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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DystopianMuse(f): 9:14pm On Jan 28
Uleato, how are you. I just want to let you know am trying to work on your reccomendations. But it ain't easy. Cheers!
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DystopianMuse(f): 9:16pm On Jan 28
dey play. Nairaland king grin . Seun they are coming for your crown. Lol
Kingsnairaland:


Move on to the next door I don't have time for insult.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 9:18pm On Jan 28
Jovi10:



Louder so one fake prophet wey dey for back go hear.

European leaders are just too emotional, always dancing to the tunes of usa who doesn't care about them.

European nations are not allowed to buy Russian oil, but america that so much loves NATO members cannot sell her gas to them at a cheaper rate but sells double the price of that of Russia.

America says anyone who does business with Russia is funding the war but same USA buys lithium, sun flower oil etc from russia till today grin

Europeans are slaves to the USA obviously. Let them enjoy their slavery until their eyes open

One formal German journalist cum spy officer on his sick bed once told a journalist that the CIA has a "dirt" dossier on most leaders across the EU, which they used to force them to dance to their tone. Only a few are not victims. He also said that the CIA has a lot of the western MSM outlets key decision makers on their payroll, by using shadow third-party organizations and corporations to sponsor those news outlets to achieve their aim . With these, they're able to get out the narrative they wanted to the people. Don't you wonder how almost all the MSM outlets simply jump on and parrot similar narrative on highly sensational geopolitical and certain national issues? How they all follow and repeat the same line and narrative with similar pattern, urgency, and, underreporting when certain issues doesn't suit a designated narrative or are no longer needed?
Even Vladimir Putin was forced to admit sometime ago that the west and it's secret service knows how to "work" when it comes to controlling the narrative and public perception of key events.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 9:19pm On Jan 28
DystopianMuse:
mr itk soilders dies everywhere. At least they were attack in their base. Regular tuesday. But you dont talk about the terrorists that see dieing for a cause they know nothing about as matyrdom. Looking for an excuse to attack iran. Lol. Dont they deserved to be attacked alongside their evil proxies. Clown
😁😁😁😁😁🤣🤣

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 9:23pm On Jan 28
⚡We are ready to sacrifice Romania's membership in NATO in order to annex the territories of Ukraine, Romanian right-wing politician & leader of AUR party Claudiu Târziu says.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 9:31pm On Jan 28
It takes only the enlighten minds to decipher and state facts like these.
emmaodet:


They are always working in groups to suppress others.
When they want to attack a country, they come in group called NATO.
When they want to trade with you, they come in group also - EU market, America market etc
They will tell you your beans imported doesn't meet EU criteria instead of dealing with a single country you want to export to like Belgium in EU but when they want to fleece your market, they dear solely with you as a country like Nigeria and not African market requirement.
We want to form a single currency in west Africa as Eco instead of local currencies but France has been using the francophone countries to frustrate the process.
When you work as a group, you become stronger and formidable like a bunch of broom instead of a single strand of broom that can easily be broken.
If Africa union has it's own formidable force and states in her charter that an attack on one African country is an attack on all, Gaddafi wouldn't have been killed because it's easier to fight Libya alone than fighting the whole 54 countries with armies and weapons.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 9:34pm On Jan 28
WriiterNg:
⚡“Do not hope that once you take advantage of Russia’s weakness, you will receive dividends forever. The Russians always come for their money. And when they come, do not rely on the Jesuit agreements you signed that supposedly justify you. They are not worth the paper they are written on. Therefore, you should either play fairly with the Russians, or not play at all."

~ 🇩🇪 Otto von Bismarck
The Russians may persevere, but they never forget and forgive betrayal.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 9:58pm On Jan 28
WriiterNg:
⚡Texas Sen. Ted Cruz: "Come and take it"

This is how he responded to Biden, who is going to send troops to Texas to unblock the border with Mexico.

This border stuff will actually cost the Dems the presidency this year.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 10:00pm On Jan 28
Appleyard:


One formal German journalist cum spy officer on his sick bed once told a journalist that the CIA has a "dirt" dossier on most leaders across the EU, which they used to force them to dance to their tone. Only a few are not victims. He also said that the CIA has a lot of the western MSM outlets key decision makers on their payroll, by using shadow third-party organizations and corporations to sponsor those news outlets to achieve their aim . With these, they're able to get out the narrative they wanted to the people. Don't you wonder how almost all the MSM outlets simply jump on and parrot similar narrative on highly sensational geopolitical and certain national issues? How they all follow and repeat the same line and narrative with similar pattern, urgency, and, underreporting when certain issues doesn't suit a designated narrative or are no longer needed?
Even Vladimir Putin was forced to admit sometime ago that the west and it's secret service knows how to "work" when it comes to controlling the narrative and public perception of key events.

