burp18:
Was the amount worth the millions of innocent easterners that died in the civil war? I just hate the idea that there are a lot of innocent people who opposed the idea of the coup but they didn't have a choice.

Everything you said here would have been valid if Nigeria were working.

There's no single part of this country that is working and why is that?

burp18:
Was the amount worth the millions of innocent easterners that died in the civil war? I just hate the idea that there are a lot of innocent people who opposed the idea of the coup but they didn't have a choice.

The amount was definitely worth it for Nigeria.
Why do you think a country spent $130m people in war if it's not worth it?

You need us and that's why 😂

Workch:
everything I said in the original topic is the truth and that's why you are hurting.

Is Nigeria working? No
Is there a deliberate agenda to malign a certain tribe? Yes


Why can't you face the truth?

No one's maligning anyone. Stop trying to whip up sentiments to get pity. There are over 400 ethnic groups in Nigeria. You're no better than the rest

burp18:
No one's maligning anyone. Stop trying to whip up sentiments to get pity. There are over 400 ethnic groups in Nigeria. You're no better than the rest

There are 3 major tribes, one is too big to be maligned.

You can malign Nupe and they will keep shut, not igbos.
Have you seen the amount of propaganda against igbos, you just dished one with th Chinaza thing here.

And is Nigeria working? No.

A part of Nigeria left for Cameroon just years after the war, Nigeria did not fight to keep them, why? Where they not worth it?

Workch:
The amount was definitely worth it for Nigeria.
Why do you think a country spent $130m people in war if it's not worth it?

You need us and that's why 😂

See there's an angle to this that you don't see. Nigeria can spend billions of dollars on whatever the hell it wants and nobody would flinch. Nobody really cares no body is really patriotic. That's why we have all our politicians looting our monies and buying properties abroad. You're only hurt because your politicians are looting you dry and you're left out.😁

Workch:
There are 3 major tribes, one is too big to be maligned.

You can malign Nupe and they will keep shut, not igbos.
Have you seen the amount of propaganda against igbos, you just dished one with th Chinaza thing here.

And is Nigeria working? No.

A part of Nigeria left for Cameroon just years after the war, Nigeria did not fight to keep them, why? Where they not worth it?

Everyone's been calling the fulanis for the role they have played in the terrorism that's ravaged this country and no one has come out to support them. Chinaza am Igbo of eastern descent gts called out amd boom. You're all supporting him😆

burp18:
See there's an angle to this that you don't see. Nigeria can spend billions of dollars on whatever the hell it wants and nobody would flinch. Nobody really cares no body is really patriotic. That's why we have all our politicians looting our monies and buying properties abroad. You're only hurt because your politicians are looting you dry and you're left out.😁

it's because the house is divided, we cannot stand against the polticians because you will check the name and region of the person starting the movement and your polticians will play the tribal card.

It's not hard to grasp. Let an Igbo man today genuinely start a movement against Nigerian politicians today, I'm sure you will fall for the tribal card

burp18:
Everyone's been calling the fulanis for the role they have played in the terrorism that's ravaged this country and no one has come out to support them. Chinaza am Igbo of eastern descent gts called out amd boom. You're all supporting him😆

Should also call Yorubas for the role they play in ritual killing and skull mining?

No, that's wrong. Just today, I have seen 3 news of Yoruba people mining skulls. If we want the country to grow, we can't be doing that

Workch:
Should also call Yorubas for the role they play in ritual killing and skull mining?

No, that's wrong. Just today, I have seen 3 news of Yoruba people mining skulls. If we want the country to grow, we can't be doing that

The difference is I don't see prominent Yorubas coming out to support bad things. Your people on the other hand are all over twitter trying so hard to spin the narrative on how Chinaza is just the kingpin and not the mastermind. Stop supporting nonsense oga.

Workch:
it's because the house is divided, we cannot stand against the polticians because you will check the name and region of the person starting the movement and your polticians will play the tribal card.

It's not hard to grasp. Let an Igbo man today genuinely start a movement against Nigerian politicians today, I'm sure you will fall for the tribal card

I didn't voted in the last presidential election because all of the three candidates are all a bunch of failures. But if a man like Charles Soludo were in the race. He'd gladly have my vote. Man is very bright.

burp18:
The difference is I don't see prominent Yorubas coming out to support bad things. Your people on the other hand are all over twitter trying so hard to spin the narrative on how Chinaza is just the kingpin and not the mastermind. Stop supporting nonsense oga.

No difference is that the Yorubas media hides a lot of it and many Yorubas are so tribalistic that whenever they see an Igbo name associated to a crime, they will blow it out of proportion and make it tribal.

