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Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 4:02pm On Feb 19 |
TenQ:Ehen ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐๐๐but you believe Muhammed and Allah that Jesus is form from pure spirit and not a sinner in the Quran but fail to accept that your bible said Jesus is a sinner and a killer (according to gospel of Thomas). But Did you know Yahweh was a pagan God who consist of 3 in 1 God Have you read about Zeus)Eassus
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Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTeee15: 4:08pm On Feb 19 |
Expanse2020:Ask your Koran,.do t ask me. All answers I brought here were written by Muslims like u. No non Muslim co tributed. All I want to know is why are Muslims generating different answers from the same thing in your Koran.....who is the holy spirit- we have 4 different answers. Koran is a clear book indeed. ๐๐คฃ๐ ๐ |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 4:13pm On Feb 19 |
Expanse2020: You are just repeating your lies as it it will somehow change into the truth. 1. Where in the Bible did Jesus kill any man or woman or child. 2. I do NOT Believe Mohammed one tiny bit sir. He is a fraudster and 419! Expanse2020:Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of? |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTeee15: 5:38pm On Feb 19 |
Expanse2020: So U dont believe in YAHWEH? U don't believe God of the bible is Yahweh? Is that what U saying ? Do U believe in Elijah? He's called Ilyas in the Koran. |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTeee15: 6:15pm On Feb 19 |
Expanse2020 Incase U don't know... Elijah mean My God is YAHWEH and Yahaya mean YAHWEH is merciful. So the question is why are prophets of Allah bearing pagan names and why is Allah calling them by that such names. I can imagine Allah calling the prophet ' My God is Yahweh' expanse, how does that sound to U? Walahi, Islam is a scam. The biggest conglomeration of zombies bound together by violence and intolerance, yet told they are slaves to their deity. I keep saying it there's no theology in the Koran. None. That's why intelligent Muslims like honesttalk are busy fabricating and forging theology for Islam because they know there's none. Expanse2020 na mumu, he's too dull to do exegesis forgery for the Koran not to talk of theology. |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 7:14pm On Feb 19 |
SIRTeee15:So helijah is helija in Arabic๐๐๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ Arabic bร In Islam Yahaya mean Allah is gracious or merciful So don't mix lie together and if you consider the Jew Yahweh toor it's suite But your Yahweh na idol OOO read more Yahwism is the name given by modern scholars to the religion of ancient kingdoms of Israel (c.โ930โ720 BC) and Judah (c.โ930โ587 BC).[1] Yahwism was essentially polytheistic, with a pantheon of gods and goddesses;[2] heading the pantheon was Yahweh, the national god of the Israelite kingdoms of Israel and Judah, with his consort, the goddess Asherah,[3] and second-tier gods and goddesses such as Baal, Shamash, Yarikh, Mot, and Astarte, each of whom had their own priests and prophets and numbered royalty among their devotees.[4][5] Towards the end of the Babylonian captivity, in the 6th century BCE, the existence of other gods was denied by the likes of the Second Isaiah, and Yahweh was proclaimed the creator deity and sole divinity to be worshipped:[6] eventually, Yahwism evolved into the monotheistic religions of Judaism and Samaritanism.[7][8] Image on a pithos sherd found at Kuntillet Ajrud in the Sinai Peninsula of Egypt with the inscription "Yahweh and his Asherah" The practices of Yahwism included festivals, sacrifices, vow-making, private rituals, and the adjudication of legal disputes.[9] Contrary to the picture presented in the Hebrew Bible, the Temple in Jerusalem was not the sole, or even central, temple of Yahweh,[10] but the king was the head of the national religion and thus the viceroy on Earth of the national god,[11] a role reflected each year when he presided over a ceremony enthroning Yahweh in the Holy Temple in Jerusalem.[12] Yahwism underwent several redevelopments and recontextualizations as the notion of divinities aside from or comparable to Yahweh was gradually degraded by new religious currents and ideas. During the monarchic period (c. 10th to 6th centuries BCE) of the mid-Iron Age, the religion of Israel moved towards the sole worship of Yahweh alone; however, these theological changes initially remained largely confined to small groups,[13] only spreading to the population at large during the general political turbulence of the 7th and 6th centuries BCE. The progressive evolution towards monotheism had ultimately culminated by the end of the Babylonian exile in the late 6th century BCE, and by the 4th century BCE, Yahwism had coalesced into what is now known as Second Temple Judaism.[7] Yahwism also gave rise to Samaritanism.[8] History never lied๐คฃ๐คฃ๐๐๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ READ MORE FROM HERE https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwism I had Jesus was cursed from God too Is it true |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 7:16pm On Feb 19 |
TenQ:Read further I have message your counterpart on it |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 7:18pm On Feb 19 |
