Expanse2020:

Ehen so tell me every Muslim always read bible before reading Quran 😂🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
I will like you to proof it to me óò
Who came first óò you may enlightening me if it is Moses OOO😂🤣🤣🤣
Abraham came first Abi you see another verse that said Moses was the first man in your own Quran too, 🤣🤣🤣🤣
We hear every Xtians are now getting There own copy of the Quran t😂😂😂😂

TenQ:

Mr Liar Dis_Honesttalk21

Show the hadith that fixes the context as this you claimed above

Bilal was saying to Abubakr,
If you claim you have bought me for Allah, then free me for Allah
BUT
if you bought me for yourself, then keep me for yourself.


Islam is a religion of cascade of lies!
It seems only you doesn't know that

TenQ:


Then tell us WHY Bilal said this to Abubakr

Sahih al-Bukhari 3755
Narrated Qais:
Bilal said to Abu Bakr, " If you have bought me for yourself then keep me (for yourself), but if you have bought me for Allah's Sake , then leave me for Allah's Work."


Again :
Abu Bakr emancipated Bilal FROM Umayyah ibn Khalaf by buying him for himself. He loaned him to Mohammed to be his megaphone for calling Muslims to prayer



Who told you that there is no war or slavery in the Bible?
Is this another Strawman argument!?

Even the children of Isreal were slaves in Egypt and with the Babylonians and with the Assyrians etc And they themselves have captured slaves in war.

The question is about the one you use to entice black people : Bilal was never set free from slavery. If he was, tell us when and the occurence when Abubakr set Bilal free.

honesttalk21:


Did you not say:



b]Abu Bakr emancipated Bilal FROM Umayyah ibn Khalaf by buying him for himself. He loaned him to Mohammed [/b]to be his megaphone for calling Muslims to prayer

b]He loaned him to Mohammed [/b]
Proof of this statement which you obviously lie about is what I ask and surely you a humanified lie or bot cannot produce.

Did you not make this statement without proof or reference?

SIRTeee15:



So U cannot give me a single verse in the Qur'an that makes it clear Abraham existed b4 Moses. Just one.

So then the question now is how did U know Abraham came b4 Moses?
From the bible?....so U believed the words of a corrupt book to know which one of the patriarch of banu Israeli came first.

Ladies and gentlemen this is why Islam makes no sense.
It lacks clear, detailed and sound theology, it's doctrines are inconsistent.
Koran is meant to be a complete book but U need to read the bible b4 the stories in the Koran can make sense.

Koran claim it's a clear book. Yet different sects of islam can't agree on what exactly is the holy spirit.
Sunmi say holy spirit is angel Michael while shia insists it's the spirit of God.
Both Sunni and Shia read about the holy spirit in the same koran which claims to be clear yet arrives different conclusion on the holy spirit.
I keep saying it, U have to lose your brain or play dumb to be a Muslim.

TenQ:

Was Jibril not human?


Why are you afraid to answer this:
Is the Word of God a sinner?
Is the spirit of God a sinner?

And
What was Jibril's mouth doing on the vulva of Mary?

Expanse2020:

I know you are daft..
If you read Quran you will know who Allah first created and who first landed on this Earth
Then you will know when Moses came too..
Where did you see holy spirit in Quran 😂😂😂😂😂
Tell me where you and the Sunni sat down and concluded that Jubril A.S is the holy spirit
And where you and Shiite sat and concluded that holy spirit is in the Quran
When you check Quran the second chapter, Your and you are looking for is there. You just need to read to acquire knowledge
Empty head🤣😂😂🤣🤣

TenQ:

And I have asked you a million times


Why then did Bilal say:

Sahih al-Bukhari 3755
Narrated Qais:
Bilal said to Abu Bakr, " If you have bought me for yourself then keep me (for yourself), but if you have bought me for Allah's Sake , then leave me for Allah's Work."

Why did Bilal became the cock crow at dawn for Mohammed?


I've asked you

If Bilal was set free, tell us when and the occurence when Abubakr set Bilal free to warrant the hadith above.

