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Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 4:02pm On Feb 19
TenQ:


Which of the Allah?

The Allah that is my God is Yahweh!

Any other Allah is a counterfeit Allah.

But my Allah is certainly not the Allah of Mohammed nor the Muslims
Ehen ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚but you believe Muhammed and Allah that Jesus is form from pure spirit and not a sinner in the Quran but fail to accept that your bible said Jesus is a sinner and a killer (according to gospel of Thomas). But

Did you know Yahweh was a pagan God who consist of 3 in 1 God
Have you read about Zeus)Eassus

Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTeee15: 4:08pm On Feb 19
Expanse2020:

Tell me is the spirit also the same as the Angel
Ask your Koran,.do t ask me.
All answers I brought here were written by Muslims like u. No non Muslim co tributed.

All I want to know is why are Muslims generating different answers from the same thing in your Koran.....who is the holy spirit- we have 4 different answers.

Koran is a clear book indeed. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜†
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 4:13pm On Feb 19
Expanse2020:

Ehen ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚but you believe Muhammed and Allah that Jesus is form from pure spirit and not a sinner in the Quran but fail to accept that your bible said Jesus is a sinner and a killer (according to gospel of Thomas). But

You are just repeating your lies as it it will somehow change into the truth.
1. Where in the Bible did Jesus kill any man or woman or child.
2. I do NOT Believe Mohammed one tiny bit sir.
He is a fraudster and 419!

Expanse2020:

Did you know Yahweh was a pagan God who consist of 3 in 1 God
Have you read about Zeus)Eassus
Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of?
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTeee15: 5:38pm On Feb 19
Expanse2020:


Did you know Yahweh was a pagan God who consist of 3 in 1 God
Have you read about Zeus)Eassus

So U dont believe in YAHWEH? U don't believe God of the bible is Yahweh?
Is that what U saying ?

Do U believe in Elijah? He's called Ilyas in the Koran.
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTeee15: 6:15pm On Feb 19
Expanse2020
Incase U don't know...
Elijah mean My God is YAHWEH
and
Yahaya mean YAHWEH is merciful.

So the question is why are prophets of Allah bearing pagan names and why is Allah calling them by that such names.

I can imagine Allah calling the prophet ' My God is Yahweh'
expanse, how does that sound to U?

Walahi, Islam is a scam. The biggest conglomeration of zombies bound together by violence and intolerance, yet told they are slaves to their deity.

I keep saying it there's no theology in the Koran. None.

That's why intelligent Muslims like honesttalk are busy fabricating and forging theology for Islam because they know there's none.
Expanse2020 na mumu, he's too dull to do exegesis forgery for the Koran not to talk of theology.
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 7:14pm On Feb 19
SIRTeee15:
Expanse2020
Incase U don't know...
Elijah mean My God is YAHWEH
and
Yahaya mean YAHWEH is merciful.

So the question is why are prophets of Allah bearing pagan names and why is Allah calling them by that such names.

I can imagine Allah calling the prophet ' My
God is Yahweh'
expanse, how does that sound to U?

Walahi, Islam is a scam. The biggest conglomeration of zombies bound together by violence and intolerance, yet told they are slaves to their deity.

I keep saying it there's no theology in the Koran. None.

That's why intelligent Muslims like honesttalk are busy fabricating and forging theology for Islam because they know there's none.
Expanse2020 na mumu, he's too dull to do exegesis forgery for the Koran not to talk of theology.
So helijah is helija in Arabic๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ Arabic bร 

In Islam Yahaya mean Allah is gracious or merciful
So don't mix lie together and if you consider the Jew Yahweh toor it's suite

But your Yahweh na idol OOO read more

Yahwism is the name given by modern scholars to the religion of ancient kingdoms of Israel (c.โ€‰930โ€“720 BC) and Judah (c.โ€‰930โ€“587 BC).[1] Yahwism was essentially polytheistic, with a pantheon of gods and goddesses;[2] heading the pantheon was Yahweh, the national god of the Israelite kingdoms of Israel and Judah, with his consort, the goddess Asherah,[3] and second-tier gods and goddesses such as Baal, Shamash, Yarikh, Mot, and Astarte, each of whom had their own priests and prophets and numbered royalty among their devotees.[4][5] Towards the end of the Babylonian captivity, in the 6th century BCE, the existence of other gods was denied by the likes of the Second Isaiah, and Yahweh was proclaimed the creator deity and sole divinity to be worshipped:[6] eventually, Yahwism evolved into the monotheistic religions of Judaism and Samaritanism.[7][8]


