eph12:
"We need a RW. Please get me my tested and trusted Antony from Ajax at all cost"

As against getting who?
Let’s not all pretend like we didn’t want Antony then and he was rated decently
The fact that he cost that much is only on the useless business that has become the club’s trademark

maik99:


As against getting who?
Let’s not all pretend like we didn’t want Antony then and he was rated decently
The fact that he cost that much is only on the useless business that has become the club’s trademark

Gakpo, who had far better stats than pocolee, was available for less than half of what we paid yet ETH felt otherwise

AdisaOwala:


ETH,the manager of man UTD, was aware of the available budget, yet approved that a considerable part of it be spent on a "highly rated upcoming winger. The type you'd say has the qualities but didn't have the stats" (your exact words)....

If a manager cannot optimize available resources at his disposal, what then is he "managing"?


There is no spinning away from this - ETH has been extremely wasteful in the TWs and it all boils down to one thing - man is clueless!

Manage which resources? The same one we all agreed needed to be totally disbanded. The same one we said needed open heart surgery?

All of these is because Antony failed. He'll be facing the same shit if Hojlund was failing in similar fashion.

It's easy to say all these shit now. But imagine a new manager taking on that squad that everyone tagged absolutely useless.

ChristoBam:


Manage which resources? The same one we all agreed needed to be totally disbanded. The same one we said needed open heart surgery?

All of these is because Antony failed. He'll be facing the same shit if Hojlund was failing in similar fashion.

It's easy to say all these shit now. But imagine a new manager taking on that squad that everyone tagged absolutely useless.

Resources, in this context, means funds...

ETH spent a considerable chunk of our budget on a player who in your words, was largely unproven and lacked output

Make it make sense to me please

maik99:


As against getting who?
Let’s not all pretend like we didn’t want Antony then and he was rated decently
The fact that he cost that much is only on the useless business that has become the club’s trademark

Like I don't understand. It's so clear.

Like we all wanted Antony. Only began to show skepticism when it became obvious we were going to overpay. But who was the option then?

At that point, if we went for ordinary chukwueze, they'd have asked for 60m. It was very obvious to everyone we were desperate.

AdisaOwala:


Resources, in this context, means funds...

ETH spent a considerable chunk of our budget on a player who in your words, was largely unproven and lacked output

Make it make sense to me please

Why are y'all ignoring the timeline of events?

At the point we went in for Antony, he was still seen as a decently priced addition to the team.

It was too late into the transfer window before we actually realized he was going to be super expensive.

At that point what was he supposed to do?

Jokerman:


Does Rasmus talent looks pure 😂

Pure as in pure water?

maik99:


As against getting who?
Let’s not all pretend like we didn’t want Antony then and he was rated decently
The fact that he cost that much is only on the useless business that has become the club’s trademark

So assuming you were ETH, and you know you work with a budget, would you sanction that amount for him or would you consider other options?

ChristoBam:


Why are y'all ignoring the timeline of events?

At the point we went in for Antony, he was still seen as a decently priced addition to the team.

It was too late into the transfer window before we actually realized he was going to be super expensive.
At that point what was he supposed to do?

So if Ajax wanted 500m for Anthony, we should probably have sold old Trafford to finance the deal all because "it was too late into the transfer window to pull out"?

Please make it make sense to me

AdisaOwala:


Resources, in this context, means funds...

ETH spent a considerable chunk of our budget on a player who in your words, was largely unproven and lacked output

Make it make sense to me please

One would think ETH has not bought/loaned over 10 players. Because we are focusing on Antony, they think we have forgotten

eph12:

Pure as in pure water?

Hazard na him Sabi these things

AdisaOwala:


So if Ajax wanted 500m for Anthony, we should probably have sold old Trafford to finance the deal all because "it was too late into the transfer window to pull out"?

Please make it make sense to me

Let's talk sensible things abeg. They asked for an amount the best promising players were going for. We wouldn't have paid that if we had gone into negotiations sensibly with options available.

AdisaOwala:


So if Ajax wanted 500m for Anthony, we should probably have sold old Trafford to finance the deal all because "it was too late into the transfer window to pull out"?

Please make it make sense to me

Apparently, there are no options when it concerns manchester united. LFC wanted Caceido, but got someone else as they couldn't get him. But when its Manchester United, there are no options

eph12:

One would think ETH has not bought/loaned over 10 players. Because we are focusing on Antony, they think we have forgotten

It's Mourtough's fault jare

Jokerman:


Hazard na him Sabi these things

That one that was finished at 29

eph12:

One would think ETH has not bought/loaned over 10 players. Because we are focusing on Antony, they think we have forgotten

Most loan players end up beind mid. There's a reason they're available for loan. So let's not start padding list to push agenda.

ChristoBam:

Let's talk sensible things abeg. They asked for an amount the best promising players were going for. We wouldn't have paid that if we had gone into negotiations sensibly with options available.

What are you saying naa?

How can you spend a large percentage of your budget on a promising player that has no output (your exact words)

The sense isn't sensing naa

ChristoBam:

Which question?

Let's rewind to August 2022 and tell me who tf was going to ignore an Antony deal and decide to instead rely on an academy player with zero premier league minutes.

Cuz some of una on this thread sometimes ehhn. Which question.

