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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by CatchMeIfUCanMO: 2:26pm On Feb 02
Fineman2:
It appears western leaders are gradually coming to their senses now.

They need to show Israel who is really the boss

Learn to read and understand!
Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by Idaytesj29(m): 2:30pm On Feb 02
smokinloud:

Seems you don't get the drift. Palestinians Arabs have never acted distinctly from the Arab nation. Hamas are carrying out what the Arabs unanimously wants and Israel security is not guaranteed when Palestine is governed separately. They need to be in confederation with Israel for Israel's security to be assured, at least for the next 100 years. The problem is not Hamas but what the Arabs unanimously want A middle east controlled by "Islam only". You need to understand the root of the conflict. There was no Hamas when the Arabs rejected the Peels commission that gave Arabs 3.5 percent of the land

No, this is not true. You risk a full blown genocide and civil war if you adamantly mixed two very unstable reactive chemicals called Israel and Palestine together. A sane diplomat knows that.

Secondly, Hamas will be removed. That's a fact.

And you can't put Israel in charge of Palestinians and you cant put Palestinians in charge of Israel. We already see the result of puting Isreal incharge of Palestine. Unless you want a retaliation or civil war, that's not visible.
Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by Pidaa: 2:33pm On Feb 02
Righteousness2:
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The Bible speaks of the destruction of all nations that come against Jerusalem in the book of Zechariah chapter 12!
The Bible very clearly specifies that destruction will come upon the nations that try to divide ISRAEL!


This is direct defiance of the Holy Scriptures going against the everlasting covenant between GOD and the Apple of HIS eyes, ISRAEL.

This would draw the Wrath and Judgement of GOD against Britain, the USA and every Nation involved in the Process.

Look up! Time is Up! It is RAPTURE count down
Stop misleading christain astray and supporting violence. The same bible said dey is neither Jews or Gentiles. Pls Christian we should not be lead astray

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by smokinloud(m): 2:41pm On Feb 02
Idaytesj29:


Your last sentence is wrong and stereotypic. Are Arabs not human beings? Why would they not want peace? The Dubai that many Nigerians go to now, is it not developed and owned by Arabs? How many wars have they fought? Please share educative information and not division or lies or stereotypes, many young people read what we write here , we should not misinform them.

To the matter of discussion, well at this point, they can take whatever they are offered for peace, the UN border between the two had been encroached on by Israel long before now and I don't think Israel will withdraw back with inthe legal UN borders. Israel is a very stubborn country under Netanyahu, unless America and Britain put a very strong foot down on the matter.
So, Palestinian lands has been taken already, so they will be happy to have Hamas leave and the whole Palestine cleaned up militarily but not to be done by Israel but by the UN and the security council members donated forces which comprises of US, UK,France,Russia and China. A two years operations max should get it done and troops kept there for another 8 years for at least two general elections to be held before combatant forces leaves and hopefully the region will remain peaceful henceforth.
You know nothing about the Middle-East. Tell U.S. to withdraw her over 5,000 military personnel from UAE and watch how the country will become stone age in 10 years. I'm not saying UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc are not peace loving counties though they know what is at stake if they are not well secured by the U.S. military base.You think the Islamic regime of Iran and major factions of Yemen military government are happy with the western life in UAE, Saudi, Qatar etc?!. Dey play
The problem with Palestinian Arabs is external forces not the civilians. Their ancestors are Egyptians, Lebanese, Saudis, Jordanians etc. So they are loyal to them to a fault. Hamas was only founded in 1987 and the conflict has been on centuries before then.
THE AGENDA IS "NO JEWISH AUTONOMY IN THE MIDDLE EAST" AND NOTHING ELSE. Jordan got her own portion of the historic Israel land in May 25, 1948 and no Arab is disturbing her. The Palestinian Arabs were even serving The king of Jordan then, at some point Jordan occupy the Westbank... Have you ever asked yourself why Palestinians are not fighting against Jordan to claim "their Palestine land" the answer is obvious. The Arabs don't have issue with muslim state. They only don't want the Jews in the Middle East.