They form saint like their own tribesmen do not also commit crimes. That's the difference, that what we are fighting

Workch:
No difference is that the Yorubas media hides a lot of it and many Yorubas are so tribalistic that whenever they see an Igbo name associated to a crime, they will blow it out of proportion and make it tribal.

They form saint like their own tribesmen do not also commit crimes. That's the difference, that what we are fighting

Are you being sarcastic? Letsybe frank. We know who controls the media as it stands today. Even without a lot of resources at your disposal. We see how much you control the media. We saw it during the end sars period. We saw it prior the elections. It was so much that you could sell anything to an outside that wasn't living in Nigeria. I give it to you guys.🌚

burp18:
I didn't voted in the last presidential election because all of the three candidates are all a bunch of failures. But if a man like Charles Soludo were in the race. He'd gladly have my vote. Man is very bright.

I don't care whether you voted or not.
Voting Soludo now goes a long to tell me the type of person you are m, Soludo has been in Anambra for 3 years and has nothing to show for it. A sound human should not vote for Soludo who's failing in Anambra as we speak.

It's pontificates to the initial issues I raised that you will probably vote Soludo because he's not the igbos Choice or because you are not going to vote bum anyways but just looking for a excuse. We know all these gimmicks

burp18:
Are you being sarcastic? Letsybe frank. We know who controls the media as it stands today. Even without a lot of resources at your disposal. We see how much you control the media. We saw it during the end sars period. We saw it prior the elections. It was so much that you could sell anything to an outside that wasn't living in Nigeria. I give it to you guys.🌚

put up a news today about a crime committed by an Igbo person, you will see how your tribesmen will react to it. Including you.

You will react like Yorubas arw saints and they never commit any crime. You will keep stressing that Igbo part of the crime. It's part of the problem we have as a nation. Tribal bigotry

opera1:
It may not work for you but it will surely work for me and my family

Leaders were supposedly elected to serve this country but these ones have decided that they will only serve themselves and their immediate family, as a result, they completely neglected Thier responsibility to the nation, Allow things to go so bad because they don't have time for the country and they never cared.

Uncountable corruption cases with no convictions

Minimum wage under $23 monthly 🙊🙀

This is year 2024 no stable 24hr electricity with national grid collapsing every now and then

Parallel market existing for FX that allows banksters, retired and serving politicians, so-called entrepreneurs to crudely profiteer unpatriotically from at expense of the very nation they claim to love. Nothing like unified rate

Unchecked insecurity apparently left to linger for long for alleged pecuniary gains.

Lastly there is one very weird mentality among these lots, if the people they are leading are passing through hell it gives them pleasure. To them they are ruling well. But if the people life are improving and getting better, it means they are performing badly, it makes them feel weak.

Workch:
Nigeria is like a 3 flatmates living a 3 bedroom flat apartment.
Two of the flatmates are coniving against one to deny him access to the sitting room and the kitchen.
When the 3rd guy decided that he wants to leave, they locked the door and made sure that he stays and accept the status quo.

Yet these two expect that their flatmate is going to cooperate with them and then peace should reign.
How do you expect such a setting to work?
How do you expect the 3rd guy to cooperate with you, unless he's a coward? 😂

It's why Nigeria may never know peace. It's not a curse.
"A house divided against itself does not work"

As long as there's a delibrate approach to malign a major tribe in this country, Nigeria cannot work. You know why?
This will ensure that our energy will be chanelled towards the agenda and most of our actions will be made based on hate instead of reason and logic. This will ensure that we never get leadership right.

Half story
Incomplete and inaccurate
The other 2 flatmates are treating the third guy like that because his brothers killed the fathers of the other two and left their own father be. Then the first 2 also killed his father and a war ensued which the 3rd guy lost .
Guy you lost
Take whatever comes to you
You clearly can't take on the other two...at least not alone

Workch:
I don't care whether voted.
Voting Soludo now goes a long to tell me the type of person you are m, Soludo has been in Anambra for 3 years and has nothing to show for it. A sound human should not vote for Soludo who's failing in Anambra as we speak.