You mind them? 🤣 Independent media indeed. They are all owned by the same people and report the exact thing. They were even caught ab few years back. Just see the amount of US news channels reporting the exact same news, word for word.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksb3KD6DfSI

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 10:02pm On Jan 28
An Israeli supporter mistakenly refers to Gaza genocide as a genocide.

In the short 38 seconds video, the lady mentioned the Holocaust and said "Do not use other genocides to describe this one." She only realized what she had done after others shouted "Ha!"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Dy7XJROp4
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Stoplying: 10:04pm On Jan 28
shoodboi2:


You mind them? 🤣 Independent media indeed. They are all owned by the same people and report the exact thing. They were even caught ab few years back. Just see the amount of US news channels reporting the exact same news, word for word.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksb3KD6DfSI
The first guys to discover this aspect about the media probably thought they were losing their minds. I remember 15 years ago, when I was the only person in my group of students who knew western media were just repeating the same script. My friends thought I were losing my senses.
I was labelled "conspiracy theorist" by one friend.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 10:07pm On Jan 28
Video shows Ukrainian soldiers getting killed by Russian drone. All soldiers in the one minute long video shot at the drone but couldn't hit it before getting liquidated.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3yZiN1d6x4

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:10pm On Jan 28
Ibime:


Mumu, democracy is the will of the majority. The leader of 10m people (Orban) cannot veto the will of the majority of nearly 500m people (EU), so suspending him is a move toward true democracy and the will of the majority

Keep water carrying for Islamophobes, brainless Putard and dumb muslim

So you agree that the US is not a true democracy? cool

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 10:16pm On Jan 28
Stoplying:

The first guys to discover this aspect about the media probably thought they were losing their minds. I remember 15 years ago, when I was the only person in my group of students who knew western media were just repeating the same script. My friends thought I were losing my senses.

These sorts of things are hard to explain because how do you tell people they're being scammed? It's just like MMM.

Back then, I warned those around me that MMM was a scam but they didn't believe because they couldn't understand how it could be a scam if they were making money off it.

The same way, how do you explain to people that a country like the US that claims to fight terrorists is actually the terrorist? Or that the US will kill its own citizen just to start a war? It sounds odd.

Funny enough, I too was on that side 13 years ago. I believed the US was the good guy in Iraq, Afghanistan, and even Libya and Syria, which were the hotspots in 2011. I remember my roommate back then in school telling me the US was a terrorist state and that the US founded and funded Al Qaeda.

I argued with him and denied it because I just couldn't comprehend it. I used to think the dude was being insane and unrealistic. At a point, I even though he was a religious fanatic.

Years later, between 2013 and 2015, I got a job that required me to do a lot of research. I found myself reading through CIA files, US government files, and interviews where US officials involved in those sorts of plots talked about it. The more I dug in to disprove the facts, the more they kept coming up, proving they were true.

At a point, I was like "Is this real?" because it was just so weird. I now know that what they have revealed is just a tiny fraction of that which they are hiding.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Stoplying: 10:18pm On Jan 28
Appleyard:


So you agree that the US is not a true democracy? cool

Why discuss with the guy, he doesn't understand the concept of democracy nor does he understand the EU.
1. Democracy is not the will of the majority but the power of all the people, by the people and for the people. It has nothing to do with voting, or majority. All groups are supposed to have their say in a democracy, irrespective of their demography. And the final result is supposed to be accepted by all groups not just the most numerous group.
2. The EU is not a democratic organisation, it is an economic union bounded by rules. Although giving each country the same weight as any other country in voting is actually a very democratic process. But the guy is a dumb Nigerian whose brain is still stuck on the Nigerian way where all that matters is demography: "democracy is a game of numbers"

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Stoplying: 10:25pm On Jan 28
I grew up as the biggest fan of the USA.
I still don't hate them, (I can't hate, I'm an intellectual, not a fighter), but I oppose all the propaganda. I love the truth.
The war against Iraq took place when I was a teenager, that opened my eyes about USA foreign policy. My dad still loves the USA and so do all my family members, I manage to not deny the truth and to have no hatred in my heart. The truth is important for intellectual reasons.
shoodboi2:


These sorts of things are hard to explain because how do you tell people they're being scammed? It's just like MMM.