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by AuthorMan: 2:44pm On Feb 02
Ewedegubbler:
lol

The big question is this, does the Palestine want their own state ?

No
They rather need violence.

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by IPDGP: 2:46pm On Feb 02
Fineman2:
It appears western leaders are gradually coming to their senses now.

They need to show Israel who is really the boss

Do you really understand what's written up there

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by ColonelMichael: 2:52pm On Feb 02
Fineman2:
it's a lie, US and UK have been shielding Israel for decades by blocking every UN resolution calling for the establishment of Palestinian state.

UK and USA created Israel, they are the cause of everything that is happening now, they should clean the mess they created

stop lying, it is britain and france mainly.
And how you twisted the news baffles me, oga no deal for anyone until Israel clears everything hamas, didn't Ben tell Biden the war will be long and slow.

you muslims should keep playing

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by ColonelMichael: 2:55pm On Feb 02
NextUK:
Neytayahu as overdone himself this time around with no where to hide. Isreali fan boy on NL I told you Isreal will regret the killing but you believed it will get away with killing over 25000 humans, let us even assume they were all terrorist in a single month n you think the world watching it on live TV will keep quiet

Let see how isreal will wriggle out of this one.



you are sounding somehow, are you sure you actually read or watch the news to see exactly what the world is all about.

you muslims will keep amusing yourselves.

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by Danisaint112(m): 2:55pm On Feb 02
Fash20:


You have little knowledge. Relax

About the Isrealis-Palestinian conflict or the Bible? Dey play.

cheesy I have educated and disgraced your likes a lot and don't have the time to do so anymore. So I will pass.

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by smokinloud(m): 2:56pm On Feb 02
Idaytesj29:


No, this is not true. You risk a full blown genocide and civil war if you adamantly mixed two very unstable reactive chemicals called Israel and Palestine together. A sane diplomat knows that.

Secondly, Hamas will be removed. That's a fact.

And you can't put Israel in charge of Palestinians and you cant put Palestinians in charge of Israel. We already see the result of puting Isreal incharge of Palestine. Unless you want a retaliation or civil war, that's not visible.
Again the problem with Palestinian is external forces. 2.1 million Arabs Palestinians are Israel citizens and they have political party, they vote in bloc. They are muslims and their political party have Islam ideology. They were around 500,000 in 1948 and now over 2.1 million and Israel is not commiting genocide against them. They were loyal to Israel in the 1948 Israel-Arab war and Israel has been loyal to them till date. One Arab judge sentence to jail, Israel prime minister.
Israel is not genocidal at all they're just struggling for their existence in the MiddleEsst ni.

THE ONLY FEASIBLE SOLUTION THAT'LL LAST FOR AT LEAST 100 YEARS,UNTIL THE POPULATION OF THE ARABS SURPASSES THAT OF THE JEWS, IS A CONFEDERATION WHERE ISRAEL WILL OVERSEE EVERY ACTIVITY OF ARABS PALESTINIANS. THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN SELF-GOVERNMENT BUT ISRAEL WILL OVERSEE THEIR MILITARY AFFAIR. THAT'S THE ONLY FEASIBLE SOLUTION. OTHER SOLUTION WILL LEAD TO ANOTHER ENDLESS WAR NI
Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by smokinloud(m): 3:00pm On Feb 02
NextUK:
Neytayahu as overdone himself this time around with no where to hide. Isreali fan boy on NL I told you Isreal will regret the killing but you believed it will get away with killing over 25000 humans, let us even assume they were all terrorist in a single month n you think the world watching it on live TV will keep quiet

Let see how isreal will wriggle out of this one.