Who the fvck inherits the worst United team in recent history in terms of performance and decide the addition of an academy player should be enough up front

ETH coached this same Antony at Ajax, there's no way he didn't know Antony was not worth the amount we paid for him and as well was not ready for the big stage.

Was Antony the only RWF available in the market back then? For that amount, we could have signed just about any RWF in the PL or any of Europe's top 5 leagues...

eph12:

Apparently, there are no options when it concerns manchester united. LFC wanted Caceido, but got someone else as they couldn't get him. But when its Manchester United, there are no options

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Lmao just buttressing my point. Na Ten Hag scout for options too?

Let me even add. These fools were actually negotiating deals with options in mind. But they were so certain of getting Antony, they left it late without really looking at options.

ChristoBam:

Most loan players end up beind mid. There's a reason they're available for loan. So let's not start padding list to push agenda.

Why won't you loan players when you spend your budget on bums like Antony and Mount? If the money was spent wisely, we won't need to loan players like Amrabat.

AdisaOwala:


What are you saying naa?

How can you spend a large percentage of your budget on a promising player that has no output (your exact words)

The sense isn't sensing naa

You're just repeating the same thing while twisting my words. I said Ajax was a very promising player. The only thing y'all had against him was the stats.

ChristoBam:
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Lmao just buttressing my point. Na Ten Hag scout for options too?

Let me even add. These fools were actually negotiating deals with options in mind. But they were so certain of getting Antony, they left it late without really looking at options.

Stop painting ETH as a figurehead and mannequin, who has no idea about what is happening in the club and has no say. Its his team, he has a huge say.

ChristoBam:
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Lmao just buttressing my point. Na Ten Hag scout for options too?

Let me even add. These fools were actually negotiating deals with options in mind. But they were so certain of getting Antony, they left it late without really looking at options.

It is the coach who is supposed to draft a list of his top priorities for each position we intend to strengthen and include options should we fail to get the first choice. As we saw with the FDJ deal, it is apparent that for ETH, he sticks to his first choice...

Another example is the Mount deal, even when the amount quoted for Mount was too high considering Chelsea had to sell, ETH insisted we get Mount. Pep in that position will ask City to look elsewhere.

eph12:

Apparently, there are no options when it concerns manchester united. LFC wanted Caceido, but got someone else as they couldn't get him. But when its Manchester United, there are no options

Na the talk dey pain me pass. Na only when e concern Man Utd e go be like say players no dey market again.

ChristoBam:

You're just repeating the same thing while twisting my words. I said Ajax was a very promising player. The only thing y'all had against him was the stats.

Promising player without stats?

What then is he promising you?

Even the ones wey get stats dey cast, you come carry significant amount of your budget buy the one wey no get anything tangible to show for his "promise"

No be potential promise and fail be that?

This is synonymous with explaining tire but no evidence na

Make it make sense to me please

eph12:

Why won't you loan players when you spend your budget on bums like Antony and Mount? If the money was spent wisely, we won't need to loan players like Amrabat.

Bro, I can't be repeating the same thing.

There's a reason we're not trying to build up a football structure unlike before. Ten Hag is not Paul Mitchell. Klopp is not Dan Ashworth. The players they are actually able to access are very limited.

It's just a pity we're finally fixing things after wasting millions.

AdisaOwala:


Promising player without stats?

What then is he promising you?

Even the ones wey get stats dey cast, you come carry significant amount of your budget buy the one wey no get anything tangible

This is synonymous with explaining tire but no evidence na

Make it make sense to me please

I guess Hojlund was a huge bum then. Cuz how striker go get 7 goals lmao.

Dey there dey look for youngster with 50 goals.

Nonsense excuses for Ten Bald as usual.
Make i go read lamentations for Chelshit thread jare....

patrickmuf:
Na the talk dey pain me pass. Na only when e concern Man Utd e go be like say players no dey market again.

People need to stop using that as an excuse

ChristoBam:

Bro, I can't be repeating the same thing.

There's a reason we're not trying to build up a football structure unlike before. Ten Hag is not Paul Mitchell. Klopp is not Dan Ashworth. The players they are actually able to access are very limited.

It's just a pity we're finally fixing things after wasting millions.

Stop repeating the same nonsense na. When ETH heard the club wanted to buy his former player for 100m, why didn't he resist? Or its not his money, e no concern am? Abi he was not aware of the transfer until he suddenly saw Antony at Carrington?

There are some other idiots involved in this transfer, but accept ETH own first

ChristoBam:


I guess Hojlund was a huge bum then. Cuz how striker go get 7 goals lmao.

Dey there dey look for youngster with 50 goals.

This is exactly why resource (funds) management is extremely important.....

Yes, we also overpaid for Hojlund - another player who obviously wasn't (isn't) ready and needed considerable
time but of course his own na another story for another day.

We have spent a lot of money on transfers yet the likes of Maino and Garnacho are our best players..

Make it make sense to me please

eph12:

Stop repeating the same nonsense na. When ETH heard the club wanted to buy his former player for 100m, why didn't he resist? Or its not his money, e no concern am? Abi he was not aware of the transfer until he suddenly saw Antony at Carrington?

There are some other idiots involved in this transfer, but accept ETH own first

At this point na to dey repost old stuff. No fit dey repeat the same thing 100 times.