Liverpool fan, Jota is always a firm favourite to always start when fit.

no truer words than that

Una still want osihmeh abi
🤣🤣🤣

iamoyindamola:
Una still want osihmeh abi

His missed chances aside, his injury record is why I don't really mention him here. And lately, he has added offside merchant to his CV.

mostob:
Tomiyasu not in Japan's squad. I thought he is fit already. He is neither on the pitch nor on the bench.

Takehiro Tomiyasu was excluded from the Japan squad which beat Vietnam 4-2 in their opening group stage game of the Asia Cup earlier today.

The good news for Arsenal is that it wasn’t due to injury.

The defender trained individually this week, away from the rest of the Japan squad. He only joined in with full training on Friday for the first time.

Tomiyasu still isn’t 100% match fit after just recovering from a calf injury, and that was the reason he was left out of today’s game.

Japan’s next game in the competition comes against Iraq on Friday with Tomiyasu expected to return to the squad.

This guy troubled Garnacho all through and played the entire field again. Like Tomiyasu. It is the consistency for me.

daveP:
This guy troubled Garnacho all through and played the entire field again. Like Tomiyasu. It is the consistency for me.

Both Tottenham's fullbacks are good ballers; Pedro Porro and Udogie.

The way Pedro Porro dey play freekicks and Cornerkicks enh, he looks like a more defensive minded Alexander-Arnold. Like he has all the attacking attributes of Alexander-Arnold and he's also good defensively.

BlueRayDick:


Both Tottenham's fullbacks are good ballers; Pedro Porro and Udogie.

The way Pedro Porro dey play freekicks and Cornerkicks enh, he looks like a more defensive minded Alexander-Arnold. Like he has all the attacking attributes of Alexander-Arnold and he's also good defensively.

Udogie na confirm player
I don't know why he chose Italy over naija, Italy get good LB ahead of him(Dimarco, Spinazzola)
Porro be like arnold jare,
He no fit hold him line but he's good attacking wise but he's a defender
I don't enjoy defender that don't know their primary duty just like zinny

BlueRayDick:


Both Tottenham's fullbacks are good ballers; Pedro Porro and Udogie.

The way Pedro Porro dey play freekicks and Cornerkicks enh, he looks like a more defensive minded Alexander-Arnold. Like he has all the attacking attributes of Alexander-Arnold and he's also good defensively.

I'm afraid these guys will make top 5 sha. But definitely not top 3. They've closed up that backline with pacy, energetic and technical guys. I hope we land a player like that for our LB spot. That Pedro ehn.... make i no bash who i wan bash😂😂😂

iamoyindamola:

Udogie na confirm player
I don't know why he chose Italy over naija, Italy get good LB ahead of him(Dimarco, Spinazzola)
Porro be like arnold jare,
He no fit hold him line but he's good attacking wise but he's a defender
I don't enjoy defender that don't know their primary duty just like zinny

Make we no lie or steal, this guy is way better than Zinny in defending. He also gat the pace. That's why i compared what he offers to Yasu. Only he's much younger. This guy gave Garnacho big problems all night.

iamoyindamola:

Udogie na confirm player
I don't know why he chose Italy over naija, Italy get good LB ahead of him(Dimarco, Spinazzola)
Porro be like arnold jare,
He no fit hold him line but he's good attacking wise but he's a defender
I don't enjoy defender that don't know their primary duty just like zinny

Udogie dey defend pass Zinchecko from what I've seen this season o. Udogie no dey gree even u beat him one-on-one. He's always coming back to disturb u. He dey always put that African power into marking too.

BlueRayDick:


Udogie dey defend pass Zinchecko from what I've seen this season o. Udogie no dey gree even u beat him one-on-one. He's always coming back to disturb u. He dey always put that African power into marking too.

I am talking of porro way rashford they bisect over and over

daveP:


I'm afraid these guys will make top 5 sha. But definitely not top 3. They've closed up that backline with pacy, energetic and technical guys. I hope we land a player like that for our LB spot. That Pedro ehn.... make i no bash who i wan bash😂😂😂

Tottenham may make top 5 sha, They may likely displace Aston Villa if they don't mess themselves up again.

That Pedro Porro ehn, we no get any RB that gives a balance of the performance he gives. Tomiyasu is solid defensively but definitely doesn't have that set piece ability of Pedro Porro.

Timber too is good, but I've not seen him play enough for us to judge him fairly

iamoyindamola:

I am talking of porro way rashford they bisect over and over

So because a player was dribbled in one match he automatically becomes a bad player? Good players too have their off days na.