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Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kobojunkie: 4:21pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie:So, by head you imply that rather than both being partners in the agreement, one partner has to sit as authority over the other who sits as a subordinate in the marriage? I thought you said subordination has nothing to do with it but here you indicate that it is required. |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kimcutie: 4:22pm On Jan 25 |
Kobojunkie:I still maintain that for a woman to submit to her husband she will have to respect him and the submission isn't subordination |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kobojunkie: 4:24pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie:For a head to exist, there needs to be a subordinate — a being of lesser authority/power/say in the relationship. A subordinate is the one that submits to the one considered of higher authority. Marriages can exist as partnerships where both partners have an equal say in the affairs of the marriage. However, when you introduce a head into marriage, it ceases as a partnership and exists more as a master-slave union. |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kimcutie: 4:24pm On Jan 25 |
Kobojunkie:So according to you, there's nothing like a head in a marriage? |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kobojunkie: 4:25pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie:Finally, you admit that respect is not in fact what makes the woman submit but rather it is what the woman ought to do even as she submits. Now, we are opening up to the reality of things. |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kimcutie: 4:25pm On Jan 25 |
Kobojunkie:You are giving me a western definition of marriage which I won't fault cause over there women contribute their quota, compared to this side of the world. |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kobojunkie: 4:26pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie:There is absolutely nothing Western about any of what I have said so far since marriage as an agreement/partnership between a man and woman predates Western civilization, and yours too. |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kimcutie: 4:26pm On Jan 25 |
Kobojunkie:This is what I said from the beginning Respect - submission |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kimcutie: 4:29pm On Jan 25 |
Kobojunkie:Marriage is a partnership yes, in this part of the world, the husband is the head of the "partnership " or whoever contributes more financially It's expected of a wife to be submissive to her husband while he loves her, this has been my pov from the get go If you are a Bible believer, you would see it's saying the same thing |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kobojunkie: 4:30pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie:Rather, what you have been trying to get us to believe thus far is that Respect triggers the action called Submission— a causality. But now you seem to be saying instead that Respect has to come along with Submission — no causality exists between the two. |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kobojunkie: 4:33pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie:There is no "this part of the world" as far as marriage is concerned. Why? Because Marriage existed long before your ancestors came up with the idea which you claim applies to your part of the world. So, let's get aware of trying to assert culture as the only rule for all, anywhere, as far as marriage is concerned. Marriage is a contract between a man and a woman, and each couple has always had the right to decide for themselves as they both see fit. 2. Such expectations mean absolutely nothing as each couple decides for themselves how to model their partnership. |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kimcutie: 4:34pm On Jan 25 |
Kobojunkie:You want me to be going in circles respect comes before submission, whether it's along with it or before it doesn't matter |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kobojunkie: 4:37pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie:I am afraid that is all you trying to drag yourself around in circles since earlier you had clarified that it only looks like respect. And submission, along with that which looks like respect, are instead both expectations — one does not cause the other.
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Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kimcutie: 4:39pm On Jan 25 |
Kobojunkie:We on the same page, but what I want you to agree on, is that submission is important in a marriage, either from the man or the woman. For the most part, it's from the woman |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by drimzsmoke(m): 4:40pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie: Let me help you with your points. This is Aisha Yesufu, the only social media feminist I know of!!! All the men Aisha dated in her life, she asked them out. Even her husband, meaning she doesn't believe some roles are meant for men while some are meant for women, yet she believes her husband is the head of the family!!!
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Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kobojunkie: 4:41pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie:1. I will answer you if you will answer me this. Marriage is a partnership, a business of sorts. Is this submission you speak of equally important in business partnerships? 2. Why can't it be from the man? |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kimcutie: 4:48pm On Jan 25 |
Kobojunkie:1. Marriage is more than a partnership, it's a union that should last till death, you can't call it a business. And in businesses, submissiveness is equally important cause there you know this guy knows better than you, or does this better than you. 2. A man is seen as the head of the family not the woman. |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kimcutie: 4:49pm On Jan 25 |
drimzsmoke:Yes, a responsible woman knows the husband is the head of the family regardless of her own achievements and a responsible husband knows the wife is the pride of the family regardless of his achievements |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kobojunkie: 4:55pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie:1. Should last till death? So, because you wish for marriage to last till death, it is no longer to be seen as a partnership that it was always meant to be? So, because your business partner knows better than you in an area, you think it makes sense to go all in without asking questions, assessing the risks of the plan he comes to the table with, and doing all that is necessary to assure the business in case his the plan he brings to the table fails? 2. Why is a man seen as a head and not a woman? Because a woman cannot equally take care of the family even better than the man can? Because the man is smarter than the woman by having a dick? Because a man is more vastly emotionally, socially, and adversity intelligent than a woman? Why? |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by drimzsmoke(m): 4:56pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie: When I go visit anybody who is married, my friends or brother, I don't always get them shishi. The wives and kid(s) on the other hand, I go bearing them gift because I know it's a woman that still owns and runs the house. A man just want to be called the head to massage his ego, in reality, a real man knows he is not the head. It's complicated jare!!! |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kobojunkie: 4:57pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie:Regardless of her achievements, intelligence, etc., a woman should always demote herself to a level below the man because he is a man and she is a woman? So, it is all about putting up with or massaging the male ego rather than correcting it? |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kimcutie: 4:58pm On Jan 25 |
Kobojunkie:You were selective, so you could prove a point |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kobojunkie: 4:58pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie:Selective of? in what sense? |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kimcutie: 4:59pm On Jan 25 |
drimzsmoke:There's nothing like real man, that's a conditioning statement to keep you in check, have you heard of real woman before? |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kimcutie: 5:00pm On Jan 25 |
Kobojunkie:Didn't you see where I said a wife is the pride of the family regardless of the husband's achievement? |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kobojunkie: 5:03pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie:I am concerned about what you choose to think of a wife though. This conversation is geared towards understanding the facts, the particulars of submission, as practiced by some in marriage. |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kobojunkie: 5:05pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie:Wow. So you don't equally see how saying a woman is the pride of the family as a conditioning statement to keep women in check as well? |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kimcutie: 5:05pm On Jan 25 |
Kobojunkie:1. Marriage is a partnership. 2. You are allowed to question, assess risks etc but you do this with respect 3. A man is seen as the head of the family cause he's the protective one, he's the one that will ensure there is food on the table, he's the one that will ensure the kids go to school, he's the one that will ensure his wife needs are taken care of(talking about an ideal marriage) A man isn't all and all but where there should be a head, it's the man. In a case where the man isn't "manning up" such man can't claim to be the head of the family. |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by drimzsmoke(m): 5:06pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie: You want to start with me, I like argument more than food. You won't win |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kimcutie: 5:07pm On Jan 25 |
Kobojunkie:No it's not, it's like complimenting them, making them to do more . |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by Kimcutie: 5:08pm On Jan 25 |
drimzsmoke: The thing is I hate that word real man, it's often used to make you do something |
Re: Why Should A Woman Submit To Her Husband In This Era? by drimzsmoke(m): 5:09pm On Jan 25 |
Kimcutie: Okay, noted |
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