TenQ:

Again :
Abu Bakr emancipated Bilal FROM Umayyah ibn Khalaf by buying him for himself. He loaned him to Mohammed to be his megaphone for calling Muslims to prayer

honesttalk21:


A million?

Well I have answered at least twice that Bilal inquired if Abu Bakr bought him to re engage him in slavery or he did so for the sake of Allah so he can live a life engaged in the fulfilment of Allah's will for him i.e Jihad of self and encouragement of justice.

honesttalk21:

Now how did you come about


Where did you get this from? You definitely manufactured it in your lies factory.

Expanse2020:

So Jubril is a human 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The word of not a sinner Yes
The spirit the God created from be as it is not. Sinner Yes

But the bible said and affirm it that Jesus is a sinner by generalizing the facts on the bible

TenQ:

How did you come about this because there is no single time line to justify it.

I am waiting!

TenQ:

It makes perfect logical sense sir.

Else explain why a FREED Bilal will say Free me if you have bought me for the sake of Allah and keep me if you bought me for yourself?

Expanse2020:

The ISSA (PBUH)prophet in the Quran and the one who was sent with gospel are the same but the Roman and Paul Jesus are different there is different between Original and China made😂😂😂🤣🤣

honesttalk21:


Did I tarry long?
In one narration, it is mentioned that when Hazrat Bilal(ra) became a Muslim, his masters took hold of him and laid him on the ground and placed stones and cow skin on him and said, “Your gods are Lat and Uzza [names of idols].” However, Hazrat Bilal(ra) would only repeat, “Ahad, Ahad [God is One, God is One].” Hazrat Abu Bakr(ra) approached his masters and said, “For how long will you continue to torment this man?” Hazrat Abu Bakr(ra) paid seven auqiyah for Hazrat Bilal(ra) and freed him.

Obviously the discussion took place before he was freed.

One auqiyah is equivalent to 40 dirham; that is, he paid 280 dirhams for him. Thereafter, Hazrat Abu Bakr(ra) narrated this incident to the Holy Prophet(sa), upon which the Holy Prophet(sa) said, “O Abu Bakr! Include me in this deed as well.” Hazrat Abu Bakr(ra) replied, “O Prophet(sa) of Allah! I have already freed him.” (Ibn Sa‘d, Al-Tabaqat al-Kubra, Vol. 3, Bilal bin Rabah [Beirut, Lebanon: Dar al-Kutub al-‘Ilmiyyah, 2017] 175) (Waheed al-Zaman, Lughat al-Hadith, Vol. 4 [Lahore, Pakistan: Ali Asif Printers, 2002] 527

Abu Bakr freeing him is in line with prophet Muhammad pbuh discouraging slavery. The Prophet was thus included as he is the one to have encouraged the freeing of slaves.

honesttalk21:

Show how your derivations are not a product of logical fallacy. I have backed my statement with references and you only have the hadith which obviously took place immediately after the transaction with Umayyah. Show your references which you cannot pathological liar.

TenQ:

According to Allah, is Jesus a sinner like Mohammed?

TenQ:

According to Allah, is Jesus a sinner like Mohammed?

SIRTeee15:


This dumb guy didn't even understand my question.

I'm not asking U who first landed on this earth.

I'M ASKING YOU WHO WAS ANCESTOR OF THE OTHER?
WAS ABRAHAM THE ANCESTOR OF MOSES OR MOSES THE ANCESTOR OF ABRAHAM.
THIS IS MY QUESTION..DUMB.

give me a clear verse/passage in the Koran that shows who was the ancestor of the other.

For example this verse in the bible makes it clear who existed first btw Moses and Abraham.

Really God come to the busy to look for MOSES..Chaiiiii🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Really he was calling the Moses within the bush you really mean inside the bush
Exodus 3
When the Lord saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, “Moses! Moses!”
🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

And Moses said, “Here I am.”

