izzou:


People register SIM cards with the faces of Children...

I mean Almajiri Children wey no get house.

So, imagine a ransom call was made from Sokoto/Gusau expressway, and then while tracking, the number is owned by a 6 year old girl in Ozubulu, Anambra.

As a policeman, will you waste your resources to Anambra, to find the girl?

These things are not easy. Nigerians have defeated the aim of NIN and all that.

GloriousGbola:


They are a bunch of lazy compromised good for nothing bastards

If you know where they are drop tear gas or all those disorienting gas used by anti terrorists

But as usual they have Nigerian support. There is a story that during the gej admin us forces arrived with plans to execute a rescue mission. They planned to drop gas that would put everyone to sleep. Next thing during their reconnaissance they saw pictures of militants in gas masks.

It is after all our super cop abba kyari who was acting as enforcer for area boys andbdrug dealers. You can be sure the police and military are doing the same. Right after jumat.

Itsrm:


El Rufai claims they(security agents) know where the kidnappers are. They even listen to their conversation

He said the security agents are always reluctant to attack them because they will use the hostages as human shield and its almost impossible to kill them without killing the people you aim to rescue.

He was of the opinion that they should be bombed alongside the victims so we get rid of them once and for all but there's only so much he can do.

GloriousGbola:


On the contrary, the nature of Nigeria and corruption from multiple quarters makes kidnapping low risk high return

One literally reads different stories where an entire village or community is providing support services for kidnappers.

Or of police and soldiers collecting their cut from people going to deliver the ransom.

There are multiple ways for motivated security agencies to catch these bastards

BlueRayDick:


If this is the case , then we need to rejig our security architecture . There needs to be collaboration between the security agencies and telecos.

I think telecos should do better , they should verify addresses used for registering SIM cards. Banks do this . I opened a bank account late last year and my bank held my funds because there was a slight error in the address I filled while filling the account opening form. I rectified the address and they verified the address before lifting PND on the account .

Security needs to be taken serious in this country , except the government want to use overlooking of security issues to reduce population of this country

BlueRayDick:


Elrufai will never support his kidnapped family member being bombed with kidnappers . Elrufai lost a child back then and I watched on TV how emotionally wrecked he looked when people paid him condolence visits .

All these extreme solutions are easy to proffer when u and ur loved ones are not involved .

We need to go to the root cause of kidnapping to be able to solve kidnapping challenge

OasisX:


.........West is respected and appreciated for welcoming Immigrants without Discrimination.

If the French Ronu Group succeeds and it escalates to other parts, bro we are looking at full scale revolution against Immigrants.

Ibime:


Bobb is a top player, and not quite academy. Many clubs have been hunting him from 12 years old. City signed him at 17 from Norway as well as a whole host of top youngsters over the last 3 to 5 years along with the likes of Lavia, Pedro Porro and many others

If your club was not offering competitive packages and spending on the best youngsters at that time, don't expect Arteta to magic up talent from nowhere. City Football group own 12 football clubs and various soccer centers so young players know they will get ample games in at least one of those clubs for their development, and they get lucrative offers for their age, world class training facilities and even a very good stadium for their youth team. City can also filter 1,000 youngsters through their various clubs and academies and present a ready made diamond to Pep that's been tested and proven. Most times they sell such quality youngsters to balance their books as a business strategy before even giving them a chance, that anyone they decide to keep, just know he is the business. It's Arteta vs a whole structure.

City have long flogged Manure hands down for talent in Manchester and NorthWest England because of this structure. Go and check out James McAtee at Sheffield Utd and Tommy Doyle at Wolves, these are City youngsters on loan there that can play for top 6 sides, and they are way down the pecking order to Oscar Bobb. City is low-key the Brighton of the big clubs, except they sell their academy talent at £10m-£20m just to tidy their books rather than give them chance like Brighton and run up their value to £50m+. See stadium their youth team play in, with a walkway to the main stadium, while Arsenal are still borrowing a decrepit Borehamwood, home stadium of a non league club as home ground for their youth and women. Arteta is just one man. The Saka and Martinelli we are seeing, na him give them chance, just like Nketiah, Smith-Rowe, Reiss Nelson, Joe Willock and even Odegaard to a lesser extent. He can't do pass his strength and support structure.

iamoyindamola:
Society of the snow

Blueraydick try the movie out, it's a true life story of a plane that crashed in1972 at Uruguay where the survivors are to survive on their own
It's on netflix

GloriousGbola:


They are a bunch of lazy compromised good for nothing bastards

If you know where they are drop tear gas or all those disorienting gas used by anti terrorists

But as usual they have Nigerian support. There is a story that during the gej admin us forces arrived with plans to execute a rescue mission. They planned to drop gas that would put everyone to sleep. Next thing during their reconnaissance they saw pictures of militants in gas masks.

It is after all our super cop abba kyari who was acting as enforcer for area boys andbdrug dealers. You can be sure the police and military are doing the same. Right after jumat.

BlueRayDick:


The solution is for the security agencies to up the ante and also for the government to make the country prosperous so that less people will find crime like kidnapping enticing .