It's pontificates to the initial issues I raised that you will probably vote Soludo because he's not the igbos Choice or because you are not going to vote bum anyways but just looking for a excuse. We know all these gimmicks

I don't mean to deviate. But can you please explain what you mean by he's not the choice of the Igbos? You see what I mentioned about being divided amongst yourselves? Rochas was doing okay for himself but most Igbos hated him because he was with the opposition. Same with Rotimi Ameachi, And it goes on and on. The question is,, how has not liking these men helped you? Hope Uzodimma is governor for the second term today and you ask who are the biggest losers? It's laughable knowing the only reason most easterners don't support these men because they're in the ruling APC. A party formed by the hausas and yoruba you rever so mucv

Rolings:


Half story
Incomplete and inaccurate
The other 2 flatmates are treating the third guy like that because his brothers killed the fathers of the other two and left their own father be. Then the first 2 also killed his father and a war ensued which the 3rd guy lost .
Guy you lost
Take whatever comes to you
You clearly can't take on the other two...at least not alone

At the end of the day, there is still no peace in the house and everybody is suffering it.

Still boils dwn to why Nigeria cannot work. You see, we are both right

burp18:
I don't mean to deviate. But can you please explain what you mean by he's not the choice of the Igbos? You see what I mentioned about being divided amongst yourselves? Rochas was doing okay for himself but most Igbos hated him because he was with the opposition. Same with Rotimi Ameachi, And it goes on and on. The question is,, how has not liking these men helped you? Hope Uzodimma is governor for the second term today and you ask who are the biggest losers? It's laughable knowing the only reason most easterners don't support these men because they're in the ruling APC. A party formed by the hausas and yoruba you rever so mucv

I don't know what it means, that's how you people see it.

I'm saying that from your own perspective, you think Igbo has a choice.

Dude, if I take you to a shrink in Okija to swear, can you swear that Hope won the election free and fair, if you lie you will die? 😂

One thing I admire about Yoruba people generally is your ability to see white and try to convince everyone that it's black. It's extraordinary because you and I know that the electoral process is shit 😅😅

Workch:
put up a news today about a crime committed by an Igbo person, you will see how your tribesmen will react to it. Including you.

You will react like Yorubas arw saints and they never commit any crime. You will keep stressing that Igbo part of the crime. It's part of the problem we have as a nation. Tribal bigotry

Every region has it's fair share of problems. It's laughable when you talk about tribal bigotry. The Yorubas and hausas and the most accommodating kind of people in this country. Igbos on the other hand are very intolerant. It's the reason there aren't a lot of Muslims and mosques in the east. Heck you'd be seen as some outcast or weird person for accommodating or leasing g your property to a Muslim. I've been to at least 34 of 36 states in this country so I know what I'm saying.

Workch:
At the end of the day, there is still no peace in the house and everybody is suffering it.

Still boils dwn to why Nigeria cannot work. You see, we are both right

Nigeria can work. Maybe it not now . But it definitely can and will work because we are a people with will and drive. Every problem bedeviling this country is happening because most of these elements are not acting on their own.

burp18:
Every region has it's fair share of problems. It's laughable when you talk about tribal bigotry. The Yorubas and hausas and the most accommodating kind of people in this country. Igbos on the other hand are very intolerant. It's the reason there aren't a lot of Muslims and mosques in the east. Heck you'd be seen as some outcast or weird person for accommodating or leasing g your property to a Muslim. I've been to at least 34 of 36 states in this country so I know what I'm saying.

There's no evidence that the yorubas and hausa are more accommodating than Igbos. It's still the same media lies we have been talking about coming from you and other tribal bigots alike.

Theres no evidence that you have been to 34 of 36 states, I have seen a lot of tribal bigots lie here just to defend their bigotry and Igbophobia. You could be doing same

Now to test how smart you are, I will ask you a question, what do you think is the solution to the current Nigerian problem?

Let's stop feeding you with your usual tribal food

burp18:
Lol. You need to understand that it's impossible to split this country. The only possibility I see of dividing this country is you merged with the Yorubas, who you are so much because you don't share thesame views. Why am I saying? You couldn't even get the support of your direct SS neighbors. Even amongst the S/Easterners. You're all divided amongst yourselves. Dead that idea bro.. na suicide mission 😅 it's like walking straight into tr enemy's camp

Actually, the OP has been dragging you around on the ground from shomolu to mile 12, you are just repeating the ideas he laid out in his initial post. Your people will be ashamed of you bro.

Workch:
At the end of the day, there is still no peace in the house and everybody is suffering it.

Still boils dwn to why Nigeria cannot work. You see, we are both right

You wanted to make it look like the other two were unreasonable

But what is it always the third guy that always claim Nigeria will not work.
Just because he is not allowed to be president...it was him that started the whole thing in the first place by wanting to dominate the country totally by sponsoring it's young ones in the military to massacre leaders of other tribes .....at a time his tribesman was president. Senate president . Chief of army staff and foreign affairs minister......the tribe thinking they are superior to others started boasting of ruling over other tribes calling them weak.... Whenever it comes to election the other two recalling the massacre and the tribes past behavior....vote third guy out always and instead of him to be sober he still goes about beating his chest and claiming to develop places that were already developed even before he was born

Workch:
I don't know what it means, that's how you people see it.

