izzou:
China no come play.

Since Africans can't think for themselves, help them think

150 Megawatt plant in exchange for unfettered access to your minerals

Elllllll-Hoeee-Elĺlllll

Ibime:


Nah, you'll be shocked that Abacha stealing may not even be triple of GEJ or OBJ

Senate of today alone will cancel Abachas stealing, leaving HOA and the other arms of Government to subsume far and above the military era

There is a reason I spoke about PTF doings with Buhari as Chairman. That was under Abacha Government. Money for projects been still plenty to go around after Abacha and his men took their cut

If care is not taken, an LGA Chairman of today can slap a military Governor of those days based on levels

Ibime:


Abacha stole much more than subsequent Presidents but other arms of Government did not

There were no Senators, HOA at State and National level to dip their hands in the pie; and Governors moved in fear of Abacha while LGA moved in fear of Governors who were military men

In Nigeria unfortunately, the more people in Government, the more stealing and overall our current system has stolen much more than Military, just not on Presidential level

nihilistjnr:


Bro, this is the breakdown of some of the abacha loot that has been recovered in subsequent administrations

According to Transparency International, below are the details of the recoveries made by successive governments after Abacha’s death in 1998.
Under General Abdulsalami Abubakar: $750 million
Under President Olusegun Obasanjo: $2 billion
Under President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua: $0
Under President Goodluck Jonathan: $227 million
Under President Muhammadu Buhari: $630 million

So far this is what they've recovered.

Only God knows what has not been recovered. That's why I used the example of Malabu Ltd that the Abachas used to corner oil block.

When you account for inflation as well, Ibime. Abacha was a hoover o.

nihilistjnr:


Bro, this is the breakdown of some of the abacha loot that has been recovered in subsequent administrations

According to Transparency International, below are the details of the recoveries made by successive governments after Abacha’s death in 1998.
Under General Abdulsalami Abubakar: $750 million
Under President Olusegun Obasanjo: $2 billion
Under President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua: $0
Under President Goodluck Jonathan: $227 million
Under President Muhammadu Buhari: $630 million

So far this is what they've recovered.

Only God knows what has not been recovered. That's why I used the example of Malabu Ltd that the Abachas used to corner oil block.

When you account for inflation as well, Ibime. Abacha was a hoover o.

liveLongNprospa:


Lmaooo this is barely 5billion dollars.
Lets assume he has like 10 billion dollars still hidden somewhere 😂.
Wooh e do

Realmrsean:
https://twitter.com/General_Somto/status/1751891504673542635?t=df2FKGos5OxmSu2XPCaCdA&s=19

Nigeria police the biggest kidnappers

BlueRayDick:


Olopa dey raid well well; once they drag u inside bus u must surely pay ransom to be released at the station. Funnily it is a system that has been normalized that even the DPO's are aware.

And na these same people you dey beg make dem increase their salary?

Ehn?

Realmrsean:
https://twitter.com/General_Somto/status/1751891504673542635?t=df2FKGos5OxmSu2XPCaCdA&s=19

Nigeria police the biggest kidnappers

izzou:


And na these same people you dey beg make dem increase their salary?

Ehn?

Itsrm:


Abba Kyari has been released?

Itsrm:


Abba Kyari has been released?

Incognito9:


I don't think so.

They're still holding him because they don't want to extradite him to the U.S., even though he was granted bail

Realmrsean:
he shock you ?

BlueRayDick:


I asked u the other time if u understood Time Value of money and how it works and also the effects of inflation on all these monies.

Do u think the over 2 billion dollars recovered by Obasanjo administration between 1999 to 2006 is the same value as its the ones recovered under Buhari and Jonathan's administration?

The kind money Abacha stole then, if any president stole it now the country will go bankrupt. How much cabals dey steal through subsidy before APC government voice out say dem no fit dey pay subsidy again?

izzou:


And na these same people you dey beg make dem increase their salary?

Ehn?