Kidnapping is a crime that involves a whole lot of risk which people would not ordinarily not want to take .if the economic situation gets better , I believe less people would want to be be bandits/kidnappers

Security agents too need to do better . If person insult government officials our security agents will know how to track such person down , but kidnappers would be making calls with Nigerian SIM cards to their victim’s family and somehow they can’t track them down. 🤦‍♂️

GloriousGbola:


Commissioning ceremonies often come with peculiar optics / politics, especially projects that may never be 100% completed.

It is why we have terms like practical completion, first phase etc

As an example in 2002/3 adenuga wanted his building on adeola odeku commissioned on October 1 or Glo anniversary. I forget which. The building was not ready. But everyone ran around and ensured parts of the building were presentable for the ceremony. Sha don't look behind the curtain please. As people exit, workers moved back in.

Because the refinery is a multi product refinery, it may be another 6 months before it is producing petrol and another 6 months again before it is producing the other products. What is the hold point for commissioning?

Started operations? 100% operational?

On top of this dangote must have been under immense pressure from his creditors to start operations so the billion dollar debts can be serviced. Everyone was invested in the refinerys success or failure one way or another.

izzou:


How do you verify an address as a telco?

Banks can afford to verify anything, afterall, you are paying for it. You have to pay 11k in your account, for your business account documents to be verified. Also, Children cannot open accounts on their own, except through their parents

But for telcos, every umbrella on the street is registering SIM cards per hour. From kids to adults, all are eligible. There are also no supporting documents to verify anything when buying a SIM. Just NIN number, wey dem don dey run sef.

Omoh! That NIN stuff is like a failed project in terms of security

Emaprince:
This shit needs a loud speaker.

BlueRayDick:


U are making my point for me bro. Something has to give, the government needs to go tough; if it involves parents using their details to register for wards who are minor then so be it. We need to stop handling these things with kid gloves.

If it comes to FG mandating telecos to verify address of subscribers at a cost that will be later dedcucted from the subscriber's account balance, then so be it! Nothing is impossible. See the N50 stamp duty banks are dedcuting, whether u like it or not u must pay. Na auto debit.

If government can impose stuff like stamp duty on bank account holders and yearly proof of ownership fee on car owners just for the sake of driving government revenue, what stops government from imposing cost of verifying telecos subscribers address on subscribers just for their own safety?

izzou:


How do you verify an address as a telco?

Banks can afford to verify anything, afterall, you are paying for it. You have to pay 11k in your account, for your business account documents to be verified. Also, Children cannot open accounts on their own, except through their parents

But for telcos, every umbrella on the street is registering SIM cards per hour. From kids to adults, all are eligible. There are also no supporting documents to verify anything when buying a SIM. Just NIN number, wey dem don dey run sef.

Omoh! That NIN stuff is like a failed project in terms of security

GloriousGbola:


It is doable. The reason the telcos are not doing this is because they make money from all users properly or improperly registered without any penalties.

If the FG starts imposing fine for every improperly registered sim card on their networks, they will sit up immediately.

izzou:


People that recharge 100 naira is who you want to impose verification charge on?

Are you even aware that in the core villages, there is no address; No street or number...
Umuaku autonomous community, opposite Ichie Dike's compound. How is this address beneficial?

And lastly, you have been to the North. You know how many hours it takes within a state to move from point A to point B. How will Telcos fund that process?

Make dem spend 10k to verify house. Who go come pay the money?

GloriousGbola:


It is doable. The reason the telcos are not doing this is because they make money from all users properly or improperly registered without any penalties.

If the FG starts imposing fine for every improperly registered sim card on their networks, they will sit up immediately.

izzou:




We all know that, my brother.

If this was coming from Rivers now, this page for don full with "I told you so".

izzou:


It is actually easier to track down a Facebook or Twitter account, than a phone call from a Virgin line.

With 1000, i will register a Sim card, and pay an Almajiri child to pose as the owner, then use it to call someone and throw it away.

How person wan take track this kind thing?

Emaprince:
Wait, after each call, the sim is disposed?

Cos if not, the location of the caller can be tracked.

These people are not just ready to fight terrorism in this country.

izzou:
The first problem is the FG bastardising the NIN process.

Every Tom Dick and Harry can register you for NIN. That's the problem. Also, how come I can type any address to have an NIN? Why can't the FG verify that I truly live there, and I am a Nigerian?

The NIN process is why kidnapping cannot stop till tomorrow.

Let the Telcos breathe

BlueRayDick:


I read sometime ago that IMEI number can actually be used to track a call .

So ideally our security agents should still be able to track the location of kidnappers with phone IMEI number even if they register their lines with 6 year old alamajiri details

Amoto94:

IMEI too can be changed and it will lead to a dead when tracked. To nab the kidnappers you'll need to combine different methods like checking the metadata of the kidnappers via the routers on the mast used in receiving/initiating the call, triangulating the GPS location and boots on to gather enough Intel within the location.

BlueRayDick:


All of these can be gathered via Law enforcement closely liaising with telecos . No ?