Image on a pithos sherd found at Kuntillet Ajrud in the Sinai Peninsula of Egypt with the inscription "Yahweh and his Asherah"
The practices of Yahwism included festivals, sacrifices, vow-making, private rituals, and the adjudication of legal disputes.[9] Contrary to the picture presented in the Hebrew Bible, the Temple in Jerusalem was not the sole, or even central, temple of Yahweh,[10] but the king was the head of the national religion and thus the viceroy on Earth of the national god,[11] a role reflected each year when he presided over a ceremony enthroning Yahweh in the Holy Temple in Jerusalem.[12]
Yahwism underwent several redevelopments and recontextualizations as the notion of divinities aside from or comparable to Yahweh was gradually degraded by new religious currents and ideas. During the monarchic period (c. 10th to 6th centuries BCE) of the mid-Iron Age, the religion of Israel moved towards the sole worship of Yahweh alone; however, these theological changes initially remained largely confined to small groups,[13] only spreading to the population at large during the general political turbulence of the 7th and 6th centuries BCE. The progressive evolution towards monotheism had ultimately culminated by the end of the Babylonian exile in the late 6th century BCE, and by the 4th century BCE, Yahwism had coalesced into what is now known as Second Temple Judaism.[7] Yahwism also gave rise to Samaritanism.[8]

History never lied๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
READ MORE FROM HERE

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwism

I had Jesus was cursed from God too
Is it true
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 7:16pm On Feb 19
TenQ:

You are just repeating your lies as it it will somehow change into the truth.
1. Where in the Bible did Jesus kill any man or woman or child.
2. I do NOT Believe Mohammed one tiny bit sir.
He is a fraudster and 419!


Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of?
Read further I have message your counterpart on it
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 7:18pm On Feb 19
TenQ:

You are just repeating your lies as it it will somehow change into the truth.
1. Where in the Bible did Jesus kill any man or woman or child.
2. I do NOT Believe Mohammed one tiny bit sir.
He is a fraudster and 419!


Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of?

Yahwism underwent several redevelopments and recontextualizations as the notion of divinities aside from or comparable to Yahweh was gradually degraded by new religious currents and ideas. During the monarchic period (c. 10th to 6th centuries BCE) of the mid-Iron Age, the religion of Israel moved towards the sole worship of Yahweh alone; however, these theological changes initially remained largely confined to small groups,[13] only spreading to the population at large during the general political turbulence of the 7th and 6th centuries BCE. The progressive evolution towards monotheism had ultimately culminated by the end of the Babylonian exile in the late 6th century BCE, and by the 4th century BCE, Yahwism had coalesced into what is now known as Second Temple Judaism.[7] Yahwism also gave rise to Samaritanism.

READ MORE ON YAHWEH TODAY
[8]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwism
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 7:45pm On Feb 19
TenQ:

You are just repeating your lies as it it will somehow change into the truth.
1. Where in the Bible did Jesus kill any man or woman or child.
2. I do NOT Believe Mohammed one tiny bit sir.
He is a fraudster and 419!


Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of?
You should asked your scholars why Dem removed gospel of Thomas and bananas
๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
1.
You never heard Jesus cursed a kid(to witter away like a leave or baranch of tree) that disrupt water he used to make clay sparrow
2. He cursed a tree just because he was hungry and laid a frustration on the innocent tree
3. The cursed the teachers that sent him to learn from them they always fall and dies
4. He cursed Phareeses
5. He cursed Judas
And so many more
So tell me where is love your neighbor as yourself in the attitude
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Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 8:01pm On Feb 19
TenQ:

Read and quote me properly

In Islam,
-Jesus is a Spirit of Allah
-Jibril is the Holy Spirit
-Allah has a Spirit

But Muslims are confused about what a spirit actually is!
I had Jesus was cursed by God from the bible too
๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
Cursed com plenty for bible
Oga oooo
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 8:17pm On Feb 19
Expanse2020:

I had Jesus was cursed by God from the bible too
๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
Cursed com plenty for bible
Oga oooo
You have started behaving like a circus monkey with your babblings.

Gal 3:13:
"Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree:"


You remain under the curse of the law of sin and death unless you allow the Lamb of God to take away your sin and guilt.

John 1:29:
"The next day John sees Jesus coming to him, and said, Behold the Lamb of God, which takes away the sin of the world."