TenQ: Yahwism underwent several redevelopments and recontextualizations as the notion of divinities aside from or comparable to Yahweh was gradually degraded by new religious currents and ideas. During the monarchic period (c. 10th to 6th centuries BCE) of the mid-Iron Age, the religion of Israel moved towards the sole worship of Yahweh alone; however, these theological changes initially remained largely confined to small groups,[13] only spreading to the population at large during the general political turbulence of the 7th and 6th centuries BCE. The progressive evolution towards monotheism had ultimately culminated by the end of the Babylonian exile in the late 6th century BCE, and by the 4th century BCE, Yahwism had coalesced into what is now known as Second Temple Judaism.[7] Yahwism also gave rise to Samaritanism. READ MORE ON YAHWEH TODAY [8]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwism |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 7:45pm On Feb 19 |
TenQ:You should asked your scholars why Dem removed gospel of Thomas and bananas ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ 1. You never heard Jesus cursed a kid(to witter away like a leave or baranch of tree) that disrupt water he used to make clay sparrow 2. He cursed a tree just because he was hungry and laid a frustration on the innocent tree 3. The cursed the teachers that sent him to learn from them they always fall and dies 4. He cursed Phareeses 5. He cursed Judas And so many more So tell me where is love your neighbor as yourself in the attitude ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐๐ |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 8:01pm On Feb 19 |
TenQ:I had Jesus was cursed by God from the bible too ๐๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ Cursed com plenty for bible Oga oooo |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 8:17pm On Feb 19 |
Expanse2020:You have started behaving like a circus monkey with your babblings. Gal 3:13: "Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree:" You remain under the curse of the law of sin and death unless you allow the Lamb of God to take away your sin and guilt. John 1:29: "The next day John sees Jesus coming to him, and said, Behold the Lamb of God, which takes away the sin of the world." You have been decieved by the greatest deciever. Open your eyes and stop defending the 419 of Mohammed |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 8:19pm On Feb 19 |
Expanse2020:And this is the gospel Allah says Mohammed is written in? You are shameless! |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 8:20pm On Feb 19 |
Expanse2020:My question was simple Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of? |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 8:25pm On Feb 19 |
My question was simple Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of?[/quote] Expanse2020: Qur'an 19:7 (His prayer was answered): "O Zakariya! We give thee good news of a son: His name shall be Yahya : on none by that name have We conferred distinction before." It's a simple Question |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTeee15: 8:41pm On Feb 19 |
Expanse2020: Abi this guy na imb.ecile. Is Elijah or John the baptist Arabs Are they Hebrew by birth or Arabs. So if we want to find the meaning of their names, are we going to look into Hebrew etymology or Arab etymology. Lots of yorubas bear bakare, busari, Hassan, Ahmed. If we want to find the meaning of their names are we going to look into yoruba language? Seriously U are a waste of time, U don't have what it takes to debate here.
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Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 9:52pm On Feb 19 |
TenQ:Is the christian bearing Yahaya |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 9:53pm On Feb 19 |
SIRTeee15:Why did you want to kill yourself is the christian bearing Yahaya |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 9:54pm On Feb 19 |
TenQ:Don't assume but accept |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 9:58pm On Feb 19 |
TenQ:Mumu there is different between gospel and the bible ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐๐ Mumu bible was not given to ISSA A.S but gospel.. Bible was written bible by Paul, mark Luke with there love letters and completed by the guy who raped his mother claimed bible is free but keep selling to the ๐๐๐๐ s till eternity ๐๐๐๐๐๐คฃ The sheeps cannot wise anymore |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 10:00pm On Feb 19 |
Expanse2020:It is a Jewish name meaning Yahweh is merciful My question was simple Let's assume you are correct, can you please explain why Allah named Zachariah's son Yahaya after Yahweh. Is Allah this Yahweh you speak of? What is Allah doing by naming Zachariah's son after Yahweh? Read further I have message your counterpart on it Qur'an 19:7 (His prayer was answered): "O Zakariya! We give thee good news of a son: His name shall be Yahya : on none by that name have We conferred distinction before." It's a simple Question |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 10:01pm On Feb 19 |
TenQ:Care to explain this verse busy ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death , and he be to be put to death , and thou hang him on a tree : His body shall not remain all night upon the tree , but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day ; ( for he that is Hanged Is Accursed of God ; ) that thy land be not defiled , which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance. โ Bible gbe jesu gegun sha |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 10:01pm On Feb 19 |
