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Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by aribisala0(m): 10:11am On Feb 07 |
mrvitalis:Will you please shut up? Do no allow me say something that will get me banned . $16 billion is too small for YOU? Who the hell are you? What is our total export to the World? Apart from crude oil? Where exactly will the $16 billion come from? borrowing No one is saying there should be zero imports The question is ,what exactly are we importing?What Are we importing caviar or cheese? Is that where the $16 billion goes? No It is Cooking oil Palm oil Maize Fish Chicken Turkey Wheat Milk Rice If you have nothing sensible to say just shut up. The issue with the $16 billion is simple Nigeria should be a net exporter of food. If Holland with I million hectares can we should too We Are not producing much of value for export besides oil and cannot afford the food imports That is why there is hunger in the land 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by nairalanda1(m): 10:37am On Feb 07 |
ivolt: Yes but he criticises goverment inability to make more money, corruption and incompetence. He is also amused at the number of people with nests on der cranium... |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by RenaissanceGuy: 10:44am On Feb 07 |
ivolt:Do you think China practices hoe and cutlass agriculture we practice here in Nigeria?? What's bad about mechanized agriculture that China should be ashamed of?? When 70% of its workforce was in agriculture, it was govt-imposed socialist collectivised form of agriculture, but things have changed. |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by mrvitalis(m): 1:04pm On Feb 07 |
aribisala0:Lmaooo you import apples can you grow that in Nigeria You import cooking oil, do you grow canola? Olive? Know You import stock fish You import milk do you have the climate? You import wine do you have the climate for grapes? Oh apple juice? Ooh wheat How about oat, how sardines can you find them in your river? You should be asking what we can export to the world |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by aribisala0(m): 1:14pm On Feb 07 |
mrvitalis: We import $16 billion worth of apples?What The bulk of cooking oil we import is bleached refined palm oil Aka. RBD palm OIL I listed those things that make up.The bulk of our import bill which we have no business importing. I have not said we should not import food so do not dissemble I said NET we should not be a food importer NET. YOU deliberately choose to ignore that and insist on being stupid Like I said I'd you have nothing sensible to say shut up You are just clutching at straws The point is we should be a net food exporter Like I said you do not come here to learn but to proudly showcase your ignorance and folly YES WE HAVE THE CLIMATE TO PRODUCE ALL THE WHEAT WE CONSUME You are like I said comprehensively ignorant and proud of it |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by mrvitalis(m): 1:19pm On Feb 07 |
aribisala0:So and you think the way not to be a net food importer is to reduce import of food?. What about increasing export of food? |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by Rostikol: 1:21pm On Feb 07 |
The first mistake you people make is believing that crap about so much “arable land” in Nigeria, based on that dodgy list of countries posted. The type of soil we have in Nigeria, and virtually all Africa, simply does not produce abundant yields as much as other continents. African soil is terrible for agriculture compared to other continents. It’s the reason we’ve had problems feeding, especially as the African population has risen to 1.3 billion, up from merely 100 million in 1905. According to wiki, “ Red soils are typically difficult for crop cultivation because high leaching leads to low water holding capacity, low nutrients, low organic matter (humus), and acidification. Fluctuations in the concentration of iron within red soil are found to have significant implications on its fertility and growth properties.” One more thing: the real reason mechanised farming rarely works here is that the limited fertility of the soil makes the use of expensive equipment uneconomical. |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by aribisala0(m): 1:28pm On Feb 07 |
mrvitalis:Guy please stop quoting me You cannot pretend to be an intellectual You are a dunce First did you know we have the climate to PRODUCE wheat? Did you know we are one of the largest importers of RBD palm oil You just go about after overdosing on fufu making stupid and ignorant assertions The point is simple We should produce optimally what we can which is Wheat Rice Chicken Fish Turkey I Cooking oil Sugar Tomato paste Cassava Animal feeds If we do that we will be a net exporter Instead you are talking bullshit about apples and canola |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by mrvitalis(m): 1:33pm On Feb 07 |
aribisala0:You can produce wheat in Nigeria efficiently? Wheat? By the way what exactly is stopping u from farming this crops since u can farm them cheaper U obviously have done anything farming ( commercial before) |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by aribisala0(m): 1:35pm On Feb 07 |
Rostikol: It is irritating when dunces come here to make stupid and ignorant generalisation Where did you get the deal about red soil? Soil that supports extensive tropical forests is Red soil? Nigeria is among the largest producers of ginger,cassava,peanuts,cashew nuts, palmoil,yam to name a few. We just don't have the right investment Until recently Zimbabwe was one of the most efficient food producers in the world when European farmers with knowledge and capital managed farms Same in South Africa The issue is one of knowledge,technology and capital not this bullshit about red soil |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by Ginik: 1:36pm On Feb 07 |
mrvitalis:we have laid a very faulty foundation |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by mrvitalis(m): 1:39pm On Feb 07 |
Ginik:APC are socialists, for them build infrastructure economy would grow Obi told them in 2019 they didn't listen, told them in 2023 they didn't listen |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by aribisala0(m): 1:40pm On Feb 07 |