You have been decieved by the greatest deciever. Open your eyes and stop defending the 419 of Mohammed
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 8:19pm On Feb 19
Expanse2020:

You should asked your scholars why Dem removed gospel of Thomas and bananas
๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
1.
You never heard Jesus cursed a kid(to witter away like a leave or baranch of tree) that disrupt water he used to make clay sparrow
2. He cursed a tree just because he was hungry and laid a frustration on the innocent tree
3. The cursed the teachers that sent him to learn from them they always fall and dies
4. He cursed Phareeses
5. He cursed Judas
And so many more
So tell me where is love your neighbor as yourself in the attitude
๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
And this is the gospel Allah says Mohammed is written in?

You are shameless!
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 8:20pm On Feb 19
Expanse2020:


Yahwism underwent several redevelopments and recontextualizations as the notion of divinities aside from or comparable to Yahweh was gradually degraded by new religious currents and ideas. During the monarchic period (c. 10th to 6th centuries BCE) of the mid-Iron Age, the religion of Israel moved towards the sole worship of Yahweh alone; however, these theological changes initially remained largely confined to small groups,[13] only spreading to the population at large during the general political turbulence of the 7th and 6th centuries BCE. The progressive evolution towards monotheism had ultimately culminated by the end of the Babylonian exile in the late 6th century BCE, and by the 4th century BCE, Yahwism had coalesced into what is now known as Second Temple Judaism.[7] Yahwism also gave rise to Samaritanism.

READ MORE ON YAHWEH TODAY
[8]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwism
My question was simple

Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of?
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 8:25pm On Feb 19
My question was simple

Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of?[/quote]

Expanse2020:

Read further I have message your counterpart on it

Qur'an 19:7
(His prayer was answered): "O Zakariya! We give thee good news of a son: His name shall be Yahya : on none by that name have We conferred distinction before."


It's a simple Question
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTeee15: 8:41pm On Feb 19
Expanse2020:

So helijah is helija in Arabic๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ Arabic bร 

In Islam Yahaya mean Allah is gracious or merciful
So don't mix lie together and if you consider the Jew Yahweh toor it's suite

But your Yahweh na idol OOO read more



History never lied๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
READ MORE FROM HERE

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwism

I had Jesus was cursed from God too
Is it true

Abi this guy na imb.ecile.
Is Elijah or John the baptist Arabs
Are they Hebrew by birth or Arabs.
So if we want to find the meaning of their names, are we going to look into Hebrew etymology or Arab etymology.

Lots of yorubas bear bakare, busari, Hassan, Ahmed.
If we want to find the meaning of their names are we going to look into yoruba language?

Seriously U are a waste of time, U don't have what it takes to debate here.

Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 9:52pm On Feb 19
TenQ:

My question was simple

Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of?


Read further I have message your counterpart on it

Qur'an 19:7
(His prayer was answered): "O Zakariya! We give thee good news of a son: His name shall be Yahya : on none by that name have We conferred distinction before."


It's a simple Question
Is the christian bearing Yahaya
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 9:53pm On Feb 19
SIRTeee15:


Abi this guy na imb.ecile.
Is Elijah or John the baptist Arabs
Are they Hebrew by birth or Arabs.
So if we want to find the meaning of their names, are we going to look into Hebrew etymology or Arab etymology.

Lots of yorubas bear bakare, busari, Hassan, Ahmed.
If we want to find the meaning of their names are we going to look into yoruba language?

Seriously U are a waste of time, U don't have what it takes to debate here.
Why did you want to kill yourself is the christian bearing Yahaya
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 9:54pm On Feb 19
TenQ:

My question was simple

Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of?
Don't assume but accept
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 9:58pm On Feb 19
TenQ:

And this is the gospel Allah says Mohammed is written in?

You are shameless!
Mumu there is different between gospel and the bible
๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜œ
Mumu bible was not given to ISSA A.S but gospel..
Bible was written bible by Paul, mark Luke with there love letters and completed by the guy who raped his mother claimed bible is free but keep selling to the ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ s till eternity
๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
The sheeps cannot wise anymore
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 10:00pm On Feb 19
Expanse2020:

Is the christian bearing Yahaya
It is a Jewish name meaning Yahweh is merciful

My question was simple

Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of?


What is Allah doing by naming Zachariah's son after Yahweh?


Read further I have message your counterpart on it

Qur'an 19:7
(His prayer was answered): "O Zakariya! We give thee good news of a son: His name shall be Yahya : on none by that name have We conferred distinction before."