YOU DEY KOLO. SAUDI ARABIA THAT'S KILLING ALMOST 1MILLION YEMENIS NKOR. WHAT HAVE THE ARAB WORLD DONE ABOUT IT?!. ABI WORLD WAR 2 WEY ALLIED FORCES KILL MILLIONS OF CIVILIANS WETIN DEM DO ABOUT HAM?!.
IN EVERY WAR PEOPLE MUST DIE AND THE WORLD MUST MOVE ON. AT LEAST ISRAEL IS NOT COMMITTING GENOCIDE

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by Entusky(m): 3:03pm On Feb 02
Moon worshippers are now happy

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by Papadok1: 3:07pm On Feb 02
This one that is always quoting useless and meaningless Bible verses on everything, shey na water dey inside your brain or na garri ??
Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by smokinloud(m): 3:09pm On Feb 02
Pidaa:

Stop misleading christain astray and supporting violence. The same bible said dey is neither Jews or Gentiles. Pls Christian we should not be lead astray
You didn't complete the statement. It says "in Christ" this is not a matter of faith in christ. It's a matter of God's covenant with Abraham
Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by Partisanlord: 3:13pm On Feb 02
Danisaint112:
Benjamin Netanyahu has told Hamas terrorists and their sympathizers that a "two state solution Is dead on arrival."

Any other thing they have going on is wishful thinking.

The people supporting this Palestinians shit are Muslims, Christians who didn't take up the challenge to read the Bible from Genesis to revelation to actually know if they are being lied to or not and agnostics+atheists.

Anybody that tells you he or she is a Christian and is supporting this army of philistines evil act is a big fraud.
Must You project your reality on everyone else undecided
Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by smokinloud(m): 3:19pm On Feb 02
Danisaint112:
Benjamin Netanyahu has told Hamas terrorists and their sympathizers that a "two state solution Is dead on arrival."

Any other thing they have going on is wishful thinking.

The people supporting this Palestinians shit are Muslims, Christians who didn't take up the challenge to read the Bible from Genesis to revelation to actually know if they are being lied to or not and agnostics+atheists.

Anybody that tells you he or she is a Christian and is supporting this army of philistines evil act is a big fraud.
The Philistines are not Palestinians. Palestinians are Egyptians, Saudis, Lebanese and other Arabs who came to hustle on the land when it was under Islam colonialism. The Philistine of the bible have good descendants today, they are the Greeks(Europeans) they came from Europe and went back to Europe. The Arabs just steal the name Palestine in 1963.

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by Danisaint112(m): 3:23pm On Feb 02
anonymous1759:


Abeg rest, Chris peaches love , some people will tell you the Bible is altered . but with Chris’s life on earth I’m certain we wouldn’t wish for killings like this . Christ said let there be peace you’re here using religion to drink blood . You guys should be ashamed .

Anything to settle the lasting killings is welcomed. There’s no difference between fanatic Muslim or Christians . All you fanatic Christians are just waiting for your Daddy GO to order you to kill and quote a scripture.

We are all thought religion or born into it but humanity is what should guide us , lowkey blood suckers like you use religion to cover face .

If no one has ever told you this before, I will tell now;
The worst thing you want to do is bring "Ignorant".

What did I say wrong that warrant you calling me a bloodsucker?

I don't support killing of innocent civilians but in war, casualty occurs. And the Isreali government is trying everything possible to minimize casualties compared to your Nigerian government that was killing Igbos and Niger Deltans children, women and old deliberately during the Civil war, Hunting for civilians from house to house, raping women including minors.

The very reason Nigeria will never grow until she makes restitution, apologize and maintain a level playing field.

Or let me ask, are you against eliminating terrorists like HAMAS? Oh i forgot, to you lots they are resistance fighters.

Oh Yes! Christ preaches love but never asked you to be stupid. Right to self defense is never a sin.

And just so you know I don't have a Daddy G.O neither am I a fanatical Christian and as I was born into it I made the commitment to read the Bible and research thoroughly to know wether or not I should join the bandwagon of atheists but came to discover that truly the universe ain't a mistake.

You should go read the Bible properly and when you do endeavor to focus on Psalms and Proverbs because you lack wisdom. Damn!