5 “Do not come any closer,” God said. “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground.” 6 Then he said, “I am the God of your father,[a] the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.” [At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God.
Oya hide your face 🤣🤣🤣😂😂 ọmọ bettta

Here God was talking to Moses and told him He is the God of Abraham. This shows Abraham existed b4 Moses.

Now go to your Koran and bring me a clear verse or passage that shows Abraham existed b4 Moses.
That's what I want to see.

Expanse2020:


Where did you see holy spirit in Quran 😂😂😂😂😂
Tell me where you and the Sunni sat down and concluded that Jubril A.S is the holy spirit
And where you and Shiite sat and concluded that holy spirit is in the Quran
When you check Quran the second chapter, Your and you are looking for is there. You just need to read to acquire knowledge
Empty head🤣😂😂🤣🤣

Expanse2020:


Where did you see holy spirit in Quran 😂😂😂😂😂
Tell me where you and the Sunni sat down and concluded that Jubril A.S is the holy spirit
And where you and Shiite sat and concluded that holy spirit is in the Quran
When you check Quran the second chapter, Your and you are looking for is there. You just need to read to acquire knowledge
Empty head🤣😂😂🤣🤣

Expanse2020:


Where did you see holy spirit in Quran 😂😂😂😂😂
Tell me where you and the Sunni sat down and concluded that Jubril A.S is the holy spirit
And where you and Shiite sat and concluded that holy spirit is in the Quran
When you check Quran the second chapter, Your and you are looking for is there. You just need to read to acquire knowledge
Empty head🤣😂😂🤣🤣

SIRTeee15:


Hehe😅😂🤣Confusion galore in the mosque...
Who will help solve the confusion. Who will settle the disagreement b4 they start stabbing themselves.

TenQ won't U volunteer and reveal to Muslims who holy spirit truly is. Since the so called clear book has only created more confusion.

Abi U go wait until they kill each other finish on top who got it right.
U know these Muslims don't joke with violence.

SIRTeee15:


Whereas Shia disagree that holy spirit is angel Gabriel. Holy spirit in the same koran, a supposed clear book giving 2 different answers.

In fact the Sufi Muslims has another meaning for holy spirit in the Koran. Those one call it the immortal self.

Hehe😅😂🤣Confusion galore in the mosque...
Who will help solve the confusion. Who will settle the disagreement b4 they start stabbing themselves.


https://slife.org/holy-spirit-in-islam/

Expanse2020:

Eheneh tell me more there is holy spirit in Islam
I want to learn óò😂😂😂😂😂

SIRTeee15:


Another one. Holy spirit is angel Gabriel.
Expanse is saying holy spirit is a pure soul.

That should be the 4th answer today. Who is right? Sunni, Shia,, suffi or expanse

TenQ won't U come to the rescue. The bloke I debating doesn't even know his own Koran. He's waste of valuable time.

At least honesttalk is trying, he attempts to formulate non existent theology in islam.
At least he's trying, honesttalk has read the Koran and knows that the theology in Koran is very poor...so he's trying to generate theology for Islam.

This expanse ma olodo. He knows nothing. Ordinary who is the holy spirit, he's struggling. What if I take him on bigger exegesis.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/14403

Expanse2020:

Ehen fabricator🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣says from fabricator of all time

Expanse2020:

Please let me ask a question
Is ALLAH Your God

SIRTeee15:


Hehe😅😂🤣Confusion galore in the mosque...
Who will help solve the confusion. Who will settle the disagreement b4 they start stabbing themselves.

TenQ won't U volunteer and reveal to Muslims who holy spirit truly is. Since the so called clear book has only created more confusion.

Abi U go wait until they kill each other finish on top who got it right.
U know these Muslims don't joke with violence.

Expanse2020:

Tell me is the spirit also the same as the Angel

TenQ:

In Islam,
Jesus is a Spirit of Allah
Jibril is the Holy Spirit
Allah has a Spirit
Eheeen so there is a different between spirit and holly spirit 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣Mugun
But they are confused about what a spirit actually is

Expanse2020:
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Expanse2020:

Shut up
Where did you see it show me where in Quran that Jubril is spirit of Allah
gaffeee