It's a simple Question
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 10:01pm On Feb 19
TenQ:

You have started behaving like a circus monkey with your babblings.

Gal 3:13:
"Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree:"


You remain under the curse of the law of sin and death unless you allow the Lamb of God to take away your sin and guilt.

John 1:29:
"The next day John sees Jesus coming to him, and said, Behold the Lamb of God, which takes away the sin of the world."



You have been decieved by the greatest deciever. Open your eyes and stop defending the 419 of Mohammed
Care to explain this verse busy
๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death , and he be to be put to death , and thou hang him on a tree : His body shall not remain all night upon the tree , but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day ; ( for he that is Hanged Is Accursed of God ; ) that thy land be not defiled , which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance. โ€œ

Bible gbe jesu gegun sha
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 10:01pm On Feb 19
Expanse2020:

Don't assume but accept
Please answer my question!


What is Allah doing by naming Zachariah's son as Yahaya after Yahweh?
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 10:04pm On Feb 19
Expanse2020:

Care to explain this verse busy
๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death , and he be to be put to death , and thou hang him on a tree : His body shall not remain all night upon the tree , but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day ; ( for he that is Hanged Is Accursed of God ; ) that thy land be not defiled , which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance. โ€œ
Executed people should not bee left unburied overnight so as not to defile the land of Israel
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 10:07pm On Feb 19
Expanse2020:

Mumu there is different between gospel and the bible
๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜œ
Mumu bible was not given to ISSA A.S but gospel..
Bible was written bible by Paul, mark Luke with there love letters and completed by the guy who raped his mother claimed bible is free but keep selling to the ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ s till eternity
๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
The sheeps cannot wise anymore
When your ignorance is beyond redemption to know that Bible means book and there are several books including the Gospel, the Torah, the Psalms, the Letters etc in the bible.

See your life outside!?

You are even more ignorant than your acclaimed illiterate Fraudster called Mohammed
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 10:10pm On Feb 19
TenQ:

Please answer my question!


What is Allah doing by naming Zachariah's son as Yahaya after Yahweh?

Yahaya is different from yaweh ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 10:11pm On Feb 19
TenQ:

Executed people should not bee left unburied overnight so as not to defile the land of Israel
To fortify the land they used accursed guy hung on a plank
Oki get that now
Thank you
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 10:18pm On Feb 19
Expanse2020:

Yahaya is different from yaweh ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
Unfortunately, Muslims can lie for satan!
Did I tell you that Yahaya is Yahweh?


Tafsir Qur'an 19.7 Abbas - Tanwรฎr al-Miqbรขs min Tafsรฎr Ibn โ€˜Abbรขs
And so Gabriel called him, saying: (O Zachariah! Lo! We bring you tidings of a son whose name is John ) Yahya in Arabic, because he has breathed life (ahya) into his mother's womb; (We have given the same name to none before (him)) We have not given before a son to Zachariah whose name is John; it is also said that this means: there was no one before him whose name was John.


Tafsir Qur'an 19.7 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
God, exalted be He, in responding to his request for a son that will be the incarnation of His mercy, says: โ€˜O Zachariah! Indeed We give you good tidings of a boy, who will inherit in the way that you have requested โ€” whose name is John . Never before have We made anyone his namesakeโ€™, that is, [never has there been] anyone with the name โ€˜Johnโ€™


The name mean โ€œYahweh is merciful,โ€
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 10:18pm On Feb 19
Expanse2020:

To fortify the land they used accursed guy hung on a plank
Oki get that now
Thank you
?
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTeee15: 10:38pm On Feb 19
Expanse2020:

Why did you want to kill yourself is the christian bearing Yahaya

Why is a prophet of Allah bearing the name
'My Elohim is Yahweh'.

What's the name Zechariah gave his son. Pls note that they are Jews and speak no Arabic.
So what's the actual name of his son.

U think U smart, I go use u wash floor. U and that your false religion that lacks sound theology.
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by honesttalk21: 6:26am On Feb 20
TenQ:

This was when Abubakr bought Bilal for himself.


It doesn't explain Bilal saying :
Sahih al-Bukhari 3755
Narrated Qais:
Bilal said to Abu Bakr, " If you have bought me for yourself then keep me (for yourself), but if you have bought me for Allah's Sake , then leave me for Allah's Work."

Why did Bilal became the cock crow at dawn for Mohammed for calls to prayers?