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by Damian911: 3:23pm On Feb 02
Ewedegubbler:
lol

The big question is this, does the Palestine want their own state ?
Your comment is funny
Why won't they?
They'd grab it with both hands,legs and even chest+thigh. They'd clutch on it
Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by Damian911: 3:25pm On Feb 02
RichDad1:
David Cameron is desperately looking for acceptance in very possible ways for his ambitious return as the UK PM.
The game is not for the novice. If you know, you know. 😉
Great observer spotted

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by Danisaint112(m): 3:26pm On Feb 02
smokinloud:

The Philistines are not Palestinians. Palestinians are Egyptians, Saudis, Lebanese and other Arabs who came to hustle on the land when it was under Islam colonialism. The Philistine of the bible have good descendants today, they are the Greeks(Europeans) they came from Europe and went back to Europe. The Arabs just steal the name Palestine in 1963.

Thanks for the heads up but I'm very much aware. I used Philistines just as you would use Egyptians in a context. wink

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by smokinloud(m): 3:35pm On Feb 02
Damian911:
Your comment is funny
Why won't they?
They'd grab it with both hands,legs and even chest+thigh. They'd clutch on it
They don't want a state with Jews as their neighbors. That's the meaning of "from the river to the sea" the Jews skull should be thrown in the sea. So they don't want their own state as long as they don't want to live with a community that's been on the land for 6000 years when they themselves migrated to to the land not longer than 500 years ago.

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by dangermouse(m): 3:38pm On Feb 02
Ewedegubbler:
lol

The big question is this, does the Palestine want their own state ?
Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by dangermouse(m): 3:39pm On Feb 02
Ewedegubbler:
lol

The big question is this, does the Palestine want their own state ?

They rather want the annihilation of Israel.

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by Idaytesj29(m): 3:49pm On Feb 02
smokinloud:

Again the problem with Palestinian is external forces. 2.1 million Arabs Palestinians are Israel citizens and they have political party, they vote in bloc. They are muslims and their political party have Islam ideology. They were around 500,000 in 1948 and now over 2.1 million and Israel is not commiting genocide against them. They were loyal to Israel in the 1948 Israel-Arab war and Israel has been loyal to them till date. One Arab judge sentence to jail, Israel prime minister.
Israel is not genocidal at all they're just struggling for their existence in the MiddleEsst ni.

THE ONLY FEASIBLE SOLUTION THAT'LL LAST FOR AT LEAST 100 YEARS,UNTIL THE POPULATION OF THE ARABS SURPASSES THAT OF THE JEWS, IS A CONFEDERATION WHERE ISRAEL WILL OVERSEE EVERY ACTIVITY OF ARABS PALESTINIANS. THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN SELF-GOVERNMENT BUT ISRAEL WILL OVERSEE THEIR MILITARY AFFAIR. THAT'S THE ONLY FEASIBLE SOLUTION. OTHER SOLUTION WILL LEAD TO ANOTHER ENDLESS WAR NI

Thank God UK, US and UN will not add you to the peace process, otherwise no meaningful development will be achieved. It will be all talks and no action or result. Peace 🕊️✌️
Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by Idaytesj29(m): 3:50pm On Feb 02
smokinloud:

You know nothing about the Middle-East. Tell U.S. to withdraw her over 5,000 military personnel from UAE and watch how the country will become stone age in 10 years. I'm not saying UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc are not peace loving counties though they know what is at stake if they are not well secured by the U.S. military base.You think the Islamic regime of Iran and major factions of Yemen military government are happy with the western life in UAE, Saudi, Qatar etc?!. Dey play
The problem with Palestinian Arabs is external forces not the civilians. Their ancestors are Egyptians, Lebanese, Saudis, Jordanians etc. So they are loyal to them to a fault. Hamas was only founded in 1987 and the conflict has been on centuries before then.
THE AGENDA IS "NO JEWISH AUTONOMY IN THE MIDDLE EAST" AND NOTHING ELSE. Jordan got her own portion of the historic Israel land in May 25, 1948 and no Arab is disturbing her. The Palestinian Arabs were even serving The king of Jordan then, at some point Jordan occupy the Westbank... Have you ever asked yourself why Palestinians are not fighting against Jordan to claim "their Palestine land" the answer is obvious. The Arabs don't have issue with muslim state. They only don't want the Jews in the Middle East.