Itsrm:


I really doubt. Except Seun has access to privileged info that's not in public space

Incognito9:

I don't think so.
They're still holding him because they don't want to extradite him to the U.S., even though he was granted bail

BlueRayDick:


U just chose to misunderstand my point that day and I don already leave u to it.

My point is when they are grossly underpaid , we as a people do not have the moral ground to be expecting them not to resort to bribery , kidnapping and gun-for-hire duty as a means to supplement their income .

It is only when u treat them right and some of them still chose that corrupt path u can then effectively go all out to crush such bad eggs . Look at military guys who are better paid than police , even though they have bad eggs amongst them who abuse their office ; majority of them don’t set out to use their office to rob others .

My point was simple as that. Let government improve their welfare and then let the government go all out to deal with those who will continue in the old ways. That’s still a more workable suggestion than saying they should disband police force

BlueRayDick:


U just chose to misunderstand my point that day and I don already leave u to it.

My point is when they are grossly underpaid , we as a people do not have the moral ground to be expecting them not to resort to bribery , kidnapping and gun-for-hire duty as a means to supplement their income .

It is only when u treat them right and some of them still chose that corrupt path u can then effectively go all out to crush such bad eggs . Look at military guys who are better paid than police , even though they have bad eggs amongst them who abuse their office ; majority of them don’t set out to use their office to rob others .

My point was simple as that. Let government improve their welfare and then let the government go all out to deal with those who will continue in the old ways. That’s still a more workable suggestion than saying they should disband police force

GloriousGbola:



It is well paid soldiers who are renting their uniforms to bandits. It is well paid naval officers who are in bed with militants. It is well paid soldiers who are enforcers for anyone who will drop small money for them. Whether na yahoo boy or debt collector

BlueRayDick:




Where did u hear the gist that soldiers rent out uniforms to Bandits? That one na asodun o.
Do u know how many times customs have seized military outfits smuggled into the country in bulk? I have attached 2 different news links for u to see that it's actually people that import military uniforms u see those bandits wear.

https://www.thecable.ng/customs-seizes-n13bn-drugs-military-hardware-at-lagos-airport
https://punchng.com/customs-intercept-sack-of-military-uniforms-from-niger/

I agree some soldiers act as enforcers for yahoo boys but those are usually the young ones who are still very much in their youth exuberance stage who can't let go of their friends who are yahoo boys. Most of them do it mostly for the lifestyle, not necessarily because they are underpaid unlike their police counterparts that have turned to armed robbers

iamoyindamola:

You no get forgiven spirit aje

GloriousGbola:


In 2007 the guy clearing in my car was an air force guy. When we went to pick the car I met him in the barracks. Next thing he had changed into army fatigues. This was what he wore as we drove the car.

Rest assured if soldiers are lending/renting out their uniforms for escort, they are definitely doing same for bandits. I mean, we even see civilians caught in public in military uniforms. Where did they get the uniforms from?

BlueRayDick:


U just chose to misunderstand my point that day and I don already leave u to it.

My point is when they are grossly underpaid , we as a people do not have the moral ground to be expecting them not to resort to bribery , kidnapping and gun-for-hire duty as a means to supplement their income .

It is only when u treat them right and some of them still chose that corrupt path u can then effectively go all out to crush such bad eggs . Look at military guys who are better paid than police , even though they have bad eggs amongst them who abuse their office ; majority of them don’t set out to use their office to rob others .

My point was simple as that. Let government improve their welfare and then let the government go all out to deal with those who will continue in the old ways. That’s still a more workable suggestion than saying they should disband police force

Shebi I asked you how much should be added so that we can have the moral grounds to drag them

Someone is earning half of his annual salary in two weeks, but you feel if you increase his salary, he will most likely not indulge in corruption.

I was happy it was you who made that comment.

I was almost thinking i was the one meeting corrupt officers, while you were meeting the sincere ones that were begging for tips.

They should better create a new security outfit and increase their money, instead of adding 1 penny to the NPF. That is a more honest, and workable solution