mrvitalis:When you don't know a thing try to learn do not go about looking stupid and proud. Do you think the whole of Nigeria has one climate.? There are areas in the North e.g Mambilla Plateau that are over 1 kilometre above sea level Go to Gembu and surrounding areas Guy you are an ignoramus |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by mrvitalis(m): 1:43pm On Feb 07 |
aribisala0:Lmao bro So what's stopping you from going to farm wheat there and make millions |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by aribisala0(m): 1:44pm On Feb 07 |
mrvitalis:You are a dunce You have nothing sensible to contribute Just ignorant and conceited opinions |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by mrvitalis(m): 1:51pm On Feb 07 |
aribisala0:Is a very simple question |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by aribisala0(m): 1:53pm On Feb 07 |
mrvitalis:a stupid trolling question Is your father a farmer? If he is ask him that question There is a wheat farmers association of Nigeria. Ask him to join |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by mrvitalis(m): 2:14pm On Feb 07 |
aribisala0:Why do you think indomie, Honeywell, dongote import wheat if they can produce it locally cheaper |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by aribisala0(m): 2:19pm On Feb 07 |
mrvitalis:You can ask the same question about petrol and diesel? Why are we importing those? Like I said you are a dunce You are an attention seeker with nothing in your head |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by mrvitalis(m): 2:51pm On Feb 07 |
aribisala0:We import petrol because it's cheaper to import, we haven't developed the comparative advantage But I guess that flies over your head |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by aribisala0(m): 2:59pm On Feb 07 |
mrvitalis:Cheaper to import? How much cheaper? By what factor? Please cite a figure What is the margin/difference? So we have working refineries? we just don't use them because it is cheaper to import? By your self You will show your brain power to other readers |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by mrvitalis(m): 3:02pm On Feb 07 |
aribisala0:your refineries are not efficient reason no big oil player wants them for free even Obj tried dashing it to Shell they said no... If you know business u know refineries are a complex low profit margin business It's mathematically impossible to refine fuel here cheaper than we import We simply do not have the scale to make that happen, our demand is to low for such investment |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by ivolt: 3:02pm On Feb 07 |
nairalanda1:Yes, he does that in another universe billions of light years away. But here, je os patently anti=public. He believes all administrations are the same and can't be blamed for national economic outcomes. When politicians borrows or spend lavishly, he is mute but he is quick to defend cuts to citizens directed public spending because "we can't afford it" or "the government has no choice but to..." . He believes all economic crisis stems from subsidies. And government policies and plans has no effect on economic outcomes outside of implementing or cutting subsidies. Yes, there have always been people like that. For example the pseudo-intellectuals who quoted malthusian theory to rail against intervention(i.e subsidies) during the Irish famine. |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by aribisala0(m): 3:06pm On Feb 07 |
mrvitalis: How much cheaper? if there is no demand? |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by mrvitalis(m): 3:08pm On Feb 07 |
aribisala0:So cheaper no importers wants to build |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by aribisala0(m): 3:11pm On Feb 07 |
mrvitalis:But Dangote built BUA is building |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by aribisala0(m): 3:12pm On Feb 07 |
mrvitalis: You talk very stupidly Our demand is so low for such an investment But others invest in refining capacity to export To us? Assuming your stupid claim.about demand is true(it is not) we do not have to consume to justify refinery. We can export to West Africa and the world So why did Dangote build refinery |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by mrvitalis(m): 3:20pm On Feb 07 |
aribisala0:Lol your cost of crude oil production is among the highest in the world.. That's alone is at disadvantaged There are already established players who have better advantage than you, have bigger capital you can't compete Focus on something u can compete Read theory of comparative advantage |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by mrvitalis(m): 3:20pm On Feb 07 |
aribisala0:Lmao u mean loan scams ? It's impossible for dangote to sale petrol below #1000 and breakeven it's mathematically impossible |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by aribisala0(m): 3:27pm On Feb 07 |
mrvitalis:So what what has selling at 1000 Naira got to do with anything? Where does that figure come from You said it is cheaper to import So that is the argument. You need to advance How is it cheaper to import |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by sunboy(m): 3:32pm On Feb 07 |
The government must involve the youth in agriculture. And they must incentivize agriculture for youths to be attracted to it! Give free land, provide tractors for rent or support financing option for them to acquire one, guarantee sales of their produce and watch how youths will flock the farming sector and crash the price of food. This worked everywhere in the world! You must support agriculture and incentivize it! This is not rocket science. We will become a major exporter of produce in no time. Cost of living in high in many western countries, but they incentivize agriculture, food is always dirty cheap. Also, no tax on any food stuff. |
Re: Nigeria Cannot Feed Herself. Spent $15 Billion Importing Food in 2019 by aribisala0(m): 3:32pm On Feb 07 |
mrvitalis:Our cost of Crude oil production is irrelevant to refinery business Among the biggest refineries in the world are in India Singapore and Korea None are known as oil producers You are probably the most ignorant dolt on Nairaland and yet you do not hesitate to broadcast your unintelligent and opinionated drivel Totally clueless with an unrestrained compulsion to talk and yet You never say anything sensible not even by mistake |
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