I agree with you, it's okay. Lol 😂😆
Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by smokinloud(m): 3:52pm On Feb 02
Idaytesj29:


Thank God UK, US and UN will not add you to the peace process, otherwise no meaningful development will be achieved. It will be all talks and no action or result. Peace 🕊️✌️
Aljazeera is deceiving you. The only criterion for peace talk for the Western world is Palestine subjection. You still dey play

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by oluwaahmed: 3:52pm On Feb 02
Fineman2:
it's a lie, US and UK have been shielding Israel for decades by blocking every UN resolution calling for the establishment of Palestinian state.

UK and USA created Israel, they are the cause of everything that is happening now, they should clean the mess they created
Again both of you are uneducated about the conflict or just plain liars. Israel has been offering the Palestinian state a two state solution since the 1970s. Even after capturing the Sinai, Israel gave it back to Egypt. Pls go and read on the two-state solution. Palestinians don't want a 2-state solution, they want the entire land of Israel. Under Bill Clinton they agreed for a Palestinian state in Gaza but yasa Arafat refused. Why do you think the Arab states are silent and refusing to take in Palestinian refugees, they know the Palestinian don't want peace

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by Damian911: 3:54pm On Feb 02
smokinloud:

They don't want a state with Jews as their neighbors. That's the meaning of "from the river to the sea" the Jews skull should be thrown in the sea. So they don't want their own state as long as they don't want to live with a community that's been on the land for 6000 years when they themselves migrated to to the land not longer than 500 years ago.
Hahaha your opinion is quite hilarious
You said they don't want the Jews and their aimis to drive them out of the territory
But somehow their aim seems unrealistic, like a pipe dream and they have been butchered and tortured on their so called land and they for over 70yrs have been at the mercy of their captors
The little territory they managing has been annexed and you're telling opportunity to independent with both with the over 70yrs hellish experience?
Dey play!
Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by oluwaahmed: 3:56pm On Feb 02
Damian911:
Hahaha your opinion is quite hilarious
You said they don't want the Jews and their aimis to drive them out of the territory
But somehow their aim seems unrealistic, like a pipe dream and they have been butchered and tortured on their so called land and they for over 70yrs have been at the mercy of their captors
The little territory they managing has been annexed and you're telling opportunity to independent with both with the over 70yrs hellish experience?
Dey play!
It's the plain fùcking truth. They never wanted the 2-state solution. Israel and America has offered it many times but they refused. What they want is for the Israelis to leave the entire state of Israel for them. It sounds unreasonable right? Exactly! Browse and read about it

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Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by smokinloud(m): 3:57pm On Feb 02
Damian911:
Hahaha your opinion is quite hilarious
You said they don't want the Jews and their aimis to drive them out of the territory
But somehow their aim seems unrealistic, like a pipe dream and they have been butchered and tortured on their so called land and they for over 70yrs have been at the mercy of their captors
The little territory they managing has been annexed and you're telling opportunity to independent with both with the over 70yrs hellish experience?
Dey play!
The innocent Palestinians will accept such offer but the Islamists would never. Polls have it. They want the entire land and agreeing with any former UN partition means they are losers
Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by seunayantokun(m): 3:57pm On Feb 02
But Cameron said no such move could come while Hamas remains in Gaza.
Unfortunately or fortunately, Hamas can never leave Gaza, because Hamas is Gaza, Gaza is Hamas.
Re: UK Could Recognize Palestinian State Before Any Deal With Israel, Says David Cam by smokinloud(m): 3:59pm On Feb 02
oluwaahmed:

It's the plain fùcking truth. They never wanted the 2-state solution. Israel and America has offered it many times but they refused. What they want is for the Israelis to leave the entire state of Israel for them. It sounds unreasonable right? Exactly! Browse and read about it
He knows, he's just opining that because they've been dealt with they'll be eager to accept anything. The problem is the force behind their mission. The Arab world

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