Back then, I warned those around me that MMM was a scam but they didn't believe because they couldn't understand how it could be a scam if they were making money off it.

The same way, how do you explain to people that a country like the US that claims to fight terrorists is actually the terrorist? Or that the US will kill its own citizen just to start a war? It sounds odd.

Funny enough, I too was on that side 13 years ago. I believed the US was the good guy in Iraq, Afghanistan, and even Libya and Syria, which were the hotspots in 2011. I remember my roommate back then in school telling me the US was a terrorist state and that the US founded and funded Al Qaeda.

I argued with him and denied it because I just couldn't comprehend it. I used to think the dude was being insane and unrealistic. At a point, I even though he was a religious fanatic.

Years later, between 2013 and 2015, I got a job that required me to do a lot of research. I found myself reading through CIA files, US government files, and interviews where US officials involved in those sorts of plots talked about it. The more I dug in to disprove the facts, the more they kept coming up, proving they were true.

At a point, I was like "Is this real?" because it was just so weird. I now know that what they have revealed is just a tiny fraction of that which they are hiding.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 10:26pm On Jan 28
⚡Brussels threatens to hit Hungary’s economy if Viktor Orbán vetoes Ukraine aid, FT reports.

The EU will sabotage Hungary’s economy if Budapest blocks fresh aid to Ukraine at a summit this week, under a confidential plan drawn up by Brussels.

Brussels has outlined a strategy to explicitly target Hungary’s economic weaknesses, imperil its currency and drive a collapse in investor confidence in a bid to hurt “jobs and growth” if Budapest refuses to lift its veto against the aid to Kyiv.

Viktor Orbán, Hungary’s premier, has vowed to block the use of the EU budget to provide €50bn in financial aid to Ukraine at an emergency summit of leaders.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 10:27pm On Jan 28
Alliance wey dey threaten him own members.

That one na alliance? Tueeh!

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ibime(m): 10:30pm On Jan 28
Appleyard:


So you agree that the US is not a true democracy? cool

Would you Trumpanzees stand a chance if popular vote carries the day, not to mention if Washington DC is allowed to vote?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:32pm On Jan 28
WriiterNg:


🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡
He is confused.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Stoplying: 10:36pm On Jan 28
Appleyard:
He is confused.
On this one @writernig pasted a text which got it wrong.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 10:36pm On Jan 28
⚡The U.S. is currently drawing up retaliation options in response to the attack that killed three U.S. service members.

It is unclear how extensive or how soon a strike will occur.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Stoplying: 10:39pm On Jan 28
WritterNg:
⚡The U.S. is currently drawing up retaliation options in response to the attack that killed three U.S. service members.

It is unclear how extensive or how soon a strike will occur.
If USA escalates, then NATO will lose its "not-a-war" with Russia much sooner than expected and zelensky might be seeking asylum in Russia.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:42pm On Jan 28
shoodboi2:


You get am. To become the US president today, you either have to be from the Democratic or Republican party. There is no middle ground.

So, how is it a democracy when you only have two pre-selected options? Little wonder all US presidents are more or less the same thing, irrespective of their parties. They all start wars, topple democracies, and kill innocent women and children before turning around to cry wolf and paint themselves as the victim.

The worse part is that American voters don't even decide who between these two people becomes president.

- Americans voted for Al Gore in the 2000 election but George Bush was announced winner.
- Americans voted for Hilary Clinton in the 2016 election but Trump was announced the winner.

Why? Because the real voters are a small group of people called the Electoral College. They vote for the US president. And whoever their paymaster tells them to vote for wins, irrespective of what Americans vote for. Is that democracy or democraZy?

So many ignorant folks here don't even know that, although democracy is the government of the majority, a presidential candidate in America can win majority of the votes and still end up losing the election. That system is what some ediots here called democracy.

The EC system is a mockery of the electoral system in America. The system breeds segregation, cancels the will of the majority, and enshrine the age-long principle of white supremacy and inequality that has been the core of the American race, social, and political divide. The fact that America is the only country in the developed world that practice this aberration speaks volume.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Stoplying: 10:45pm On Jan 28
Appleyard:


So many ignorant folks here don't even know that, although democracy is the government of the majority, a presidential candidate in America can win majority of the votes and still end up losing the election. That system is what some ediots here called democracy.