I'm saying that from your own perspective, you think Igbo has a choice.

Dude, if I take you to a shrink in Okija to swear, can you swear that Hope won the election free and fair, if you lie you will die? 😂

One thing I admire about Yoruba people generally is your ability to see white and try to convince everyone that it's black. It's extraordinary because you and I know that the electoral process is shit 😅😅

Firstly, You ought to learn to stop creating perspective of what people are based on your interactions with them. I'm not yoruba .
Secondly, The question is not whether or not Hope won free and fair? Isn't it both to your advantage of you put your differences aside and work together of the better of the your people. Help me understand this

burp18:
Nigeria can work. Maybe it not now . But it definitely can and will work because we are a people with will and drive. Every problem bedeviling this country is happening because most of these elements are not acting on their own.

How can Nigeria work when we are not agreeing?

On what basis should we igbos agree with Yorubas and the hausas to make the country work?
Are you in anyways ready to make peace?

This country won't work as long as igbos are maligned, I know what I'm saying.

I'm genuinely asking this question, please don't be sentimental with your answer.

burp18:
Firstly, You ought to learn to stop creating perspective of what people are based on your interactions with them. I'm not yoruba .
Secondly, The question is not whether or not Hope won free and fair? Isn't it both to your advantage of you put your differences aside and work together of the better of the your people. Help me understand this

I don't also believe that you are not a yoruba. I maybe wrong but to be sincere, I have seen a lot of people lie about their tribes just to win a debate here. Especially Yorubas and igbos. People lie a lot here

That been said, I'm not interested in anything that is not genuine, I only need you to be sincere with yourself, you know within yourself that in a fair and fair election, it's mostly likely that Hope may not win. Whatever you say after that has derailed the aim of being sincere.

Workch:
There's no evidence that the yorubas and hausa are more accommodating than Igbos. It's still the same media lies we have been talking about coming from you and other tribal bigots alike.

Theres no evidence that you have been to 34 of 36 states, I have seen a lot of tribal bigots lie here just to defend their bigotry and Igbophobia. You could be doing same

Now to test how smart you are, I will ask you a question, what do you think is the solution to the current Nigerian problem?

Let's stop feeding you with your usual tribal food

Nigerian has a multitude of problems ranging from insecurity, poverty, unemployment et all, Be specific.

And I reiterate what I said about northerners and yorubas being more accommodating. Heck I travelled to some far away village in Adamawa last year. It's a typical bush. As in trenches 😁 And there's this Igbo guy I met who owns a pharmacy there. We got along so well😁

Workch:
How can Nigeria work when we are not agreeing?

On what basis should we igbos agree with Yorubas and the hausas to make the country work?
Are you in anyways ready to make peace?

This country won't work as long as igbos are maligned, I know what I'm saying.

I'm genuinely asking this question, please don't be sentimental with your answer.

No one's maligning anyone. I think the problem is sometimes you people can't hide your hatred and bigotry for other tribes and it gets in the way of everything you do.

burp18:
Nigerian has a multitude of problems ranging from insecurity, poverty, unemployment et all, Be specific.

And I reiterate what I said about northerners and yorubas being more accommodating. Heck I travelled to some far away village in Adamawa last year. It's a typical bush. As in trenches 😁 And there's this Igbo guy I met who owns a pharmacy there. We got along so well😁

I can't take your word for it. You have a history for tribal bigotry against Igbo people. It's in your history.
How do you expect me to take you word for it when you have never been neutral? You see, I can't.


So how do we solve this problem now in your opinion?

Workch:
I don't also believe that you are not a yoruba. I maybe wrong but to be sincere, I have seen a lot of people lie about their tribes just to win a debate here. Especially Yorubas and igbos. People lie a lot here

That been said, I'm not interested in anything that is not genuine, I only need you to be sincere with yourself, you know within yourself that in a fair and fair election, it's mostly likely that Hope may not win. Whatever you say after that has derailed the aim of being sincere.

Lol. I'm from the middle belt. And where have there ever been free and fair elections in Nigeria 😅 Why do you think elections are declared inconclusive when they find its not going their way?

burp18:
No one's maligning anyone. I think the problem is sometimes you people can't hide your hatred and bigotry for other tribes and it gets in the way of everything you do.

Okay, so away frm that since we can never reach a consensus there.

How do we resolve this issue of stagnant Nigeria and disunity? Or do you want things to continue like this?