I've asked you

If Bilal was set free, tell us when and the occurence when Abubakr set Bilal free to warrant the hadith above.




This make perfect logical sense except you can fault it!


Check your highlight in yellow :
This is another unsolicited lie: isn't it?
Can you prove this as I have shown you that it's a lie from several hadiths


Your shamelessness is beyond bounds. Even though I told you that the book of Sa'd is not available you converted yourself to Ahmadiya just to have a cheap point!?

There are so many things you don't know and like the lying DEVIL you are you arrogantly feign a false knowing.

1. The moment Abu Bakr al-Siddiq; may Allah be pleased with him,embraced Islam, he spent all his money for the cause of Islam. He promptly set people free and helped end the hardships of the downtrodden Muslims.

2. Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him, was born to a wealthy and noble family in Mecca. As a successful businessman, he was widely respected for his intelligence and honourable character. Even before the arrival of Islam, Abu Bakr shunned the pervasive idol worship of his surrounding society, choosing instead the religion of Ibrahim, peace be upon him.

3. Umayyah once called Bilal and ordered him to whip another slave.
"He says there is only one God," said Umayyah, "and that every person is important. A whipping will surely teach him a lesson."
But the sight of the whip did not frighten the slave.
The man's courage brought Bilal to believe in the oneness of God, the belief of all Muslims

4. Jabir ibn Abdullah reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, enjoined good treatment of slaves and he would say, โ€œFeed them from the same food you eat, clothe them from the same clothes you wear, and do not torture the creation of Allah Almighty.โ€ al-Adab al-Mufrad 188

5. Your slaves are your brothers. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him should feed him with the same food he eats and clothe him with the same clothes he wears, and do not burden him beyond his capacity, and if you burden him then help him. Muslim 1661

SIRTeee15:

That's why intelligent Muslims like honesttalk are busy fabricating and forging theology for Islam because they know there's none.
Expanse2020 na mumu, he's too dull to do exegesis forgery for the Koran not to talk of theology.

What did I fabricate or forge? I see indeed that birds of a feather flock together. Show me what I fabricate or forge.

Tenq show proof that Bilal was loaned to Muhammad.
Not your fallacious logic but actual proof.
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTeee15: 6:40am On Feb 20
honesttalk21:



What did I fabricate or forge? I see indeed that birds of a feather flock together.


Slaves of Allah
Medical miracle in the koran
Insisting ISA is Jesus when evidence prove contrary.

Anyway forget the above. Let's start on a clean slate.
I want to show u Islam lacks sound theology. The theology in the Koran is very poor.


Do U believe Allah's name is YAHWEH.
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 7:28am On Feb 20
honesttalk21:


There are so many things you don't know and like the lying DEVIL you are you arrogantly feign a false knowing.

1. The moment Abu Bakr al-Siddiq; may Allah be pleased with him,embraced Islam, he spent all his money for the cause of Islam. He promptly set people free and helped end the hardships of the downtrodden Muslims.

2. Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him, was born to a wealthy and noble family in Mecca. As a successful businessman, he was widely respected for his intelligence and honourable character. Even before the arrival of Islam, Abu Bakr shunned the pervasive idol worship of his surrounding society, choosing instead the religion of Ibrahim, peace be upon him.

3. Umayyah once called Bilal and ordered him to whip another slave.
"He says there is only one God," said Umayyah, "and that every person is important. A whipping will surely teach him a lesson."
But the sight of the whip did not frighten the slave.
The man's courage brought Bilal to believe in the oneness of God, the belief of all Muslims

4. Jabir ibn Abdullah reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, enjoined good treatment of slaves and he would say, โ€œFeed them from the same food you eat, clothe them from the same clothes you wear, and do not torture the creation of Allah Almighty.โ€ al-Adab al-Mufrad 188

5. Your slaves are your brothers. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him should feed him with the same food he eats and clothe him with the same clothes he wears, and do not burden him beyond his capacity, and if you burden him then help him. Muslim 1661



What did I fabricate or forge? I see indeed that birds of a feather flock together. Show me what I fabricate or forge.

Tenq show proof that Bilal was loaned to Muhammad.
Not your fallacious logic but actual proof.

Why is it that Muslims when cornered will begin to tell irrelevant stories rather than to address the questions raised! Who asked you for stories.

Address the illogicality of the statement of Bilal at the point when Abubakr bought him!


On a serious note:
Are you saying that Islam abolished slavery!?

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