Expanse2020:Please answer my question! What is Allah doing by naming Zachariah's son as Yahaya after Yahweh? |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 10:04pm On Feb 19 |
Expanse2020:Executed people should not bee left unburied overnight so as not to defile the land of Israel |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 10:07pm On Feb 19 |
Expanse2020:When your ignorance is beyond redemption to know that Bible means book and there are several books including the Gospel, the Torah, the Psalms, the Letters etc in the bible. See your life outside!? You are even more ignorant than your acclaimed illiterate Fraudster called Mohammed |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 10:10pm On Feb 19 |
TenQ:Yahaya is different from yaweh ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 10:11pm On Feb 19 |
TenQ:To fortify the land they used accursed guy hung on a plank Oki get that now Thank you |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 10:18pm On Feb 19 |
Expanse2020:Unfortunately, Muslims can lie for satan! Did I tell you that Yahaya is Yahweh? Tafsir Qur'an 19.7 Abbas - Tanwรฎr al-Miqbรขs min Tafsรฎr Ibn โAbbรขs And so Gabriel called him, saying: (O Zachariah! Lo! We bring you tidings of a son whose name is John ) Yahya in Arabic, because he has breathed life (ahya) into his mother's womb; (We have given the same name to none before (him)) We have not given before a son to Zachariah whose name is John; it is also said that this means: there was no one before him whose name was John. Tafsir Qur'an 19.7 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn God, exalted be He, in responding to his request for a son that will be the incarnation of His mercy, says: โO Zachariah! Indeed We give you good tidings of a boy, who will inherit in the way that you have requested โ whose name is John . Never before have We made anyone his namesakeโ, that is, [never has there been] anyone with the name โJohnโ The name mean โYahweh is merciful,โ |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 10:18pm On Feb 19 |
Expanse2020:? |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTeee15: 10:38pm On Feb 19 |
Expanse2020: Why is a prophet of Allah bearing the name 'My Elohim is Yahweh'. What's the name Zechariah gave his son. Pls note that they are Jews and speak no Arabic. So what's the actual name of his son. U think U smart, I go use u wash floor. U and that your false religion that lacks sound theology. |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by honesttalk21: 6:26am On Feb 20 |
TenQ: There are so many things you don't know and like the lying DEVIL you are you arrogantly feign a false knowing. 1. The moment Abu Bakr al-Siddiq; may Allah be pleased with him,embraced Islam, he spent all his money for the cause of Islam. He promptly set people free and helped end the hardships of the downtrodden Muslims. 2. Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him, was born to a wealthy and noble family in Mecca. As a successful businessman, he was widely respected for his intelligence and honourable character. Even before the arrival of Islam, Abu Bakr shunned the pervasive idol worship of his surrounding society, choosing instead the religion of Ibrahim, peace be upon him. 3. Umayyah once called Bilal and ordered him to whip another slave. "He says there is only one God," said Umayyah, "and that every person is important. A whipping will surely teach him a lesson." But the sight of the whip did not frighten the slave. The man's courage brought Bilal to believe in the oneness of God, the belief of all Muslims 4. Jabir ibn Abdullah reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, enjoined good treatment of slaves and he would say, โFeed them from the same food you eat, clothe them from the same clothes you wear, and do not torture the creation of Allah Almighty.โ al-Adab al-Mufrad 188 5. Your slaves are your brothers. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him should feed him with the same food he eats and clothe him with the same clothes he wears, and do not burden him beyond his capacity, and if you burden him then help him. Muslim 1661 SIRTeee15: What did I fabricate or forge? I see indeed that birds of a feather flock together. Show me what I fabricate or forge. Tenq show proof that Bilal was loaned to Muhammad. Not your fallacious logic but actual proof. |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTeee15: 6:40am On Feb 20 |
honesttalk21: Slaves of Allah Medical miracle in the koran Insisting ISA is Jesus when evidence prove contrary. Anyway forget the above. Let's start on a clean slate. I want to show u Islam lacks sound theology. The theology in the Koran is very poor. Do U believe Allah's name is YAHWEH. |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 7:28am On Feb 20 |
honesttalk21:Why is it that Muslims when cornered will begin to tell irrelevant stories rather than to address the questions raised! Who asked you for stories. Address the illogicality of the statement of Bilal at the point when Abubakr bought him! On a serious note: Are you saying that Islam abolished slavery!? |
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