The EC system is a mockery of the electoral system in America. The system breeds segregation, cancels the will of the majority, and enshrine the age-long principle of white supremacy and inequality that has been the core of the American race, social, and political divide. The fact that America is the only country in the developed world that practice this aberration speaks volume.
I believe you are wrong on this one.
Democracy is not "the will of the majority"
And if you tried to marginalise some groups for having a smaller demography then you would be more likely to face segregation.

Your system is more democratic if each group has the same weight in decision making irrespective of demography.

The American founding fathers understood this hundreds of years ago. And unsurprisingly, they remain the oldest democracy.

Switzerland has an other democratic system which is worth studying as well. You guys are too used to the Nigerian system which is the stupidest attempt at democracy which I know of.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:54pm On Jan 28
Ibime:


The voting process for the EU requires 100% consensus. 100% is not democracy, majority will is, so they are respecting democracy by kicking out that Putard Orban
If the voting system required 100 percent consensus, which all the member states agreed upon, then that is their ideal democracy. So, why trying to chased off one that refused to agree on one certain issue since each and every member also had the right to say no on certain issues? Must one day yes on or no all issues even if it runs against one's national interest? Isn't that undemocratic according to their own definition of democracy? cool

Trying to weave your way out of a glaring misnormal is tantamount to supporting Organ harvesters. grin

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:56pm On Jan 28
shoodboi2:


Using your logic, if 100% of voters vote for a person in an election, it's not a democracy since 100% is not a democracy? Let me ask you, if 100% not a majority, then what is a majority? 99? 90? Or is 99 now greater than 100?

And you're saying the EU follows a consensus model and not a democracy, does that mean the EU is not democratic all these years but decided to become democratic when Hungary refused to do what they want?

You can see you are confused and all over the place as usual. Sense won't kill you, Ibime. Sense won't kill you 🤣

He is running around in confusion circles. I can't believe he actually posted that rubbish. grin

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ibime(m): 10:56pm On Jan 28
Appleyard:

If the voting system required 100 percent consensus, which all the member states agreed upon, then that is their ideal democracy. So, why trying to chased off one that refused to agree on one certain issue since each and every member also had the right to say no on certain issues? Must one day yes on or no all issues even if it runs against one's national interest? Isn't that undemocratic according to their own definition of democracy? cool

Trying to weave your way out of a glaring misnormal is tantamount to supporting Organ harvesters. grin

Democracy can always be improved and they are trying to improve it since the 100% agreement doesn't reflect their overriding wishes. The process by which Orban will be silenced will also be within democratic framework
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Stoplying: 10:58pm On Jan 28
shoodboi2:


You get am. To become the US president today, you either have to be from the Democratic or Republican party. There is no middle ground.

So, how is it a democracy when you only have two pre-selected options? Little wonder all US presidents are more or less the same thing, irrespective of their parties. They all start wars, topple democracies, and kill innocent women and children before turning around to cry wolf and paint themselves as the victim.

The worse part is that American voters don't even decide who between these two people becomes president.

- Americans voted for Al Gore in the 2000 election but George Bush was announced winner.
- Americans voted for Hilary Clinton in the 2016 election but Trump was announced the winner.

Why? Because the real voters are a small group of people called the Electoral College. They vote for the US president. And whoever their paymaster tells them to vote for wins, irrespective of what Americans vote for. Is that democracy or democraZy?
I agree that the fact that only 2 parties get to chose the "real" candidates for the presidency makes the process of choosing the president undemocratic.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Stoplying: 10:59pm On Jan 28
Silencing a group for not voting how other groups want is undemocratic.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 11:26pm On Jan 28
WritterNg:
⚡Brussels threatens to hit Hungary’s economy if Viktor Orbán vetoes Ukraine aid, FT reports.

The EU will sabotage Hungary’s economy if Budapest blocks fresh aid to Ukraine at a summit this week, under a confidential plan drawn up by Brussels.

Brussels has outlined a strategy to explicitly target Hungary’s economic weaknesses, imperil its currency and drive a collapse in investor confidence in a bid to hurt “jobs and growth” if Budapest refuses to lift its veto against the aid to Kyiv.

Viktor Orbán, Hungary’s premier, has vowed to block the use of the EU budget to provide €50bn in financial aid to Ukraine at an emergency summit of leaders.

Voter bullying and intimidation 😂😂😂

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 11:38pm On Jan 28
WritterNg:
⚡We are ready to sacrifice Romania's membership in NATO in order to annex the territories of Ukraine, Romanian right-wing politician & leader of AUR party Claudiu Târziu says.
Now they're openly calling for the Balkanization of Ukraine, which has been one of the goals of those that are feeding this war.

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